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The band => General chat => Topic started by: Sander on September 11, 2008, 09:34:41 PM
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxJ4B1bjzzw[/youtube]
FUCK I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
MANY thanks to theothereast.com for this!
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haha!
Lyrics anyone?
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vers 1
Baby jag kan se hur du gråter fast dina ögon är torra
Jag ber till Gud och jag tackar han för han gör så du orkar.
Och jag kan se hur själen din lider i tvivel försöker att upprätthålla det
vi har och i de livet du söker, och varje morgon vaknar du med rädsla
i magen, den rädslan för att inte ha mig kvar i slutet av dagen
så du ringer mig oavbrutet för du tycker min röst ger lite plåster
på såren men inte mycket till tröst
när jag är stressad i telefonen, helt ointresserad, av vad du har
att berätta och säger nog inte mera än att jag måste gå, hinner inte, har inte tid
och ger dig inga tecken på att jag vill ha dig kvar i mitt liv
men älskling lyssna nu och lita på mig, har aldrig velat släppa dig sen
första dagen jag såg dig, jo vi ska kämpa tillsammans för meningen
du är mitt allt så snälla låt mig se dig le igen
ref.
jag vill se dig le igen
jag vill se dig le igen
för jag ser gråten i din själ
som väntar på att brista ut
men snälla låt mig se dig le baby
åh jag älskar dig så mycket
ta min hand och lita på
att det ordnar sig
vers 2
det finns ingen ursäkt för hur jag beter mig ibland
jag är så självisk jag vet det men älskling ge mig din hand
låt mig mej se dej le lite grann jag lovar och menar det här
har börjat förstå vad ja gör och vill inte leva så här
du förtjänar så mycket mer efter allt du gjort för mig
i vått och torrt när jag vart nere har du trott på mig
under alla nätter jag gråtit mig genom ångestattacker
så har du torkat mina tårar och sagt att det kommer ordna sig
och det kändes bättre då men en natt fick du ändå slå 112
och följde med mig in till akuten och väntat i timmar
du är värd hela världen för hur du kämpat i dimman
alltid stått vid min sida funnits där när jag behöver
men ändå glömmer jag bort det sedan när det går över
och sviker dej om igen och det är på mig det är fel men det finns
bara en och det är med dig jag blir hel
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vers 3
du måste tro vad jag säger nu
jag är ärlig jag vet jag kan bete mej som skit
det är förjävligt o det måste få ett slut
fort innan du bryter ihop jag vill försöka
förändra för jag har hört dina rop
som jag tidigare bara skitit i
och tystat ner då mina svar har varit
pallar inte lyssna mer
men baby du vet
ja du vet hur jag mår o du vet också vad jag gått igenom
nu under ett år
fram o tillbaka till psyket för att få prata ut
om att jag inte känt nån mening nu när allt snart är slut
men det börjar bli bättre nu och du är den att tacka
som fått mig upp på fötter igen för att tända facklan
det var därför jag aldrig rörde tabletterna som dom gav mig
jag visste jag kunde klara vad som helst bara jag har dig
så förlåt mig som all skit som du fått ta
kom ihåg så länge du älskar mig så är det du och jag
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Some random online translator-
vers 1
baby I can see how you cry permanentlely your eyes is dry
I ask to god and I thanks he pursue he does to sow you have the energy.
And I can see how the soul yours suffers in doubt tries to maintain it
we have and in those life you apply for, and each morning vaknar you with dread
in the MAG, that dread in order to not to have myself left at the end of the day
so you dial myself uninterrupted for you think my vote gives little bandage
on såren but not a lot to comfort
when I am stressed in the telephone, entire lack of interest row, of what you have
to tell and says enough not more than that I must go, does not have time to, does not have time
and gives yourself no sign indicatings that I want to have you left in my life
but darling to listen now and to trust me, has never wanted to release you the late
first day I saw you, yes we will fight together for the sense
you are across all so mild tune myself see yourself to smile again
ref.
I want to see you to smile again
I want to see you to smile again
for I see cried in your soul
that waits on bursting out
but mild tune myself to see yourself to smile baby
oh I love yourself to sow a lot
to take my hand and to trust that it orders themselves
vers 2
there is no apology for how I behave sometimes
I am sow egoistic I know it but darling to give me your hand
tune me mej to see dej to smile little bit I assure and means this has begun understand what yes do and does not want to to live so here
you deserve to sow very more after everything you done for me
in wet and dry when I each down has you believed on me
during all nights I cried me through anxiety attacks
so has you my dried tears and said that it comes to arrange himself
and it felt gooder then but a night might you nevertheless hit 112
and followed with me in to the emergency ward and waited in hours
you are the worth entire world for how you fought in the mist
always stood at my side been where when I need
but nevertheless forgets I away it since when it abates and fails dej about again and it is on me it is wrong but there be
only it and it is with yourself I become entire
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vers 3
you must believe what I say now
I am honest I know I can bete mej as shit
it is stem nasty o it must get an end
quickly before you break together I want to try
to change for I have consulted your calls
that I earlier only shit in
and silenced down then my replies has been
stools not listen more
but baby you know
yes you know how I feel o you know also what I gone through
now during a year
forward o back to psyket in order to may to speak out
about that I not well-known someone sense now when everything near is finished
but it begins to become better now and you are it to thank
as may myself up on feet again in order to the lit torch
it was therefore I never the stirred tablets that judgement gave myself
I knew I could clear anything only I have yourself
so I'm sorry myself as all shit that you may to take
come to mind so long you love myself so is it you and I
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I COULD translate it properly for you guys, but the lyrics suck so bad I don't even want to...
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(http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/303/notlolwutpearuw52cu5.jpg)
That's not a rip off, that's a sample~
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OH, THE CHORUS <3
I laughed.
I now have it as profile song on myspace.
Millie loves it too. I promise. She just won't admit it.
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Rofl, it's Swedish all right... but, lol.. I don't think it "sounds like" Swedish ? :P
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Oh dear :D Tha's terrible. How can these people bring themselves to deface great songs like this?
I wonder if this could be the same rapper that ripped off Therion's Draconian trilogy ::)
Edit: I looked at other videos by this guy and he's ripped off Rhapsody's Magic of the Wizard's Dream in the same way (well, not the 'same' way per se, but it has still been ripped off o_Ó).
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I hate it when other artists do that.. and then DON'T credit the original artist. It's been done too many times to count, too
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I hate it when other artists do that.. and then DON'T credit the original artist.
There's no need to credit though? You have to ask the artist before you make a sample/cover. If this rapper did this without permission Yoshiki could sue (but I don't know if he cares enough about some dude from Europe using CML). All I know is that if this was a Prince song, for example, dude would've gotten his ass beaten by now. :P
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I hate it when other artists do that.. and then DON'T credit the original artist. It's been done too many times to count, too
Me too. Even if they credit the original artist (and send them royalties), I don't get it. I can understand it being done just for a bit of fun, like the ocassional cover. But if it actually gets released it's pathetic and has zero artistic merit. Besides making a bit of money, where does it get them?
There's no need to credit though? You have to ask the artist before you make a sample/cover. If this rapper did this without permission Yoshiki could sue (but I don't know if he cares enough about some dude from Europe using CML). All I know is that if this was a Prince song, for example, dude would've gotten his ass beaten by now. :P
They're still supposed to credit the original composer I think. If this is the same guy that ripped off Therion, I don't think he'd have asked. Therion (or rather their label) had to sue him/someone similar and I'm not entirely sure what became of it. Christofer Johnsson (Therion maestro) said he would have been fine with it if the guy had asked, but he didn't.
Who knows?
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They're still supposed to credit the original composer I think.
And there probably is "Yoshiki" written in the songwriting credits of the cd booklet. He doesn't have to be credited in the title of the song (or in a youtube video :P), since even covers don't require that, and this isn't even a cover.
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He doesn't have to be credited in the title of the song (or in a youtube video ), since even covers don't require that, and this isn't even a cover.
Never said that :P I was speaking in general.
His name should be there somewhere if there is an actual CD, but I'm not going to be buying it to check :D
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If he DID ask Yoshiki, I really can't understand why he said yes.
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Of course Yoshiki wasn't asked. If he was, they would advertise "WITH PERMISSION FROM YOSHIKI" or something similar as some sort of a reason to listen to it.
Fine, that's more of a theory than a fact but I just find it highly unlikely that he actually was asked ;P
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Yeah, I'm sure if Yoshiki found out about this he'd totally sue that guy. XD
I mean, it's bad enough when a rap artist uses part of a song for their own "song" instead of coming up with something original (I wonder if rappers are even able to come up with original ideas anymore) , but to use an ENTIRE SONG by someone else as the basis of their own? That's just not right. D= Especially when they rip off X Japan.
Like someone else said, it would be one thing if this guy was doing it for fun or something, but when he makes it into a song with the intent of selling it and doesn't even credit Yoshiki, that's downright low. @_@
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I mean, it's bad enough when a rap artist uses part of a song for their own "song" instead of coming up with something original (I wonder if rappers are even able to come up with original ideas anymore)
I wonder if Yoshiki is able to come up with original ideas anymore. :P And again, I say this in this forum for the 249823543895 time, I believe you mean hip hoppers, not rappers, rap=/= hip hop, rap can occur in (almost) ever genre, hip hop is a genre (and a lifestyle) on it's own. And I don't think there is anything truly original anymore, some just repeat something already existing better than others. Sorry but balant rap (or actually hip hop because people think it's the same) hate pisses me off, most people who don't like this kind of music only know some shitty songs/artists from the radio/tv.
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Like someone else said, it would be one thing if this guy was doing it for fun or something, but when he makes it into a song with the intent of selling it and doesn't even credit Yoshiki, that's downright low. @_@
How do you know he doesn't credit Yoshiki? You've only seen a youtube video, right?
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Sorry but balant rap (or actually hip hop because people think it's the same) hate pisses me off, most people who don't like this kind of music only know some shitty songs/artists from the radio/tv.
When I say I hate rap, I'm referring to the horribly popular genre of 'Gangsta Rap' as it is today (i.e: G Unit et al.). imo, it's an abomination. The people doing it are drug dealers and murderers, and their attitude (to their supposed music) is terrible. It's purely a medium through which they make money and carry out their pathetic 'feuds' on a global stage. I honestly can't understand it's popularity at all. If a metal band was to make a song/video taking the piss out of another band, based on the fact that that band sells fewer CDs than them, they'd lose half of their fanbase overnight! Yet mallions of people are content to continue pouring their money into this industry, wtf!?
Speaking of rap/hip hop in general, I respect it. To each their own, some people love it and that's fine. To me it isn't really music at all, or if it is, it's extremely basic music, and I don't think it qualifies as poetry either (as some would say).
In a word - vacuous, is how I see rap/hip hop, but that's just me :D
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Speaking of rap/hip hop in general, I respect it. To each their own, some people love it and that's fine. To me it isn't really music at all, or if it is, it's extremely basic music, and I don't think it qualifies as poetry either (as some would say).
Oh.
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The people doing it are drug dealers and murderers...
Actually, most of them are just sad imitators and have never held a gun except for showing off, and when it'd come to the real thing, they'd be total, excuse me for my language, pussies.
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please keep that song away from Yoshiki's ears or I predict massive tragedy.
:D
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I actually added this guy on msn so that I could ask him about it and he answered that he wasn't the one who had produced the song and that he hadn't heard Crucify My Love before he did "Le igen".
I can translate later exactly what he said :)
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Speaking of rap/hip hop in general, I respect it. To each their own, some people love it and that's fine. To me it isn't really music at all, or if it is, it's extremely basic music, and I don't think it qualifies as poetry either (as some would say).
Oh.
Did I not emphasise enough the fact that THAT'S JUST MY OPINION? You'd have a point if I had simply stated "Hip hop is not music" (which, incidentally, was the only bit you highlighted :P ), but I didn't just write that. I respect that people like it and it's fine that they do. I just really don't see anything in it. I'm sure that many people feel that way about the music I like, and I respect that as well. I'm not saying I'm right and everyone else is wrong. That would be disrespectful.
Actually, most of them are just sad imitators and have never held a gun except for showing off, and when it'd come to the real thing, they'd be total, excuse me for my language, pussies.
Quite so.
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I wonder if Yoshiki is able to come up with original ideas anymore. :P And again, I say this in this forum for the 249823543895 time, I believe you mean hip hoppers, not rappers, rap=/= hip hop, rap can occur in (almost) ever genre, hip hop is a genre (and a lifestyle) on it's own. And I don't think there is anything truly original anymore, some just repeat something already existing better than others. Sorry but balant rap (or actually hip hop because people think it's the same) hate pisses me off, most people who don't like this kind of music only know some shitty songs/artists from the radio/tv.
Yeah, I guess I did mean hip-hop in this case. XD" And actually, I have heard other rap/hip-hop artists outside of the mainstream, and some of them are fine. Heck, a few years ago even the kind that was on the radio/TV was okay, but in recent years, most mainstream rap/hip-hop sounds pretty much the same to me: bland, uninspired, and in some cases even blatantly ripping off other artists. D=
And madrigal, I'd be curious to see the translation. ^^ If he really wasn't involved, then I forgive him because then it wasn't his fault. However, that would make me upset with the producer, or whoever else was involved in the ripping off of Crucify My Love. D=
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Did I not emphasise enough the fact that THAT'S JUST MY OPINION? You'd have a point if I had simply stated "Hip hop is not music" (which, incidentally, was the only bit you highlighted :P )
I bolded two parts, though. The one where you say you respect it and the one where you say that in your opinion it isn't music at all. 99% of the things (except for news maybe) here are opinions mixed with truth (or untruth). The funny thing about your statement was that those two bolded parts kind of contradict themselves, don't you think? How is it respect if you don't even see it as what it is, music? That's like saying "hey, gay people, I respect your rights to get married and all but it wouldn't be a REAL marriage imo". I'm kind of missing the respect in your statement but maybe that's just me.
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:O *still missing the shocked looking smiley here*
Uh... wouldn't say that I dislike Hip Hop, but for my own taste this example here is rather one of the not so good examples.
I think I'd prefer Run DMC or Fettes Brot. XD I mean... like Run DMC vs. Aerosmith years ago! For a brief moment I imagined Run DMC vs. X with a song like Stab Me In THe Back or Joker or something!
Or what about Will Smith?... uh uh uh, here come the men in deep red... :D
Schwule Mädchen stab you in the back, yo!
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Or what about Will Smith?... uh uh uh, here come the men in deep red... :D
LOL, yeah Will Smith would be awesome and Yoshiki and Toshi are already wearing the M.I.B. shades *g*
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You remember when MC Hammer sampled 'Superfreak' and the huge mess that followed that.. and the mess that followed Vanilla Ice when he sampled 'Under Pressure'. Neither artist said squat about sampling those songs, but.. whooo there was fire afterwards.
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I don't really hate hiphop or anything (well i don't listen to it either ), but this was pretty awful... Almost as awful as the Finnish hiphop/rap :o ;D
Or what about Will Smith?... uh uh uh, here come the men in deep red... :D
LOL, yeah Will Smith would be awesome and Yoshiki and Toshi are already wearing the M.I.B. shades *g*
;D lol
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O____O!! HAHAHAHAHA at first I thought that "oooooo shit... they are going to rape this song...." But when I heard it I realized that it was very beautiful!!!!!
And the lyrics were cute!! I understood those almost completely with my "great" Swedish skills XDDD
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MANY thanks to theothereast.com for this!
Obviously not enough thanks to link to me ,though
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MANY thanks to theothereast.com for this!
Obviously not enough thanks to link to me ,though
Well it wasn't a direct link but it was the address so... And I'm sure most of the people here know about your website anyway.
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MANY thanks to theothereast.com for this!
Obviously not enough thanks to link to me ,though
Well it wasn't a direct link but it was the address so... And I'm sure most of the people here know about your website anyway.
I spend a lot of time, and money too on my website. I've abstained from piracy out of the respect of my contacts which means I have to spend money on music. Hits and comments are the only payment I get, don't take them from me because you "Assume" something.
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Poor you. Well, I pay for this server and my music myself also so...
Anyway, I'll link to you next time then.
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Poor you. Well, I pay for this server and my music myself also so...
I guess this must be a new development, given that last time I checked, you had downloaded the entire X Japan discography and had a sticky thread in the General subforum where you were selling it to all comers for a few Euros plus postage. And the secret X Freaks sharing subforum, if that still exists.
But I haven't checked for a while. :D
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Indeed you haven't checked for a while.
Of course, not everything I have is bought, but I believe that I have quite a lot more original stuff than some Joe Sixpack.
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Hahaha, what the fuck? The guy from The Other East is "some Joe Sixpack" now?
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*facepalm*
No, the guy from ToE is (nick)named Lee. Joe Sixpack, aka John Q. Public is a generic name in the United States to denote a hypothetical member of society deemed a "common man." You gotta pay attention! What I'm saying is that I have more original stuff than an average person listening to music.
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Finnish rapper rips off Crucify My Love:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYDz2mUnHwI[/youtube]
And another finnish rapper rips off Crucify My Love:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LewEwhijWY[/youtube]
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That. Was. So. Not. Good. >_____<
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Haha, oh man - why are Scandinavian rappers so active in stealing this song? XD... I mean, they must have some kind of right to use the music, because otherwise it would be outright plagiarism. Yoshiki is a hard-nosed business man, I would have thought if they had no right to use it he would have already crucified them in the courtroom. Unless, of course, he doesn't know :p
MANY thanks to theothereast.com for this!
Obviously not enough thanks to link to me ,though
Well it wasn't a direct link but it was the address so... And I'm sure most of the people here know about your website anyway.
I spend a lot of time, and money too on my website. I've abstained from piracy out of the respect of my contacts which means I have to spend money on music. Hits and comments are the only payment I get, don't take them from me because you "Assume" something.
Sorry, opening up a really old can of worms here - but I just had to laugh at this.
You didn't upload the video, you just came across it on Youtube and slapped it on your site. I didn't see any 'thanks' being given to the person who uploaded the material. Your website is basically just a hub of second hand information which you pick off the web that rarely comes attached with citations or full credit to original source - and you throw a hissy fit because Hypno posted the text link to your website but not a hyperlink?
Dude, what a joke. XD
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Haha, oh man - why are Scandinavian rappers so active in stealing this song? XD... I mean, they must have some kind of right to use the music, because otherwise it would be outright plagiarism. Yoshiki is a hard-nosed business man, I would have thought if they had no right to use it he would have already crucified them in the courtroom. Unless, of course, he doesn't know :p
MANY thanks to theothereast.com for this!
Obviously not enough thanks to link to me ,though
Well it wasn't a direct link but it was the address so... And I'm sure most of the people here know about your website anyway.
I spend a lot of time, and money too on my website. I've abstained from piracy out of the respect of my contacts which means I have to spend money on music. Hits and comments are the only payment I get, don't take them from me because you "Assume" something.
Sorry, opening up a really old can of worms here - but I just had to laugh at this.
You didn't upload the video, you just came across it on Youtube and slapped it on your site. I didn't see any 'thanks' being given to the person who uploaded the material. Your website is basically just a hub of second hand information which you pick off the web that rarely comes attached with citations or full credit to original source - and you throw a hissy fit because Hypno posted the text link to your website but not a hyperlink?
Dude, what a joke. XD
That'll show me. No I don't always cite information that's available at 25 different places, Because I have no way of knowing who found out first and am avoiding giving false credit. But be a pain and flame me about something happened 4 months ago if you want, I don't really care. I got flamed out of the blue for reporting the Taiwan cancellation, you think I'm going to be terribly bothered that someone took issue with a post I already regret making and let drop months ago?
And go ahead and make a stink in public, instead of contacting me about your concerns directly. I never even would have seen this if I hadn't been linked to it by someone. So it appears more as a pretentious gesture then an actual concern about ethics.
Have a problem with me or my site? My contact information is easily found.
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Wow, that was fast. ::)
I have no problem with your site, I like it. I do, however, laugh loudly at you crying 'foul' about Hypno not hyperlinking you - making it sound like you have been mortally wounded by a great injustice.
I was just checking this topic as there were recent posts and as I read up I saw the stuff that went on before. Although the issue was clearly dead and buried, as I mentioned in my first post - I still couldn't help myself having a public chuckle at it.
Oh, and by the way, I'm not flaming you or you're website - I'm questioning your attitude, which seemed to be snappy and unprovoked in the first place.
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Well, I could certainly question your decision making.
There's no real reason to bring back a dead fight, one you weren't even part of even. That's just asking for a new fight.
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Sorry.
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Haha, oh man - why are Scandinavian rappers so active in stealing this song? XD... I mean, they must have some kind of right to use the music, because otherwise it would be outright plagiarism. Yoshiki is a hard-nosed business man, I would have thought if they had no right to use it he would have already crucified them in the courtroom. Unless, of course, he doesn't know :p
Well, at least these finnish rappers are saying that sampling songs is legal without permissions if the song is 10+ years old.
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Haha, oh man - why are Scandinavian rappers so active in stealing this song? XD... I mean, they must have some kind of right to use the music, because otherwise it would be outright plagiarism. Yoshiki is a hard-nosed business man, I would have thought if they had no right to use it he would have already crucified them in the courtroom. Unless, of course, he doesn't know :p
Well, at least these finnish rappers are saying that sampling songs is legal without permissions if the song is 10+ years old.
Is that right though? Vanilla Ice got into a hell of a lot of trouble for sampling parts of "Under Pressure" by Queen + David Bowie, and that was well over 10 years old when he did that.
Also, these don't really constitute as sampling, because whole sections of music are being copied. Put it this way, I've seen people sued for a lot less.
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Generally that's not true, I don't know the particular case with Finland but as they are part of the EU it probably has mostly the same rules, i.e. original copyright holder has the rights to derivative works such as the ones in this topic. There is an expire time for the copyright; but let's put it this way: Mickey Mouse is still covered.
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JouGGis (one of the rappers, the first video in my post is his):
tiedän et siitä on samplattu ja se on mun yks lempi biisiseistä...mut taustan sain mainitusta henkilöstä...ja lain mukaan jos on menny yli 10 vuotta tietystä soundista niin sitä saa käyttää. Ja missään vaihees en oo väittäny et oisin ite säveltäny taustan!
In english (with all his misspellings and stuff):
"I know it [Crucify My Love] has been sampled and it's one of my favourite songs...but I got the background from the mentioned person [I don't quite understand what he means by that]...and according to the law if it has been over 10 years of a sound it's allowed for use. And I never claimed I'd made the background!"
Source (http://www.mikseri.net/artists/comments.php?id=300252)
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I don't think he is right. To my knowledge you need specific permission or have some kind of royalty arrangement.
Copyright expires on a song 100 years after the artist has died, unless the rights are owned by a private estate as intellectual copyright, in which case they can be held for longer. That's my understanding of it, at least.
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I don't think he is right. To my knowledge you need specific permission or have some kind of royalty arrangement.
Copyright expires on a song 100 years after the artist has died, unless the rights are owned by a private estate as intellectual copyright, in which case they can be held for longer. That's my understanding of it, at least.
70 years over here at least. Dunno how it applies to international artists though.
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I don't think he is right. To my knowledge you need specific permission or have some kind of royalty arrangement.
Copyright expires on a song 100 years after the artist has died, unless the rights are owned by a private estate as intellectual copyright, in which case they can be held for longer. That's my understanding of it, at least.
70 years over here at least. Dunno how it applies to international artists though.
You're probably right, but either way - it's definitely not 10 years XD
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You're missing that copyright law varies by nation.
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You're missing that copyright law varies by nation.
I'm pretty sure it's not 10 years since the composing anywhere. It is 70 years since the death of the artist in Finland, but I'm not sure which one applies to that, the Japanese copyright law, or Finnish.