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The band => General chat => Albums/Singles => Topic started by: SUG!ZO on May 23, 2010, 02:17:54 AM
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ALBUM:
X Japan - JADE
Tracklist:
1. JADE
2. Rusty Nail(Eng. Version)
3. I.V.
4. WITHOUT YOU
5. White Poem II
6. DEEP RED(Eng.)
7. Unnamed Song
8. Born to be Free
9. The Last Song(Symphony Ver.)
10. Forever Love(Eng. Version)
Release Date:2015.02.05 ;)
But really what songs do you think Yoshiki
could re-engrish for a whole new album with
new songs, maybe half and half?
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Hey, are you daydreaming?
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No.. just night dreaming these days.
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In my opinion it should be an equal balance of rock songs and ballads, SUG!ZO I know its your opinion, but don't forget this is a rock band, so I think there needs to be a well more balanced setlist then that, the album has to cater to rock fans as well.
1.Rusty Nail
2.I.V
3.Jade
4.Without You
5.Born to be Free
6.Deep Red
7.Weekend
8.Endless Rain
9.Blue Blood
10.X
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This post is...not nice...:(....dashes hopes!
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@Ulquiorra
I think your tracklist is better for old fans and for introducing new fans too. My tracklist was more towards the way Yoshiki might put it together if you compare the way he made Dahlia with alot of ballads.
To be honest thats why I think X is what they are. It's the ballads that pull in the non-metalheads to the band. I used to hate speed/metal until I heard X now I love it. So if Yoshiki didn't write ballads and he didn't slow songs down in the middle like DAHLIA or weekend I don't think they would have as many open minded fans
@Ami
You know white poem I on Dahlia I always used to think if Yoshiki made another album after Dahlia he would do a white poem II. I really like White Poem I. Like people say when Yoshiki made it he was thinking what it would be like if he was in a band by himself. Kinda like Violet UK. Where he does everything[All instruments]. Except White Poem has Toshi's voice on it which saves it from sounding too much like what would become pre-Violet UK.
@mC
Being a fellow kiwi I thought you'd be on my side :D
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mine :
1. Rusty nail
2. I.V
3. Without You
4. Jade
5. Born to be free
6. Art of life
7. Deep red
8. Silent Jealousy
9. Endless Rain
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Whishing for a new album that is dvd with pv's too!
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@denxdenx
For me personally I feel since Art of Life is already fully English it doesn't need touch ups. It can't really sit on an album either because its 28 minutes long and the radio edit kinda defeats the purpose of the song.
I personally would like more new songs on this "so called" album. Although hes gotta have the two classics. Kurenai and Endless Rain. Thats like the best of both worlds I think. If someone doesn't like one, they'll surely like the other.
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Of course I'm just guessing but I think a realistic tracklist would be:
01. Kurenai
02. I.V.
03. Rusty Nail
04. Endless Rain
05. Born to be free
06. Jade
07. Without You
08. Unknown new song
09. Rose of Pain (acoustic version)
10. X
plus a DVD which includes the PVs.
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I gues you can call me stupid now, but it took me a while to find out that Deep Red = Kurenai ......
and the prob is not that I'm pretty good at Japanese, but rather I'm ...well....*shrugs*
anyways, here is my list:
1 Rusty Nail (english)
2 WEEK END (english)
3 JADE
4 IV
5 WITHOUT YOU
6 DEEP RED
7 Born to be free
8 "in memory of hide" (some strage guitar excerpts)
9 Orgasm (english)
10 X (english includes hide's "tobe tobe!!!")
(11 HIDDEN BONUS TRACK: Feel me Tonight (english), though I know that this aint gonna happen, but it'd be so killer)
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@mC
Being a fellow kiwi I thought you'd be on my side :D
Whoa! That's a surprise! I can only think of one other kiwi that was on these boards when I first joined a few years ago but they are long gone. What city you living in?
And it's not that I don't agree with you, I just thought X Japan might have released something official about the album...cause they haven't exactly said much this year...
And I really do hope they do an english version of Forever Love and rerecord The Last Song! (The extract that they are using to open concerts every now and then, I like so much better than Amethyst)
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@Ami
You know white poem I on Dahlia I always used to think if Yoshiki made another album after Dahlia he would do a white poem II.
Yeah okay, except that it's "White Poem I" (as in "i"), not "White Poem 1".
So are you saying that the I there isnt supposed to mean 1..? Cause I always perceived it as such......??? o_O'''
While we're at it, I'll write my dream list too...
(in no particular order)
Rusty Nail
Forever Love
Say Anything
Jade
Kurenai
IV
Born to Be Free
Without You
Silent Jealousy
X
Dahlia
Endless Rain
Orgasm
Hmm, I dunno....I don't think my list is good enough.
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I have no problem with there being english versions of the songs, the only thing I'm worried about is them changing the lyrics in a way that takes out all the high vocals notes of the songs, I want US fans to experience and know of Toshi's high vocals just as Japanese fans have, in ballads like Forever Love the high notes are probably the most emotional moments of the song.
Its gonna suck if "ai ga aru nAra" is changed to something like "why can I no longer find you", completely changing the vocal line, taking out the high pitch vocal from the song.
If I was doing the english versions I'd make sure the english lyrics ensured the same vocal pitches that are in the Japanese version, something like "now you're somewhere I cAn't reach"
I know I probably sound like I'm being very picky, but I think you can see what I'm getting at.
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While I can't guess the track order, I'd say the album is going to be around 10 tracks, as it's unlikely Yoshiki is going to push the boat out too far.
As for the album tracks we know about, we have:
Jade,
Without You,
I.V.,
Born to be free,
Rusty Nail,
Kurenai,
Endless Rain
That makes 7, so as for the other 3 or so tracks Yoshiki intends to include, I think it's really anyone's guess. My inkling is that there will be another ballad or two in there, so perhaps Forever Love or Tears, as Yoshiki seems to favour those two in live concerts at the moment.
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^ I'm sure X will be on it too, it's their signature song after all.
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^ I'm sure X will be on it too, it's their signature song after all.
I can't remember hearing that X had been translated...
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(11 HIDDEN BONUS TRACK: Feel me Tonight (english), though I know that this aint gonna happen, but it'd be so killer)
Vote Yes for that bonus track :D
I have no problem with there being english versions of the songs, the only thing I'm worried about is them changing the lyrics in a way that takes out all the high vocals notes of the songs, I want US fans to experience and know of Toshi's high vocals just as Japanese fans have, in ballads like Forever Love the high notes are probably the most emotional moments of the song.
Its gonna suck if "ai ga aru nAra" is changed to something like "why can I no longer find you", completely changing the vocal line, taking out the high pitch vocal from the song.
I am with Ulquirra!!!
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I don't want an english version of Forever Love....I love it the way it is.
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Sadly, that is what we gonna have, a whole cd in English...whithout the great iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis and uuuuuuuuuuuus from ToshI.
We only can hope like Ulquiorra said, they will gonna do good translations, that shows ToshI's unique pitches.
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I'm glad people understood what I meant, I felt it might've been slightly hard for people to understand.
They can't rewrite the English lyrics of Endless Rain, Forever Love's, "All I see is BLUUUEEE" And Weekend's "But I cannot, carry OOON", so we're safe there, and Toshi is learning high pitched falsetto's now, though he is nowhere near his true potential yet with those.
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My guess:
Jade,
Without You,
I.V.,
Born to be free,
Rusty Nail,
Kurenai,
Endless Rain
Tears
Forever Love
X
Orgasm
(there could be weekend or acoustic rose of pain in there)
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Jade
Without You
Born to be free
I.V
I think it goes only have things new
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I just realised something ironic about my posts, I've mentioned the lines "ai ga aru nara" and "All I see is blue in my heart" as lines which hopefully wont be changed by the english versions so that new fans in the US will be able to hear the high notes from Toshi we've heard, yet the truth is, those are two notes Toshi hasn't been able to hit since the reunion.
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I just realised something ironic about my posts, I've mentioned the lines "ai ga aru nara" and "All I see is blue in my heart" as lines which hopefully wont be changed by the english versions so that new fans in the US will be able to hear the high notes from Toshi we've heard, yet the truth is, those are two notes Toshi hasn't been able to hit since the reunion.
I am confident he can pull those off in the studio for an album though.
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I still think that translating songs in other languages is more or less an awful thing to do...:-/
I wouldn't mind it if it was an album with songs written in english from the start but I never liked the idea of translating songs because no matter what....either the song meaning or the melody will change...
However, there are too many narrow minded people around who wouldn't listen to a song in a language they don't understand so I see why they are doing it....>_<;;
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However, there are too many narrow minded people around who wouldn't listen to a song in a language they don't understand so I see why they are doing it....>_<;;
Whenever people use that as an excuse to not listen to music, with songs being sung in another language, I think they are being silly. Classical music doesn't even have words in it yet people listen to that....I agree....narrow minds....
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@Menacia: I think your tracklist's pretty realistic, except for Orgasm (though that would be awesome...)
Love the Bonus Track... XD
Don't forget they performed an English version of Orgasm around the time of "X Japan Returns" if I remember correctly...
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the english Orgasm was performed at The Last Live
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And 1995.12.31 and the Dahlia Tour Final, The Dahlia Tour final being the best version of the english verion
Go to 6:35 in the video.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3DAXvQDnUo[/youtube]
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Just reading Xyo's MySpace Blog; apparently the album will be released in June...so...next month...REALLY!!??
There wasn't a direct source to the information...can anyone else confirm this?
LINK: http://blogs.myspace.com/mxyo
EDIT: OK, just read from MusicJapanPlus, that the album will be released in August, and they are usually a good source...that date sounds more realistic...
LINK: http://www.musicjapanplus.jp/news/?action=detail&news_id=4724&start=1
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*crosses fingers that there won't be any obstacles from june till august*
I mean seriously they MUST release the new album this year, otherwise they're going to lose more fans, cause I've been observing this forum, lots of old members no longer showed up/make post, same thing happen with other forums.
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I mean seriously they MUST release the new album this year, otherwise they're going to lose more fans, cause I've been observing this forum, lots of old members no longer showed up/make post, same thing happen with other forums.
That doesn't necessarily mean that they are losing fans....^^;
It can also mean that people are tired of a forum or of its people or that they are simply too bored/busy to post...XD
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I mean seriously they MUST release the new album this year, otherwise they're going to lose more fans, cause I've been observing this forum, lots of old members no longer showed up/make post, same thing happen with other forums.
That doesn't necessarily mean that they are losing fans....^^;
It can also mean that people are tired of a forum or of its people or that they are simply too bored/busy to post...XD
Ha yea, the reason you don't see the same people around as you used to is because we scared them all away... :(
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I hope they do this... my tracklist, not based on any particular order
Blue Blood 2010 (Japanese)
Silent Jealousy 2010 (Japanese)
Kurenai 2010
Week End 2010
Rusty Nail 2010 (English)
Endless Rain (English)
an instrumental song by Sugizo-Pata-heath
I.V. 2 (new "longer" version)
Jade
Without You
Born to Be Free
Forever Love (english)
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and a Bonus Track, VANISHING LOVE 2010
If they really do that, it'll feels like I'm dying n go to heaven xD
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new version of mine
English Cd :
1. Jade
2. I.V (extended version)
3. Without You
4. Born To Be Free
5. Unnamed Song
6. Amethyst
7. Art Of Life
8. Alive
9. *********(new song)
Japanese Cd :
1. Rusty Nail
2. Kurenai
3. Silent Jealousy
4. Weekend / Scars
5. Tears
6. Endless Rain
7. Forever Love
8. Dahlia
9. Longing / Say Anything
10. X
11. ******(new song)
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I hope they do this... my tracklist, not based on any particular order
Blue Blood 2010 (Japanese)
Silent Jealousy 2010 (Japanese)
Kurenai 2010
Week End 2010
Rusty Nail 2010 (English)
Endless Rain (English)
an instrumental song by Sugizo-Pata-heath
I.V. 2 (new "longer" version)
Jade
Without You
Born to Be Free
Forever Love (english)
and a Bonus Track, VANISHING LOVE 2010
If they really do that, it'll feels like I'm dying n go to heaven xD
I like that one. :D My list was exactly the same, except with X instead of the instrumental. Now THAT would be an album. *_*
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Hm, either in a studio album of live album, they should include a version of the sugizo/yoshiki duet.
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Expected tracklisting (No particular order):
1. Jade
2. I.V.
3. Without You
4. Rusty Nail
5. Kurenai
6. Endless Rain
7. Born To Be Free
8. New Song [Rocker]
9. New Song [Ballad]
10. X [It's possible.]
My wishlist [again in no particular order]
1. I.V.
2. Jade
3. Without You
4. Rusty Nail
5. Kurenai
6. Born To Be Free
7. New Song
8. Endless Rain
9. Sadistic Desire
10. Dahlia
11. Forever Love
12. The Last Song
13. Another New Song
14. Joker or Silent Jealousy
15. Epic New Closer Song
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Seems the album will be released early September
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://www.herfitzpr.com/http___web.me.com_herfitz_Site_Welcome.html/X_Japan_Home.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dxradicaldreamers%26hl%3Den&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&usg=ALkJrhgpFsP6aMcp3mdVuVuYnAD8qCIzbA
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lol, it says September 2011, I think they made a mistake there. http://www.herfitzpr.com/http___web.me.com_herfitz_Site_Welcome.html/X_Japan_Home.html It says early 2011 now. Didn't Yoshiki say, however many times it gets delayed it will be definitely released before 2011. :( Oh well.
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Its must be a typo on the site, its definatly meant to be early Spetember 2010, it has to be, there's no way after hearing Tears at lollapalooza and Yokohama, I.V is already done, Jade must be already done, the others we don't know of, but we were all pretty certain they were basically finished a month ago, there's no way its been delayed to 4th quarter 2011.
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this is cool... especially since I'm in Japan until September 12th... so maybe it comes early enough :D
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Another article (about the Nissan lives) said that they'll try to finish the album before the US tour so September isn't really an option I think. Early 2011 is probably the best estimate.
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early 2011 might be pretty real indeed. but since we all know X, september 2011 might still be an option.
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I think they're making progress certainly. If you listen carefully in the acoustic/strings section of Jade at the Yokohama lives at the weekend you'll notice that real string sections have now been recorded as opposed to the synthesised strings which were there originally.
I think it will be released late 2010.
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dude, if you post a translated version of course it will give you some typos xd It's early 2011 when the album will be released.
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dude, if you post a translated version of course it will give you some typos xd It's early 2011 when the album will be released.
I guess Yoshiki will commit hari kiri, then.
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I guess Yoshiki will commit hari kiri, then.
At least that will make some people happy.
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I guess Yoshiki will commit hari kiri, then.
At least that will make some people happy.
I don't care how pissed off some people get with Yoshiki's business decisions, wanting him dead for it is just ever-so-slightly warped.
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I guess Yoshiki will commit hari kiri, then.
Haha
I guess they mean the US version, maybe we'll have the album first released in Japan and later in the US
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With an US tour this fall it'd be kinda stupid. Maybe they just realized that with the Headwax crap on them right now, they won't be able to rehearse for the US tour AND finish the album. The recording might be done but you know Yoshiki - he has to be there every second of the editing and mixing process (else they'll add some fucking triplets XD). That might be true even without the Headwax stuff, of course, since there is just over a month before the US shows.
So it's either rehearse new/old songs or mix the new album. I personally think that while the first option is better for the hardcore fans (yay Standing Sex and whatnot), the second one would've been better promotion-wise.
But with the Headwax stuff now, they might be too occupied to properly do both, so they pushed the album release back even more.
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With an US tour this fall it'd be kinda stupid. Maybe they just realized that with the Headwax crap on them right now, they won't be able to rehearse for the US tour AND finish the album. The recording might be done but you know Yoshiki - he has to be there every second of the editing and mixing process (else they'll add some fucking triplets XD). That might be true even without the Headwax stuff, of course, since there is just over a month before the US shows.
So it's either rehearse new/old songs or mix the new album. I personally think that while the first option is better for the hardcore fans (yay Standing Sex and whatnot), the second one would've been better promotion-wise.
But with the Headwax stuff now, they might be too occupied to properly do both, so they pushed the album release back even more.
I bet the tour is delayed in light of the court-case. It would be so typical.
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Unless they really-really-really want to show hide's images, I doubt it. Besides I don't think their management is THAT stupid. It's not a big enough reason for anyone to think of postponing the tour, specially as the court case could take years.
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I prefer to wait a little bit more for the release of this cd, than I am sure there will be no triplets in there :D
I guess the release will be between now and beginning early 2011! That seems to be very realistic to me :D
We will see when it is ready, let them the time to achieve it properly!
I am wondering for the PV's. Will they be released at the same time as the cd? Or earlier? I am really CURIOUS to see the full versions!
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8GsKfsswX8[/youtube]
ArtisanNews speaks with Yo-she-key about X Japan's first album in 14 years, which will have English lyrics for the first time in the history of mankind!
Also, I messaged them to ask when this interview took place, maybe we'll get more insight if the 'album early next year' thing is true or not.
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Thanks for posting that. Really interesting...and in English!
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Thanks for the vid, interesting indeed.:)
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Yoshiki says here "with our news songs we're focusing on the melody, not the technical the side of it" which I think is wrong to say, imo the more complex and technical songs sometimes emphasise and push the melody even more, and are able to include many different melodies within one song making the songs even more interesting. Hearing Yoshiki say that just says to me even more he's not the classical composer he once was, skillfully or mentally.
But I have to say, even though I.V, Jade and Born to be Free are lacking in technical aspects imo they're far better songs than most of Iron Maidens' new album 'The final Frontier'. I just listened to it, and apart from 'Eldorado' The 'Talisman' and the 'The alchemist', that album bores me to tears.
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Yoshiki says here "with our news songs we're focusing on the melody, not the technical the side of it" which I think is wrong to say, imo the more complex and technical songs sometimes emphasise and push the melody even more, and are able to include many different melodies within one song making the songs even more interesting. Hearing Yoshiki say that just says to me even more he's not the classical composer he once was, skillfully or mentally.
But I have to say, even though I.V, Jade and Born to be Free are lacking in technical aspects imo they're far better songs than most of Iron Maidens' new album 'The final Frontier'. I just listened to it, and apart from 'Eldorado' The 'Talisman' and the 'The alchemist', that album bores me to tears.
I wouldn't say that Jade and I.V. aren't technical. There are some flourishes of real genius in some of his chord sequences and vocal melodies, and there are also some really quite awkward key changes in Jade which certainly aren't amateur.
The whole idea that X Japan's new material is less technically sound than their old stuff is a myth, which is mainly based on the fact that people seem to think that a song needs to have bone-shatteringly-fast-drums, great guitar parts and insane solos in order to be a technical piece of music. Instrumentally the newer material is certainly weaker, especially in terms of guitar parts, but that doesn't mean that a song is any less technical. Some of X Japan's fastest songs are actually probably some of the least imaginative and least difficult-to-write music that they have put out. Take Orgasm and I'll Kill You for example, they're both very, very simple songs essentially based around simple chord sequences.
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Yoshiki says here "with our news songs we're focusing on the melody, not the technical the side of it" which I think is wrong to say, imo the more complex and technical songs sometimes emphasise and push the melody even more, and are able to include many different melodies within one song making the songs even more interesting. Hearing Yoshiki say that just says to me even more he's not the classical composer he once was, skillfully or mentally.
But I have to say, even though I.V, Jade and Born to be Free are lacking in technical aspects imo they're far better songs than most of Iron Maidens' new album 'The final Frontier'. I just listened to it, and apart from 'Eldorado' The 'Talisman' and the 'The alchemist', that album bores me to tears.
I wouldn't say that Jade and I.V. aren't technical. There are some flourishes of real genius in some of his chord sequences and vocal melodies, and there are also some really quite awkward key changes in Jade which certainly aren't amateur.
The whole idea that X Japan's new material is less technically sound than their old stuff is a myth, which is mainly based on the fact that people seem to think that a song needs to have bone-shatteringly-fast-drums, great guitar parts and insane solos in order to be a technical piece of music. Instrumentally the newer material is certainly weaker, especially in terms of guitar parts, but that doesn't mean that a song is any less technical. Some of X Japan's fastest songs are actually probably some of the least imaginative and least difficult-to-write music that they have put out. Take Orgasm and I'll Kill You for example, they're both very, very simple songs essentially based around simple chord sequences.
@Ulquiorra: I liked pretty much the new Iron Maiden album, I think it is awesome. Once again Iron Maiden reinveted themselves in a very good way.
@Beauty/Broken: I have to disagree. Jade and I.V. are not technical songs nor complex. I think I watched some interview of Yoshiki saying that those key changes are hard to play, but they are not. You say that Orgasm and I'll kill you are very simple songs based around simple chord sequences, what it's different in I.V. and Jade? Think about it =). Jade and I.V. both have a "creative" intro wich is repited in the song like 4 times, the rest of the song are just simple powerchords and a noisy solo that I don't really like. For me solos have to have a meaning, doesn't matter if they are slow, fast, noisy, as long as they have a meaning I believe they're great solos. That's not the case in Jade and I.V., where the solo is just noise improvisation.
Don't get me wrong, I like the new songs but I just disagree in that whole think of they being complex and technical.
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Yoshiki says here "with our news songs we're focusing on the melody, not the technical the side of it" which I think is wrong to say, imo the more complex and technical songs sometimes emphasise and push the melody even more, and are able to include many different melodies within one song making the songs even more interesting. Hearing Yoshiki say that just says to me even more he's not the classical composer he once was, skillfully or mentally.
But I have to say, even though I.V, Jade and Born to be Free are lacking in technical aspects imo they're far better songs than most of Iron Maidens' new album 'The final Frontier'. I just listened to it, and apart from 'Eldorado' The 'Talisman' and the 'The alchemist', that album bores me to tears.
I wouldn't say that Jade and I.V. aren't technical. There are some flourishes of real genius in some of his chord sequences and vocal melodies, and there are also some really quite awkward key changes in Jade which certainly aren't amateur.
The whole idea that X Japan's new material is less technically sound than their old stuff is a myth, which is mainly based on the fact that people seem to think that a song needs to have bone-shatteringly-fast-drums, great guitar parts and insane solos in order to be a technical piece of music. Instrumentally the newer material is certainly weaker, especially in terms of guitar parts, but that doesn't mean that a song is any less technical. Some of X Japan's fastest songs are actually probably some of the least imaginative and least difficult-to-write music that they have put out. Take Orgasm and I'll Kill You for example, they're both very, very simple songs essentially based around simple chord sequences.
@Ulquiorra: I liked pretty much the new Iron Maiden album, I think it is awesome. Once again Iron Maiden reinveted themselves in a very good way.
@Beauty/Broken: I have to disagree. Jade and I.V. are not technical songs nor complex. I think I watched some interview of Yoshiki saying that those key changes are hard to play, but they are not. You say that Orgasm and I'll kill you are very simple songs based around simple chord sequences, what it's different in I.V. and Jade? Think about it =). Jade and I.V. both have a "creative" intro wich is repited in the song like 4 times, the rest of the song are just simple powerchords and a noisy solo that I don't really like. For me solos have to have a meaning, doesn't matter if they are slow, fast, noisy, as long as they have a meaning I believe they're great solos. That's not the case in Jade and I.V., where the solo is just noise improvisation.
Don't get me wrong, I like the new songs but I just disagree in that whole think of they being complex and technical.
Apart from songs like Crucify my love, practically every X Japan song contains powerchords. No one powerchord is any less 'simple' than any other, it's just a route, a fifth and an octave. And to me, a 'solo' doesn't make a song. A song should be able to stand on it's own feet regardless.
3:11 to 3:42 in I.V. is not a simple chord sequence, it's actually quite brilliant given that it's constantly moving, it's not based around a repeated pattern like most sections of music are. Compare this to something like I'll Kill You, and you've got a song that's practically entirely based around 3 powerchords throughout. Sure, it's fast and has loads of crazy guitar parts and insane drumming. Doesn't mean it's good song writing, or any more technical than I.V. To me it's quite boring actually.
Don't get me wrong, as a multi-instrumentalist I think their new stuff is piss easy to play and their older stuff harder. But as a song writer, the new stuff tends to be far more imaginative from a song writing perspective, and in places has some really, really good ideas. In honesty, some of their really fast stuff is just garbage. X Japan are only at their best when they're doing something imaginative, else they'd just be no different from any other speed metal outfit.
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I am a multi-instrumentalist as well, so I do undertand your points, Beauty/Broken, even if I may disagree in some of them. I did not say that the solo make the song, just specified what I think is a good solo. There's many songs without a solo part that are really awesome.
In that section of I.V. yes, they changed the rythm and tempo, but they still using a secuense of powerchord with thirds, if I'm not wrong. But yeah, it is indeed a very good part. Almost every Metal song is based on powerchords, so I realize that it's pointless to argue this. Again, I did not say that a super fast song is always a good song. Let me say that I love songs with creative changes of tempos and rythm, like Art of Life. In conclution, I really like I.V. and Jade, I just don't think their are hard, complex and technical.
I think this songs are like, Celebration, Joker, Miscast and Easy Fight Rambling. Not in style but about creative. These songs are quite different from their fast songs (wich I really like). They have more riffs variations and some of them are really really hard to play, at least to me.
What do you think about Born to be free?
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What do you think about Born to be free?
I think the chorus is quite catchy and anthemic, and I like the middle section with the spoken word part, the little orchestral breakdown and the tone-drop before the final chorus.
But I think that the rest of it sounds a little corny, feels a little forced. I'm also not sure it gels together particularly well as a song, the transition from verse to chorus feels like Yoshiki ran out of ideas in how to connect the two, so just decided to try and make it fit.
It's different, though, which is a good thing. It shows at least that Yoshiki hasn't ran out of musical blue-prints for the band to follow.
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I personally really like Jade, I.V., and Born to be Free (and Without You if you count that). I know they tend to be more simplistic but I still think theyre awesome songs. The new studio version of Jade especially... I REALLY think they nailed it and like Sugizo's solo. Anyways, Im really excited about the new album but im worried it might become just a "best of" album with the three new songs. From what it sounds like, there isn't a lot of other new material. Im still excited to hear the re recorded songs but we still already have the actual songs. Do you guys think theres a chance for more new material on the album that we haven't heard yet? Itll be awesome no matter what but a buzzkill if we've heard everything on it...
Thoughts?
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I personally really like Jade, I.V., and Born to be Free (and Without You if you count that). I know they tend to be more simplistic but I still think theyre awesome songs. The new studio version of Jade especially... I REALLY think they nailed it and like Sugizo's solo. Anyways, Im really excited about the new album but im worried it might become just a "best of" album with the three new songs. From what it sounds like, there isn't a lot of other new material. Im still excited to hear the re recorded songs but we still already have the actual songs. Do you guys think theres a chance for more new material on the album that we haven't heard yet? Itll be awesome no matter what but a buzzkill if we've heard everything on it...
Thoughts?
Well, Yoshiki said, that 50% are gonna be new songs. So I expect at least 2 more new songs. They mentioned something about Sugizo´s song, so that can be on of these new, that we didnt hear yet. I just hope we wont hear them all months before the release. I want to be surprised by something.
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I really hope that they include Without You...the absence of it being played this year makes me think they may not.
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To be honest its for the best they don't include it, to make it in the U.S. they need to have the same attitude with the album as they have with the tour, more rock, less emphesis on ballads. They've kind of already failed that by including Endless Rain and Tears, having Without You in there as well would be completly ott.
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I wouldnt say its ruined by them playing endless rain and tears, as long as they dont ever do it, it just shows their versatility
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The ballads are also their best songs so might be a good idea to include them.
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So...weren't we supposed to get a completed album this Summer? I know Yoshiki and Toshi have mentioned still recording, but the last I remember hearing was back in late winter/early spring, that we'd be getting it in the summer that just passed us. Anyone have any idea when the new slated expected time is?
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I bet at Xmas, anyone with me?
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I bet spring of 2030 ;)
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I don't think it will release this year....but that's just me being positive XD I can sort of imagine it never being released!
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Yeah, wasn't there supposed to be a Blue Blood contest(that I totes should've won XD) that was an invitation to a CD release party? Let alone a Blue Blood fanclub??? >P
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Yeah, wasn't there supposed to be a Blue Blood contest(that I totes should've won XD) that was an invitation to a CD release party? Let alone a Blue Blood fanclub??? >P
Yeah, someone on here won it I believe.
I don't think it will release this year....but that's just me being positive XD I can sort of imagine it never being released!
It will be Violet UK all over again, Release date: "Soon"
I don't even know what's taking them so long when 50% of it is old songs, just with new vocals, they aren't even re-recording the other instruments! But that was a while ago when Yoshiki said that so I think they're probably fully re-recording everything now. Well, I hope anyway.
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I dont believe it will ever get released. Really. Yoshiki will release Born To Be Free and Scarlet Love Song as digital singles on iTunes and suddenly its 2013 and X Japan will break up.
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It looks like they may be re-recording the old songs afterall. Toshi mentioned they were re-recording Kurenai in an interview recently (which I still believe will include an unreleased new hide Kurenai solo).
Ages ago, we talked about the old songs not having a consistent production level to the newer recordings and I still think this is the problem Yo-chan is having.
My "fanboy" side wants the album ASAP. My musician and music fan side wants an album that's flowing and cohesive...
Somewhere in between would be nice.
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Toshi mentioned they were re-recording Kurenai in an interview recently (which I still believe will include an unreleased new hide Kurenai solo).
plz. Let's stop with this, hide is dead. They need to do a NEW album.
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Toshi mentioned they were re-recording Kurenai in an interview recently (which I still believe will include an unreleased new hide Kurenai solo).
plz. Let's stop with this, hide is dead. They need to do a NEW album.
Haha, a half-assed re-recorded album is taking them ages, imagine how long a new one would take, as much as I'd want one. I also can't believe Yoshiki is STILL working on the debut Violet UK. :(
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I bet spring of 2030 ;)
hahahahahahaha! that made my day....
starting something new(!) at the age when other go in pension...
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I doubt it will be released this year, but eventually it will be.
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I strongly bet the album will be out either very late this year or first quarter of 2012. I've been in contact with someone from their booking agency and they confirmed they are hoping to have the band back in N.America for an album tour either late 2011 or Q1 2012. I truly think Q1 2012. Also @ ForeverFades, looks like the Blue Blood contest was a bust...I'd like it if the person who won would comment more on these forums..they posted when they won. And for the record, even if you had won, you shouldn't have since you cheated. Hahaha.
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Yoshiki is the laziest superstar there is. He made a name for himself in Japan since the late 80s and now he is trying the same here in the west. The problem is that he is not releasing enough stuff to make it here. You cant just release some singles on iTunes and go to Hollywood parties and believe you will be huge here, its not working. Most of the fans on the US, EU (me) and SA tour are fans that discovered the band through the internet (torrents, youtube...). As much as i love Yoshiki and X Japan, he need to stop playing or acting like a nurse and get to work. X and WE need a new album now, worldwide.
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Yoshiki needs to PERSISTENTLY bombard the US media with stuff if they have any hope of making it big. I mean its not like their stuff is that available in the US market....
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Been a while since I logged in here.. So still no definite news about the new album yet?..
Was hoping to hear the 'rock' version of "Without You" one day.. Although there is a demo I found posted on youtube with piano and Toshi's vocals, that sounded very nice.
I wasn't really caught on by "Born to be free" or "Scarlett Love Song" unfortunately.. I don't exactly want them to go back to the old metal/thrash style just for the sake of it, but these two songs in particular, just sounded a little empty to me.. aside from Toshi's singing..
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Born to be free is way better live i think.
and scarlet love song... that's actually more like a toshi feat. yoshiki song xD Though I think that with that song, you have to keep in mind that it was written as background music, so it would sound weird in the anime if there was too much. in the trailer it sounds fantastic the way it is i think.
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Thanks for your response AsukaMiyu
Well, I admit I only listened to "Scarlett Love Song" once, maybe I should listen more. I don't mind the 'soundtrack' feel of it.. It just reminded me a bit too much of "The Last Song".
Don't get me wrong, I like the ballads.. "Tears", "Crucify My Love", "The Last Song" etc.. but, hopefully the ballads don't all sound the same..
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It seems Yoshiki is treating X-Japan as a side project as of late, excuse after excuse about the completeness of the album,which should have been finished ages ago, it feels like he'd rather do fashion shows than work on the album lately.
Meh, it just annoys me. :/
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bump:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/x-japan-yoshiki-golden-globes-theme-280576
In a new interview with Yoshiki, he claims the album is now 90% complete, lower than what he said before. lol.
"It will be released in 2012 for sure" I hope he doesn't go back on his word.
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You should also read that he said he's been distracted from finishing the album because of doing this music for the oscars (probably for at least a month or two) and that he's now putting finishing the album at first priority, he's even said to people asking him to compose music for a film that he's going to put that aside for now and finish the album first.
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Yeah, he says a lot of things. Let's just hope it's true. It's still funny how the album went from 95 to 90% xD
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Here's a (possibly) better article which states the album will be finished in several weeks. http://www.billboard.com/news/x-japan-leader-yoshiki-pens-new-golden-globes-1005856552.story#/news/x-japan-leader-yoshiki-pens-new-golden-globes-1005856552.story
Also, it's very possible for it to go from 95% - 90% especially since Yoshiki admitted one of the reasons for the delay is his decision to add one more song to the album.
The next question is - how long will it take EMI to produce the copies and get them shipped since I ASSUME/HOPE it will be physically released in stores. I'm guessing end of Feb/March for it.
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I doubt he is treating X Japan like a side project, I think its just the people around him wanting to get the name brand out there. Yoshiki has been doing alot by himself that included Golden globes, the Sirius Radio Show, charities and events but it gets him and X Japan exposure. Especially since the World Tour and other X Japan stuff has kept em busy.
Hopefully this all pays off and gets X Japan more well known around the US their new focus
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[–]EllaMolochkovetskaya 1 point 33 minutes ago
When do you plan to release the new album?
[–]YoshikiOfficial 5 points a minute ago
Aiming for March 3rd [2017]. Day before our Wembley Arena show.
source
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/5b5986/i_am_yoshiki_songwriter_music_producer_drummer/d9lx2fm/?context=3
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1) Way to necro a 4+ year old thread
2) Makes me cringe reading my comment from 4 years ago and STILL nothing has changed on the album front
3) I missed the AMA unfortunately but that's a complete drag that it's March 3, and even then it's "AIMING"...Yoshiki is really frustrating.
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1) Way to necro a 4+ year old thread
2) Makes me cringe reading my comment from 4 years ago and STILL nothing has changed on the album front
3) I missed the AMA unfortunately but that's a complete drag that it's March 3, and even then it's "AIMING"...Yoshiki is really frustrating.
Feudal, you and I seem to always be on the same page with Yoshiki dragging his feet and the overall lack of communication with the fandom. Especially with this damn album. But, I have to say, I've been following things very closely recently. Just got home from the Brooklyn "We are X" screening, where Yoshiki and the director did some Q&A afterwards. I also went to an interview with the two of them about a month ago. He's not talking about the album much but he does seem to be very focused on getting it out finally. I think he's finally realizing that he's wasting momentum that the film is giving him to launch off of and it's time to get it done. Just the overall impression I'm getting from him and the director (can never remember his name) that the album is finally rounding out.
Honestly, I'll take "aiming for" over the complete radio silence we've been getting up until recently. It at least seems like it's finally a priority again over all the lame ass side projects.
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He's always just 'aiming for' the dates he announces anyway, at least he was honest this time. ;P
But actually I think that by March is already too late. The album should be out NOW already. If you watch the documentary and get more interested there's nothing you can buy to get into them more. Aside of some iTunes downloads. :/
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He's always just 'aiming for' the dates he announces anyway, at least he was honest this time. ;P
But actually I think that by March is already too late. The album should be out NOW already. If you watch the documentary and get more interested there's nothing you can buy to get into them more. Aside of some iTunes downloads. :/
Don't get me wrong, I'm still extremely critical of the circlejerk that's been going on with Yoshiki and his lack of communication. I absolutely agree things are long, long, long past due. I'm just saying, I am at least getting the impression that Yoshiki seems pretty focused on the album and less so on needlessly pointless projects like Hello Kitty type stuff.
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I really really really do hope that this time he's serious. It's time to keep your promise of bringing out a new album, Yoshiki!
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Didn't he promised the album would be out in 2015?
Oh yes, he did!
http://yoshikiofficial.tumblr.com/post/106797340305/my-dear-fans-happy-new-year-thank-you-so
Year 2015, I’ll be touring again with Xjapan, as well as Yoshiki classical.
I think we may tour Japan for the 1st time in a long time.
Hopefully we can tour even more cities around the world to see you as well.
And I promise that Xjapan will release the album this year!
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@StarWarsArtist If you consider organising festivals, promoting the documentary movie all over the world and preparing for his classical tour 'being focused on the album' ...then yeah, he is focused on it. :P I really hope he does, but there's been times that he actually seemed close to a possible release... >_<
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@StarWarsArtist If you consider organising festivals, promoting the documentary movie all over the world and preparing for his classical tour 'being focused on the album' ...then yeah, he is focused on it. :P I really hope he does, but there's been times that he actually seemed close to a possible release... >_<
I actually do consider what he's doing with promoting "We are X" to be towards the X album. They're shown working on it in the studio. They talk about the album a little bit in the Q&A (not much, but it happens). The documentary is raising awareness of X Japan. I've seen him on my local news, something I NEVER thought I would see. I've seen him on Reddit, another thing I never thought I'd see. He definitely should have had the album out a thousand times over by now. But he's only realizing this now, is the impression I get. It's too late, so at least do the best you can to get it moving now. Again, not saying it's wise or even that it wasn't intentional. However, he does seem to be putting his effort into it now. I've been very vocal on this board for years about how frustrated and over Yoshiki's bullshitting us I am. It's not a lot, but I genuinely feel it's FINALLY a step in the right direction.
Would it have been smart to release the album simultaneously with the doc? Of course. Should we have had this album years ago? Absolutely. But the fact is, right now we've got nothing, and it looks like we'll finally be getting something. Most of us cynics gave up on the album ever being released in the first place. So worst case scenario, we're right and our expectations weren't dashed. But I'm starting to believe it won't be the case anymore.
Unless he announces a new fucking Hello Kitty doll and then I'm going to jump off the nearest building.
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"Later this year"
http://www.forbes.com/sites/danafeldman/2017/01/10/rockers-x-japan-crossover-stateside-with-help-from-famous-fans-and-new-album/#6fe8bc3e1b6f
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Well since we're only 10 days into "this year" it might just happens this time xD
Or not. Maybe. I really don't know anymore...
I guess we'll be a little more fixed in March?
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Hmmm, that article also mentions a "We Are X" documentary soundtrack...is this going to be released or is this confusion with the new album?
If it is a release, my guess is it will be another compilation with La Venus added on at the end? Would be a nice tide over until the new album...
EDIT: Listening to the live Facebook interview Yoshiki did for Paste Magazine today, it looks like La Venus will be coming out as a single in February (the interviewer suggested the date as 02.02 and even Yoshiki didn't believe it would be that early!), the documentary soundtrack sometime in March, (maybe that is the X Day release?) and the new album is "on its way".
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Hmmm, that article also mentions a "We Are X" documentary soundtrack...is this going to be teleased or is this confusion with the new album?
If it is a release, my guess is it will be another compilation with La Venus added on at the end? Would be a nice tide over until the new album...
Maybe I'm just being greedy, but it'd be nice if both the soundtrack & album would drop in March.
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"Later this year"
http://www.forbes.com/sites/danafeldman/2017/01/10/rockers-x-japan-crossover-stateside-with-help-from-famous-fans-and-new-album/#6fe8bc3e1b6f
X Japan was founded by childhood friends Yoshiki, a composer, songwriter, classically-trained pianist and drummer and Toshi, the band’s lead singer, in 1982 when the two were in high school.
What a humble description lol
Talking about the release of the album, I don't see that happening before the concert in Wembley (and I wouldn't be surprised if even that is not happening).
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Well what a surprise ;) At least with Yoshiki we never know what to expect ;)
So another postponed of the untitled album, hope he will tell why, maybe to include new material ? Which is funny as the album was scheduled on March 2016.
But the other news is We Are X Soundtrack ? Correct me if Im wrong, but We Are X is made mostly of X Japan songs isnt it ? So the best thing will be a "best of album" with live performance of Jade at Madisson, or X at Tokyo Dome 2008 , the worst will be another "best of" that will include songs from the new album (IV or Jade) before the release of the new album, which will be silly.
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*headdesk*
The lack of announcements straight from the band themselves is making this slightly more confusing/annoying.
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This is all very confusing. ???
So the album will drop sometime this year, there might be a We are X Soundtrack (whatever they want to put on that Soundtrack besides La Venus) and the single release of La Venus is in sight? @___@ Oooookay. Whatever. I doubt everything until I have the album/single/whatever in both of my hands.
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Yoshiki forever saying the album's 90% done. ::)
Hopefully there will be good news at Wembley or sooner.
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So now that this album isn't coming out around this time (again)...I'm starting to wonder if the We Are X soundtrack was put out just because the album isn't done.
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I would just count on it not actually coming out and being pleasantly surprised if to does, tbh. After all we've already heard every song on this album besides KTS, but there's no telling when that will happen either. And getting an album you've already heard 9 out of 10 songs of... well, that doesn't really count as a new album either.
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But all we know are work-in-progress versions and not the finished masterpieces that yoshiki will put on the album!!! [sarcasm mode off]
Some days ago a new Poll went online on Xplosion about when people think we'll get the new album. The results so far illustrate are both amusing and sad. -___-
http://www.xplosion-online.com/?p=7097#.WI2XAmkxnqA
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https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/5b5986/i_am_yoshiki_songwriter_music_producer_drummer/d9lx2fm/?st=iyjuvo1j&sh=1dc4109f
"Aiming for March 3rd. Day before our Wembley Arena show."
If it was truly coming out on March 3rd, the marketing and promotion campaign for the album would've started by now, am I right? And now that he's busy with the "We Are X" soundtrack, I really don't see the likelihood of the album coming out that soon. My optimism is hanging by a thread.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/5b5986/i_am_yoshiki_songwriter_music_producer_drummer/d9lx2fm/?st=iyjuvo1j&sh=1dc4109f
"Aiming for March 3rd. Day before our Wembley Arena show."
If it was truly coming out on March 3rd, the marketing and promotion campaign for the album would've started by now, am I right? And now that he's busy with the "We Are X" soundtrack, I really don't see the likelihood of the album coming out that soon. My optimism is hanging by a thread.
I don't understand how can he be busy with We Are X soundtrack, as it has only previously released songs, except for La Venus.
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So it's still supposed to be released in March, as I thought ; official at least.
But considering that this message was 2 months ago and since then, not much happened, it would be a surprise if the album is eventually released in a month... Plus, the soundtrack release as more or less an excuse for an potential postponement (that's how I feel it anyway).
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99% done haha
https://www.channel4.com/news/yoshiki-hayashi-big-in-japan-again
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it's only a few weeks until the release, isn't it? ...
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(https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder21/400x/53693021.jpg)
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I would take a 99% done album... the question isn't "Is it done?" It's more "Is it reaaaaally going to be released one beautiful day?"
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The first clip on this page has what sounds like some studio snips of Kiss The Sky?
https://mobile.rakuten.co.jp/movie_gallery/
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hey,
thx for teh link.
Tomorrow it's the day! March 3rd. The album release date!... .. ...... not.
the truth is:
According to Yoshiki at the Metal Hammer Facebook Live Q&A, it's not done yet.
"...next few ... or severel month. I promise!"
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Yea, I guess we just take what we can get! Looking forward for my CD to arrive next week where I can listen to La Venus and Without You on a decent stereo.
And I hope everyone who sees them on Saturday has an awesome time! I am excited about what the setlist will end up being like!
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According to his tweet the new date is sometime this summer...
https://twitter.com/YoshikiOfficial/status/845107872459476992
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7rafERVYAEkw6s.jpg)
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According to his tweet the new date is sometime this summer...
https://twitter.com/YoshikiOfficial/status/845107872459476992
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7rafERVYAEkw6s.jpg)
When he posted these pictures I realized that he has weird ears. Never saw that before.
Back to topic... well album release this summer? And tour? Sounds like a plan... if it's really about to happen this time. Nobody knows...
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According to his tweet the new date is sometime this summer...
https://twitter.com/YoshikiOfficial/status/845107872459476992
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7rafERVYAEkw6s.jpg)
Summer? Ehh? That's cool (if Yoshiki's telling the damn TRUTH this time). I'll definitely be going to a show, come Hell or high water
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According to his tweet the new date is sometime this summer...
https://twitter.com/YoshikiOfficial/status/845107872459476992 (https://twitter.com/YoshikiOfficial/status/845107872459476992)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7rafERVYAEkw6s.jpg)
Let's hope it REALLY is this Summer... ::)
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All I can say is that it would have been amazing to have it out either years ago or if this late in the game, be all new.
I can't help but feel double wronged by the fact that X did not become a new band and are releasing the album this late. They didn't begin again. They're just another vintage act playing shows occasionally to milk their fanbase or feel like they used to or SOMETHING.
Yoshiki spent way too much time on stuff that didn't matter. I hope the curry and the keychains and the face masks were worth more than the music, because that's what he's been telling us.
Rant but ToshI to me has been the only one to seem truly invested and has come off the most genuine and the most awe-inspiring to watch with the comeback. He has given his all to increasing his vocal performance and everyone has noticed. He has been a true musician! It has been a joy to hear him sing X songs again. I will say that I am looking forward to hearing his beautiful voice on the new songs.
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Rant but ToshI to me has been the only one to seem truly invested and has come off the most genuine and the most awe-inspiring to watch with the comeback. He has given his all to increasing his vocal performance and everyone has noticed. He has been a true musician! It has been a joy to hear him sing X songs again. I will say that I am looking forward to hearing his beautiful voice on the new songs.
THANK YOU for pointing that out!! I feel like Toshi isn't even getting half of the appreciation he deserves!
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Rant but ToshI to me has been the only one to seem truly invested and has come off the most genuine and the most awe-inspiring to watch with the comeback. He has given his all to increasing his vocal performance and everyone has noticed. He has been a true musician! It has been a joy to hear him sing X songs again. I will say that I am looking forward to hearing his beautiful voice on the new songs.
true dat
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Damn, you just summed up exactly how I feel at the moment about X and Toshi. So ... yeah, what he said!
All I can say is that it would have been amazing to have it out either years ago or if this late in the game, be all new.
I can't help but feel double wronged by the fact that X did not become a new band and are releasing the album this late. They didn't begin again. They're just another vintage act playing shows occasionally to milk their fanbase or feel like they used to or SOMETHING.
Yoshiki spent way too much time on stuff that didn't matter. I hope the curry and the keychains and the face masks were worth more than the music, because that's what he's been telling us.
Rant but ToshI to me has been the only one to seem truly invested and has come off the most genuine and the most awe-inspiring to watch with the comeback. He has given his all to increasing his vocal performance and everyone has noticed. He has been a true musician! It has been a joy to hear him sing X songs again. I will say that I am looking forward to hearing his beautiful voice on the new songs.
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X Japan set to release new album in June
https://www.barks.jp/news/?id=1000140364#utm_source=tw_BARKS_NEWS&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=tw_auto
According to some accounts on Twitter, Yoshiki mentioned the release date being 30th June on his Yoshiki Channel live broadcast (happening right at this moment). There will be 13 songs.
Rejoice!
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X Japan set to release new album in June
https://www.barks.jp/news/?id=1000140364#utm_source=tw_BARKS_NEWS&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=tw_auto
According to some accounts on Twitter, Yoshiki mentioned the release date being 30th June on his Yoshiki Channel live broadcast (happening right at this moment). There will be 13 songs.
Rejoice!
Sounds like awesome news. ^^b
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X Japan set to release new album in June
https://www.barks.jp/news/?id=1000140364#utm_source=tw_BARKS_NEWS&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=tw_auto
According to some accounts on Twitter, Yoshiki mentioned the release date being 30th June on his Yoshiki Channel live broadcast (happening right at this moment). There will be 13 songs.
Rejoice!
Late June? That sounds good to me.
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This isn't April's Fools is it...
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This isn't April's Fools is it...
As usual, take anything Yoshiki said about the new album with a grain of salt ;)
Still waiting for someone to share the recording of the interview.
Fanacc on Twitter also said that The Last Song and Art of Life will be included... What?!
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Fanacc on Twitter also said that The Last Song and Art of Life will be included... What?!
Hmmm, I could kind of believe The Last Song actually...remember the photo Yoshiki posted of the Master Album Sequences in 2015? Tracklisting that could be seen had 1. The Las....
I just wonder if this will be the case, will it be a re-recording or the original track from the end of the 90s? I would think if it was included and would be the opening, it would need to definitely be at the least arranged into a shorter version.
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Fanacc on Twitter also said that The Last Song and Art of Life will be included... What?!
Hmmm, I could kind of believe The Last Song actually...remember the photo Yoshiki posted of the Master Album Sequences in 2015? Tracklisting that could be seen had 1. The Las....
I just wonder if this will be the case, will it be a re-recording or the original track from the end of the 90s? I would think if it was included and would be the opening, it would need to definitely be at the least arranged into a shorter version.
(http://jrock247.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/JRock247-X-Japan-Yoshiki-2015-new-album-tease.jpg)
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This isn't April's Fools is it...
My first thoughts, too. ;)
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Well about the Last Song and Art of Life... So much about 100% new songs...? -_-
But Yoshiki keeps forgetting his own plans all the time anyway, so yeah, whatever. We'll find out whenever the album actually gets released....
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To be fair, it's hard to get things straight when you spread it over almost a decade...
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https://twitter.com/YoshikiOfficial/status/848525758939013120
Was Yoshiki just joking after all? I swear, if this was an April Fool's joke, it proves he really does not understand the frustration he's caused his fans...Yes, it's April Fool's Day, yes people like jokes and everyone is doing them, but out of ALL the things you could joke about, you pick the release date, which is a slap in the face to all of us. He could have done the interview and been like, "Yeah, the new album we're experimenting and Tosh1 is rapping on a few of the songs" ...anything. What a fucking joke.
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https://twitter.com/YoshikiOfficial/status/848525758939013120
Was Yoshiki just joking after all? I swear, if this was an April Fool's joke, it proves he really does not understand the frustration he's caused his fans...Yes, it's April Fool's Day, yes people like jokes and everyone is doing them, but out of ALL the things you could joke about, you pick the release date, which is a slap in the face to all of us. He could have done the interview and been like, "Yeah, the new album we're experimenting and Tosh1 is rapping on a few of the songs" ...anything. What a fucking joke.
If you see the comments, there are a lot of fantards thinking that is funny and cute, as usual.
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Judging it based on the previous master disc image and current "information"...
1. The Last Song
2. Jade
3. Beneath The Skin
4. Hero
5. Born To Be Free
6. Angel
7. IV
8. Kiss The Sky
9. Without You (?)
10. Art of Life (???)
11. La Venus (Full Band Version)
12. ????
13. ????
..weren't there supposed to be four instrumentals too or is my memory hazy?
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Scarlet Love Song? Rusty Nail & Tears (English version)?
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Scarlet Love Song? Rusty Nail & Tears (English version)?
Scarlet Love Song would be interesting. It seems so rejected by Yoshiki, which never played it and don't even talk about it since it was released.
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I would be very surprised if Scarlet Love Song was featured.
Yea, it has sort of been rejected since it's release...correct me if I am wrong, but the only time it was performed live was at the Toshl feat. Yoshiki shows?
I think it ended up being a song purely done for a soundtrack, though with the released title being "Scarlet Love Song -BUDDHA MIX-", perhaps it will see the light of day again in another form?
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Yeah it's like this song never happened... But it's a nice one imo, another soft song sure but nice nevertheless.
I don't think it'll be on the album but it'd be a more "new" song than most of them haha
Hero and I.V. were on soundtracks too (but, yeah, maybe SLS was purely done for this movie and that's all, which would be sad).
I'd rather have them rehabilitate SLS and ditch Hero which I think suits more VUK than X Japan.
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ah, I feel the frustration. I have another band I like and they hadn't released a full album for a decade, either, although they are much younger than X Japan :) Could be various reasons why it is always delayed, perhaps it's Yoshiki's never satisfied nature, that the songs are just not good enough in his books. In that case, I'd rather wait than hear crappy releases just for the sake of release. Or maybe there are other projects in the making that they want the album to be released simultaniously with. It's, after all, the 35th anniversary year of X, and 10th anniversary of reunion. I hope they are planning something big! :)
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This interview here, Yoshiki says that the album is ready, and mixing and mastering is under way, and release to be expected "next few months". I know, I know, Yoshiki and his "coming soon" habits. But I do hope this is serious this time.
https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2017/04/6f2d8ed98837-x-japans-yoshiki-talks-of-new-album-new-film-and-exorcising-old-demons.html
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Mixing and Mastering being underway is more of an answer than we've gotten for the last 7 years.
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This interview here, Yoshiki says that the album is ready, and mixing and mastering is under way, and release to be expected "next few months". I know, I know, Yoshiki and his "coming soon" habits. But I do hope this is serious this time.
https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2017/04/6f2d8ed98837-x-japans-yoshiki-talks-of-new-album-new-film-and-exorcising-old-demons.html
He keeps saying this since 2010 ...
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"Mixing and mastering" yeah so basically the only thing is that the songs are written and composed, that we already know for 8 years so...
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"Mixing and mastering" yeah so basically the only thing is that the songs are written and composed, that we already know for 8 years so...
I know :( But since this is a multiple anniversary year, I hope he will not delay it more and it will really come out this year.
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I truly think the album is going to be out this year though BUT I'm just dumbfounded that in April we still get the same bullshit informations we already know for YEARS!
Even for the worst-management-ever this band had for the past years and the lack of communication, with the We are X movie + soundtrack and, finally, the communication around it + the 10 years of the reunion of the band, if they still fail to release the not-so-new album, well, I don't know, I guess the re-hope I felt this last weeks/months will just fade away and I'll be feeling like the 2011-2016 era.
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Any news so far?
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It's 98% complete and coming out soon! ;)
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Any news so far?
THIS SPRING. He told me personally in Vienna. :D I think it is 100% set in stone now and no way any delays could ever happen again!!!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Teemeah, friday,
thx for setting me up to date 8)
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nb, not to get too excited. 8)
I won't believe anyone's words until I have the album in my hands. ;D
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nb, not to get too excited. 8)
I won't believe anyone's words until I have the album in my hands. ;D
X-ACTLY!!!
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Pah! You fucking haters! Great Yosh will be release the album until may! ;)
( in some a way i was saying this in 2010 or 2011...)
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Pah! You fucking haters! Great Yosh will be release the album until may! ;)
( in some a way i was saying this in 2010 or 2011...)
Yeah, but which year's may?
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Pah! You fucking haters! Great Yosh will be release the album until may! ;)
( in some a way i was saying this in 2010 or 2011...)
Yeah, but which year's may?
;D exactly
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Pah! You fucking haters! Great Yosh will be release the album until may! ;)
( in some a way i was saying this in 2010 or 2011...)
Yeah, but which year's may?
;D exactly
Well we're very close to this years May and so it must be next year in May, right nb? :D
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Well, according to today’s press conference, Yoshiki has finally, after 10 years, finished recording the album.
He mentioned that he now needs to start talks on how and when it will be released, so I assume this means mixing is also complete.
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Well, according to today’s press conference, Yoshiki has finally, after 10 years, finished recording the album.
He mentioned that he now needs to start talks on how and when it will be released, so I assume this means mixing is also complete.
Thanks for the info about the press conference. So to me that means that we'll be waiting a long time now till there will be any further information about an actual release...
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But he said months ago that he was done and he was just waiting for the right moment, so...
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But he said months ago that he was done and he was just waiting for the right moment, so...
never heard that. Always heard that he has to do the mixdown
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He has been saying that in Yoshiki Channel the last few months
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I believe that the album is finished when I see it listed on CD Japan
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This thread was started 8 years ago and still no record
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Flashforward to September 20, 2026...
This thread was started 16 years ago and still no record
;D
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This thread was started 8 years ago and still no record
and people say that I am not patient ;D
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X fans deserve a statue for their patience LOL :D
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just one? ;)
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X fans deserve a statue for their patience LOL :D
Even if these statues have already been made, many years will pass before we'll be able to enjoy them.
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To everything:
;D
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This thread was started 8 years ago and still no record
;D ;D ;D
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I believe that the album is finished when I see it listed on CD Japan
Yep!!!
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(taken from discord chat)
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(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/439018737023057921/514742244939530251/unknown.png)
(taken from discord chat)
There was no "time" to release it during 10 years. But there was "the right time" to release Hello Kitty, Curry Spices, Kimonos and two songs with fucking Hyde.
Sometimes seems like he just don't want to lose the highlight from himself.
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I dunno what to say about it... It's just mean to say this to the fans. but what have I expected? A miracle of Yoshiki changing his behavior?
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Saying the album is done and ready for release, but not releasing it is playing with our dear little fan hearts. It's not cool, Yoshiki! :'(
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WTF? >:(
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He said something similar a few months ago. My guesses are,
1. He isnt on good terms with Toshi right now and is being coy about future X activities
2. He is waiting for the band to have more momentum (a USA tour or something)
3. He doesn't care
This is all just speculation on any end
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And of course there is plenty of time for the new Yoshiki live youtube channel which he is on, live-streaming, almost every single day... and we have to PAY for it, but we don't get the CD... YET. SMH. This is getting old... very old.
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So the album is completely done but will not be released yet? Completely paradoxical but very yoshikiish.
However, he might have meant that it will be released at a more convenient time, commercially speaking? (but using Yoshiki's translator so "I don't feel it right now" etc haha)
two songs with fucking Hyde.
Two? I knew Red Swan, but there is another one?
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two songs with fucking Hyde.
Two? I knew Red Swan, but there is another one?
Hyde is releasing a single called "Zipang" in which Yoshiki plays the piano. Soooo... yeah he had time for that somehow.
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So the album is completely done but will not be released yet? Completely paradoxical but very yoshikiish.
However, he might have meant that it will be released at a more convenient time, commercially speaking? (but using Yoshiki's translator so "I don't feel it right now" etc haha)
What is a better time then the weeks before Christmas?
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If he doesn't release it for Christmas, I am gonna tear my hair out!!!!! :P
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If he doesn't release it for Christmas, I am gonna tear my hair out!!!!! :P
It definitely wont be out this year
Idk to me it seems like therr are internal problems in the band again. He wanted to record a big single under the X banner without Toshi and now he is stalling the release of a finished album.
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(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/439018737023057921/514742244939530251/unknown.png)
(taken from discord chat)
There was no "time" to release it during 10 years. But there was "the right time" to release Hello Kitty, Curry Spices, Kimonos and two songs with fucking Hyde.
Sometimes seems like he just don't want to lose the highlight from himself.
But without these things my life would be no fun. Last night I took a bath in Yoshiki wine, then lay on the bed in my Kimono eating curry flavoured crisps then I arranged my selection of Yoshikitties into a band formation and we did our own version of 'Say anything' conducted by an alpaca. Please tell me 'fucking Hyde' is a new action figure? It sounds like something I would be interested in! ;D ;)
In all seriousness though I doubt any of these things actually require that much input from Yoshiki. I think it just more likely that these companies see a fun way of making money from Yoshiki's name and he is happy to go along with it. I imagine he just turns up at occasional meetings signs off a lot of Yoshkitty designs, tastes a packet of crisps and wine and does occasional promotion here and there. I don't imagine he is sketching Yoshikitties and pressing grapes in a vineyard. Let's be honest though if someone approached me and asked if I could make money by sticking my name on a cute cat or if I would like my own brand of wine then I wouldn't refuse! ;D
The article did aslo have this question:
I was thinking watching your concert and your film, We Are X,’you have given so much of yourself in creating your music, and I was wondering, do you get that back as well?
Completely. Without music I’m probably not even alive. I was very suicidal. Maybe not past tense, maybe still. But when I do charity work as well as composing music, the music really helps me to be sane. Music is my medicine. It’s like my blood.
The world is becoming chaotic these days. Anything can happen, in a good way or in a bad way. I like to contribute my music to a more positive thing.
I think herein lies the answer. I have always viewed Yoshiki as someone who struggles mentally with depression and depressive thoughts. Depression is such a tricky and awful beast and it manifests in so many different ways. Its really common for depressed people to be very self involved as their minds are so consumed by negative internal voices that their life can become a battle to do things to raise their state or to just keep going. I think when Yoshiki says it's not the right time to release the album I think deep down that may mean that its not the right time for him to release the album, as in some ways I think it has become a crutch that keeps him going. I think he knows that this is going to be the last album and I don't think he is ready to let go of that just yet as I think the 'album' is what keeps him going. Combined with mental and physical difficulities I think there is probably an internal battle in his mind struggling to accept the realities of aging and letting go of certain things. I kinda get the impression that Yoshiki is a little lost in life at the moment and perhaps he is looking for the next thing to do in life before he can let go of the album forever? Maybe this is why he is doing things with Sarah Brightman and Hyde to kind of build another direction for himself after the album is released?
Toshi has his own interests in cooking and doing his own solo work and Sugizo has his other bands and music and his humanitarian work.
I feel like Yoshiki struggles more than the other members with life. I think luckily or unluckily for him he has the 'Yoshiki circus' to follow him around to do things for him which perhaps gives the impression that he is more 'functional' in life than he perhaps is. I think the attention and love from the fans really does keep him going as I think he is still carries this burden of guilt for Hide and Taiji.
I think on the outside for us fans it seems so obvious what needs to be done to promote X, release the album, do a tour etc. I think the reality is perhaps really very different as I think there are probably many people living off of Yoshiki's name and lifestyle along with this celebrity LA pressure to attend events and get your face out there all the time. I feel for Yoshiki in many ways.
There is also the possibility that he has the inside knowledge on the music scene and may know something we don't.
I think someone said that him and Toshi may not be getting on? I can't see that myself to be honest. Toshi's last tweet to Yoshiki was
'Happy birthday yoshiki‼️ I wish for your happiness from the bottom of my heart. Many thanks🤞🏻😎'
That doesn't sound like the words of people who aren't getting on :D I'm sure Toshi doesn't let things get to him as much these days after the trauma of the cult days.
Anyway, I must love you and leave you all. I have to go and watch a video of Toshi dressing his dog in a Tuxeodo with cat ears! :D :D
That Toshi quote is more reassuring. I hope they are ok
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So the album is completely done but will not be released yet? Completely paradoxical but very yoshikiish.
However, he might have meant that it will be released at a more convenient time, commercially speaking? (but using Yoshiki's translator so "I don't feel it right now" etc haha)
What is a better time then the weeks before Christmas?
There is not imo. Seems more like typical Y's statement regarding the not-so-new-anymore album.
BUT considering the fact that this quote seems recent maybe this Christmas wasn't conceivable (production, marketing, distribution etc.)
Again, that would only stands if it's actually true that the album is finally done etc.
And it seems he said that a couple months ago, as someone here said, so...
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1. He isnt on good terms with Toshi right now and is being coy about future X activities
2. He is waiting for the band to have more momentum (a USA tour or something)
3. He doesn't care
This.
I think when Yoshiki says it's not the right time to release the album I think deep down that may mean that its not the right time for him to release the album, as in some ways I think it has become a crutch that keeps him going. I think he knows that this is going to be the last album and I don't think he is ready to let go of that just yet
(...)
There is also the possibility that he has the inside knowledge on the music scene and may know something we don't.
And this.
Methinks that waiting much longer to release it would be a big mistake, though. He wasted a few great opportunities to drop this album with all the va-va-voom it deserved: the first "world" tour circa 2011, post-Madison Square Garden in 2014, post-Wembley in 2017 and around the We Are X hype last year. Right now the band is not very active and have no major scheduled performances in Japan or in the West, so I agree that there's a lack of momentum. But don't sit on that album for another ten years, Yoshiki, I'm afraid there won't be many of us around by then.
Please tell me 'fucking Hyde' is a new action figure? It sounds like something I would be interested in! ;D ;)
Can confirm, it's an action figure. Five inches tall, comes with a glitter and bodypaint kit so you can style it as you like. ;D
(http://i65.tinypic.com/29awlz8.jpg)
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1. He isnt on good terms with Toshi right now and is being coy about future X activities
2. He is waiting for the band to have more momentum (a USA tour or something)
3. He doesn't care
This.
I think when Yoshiki says it's not the right time to release the album I think deep down that may mean that its not the right time for him to release the album, as in some ways I think it has become a crutch that keeps him going. I think he knows that this is going to be the last album and I don't think he is ready to let go of that just yet
(...)
There is also the possibility that he has the inside knowledge on the music scene and may know something we don't.
And this.
Methinks that waiting much longer to release it would be a big mistake, though. He wasted a few great opportunities to drop this album with all the va-va-voom it deserved: the first "world" tour circa 2011, post-Madison Square Garden in 2014, post-Wembley in 2017 and around the We Are X hype last year. Right now the band is not very active and have no major scheduled performances in Japan or in the West, so I agree that there's a lack of momentum. But don't sit on that album for another ten years, Yoshiki, I'm afraid there won't be many of us around by then.
Please tell me 'fucking Hyde' is a new action figure? It sounds like something I would be interested in! ;D ;)
Can confirm, it's an action figure. Five inches tall, comes with a glitter and bodypaint kit so you can style it as you like. ;D
(http://i65.tinypic.com/29awlz8.jpg)
The "momentum" would be 2016. The release of "We are X" and the Wembley concert he was announcing for an year, which would be exactly THE concert to release the new album.
Then the concert was cancelled due to Pata illness. Postponed it to an year later, and, guess what, the album which would be released on the first date wasn't "ready yet".
There is no more excuses for this delay. The band isn't active anymore, their last performances were far from their best, Toshi and Yoshiki are noticeably not in good terms.
This album may never come. So does a new tour or whatever.
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While I agree there aren’t any excuses any more, I thought the last performance was good and sadly Pata is the one that can’t really play well anymore. Yoshiki and Toshi seemed fine to me, nothing happened in that concert or the other 2 that said they weren’t on good terms. People that went to the other 2 concerts actually said they were worried about their relationship but after the concert they were relieved because they seemed very friendly.
Also, during Yoshiki’s last concert, after Hyde sang and left the stage he praised Toshi saying how he met him when he was 4 so he was lucky to always have an amazing vocalist with him.
But anyway, I’m done with the excuses. It’s always poor Yoshiki, he must be depressed blabla. No. That doesn’t excuse anything, there is a limit. Why on earth did he have to say what he just said on that interview? He could’ve kept quiet instead but he consciously chooses to say all this shit. Everyone talks about Yoshiki but what about Toshi? He also grieved for hide and Taiji, he went through hell and back for 12 years, he has his own physical problems and this year he released 2 albums, 2 DVDs, a couple of other songs, music videos, etc.
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The "momentum" would be 2016. The release of "We are X" and the Wembley concert he was announcing for an year, which would be exactly THE concert to release the new album.
Agree. I cannot quite comprehend how they missed the boat back then. Perhaps the damn thing *really* wasn't ready or maybe there was stuff happening that our fan minds cannot even fanthom. Either way, it's a bloody shame. Unless they throw a stellar world tour in the coming years, I don't see how they'll be able to replicate the 2017 hype.
There is no more excuses for this delay. The band isn't active anymore, their last performances were far from their best, Toshi and Yoshiki are noticeably not in good terms.
Disagree. I thought their last performances were pretty good for dudes their age (hit me up when I'm 50, I doubt I'll be in the mood to throw a speed metal concert for 100 000 people). And as far as I know, there's no actual evidence that they're on bad terms, just that Toshi was mildly bummed about the Red Swan thing. After all this time, can they really get on each other's nerves? They probably know each other's antics far too bloddy well by now. ;D
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I think he does not release it simply because he's scared. Fear that it will not be the best album ever.
The great Legacy Band X Japan, with the wonderful Yoshiki released a mediocre album? After all the years of production? Impossible! It has to be great. So do not publish an album as one, which is not the best album in the world.
But those are just my 2 cents
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Hyde doll? Where?????????????????? ;D :P
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I think he does not release it simply because he's scared. Fear that it will not be the best album ever.
The great Legacy Band X Japan, with the wonderful Yoshiki released a mediocre album? After all the years of production? Impossible! It has to be great. So do not publish an album as one, which is not the best album in the world.
But those are just my 2 cents
I agree, though it doesn't make much sense considering we already know a huge part (if not the entirety) of the album ; and when you make fans long for more than a decade, you have to know you won't get the "that the best album ever" feedbacks you want to hear.
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OH MY DAHLIA!! I'm DYING!!! X"DDDDDDDDDDDD
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OH MY DAHLIA!! I'm DYING!!! X"DDDDDDDDDDDD
Lol i made this.
Well, there’re some songs we don’t know. Like the complete version of Kiss The Sky, Rockstar and a couple of more songs
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Lmao thats hilarious
I dont think it will suck. I just dont think it will be worth a decade long wait. Nothing is, though.
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I don't even care if it sucks at this point. I just want a damn album.
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I don't even care if it sucks at this point. I just want a damn album.
Amen to that.
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I don't even care if it sucks at this point. I just want a damn album.
I have to agree.
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While I agree there aren’t any excuses any more, I thought the last performance was good and sadly Pata is the one that can’t really play well anymore.
I don't even say the last performances were bad. They were good. But they were just "technically" good.
Somehow the "feeling" was different.
And the Makuhari Messe concerts were still forcing too much hide. Apart from Drain, which should leave the setlist as Toshi clearly can't sing it since the reunion, there were the Hurry Go Round and the worst part, hide voice recordings on Week End. Not only unnecessary but those awful recordings from the Last Live with the drums leaking behind. And this recording being loudest than everything.
Yoshiki just forgot how to be a musician and just wants to exploit his drama and everything is about his past.
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I don't even care if it sucks at this point. I just want a damn album.
#metoo
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via discord
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The above gif seems much more appropriate than I thought...
Dear X Freaks here is something for you to discuss! Since our dear Sue (pt_93) keeps molesting Yoshiki on various platforms, he eventually decided to answer her about one of the most asked questions here on xfreaks.
(https://beta-static.photobucket.com/images/h131/Kasumi_stern/1/2b0b4c77-5734-4ab1-9ce7-96ccec6a1d66-original.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
Thoughts? Feelings? Let them all out. I wanna hear.
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I think the least we deserve is to know the reason for this. Seriously, so many things have been said, I just don’t think he’ll ever release it.
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Maybe he lost the key for his zip file... oh, or it was stolen from his car!
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Should have hit CTRL+S before your computer crashed, Yoshiki.
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Since the new album is completely done and it's been a couple of month, any news?
Would die to listen to Beneath the S.K.I.N. Studio Version.
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Keep dreaming sweetheart. ;D :P
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The above gif seems much more appropriate than I thought...
Dear X Freaks here is something for you to discuss! Since our dear Sue (pt_93) keeps molesting Yoshiki on various platforms, he eventually decided to answer her about one of the most asked questions here on xfreaks.
(https://beta-static.photobucket.com/images/h131/Kasumi_stern/1/2b0b4c77-5734-4ab1-9ce7-96ccec6a1d66-original.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
Thoughts? Feelings? Let them all out. I wanna hear.
According to this, never
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*throws hands up and falls out of chair*
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http://www.digitaljournal.com/entertainment/music/yoshiki-of-x-japan-talks-future-musical-inspirations-technology/article/543038?fbclid=IwAR0Mc6Ocg7iT8bvxK0UT1moJXIMyRY_lRZNiHkMKriEtCZa1u3L7KjpB_3U
Yoshiki of X Japan talks future, musical inspirations, technology
"Japanese musician and composer Yoshiki (co-founder of the metal band X Japan) chatted with Digital Journal about his plans for 2019, as well as performing at Radio City Music Hall. Yoshiki also spoke about the digital transformation of the music business.
On February 6, as Digital Journal reported, Yoshiki performed with best-selling soprano at the iconic Radio City Music Hall in New York City. "I have played Madison Square Garden with my band X Japan and I've performed concerts at Carnegie Hall as a solo classical artist, but playing my composition 'Miracle' here at Radio City Music Hall with Sarah Brightman is definitely one of my most exciting moments. I'm really thankful to Sarah," he said.
On his plans for 2019, Yoshiki said, "X Japan's album is actually completed. It took over 10 years to record, so I'm looking for the perfect timing to release it. Also, it was just announced that I'm working on the score and theme song for the new xXx 4 film starring Vin Diesel. There are other exciting projects lined up, too, but I can't really talk about them yet."
In regard to his musical inspirations, Yoshiki draws from his life experiences and his loyal fan-base. "I take my inspiration from life, from everything all around me. I also take inspiration from my fans," he explained.
On his dream collaboration choices, Yoshiki revealed that at the moment, he is working on great music with his friend, Marilyn Manson."
Ugggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh aaaaaaaaaaaaaah. well.
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"I have played Madison Square Garden with my band X Japan and I've performed concerts at Carnegie Hall as a solo classical artist, but playing my composition 'Miracle' here at Radio City Music Hall with Sarah Brightman is definitely one of my most exciting moments. I'm really thankful to Sarah," he said.
Says it all. X Japan was nothing to him compared to Sarah Brightman. SMH @ Yoshiki. Fuck off!
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On his dream collaboration choices, Yoshiki revealed that at the moment, he is working on great music with his friend, Marilyn Manson."
This is also quite sad because I bet we're gonna see Yoshiki with MM sooner than we'll see anything X related...
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On his dream collaboration choices, Yoshiki revealed that at the moment, he is working on great music with his friend, Marilyn Manson."
This is also quite sad because I bet we're gonna see Yoshiki with MM sooner than we'll see anything X related...
Sorry to disappoint anyone but I can't stand MM! >:(
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This is also quite sad because I bet we're gonna see Yoshiki with MM sooner than we'll see anything X related...
Sorry to disappoint anyone but I can't stand MM! >:(
That's alright! I am also unhappy to hear these things from Yoshiki... new stuff with MM (what about X?), Sarah Brightman is his new fav (what about X?)... and so on. I am NOT going to read the full interview. That was enough already.
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*Waits patiently for Returner to post a full page reply about how we're not being fair to Yoshiki*
Wake up, apologists. We've just heard it straight from the horses mouth. X Japan is secondary to Yoshiki now. We've known this for a long while but now we have proof. The part that makes me laugh is that he wants to wait for "the right time" to release the album? I'm sorry, what? Is there supposed to be like a particular month where X Japan just magically becomes relevant again? Has Yoshiki completely lost it? You put an album out and tour with it simultaneously. Yoshiki's forgotten what it means to be a true artist and he's contradicting himself. It's like he's "waiting" for a perfect storm of things to happen so that the album is as much of a hit as possible. REAL artists don't care what other people think so much so that they will employ such a convoluted mind set.
AS I SAID A LITTLE WHILE AGO. RIP X JAPAN.
Thanks.
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Yup, exactly right, Feudal. Besides, some people act like Yoshiki is the only that ever had problems, everyone does but they still have to work and that's not an excuse for all the lies and bait. Yoshiki shared this article on Facebook and 80% of the comments are people upset, disappointed or just saying they gave up, there're a couple of Yoshiki's fangirls saying that if we don't support 100% we are not real fans and he doesn't owe us explanations, etc. and I want to say some of the points that were made by me and the other 100 people. I mean, it's ridiculous that people actually say stuff like "It takes 9 months to make a baby, so it can take 9 years to make an album".
Sorry for the long ass post but I thought some of these were interesting, proved a point, etc.
- i meant no disrespect, this is the first time in ever that i replied to a post on Yoshiki's page. But telling people to reconsider their words before they speak and insulting them in the next sentence isnt practising what you preach. We've all been waiting for ages, but his tactic of baiting and baiting without giving is a bad one. At a certain point your public will get tired, restless and walk away. That is both known in marketing and psychology. It's how human nature works and won't lead to the intended result if practiced for too long. There are people voicing that fear and it might not be done in the best manner, but it is their right to do so, blocking them would create a negative ripple in a public that is already feeling negatively influenced by the marketing practiced towards them.
Best actions could be; releasing something new (music), keeping quiet about it for a while or giving the slightest bit of transparency about the situation to try and regain faith and respect from your audience. Then again I also know that Japanese culture works different than ours and that you don't speak out against someone you look up to and remain quiet about your opinions if they might influence the harmony of others in the public negatively. However as an international artist, your fans from different countries might have different ways resulting in what we now witness.
And this also show the effect people might have on each other as a group and on Yoshiki as a person. This effect devastates me, i love Yoshiki's work and would love to hear more, but fans being torn between complaining/vocalizing and the ones telling them down because of it is ruining it all for some fans. I just want to be the one in the middle, enjoying the music, Yoshiki's posts and interaction between the fans. But the fans are devided, which is not what I would like it to be. Complaining (within measure) is allowed. Measure is decided by Yoshiki. But bashing on the people who complain is ruining things further and should be punished just as hard.
- It’s been 20 years since an album of new music was released and 10 of that it has been finished and collecting dust. Playing MSG was a great time to have released it. Playing Wembley would have been a great time to release. The documentary film release would have been a great time too.
- I just read last night that Def Leppard took 3 years to record Hysteria, which sold more than 25 millions worldwide. A few months in, the drummer, Rick Allen, had an accident and lost his whole left arm and broke his right should pretty badly, but he learned to play again with one arm and came back and did a very long tour. They released Adrenalize 5 years later, also a very succesful album but during the recording, guitarist Steve Clark died. I'm not comparing trying to say something is worse or whatever, but it has to stop. There are no excuses anymore, recording X Japan for 10+ years, Violet UK for almost 20, it doesn't take 10 years to record a good album, it's delusional to say so.
- it's also disrespectful of yoshiki to not release the album without a valid reason. the perfect moment? is he waiting for an angel choir or Sth? he is dishonest with us. everyone will understand if the album is not ready for whatever reason. being a fan does not mean to tolerate everything. in the end even yoshiki is just a human being and not some form of god. I respect that. but I do not respect to be fooled by him.
Aside from this, many people are just saying they don't believe him or call him a liar. What is the "best time"? Like someone pointed out, it's past time, the only thing he's doing now is losing fans.
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It really sucks this band is just limping along now. 2010-2011 had so much potential
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He didn't say X Japan was secondary or that he liked playing with Sarah Brightman better than playing MSG with his own band. He just said it was one of his most exciting moments, among others. And he probably didn't even say this himself, that kind of line is usually prepared by his PR people and signed under his name, people sometimes don't even know they've been quoted in the press saying stuff like that.
Actually, this is a troll reply. I know just as well as you do that the guy is far more interested in getting botox with his new BFFs Sarah Brightman and Marilyn Manson than he is in making music with X.
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Oh, and Hyde. Getting botox with Hyde is quite an experience too.
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What does Hyde have to do with this and Botox? ???
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Not much, it's just a joke. 8)
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Not much, it's just a joke. 8)
Hahahaa, thank goodness. Hyde better stay away from that stuff. The way his face is shaped as it is, I think it would be a disaster if he used Botox. I think a person could tell in a heartbeat. Then he's ruined forever.
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Sorry to disappoint you, but Hyde used Botox a lot lately.
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Sorry to disappoint you, but Hyde used Botox a lot lately.
Yea, you are disappointing me, A LOT! :-\
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Sorry to disappoint you, but Hyde used Botox a lot lately.
Yea, you are disappointing me, A LOT! :-\
I'm sorry :'(
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Hummm.... so ... no new info about X Japan's album. In one side I'm happy that this mighty leader of X seems having great carreer as composer, celebrity, etc... :D but in other side... whataboutXwhataboutXwhataboutXwhataboutX...? :( This makes me sad at same time :'(
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(https://i.imgur.com/U1Fjicm.jpg)
it seems we have to wait until 2020
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Lol I knew it. X Japan MUST do the theme song, if not, Yoshiki is really fucking dumb
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Boooo, am I the only one who thinks it would be really lame to drop the album along with the XXX4 thing? I mean, associating your epic band's first album in 357+ years with a freaking Vin Diesel film?
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#metoo
He could use the XXX song for the next album. The second one in 2X years.
It seems like he just focuses on one album and does not expect to produce a new X Japan album afterwards.... Or am I wrong?
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If the album is done and electro formatted, then he can't insert another song on it unless he has everything cut and pressed, again. Right? I think it's lame, too. And the new XXX song won't "go" with the older material, anyway. Lame, lame, lame!
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Agreeeeed! Lameeeeeeeee!
And yes... Yoshiki doesn't seem to be planning any further releases after "the new album" anyway. Maybe the only thing that will follow is X Japans retirement.
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Maybe the only thing that will follow is X Japans retirement.
:-X
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There is a zero percent chance there will be another X Japan album. We will bw lucky to get this one
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There is a zero percent chance there will be another X Japan album. We will bw lucky to get this one
True, I would actually be surprised if they'd ever tour overseas again.
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I had an interesting train of thought recently that I wanted to share. (oh yes, Feudal is sharing something that ISN'T Yoshiki hate, hell must be freezing over!)
Yoshiki often seems to subtly make references to waiting for a "right" time to release the album and it's made me think about their first attempt back in the early 90s through to today and how Yoshiki may be waiting for something that will never come.
In 1992, Yoshiki and "X" held a press conference in NYC announcing not only Heath as bass but their switch from Sony to Atlantic Records; a promising sign for the band....or too late? What happened in the USA less than 1 year before this press conference?
Nirvana's Nevermind.
Kurt Cobain, in less than a year, issued a death sentence to hair metal in the West and what exactly did X Japan look like in the early 90s? Worst. Timing. Ever. Any deal was dead before it even started.
I'm a huge Nirvana fan so it's interesting to think about this as I hold both of these bands in such a high regard. Let's fast forward a bit to today, what's the music landscape like right now on the radio? Drake, Cardi B, Post Malone, Ariana Grande. Where's the rock? Rock is no longer mainstream. Fine, music doesn't have to be mainstream to be good....but tell that to Yoshiki. I truly think he's waiting for some catalyst in the USA for him to light on fire with his new album....it may never come. It goes back to my thoughts about a true artist not caring about what others think. No revolutionary band in history, whether it's The Beatles to Nirvana, cared about appealing to what WAS popular. THEY defined what was to become popular.
Yoshiki needs to decide this for himself and accept that X Japan will either remain a legacy band OR blaze new territory and possibly die trying. The rest is history. On a side note about Nirvana, I would love to ask Yoshiki or see him being asked in an interview what his thoughts are on the band and also Kurt Cobain. He must have some opinion on such a prolific artist who was at his peak when they were trying to enter the US market. In all of the interviews I've read/watched, he's talked about a lot of bands and artists but never once Nirvana. I wonder why? Could there be a bad taste left in his mouth that still lives on today?
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This is a very interesting topic. I don't know the first thing about Western band history but I remember that X Japan podcast guys talked about Nirvana briefly, in Jealousy episode IIRC.
You are right. I've never heard or read about Yoshiki talking about Nirvana - both in English and Japanese media.
Well, when fans talk about Yoshiki, they often say that Yoshiki is trapped in the past - his father's suicide, hide's death, X Japan's disbandment and so on...
But I pay more attention to what he has never talked about. e.g. AOL album's not releasing in the West or failure in releasing DAHLIA album English version. I've read and watched a lot of his interviews in Japanese. He promoted Art of Life album in Japanese variety shows and magazines. Even in an interview done in 1993, he said AOL album would be released in Europe, and said he and his management company were considering about American market at that time. But it was not released in the West. Since then, he's never talked about the topic.
As a psuedo psychiatrist, I believe his real trauma is the failure in entering the American music industry. His father's death, hide's death... they will still hurt him. But he's spoken openly about it thousand times. If you can say something publicly, you have overcome it somewhat. I think so.
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(oh yes, Feudal is sharing something that ISN'T Yoshiki hate, hell must be freezing over!)
HIGH FIVE MAN! 8)
That was actually a really interesting theory. I think it's plausible, but for some reason I can't help but think it's a little far-fetched. Grunge and speed metal are a bit like oil and water, they just don't mix. Sure thing, Cobain was like a flash of lighning that came in through the front door and left nothing standing in his wake. And like you pointed out so well, the Cobain craze ended up pushing glam/hair rock to the background in terms of mainstream interest. I still think they're two very different things, though. Why hasn't Yoshiki ever mentioned Cobain? Same reason why he doesn't mention Rhianna or Jay Z or whatever. He mostly comments on acts that were somehow associated with the hair/glam metal movement, i.e. David Bowie, Kiss, Manson, etc. or classic performers. And then he poses with random people on Instagram for PR purposes.
I'd love to know what he thinks of the grunge movement, tho. And it's interesting that you like it, because most metal fans I know despise Nirvana with a passion. Personally, I don't have a solid opinion about their music. I find Cobain quite fascinating, but he died to young to have accomplished anything groundbreaking. I often feel that way about artists that passed before they could reach maturity, Hide included.
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I'd love to know what he thinks of the grunge movement, tho. And it's interesting that you like it, because most metal fans I know despise Nirvana with a passion.
Really? Why? I think Nirvana is ok. I had many posters of them in my room while living at my parents. Today I don't listen to them anymore 'cause... well... I know all their music ;D
But I started to learn the electric guitar with Nirvana and RATM, because their riffs are very easy to learn. ^^ So they always have a special placve in my heart :P
Oh I just remember, I bought the score book of the unplugged concert just a few month ago.
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But Skrillex is not metal, afaik ;D
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Sorry to disappoint you, but Hyde used Botox a lot lately.
Hey nb, :P
How do you know this? I see no evidence of botox on his face at all. He looks older, aging, has wrinkles. Sometimes they don't show up because of so much makeup but they are there and face shape is identical to younger days. Poof please! :P :D
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Yoshiki is teasing us with the term "new album" and the word "soon" again: https://twitter.com/YoshikiOfficial/status/1263470925271437312?s=19
He must be joking, right?
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Maybe he's talking about the remastered Dahlia since it has the hashtag in it?
Or he is just an a... a mean person. again.
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Another year, another ass-talking post of false hope from Yoshiki. What's next, he'll use the pandemic as an excuse for the album delay? It hurts to think he's been promising this for a decade. A decade. It hurts more to know that I obviously still care enough to be annoyed by it.
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if only dahlia why he mention "album' ,this man trully has glib tongue
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Omg... Yoshiki always likes to joke and, anyway, what can we expect from a man who said he put and egg in the microwave? (incidentally I want to say that if it is true I like him even more ;D)
It's been a long time since Yoshiki couldn’t cope with his pains; the band's aesthetics was founded on feelings of loss and redemption; possibly - after the film - Yoshiki seemed to be getting better. But the band/Yoshiki's artistic 'character' remained the same, he/they dind't found/tried other ways to go ahead without canceling the past and now it's difficult to attract the public without something really new, if not with some attempted blast...
Yet I really think the band has already achieved their goal with the World Tour, I really think it. But the tour was very based on the reference to the inspiration still emanating from hide’s memory. Then they should try to go ahead creating something based on the experience of the past to express their current feelings. And then something got stuck…
And now I ask myself what kind of obstacle prevented the band to go further?
I won’t even try to consider money/contracts affairs, I'm not a genius in these kind of things ::) and, besides, all we know are often just rumors.
I think that both Yoshiki's self-centered character and other members' disinterest in becoming famous abroad put the band's artistic evolution to the stake (in the sense that they didn't released new albums).
From the artistic point of view Yoshiki said many times that hide and Taiji had strong ambitions to make it abroad; and those forces aren't here to push the band in this direction any more. He said every time they tried to expand abroad everything fell apart at that time, perhaps because of english language's knowledge, or problems with comparison with western singers and who knows what.
Obviously the choice to nurture so strong emotional connections with people failing to keep repeated promises is really disappointing. I've been preserved from being completely discouraged because I met the band recently and never tried to attend subsequently canceled lives..., I perfectly comprehend historical fans' disappointment feelings.
I think Yoshiki started to remember Taiji so often because he knew his huge contribution to the band's initial success and the push he gave to succeed beyond the borders of Japan; plus, even if they always fought, they had been friends; but I don't think he really misses him like he misses hide.
hide played a multifactorial and multidimensional role in the band. We don’t always know every member's real contribution to every single note, but under the musical point of view obviously hide played a really great part. Yoshiki himself said he always listened to hide's point of view on every song.
Besides, hide supported and channeled Yoshiki's destructive energies, especially in p.r. relationships.
Now obviously all these aids are missing, but Yoshiki has always been intelligent and even from the very time when hide was alive has tried to develop in himself those qualities he saw in his friend who managed to magnetized them and that could be useful and stimulating for band's life and music.
Yet, after hide's depature, this was not enough to go further by themselves, something still missed.
Imho I think that hide was magnetinsing something more than musical and p.r. development. He represented some kind of innovative force that could go beyond limits converting Yoshiki's egoic self-destructive artistic feelings into a creativity based on group and interrelation. Somehow Yoshiki - master & commander of the band - could feel that his force could be not only voted to death and destruction, perhaps he felt less 'dangerous', and could see an opening in his possible pessimistic feeling of individual perception, which reverberated on band's creative environment.
The fact that hide was known as the ‘mom’ of the band could stimulate our most childish instincts as girl fans with a little tacky tastes, but his multitasking talent going from music to look to poetry tells us that this must really mean something more.
'I don't see our band as something that begins and ends. That notion is irrelevant' stated hide at 1997 X Japan last live.
X Japan created a new way of being which opened the doors to a complete creative freedom and I think hide expressed and catalyzed those emotions into a feeling of belonging to something common while maintaining their own specificity; a total freedom, without loneliness. Unfortunately hide was not a stable person; alcohol abuse, bulimic episodes and some bandmates’ talks tell us he was somehow upset, and his imprudent behavior did the rest.
The fact that alcohol had a great part in hide’s death must have been a great problem for Yoshiki, who probably accompanied hide in the first drunkenness. The friend - who had always given a chance to Yoshiki’s crazy reckless creativity of being a not too dangerous outburst - had died because of the abuse grown together… By the time Yoshiki recovered from this, luckily his talent and creativity got the better on dark mood.
But imho the feeling of belonging to something common in all bandmates wasn’t so strong any more because it was not magnetized and grown by hide’s presence, and this, under a creative point of view, didn’t support the band with the needed fuel.
There is something that Yoshiki said not a long time ago when he was a guest on a famous radio show after being abroad for one and a half year promoting the film, something that made me think; he told that he would like to ask people who think of X Japan only as a band that hasn’t released an album in 20 years something like “Do you know what kind of band this is?”; which means to me ‘Do you know what we had and what we really lost?’ (but it could be just a forcing…, I don’t know...)
Anyway guys, it’s been a while… and I’m glad I wrote something after so much time; we are in the middle of a pandemic and I wish you all the best, hope you are going on with your lives being prudent but without too much fear, I wish you to continue to be proud and crazy (like Toshi invited fans to be in early 90s lives) and fight with the same passion about our beloved X Japan 😉
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how are Yoshiki's relationships with the other band members? That alone could give some insight if this "news" has a bit of truth to it. Obviously he won't release a new album if Toshi, Pata, Sugizo and Heath are either busy or in bad terms with him
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how are Yoshiki's relationships with the other band members? That alone could give some insight if this "news" has a bit of truth to it. Obviously he won't release a new album if Toshi, Pata, Sugizo and Heath are either busy or in bad terms with him
So they're in good terms with him,at least with both Pata & Heath appeared in his channel.
Sugizo busy with his LS & solo projects
I don't even understand what happened with Toshl.
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I don't even understand what happened with Toshl.
[This is just my opinion/idea/thoughts]
Maybe he is sick of waiting all the time. I mean he is waiting for the album for 10 years too. And since everything is dedicated to Yoshiki and Yoshiki only owns all the rights of X nowadays Toshi just thought "Well, I'm bankrupt (after HoH) and I have to earn money. So I have to start working!" And then he started with his solo works.
And maybe the schedule doesn't fit around Yoshikis schedule. Toshi is 100x more busy than PATA or Heath. At least that is what I think because PATA "only" has Ra:IN and HEATH? Idk. He was into DeeJaying a couple of years ago. I have no idea what he is up to since Dope HEADz and Lynx are decreased.. His last album was 2009...
But there are rumors that Toshi and PATA are not in good terms. There was something at the "no audience gig" The "proof" is, that PATA is not following Toshi on Twitter... I have no idea. I just read it...
But the decision not to release the album is the decision of Yoshiki alone. He also gave the direction of the album and changed it a couple of times. For example it once was a best of X album with new recordings and lyrics all in english. Like Kurenei aka Deep Red and we also heard Rusty Nail with english lyrics a couple of times live... but yeah.. .bla bla bla jibber jabber...
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But there are rumors that Toshi and PATA are not in good terms. There was something at the "no audience gig" The "proof" is, that PATA is not following Toshi on Twitter... I have no idea. I just read it...
has anybody noticed that Pata doesn't follow any member from X on Instagram? Weird
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But there are rumors that Toshi and PATA are not in good terms. There was something at the "no audience gig" The "proof" is, that PATA is not following Toshi on Twitter... I have no idea. I just read it...
has anybody noticed that Pata doesn't follow any member from X on Instagram? Weird
Weird ?? yeah ,it's like mathematic. Pata doesnt follow others X member on ig,he doesnt follow Toshl on twitter,Yoshiki follow everybody. we dont need talk about Heath ,he out of question.
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My theory is that there is some legal stuff going on behind the curtain which prevents the album from being released.
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Yea, I agree that there must be some legal stuff tying things up. I just don't understand how they have a complete album sitting there and there doesn't appear to be any plans at this stage to release it.
Yoshiki did use the line that it wasn't the right time before, (and yes, with the pandemic, it wouldn't have been the best time), but there is definitely something more to this.
I would like to point out that we haven't even had any re-releases of material either. If it was just relationship issues, then I don't see why that would hold back re-releasing albums, compilations, etc.
I only hope that whatever it is, it is resolved so I can at least have the chance to see my favourite band live ONCE in my lifetime!
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there have been reports that Toshi didn't allow NHK to use X Japan related material which contained him...does anyone know more?
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If that’s true I fully expect 2018 was an audition for Hyde to become X’s singer