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So I finally got the courage to read the Euphoria Visual Novel.

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I'm pretty sure most here are familiar with the 2 reputations this title. That it has the most vile and extreme content you can imagine and that the story is so good that it makes the slog of getting through that content worth it. I've been terrified of looking at it for years but once I found out you could turn off the most graphic content and skip through the harsh parts I dove in and got hooked to where I'm halfway through and don't want to stop until I find all the answers. The only other stories that got me this invested that I can remember in recent memory are House Of Leaves and Toshis book. So yes it is definitely worth it but only if you know what you're getting into. The reason I bring it up here is it has one character who turns a school into a crime syndicate and can get away with murder as well as another character who starts an extra funky religion that teaches enlightenment through suffering. Now where have I heard that before? Also the game has 7 characters and X-Japan has 7 members.



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Dang, never heard of it. Do you recommend it? Is it ok to consume it without the harsh parts or did you get the feeling something was missing?


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Is it something along the lines of Doki Doki Literature club? I'm not very up to date about visual novels  :-\
however I find myself interested in such contents because I like to understand how our mind works.

sometimes I long for immortality only to get a hold of all the media I have to eagerly consume...



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tell me moar!!! :3


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tell me moar!!! :3

it's a visual novel that at first impact looks like a lighthearted school life simulator, then it unexpectedly turns into a horror game with quite disturbing remarks about mental issues. I think that it scared half of the Internet back in 2017 when it originally debuted.  :o



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oops.... it sounds and looks terrifying.... I think I will skip it.



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tell me moar!!! :3

You got it. Fair warning. I do get a bit wordy once I get started. Oh BTW. Would you happen to know if and how hide spoilers on this forum?

Is it something along the lines of Doki Doki Literature club? I'm not very up to date about visual novels  :-\
however I find myself interested in such contents because I like to understand how our mind works.

I would say the best VN comparison would be the Danganronpa or ZKill franchise while Doki Doki Literature Club is a deconstruction of VN habits, cliches and formulas this one tends to defy cliches. It could also be compared to the Battle Royal manga, Saw, The Hunger Games or even as far back as Lord Of The Flies. In short a psychological dangerous game thriller. This is the game page censored but still NSFW. https://www.mangagamer.com/r18/detail.php?goods_type=1&product_code=141 For those that are fans of this Wiki heres the TV Tropes page. https://allthetropes.org/wiki/Euphoria

I think the first, and I believe most important, things I would need to bring up regarding my views would be the warnings and who shouldn't play it. Obviously it is an H game meaning there are porn scenes in it. That's always been a hang up for me in that depending on how engaged in the story I am, the sex scenes can be a bit jarring and intrusive or just plain get old, most likely due to them being clippable for a wider release in a lot of cases. You know the cliche of "I only watch porn for the plot?" This is subjective but if I play a VN for the plot, the H scenes can feel like a pop up ad. The same can be said about the reverse. If you're only there for the anime waifus a long involved story is a blue balls test. The infamy of this game comes from the themes of non consent, pain, humiliation and um...well. I'll just only say that the CG variants that can be turned off are "gore effects" and "human waste (feces)" and nothing is lost by turning them off unless you're in to that. Hopefully I don't need to explain further but if you want me to go into more detail about the exact contents to determine if you can handle it, let me know. Now my least favorite song, for the lyrics alone, from X-Japan is Sadistic Desire and I also really dislike the Vanishing Vision album art in addition to avoiding any H manga that features sexual assault (with a very specific exception, I'll get to that later) so the reason I was scared of this is it just had a lot of "nope" for me. I also want to emphasize that anyone who suffers from past trauma or has past assault or abuse issues should not play this game at all. In short don't show this game to Toshi. Also nobody should at all watch the anime since it only focuses on the icky parts of the game.

Now that I've gone into all the horrible things that would make this game a deal breaker for me I'll go into what made me still want to play this game. First and foremost is that unravelling this mystery, to me is incredibly addictive. Also there's the general premise. I love stories with this and those like Danganronpa and the hunger games. The trapped in a place and forced to do things that someone would never voluntarily do in order to escape or survive. There is also quite a bit of Freud and a little Milgram. The story itself is about a high school boy that wakes up locked in a room with 6 girls from the same school and like Saw told to play a game where he has to choose a girl and do whatever he's told to do with them on threat of death. The caveat is that he has very sadistic interests and that, for me is where the Freud comes in because that is classic id ego superego with the moral conflict. The game also puts a lot of focus on the moral conflict. As for Milgram, that was an experiment where test subjects were told by an administrator to quiz a student and administer progressively increased electrical shocks for every wrong answer. Of course there was no real shock and the experiment was meant to test perceived authority as opposed to this game that has real consequences and an explicit authority but the methodology of a subject, an authority giving orders and someone the subject is meant to administer those orders on is still there. One thing I was intrigued by was one of the girls is established early on as the antagonist of the story and likely behind the Saw game. The part that fascinates me about this is that in this case the administrator and the student are the same person meaning it's like the person being electrocuted is the one who is ordering the subject to electrocute them. I'm only around halfway through and see hints of the story going into repressed memories and have read from reviews that there is a very emotional arc coming. It's one thing to say that I played a game that required me to turn off the poop in order to enjoy it but another to say a game I had to turn the poop off to play actually gave me the feels. Then there's that specific exception I mentioned earlier to always avoiding titles that have sexual assault as a main premise. Aside from the case of this VN where the story wins out over objectionable content, what I mean by exception is when the perpetrator is female and the victim is male then I tend to actively seek it out. For context i'm male attracted to female. This title so far has quite a bit of that and that was the tipping point where I decided to play the game.

I will admit that despite turning off what I don't want to see that still doesn't remove the scenes but just alters out the things in question and there's still other things that are left unchanged and unchangeable so here is what I recommend, of course with the exception of if you're into that. In the system menu there's a tab for female voices. Each character has 3 volume controls. the top one is dialogue and the other two are I think for torture and sex. Turn the other two off or all the way down. They loop constantly in their respective scenes. To me they're all high pitched, shrill and make my ears bleed. For the CG events there 2 options when faced with something you don't want to see. The text box has a skip button so what you do is go to the system menu and make sure it's set to skip all and not skip previously read text. The issue with that is if you're like me and always want to make sure you didn't miss any plot specific text you have to open the log to read through it and if you want it to stop skipping automatically during the story when it get's to unread text you have to remember to adjust the settings constantly. What I do is if something on the screen is particularly unpleasant I just focus on the text box and read through it quickly until I get past it although I generally have a strong stomach and am a bit jaded. Here's my recommended order of completion based on the route with the least amount of story to the most as well as their corresponding X-Japan members for fun since I'm here.

First choose more than one girl for each of the corresponding 5 turns.
Second choose Rika. I'l put Hide here. Toshi would also work.
Third choose Natsuki. Sugizo.
Fourth choose Renne. Heath.
Fifth choose Nemu. Yoshiki.
Last is Kanaie who is only playable after Nemu. Taiji.
Toshi for the main character and Pata for the one that died at the beginning.

Before I forget. The music. This is the theme to the game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm1k_Q8jX1k

This is the theme to the anime adaptation. Most likely the only thing good about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KyIFlYFgm4



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As an update, I got to some of the sections of infamy and so far the images aren't that bad when altered in game but the meticulously and vividly detailed text (Hurrrggghh) kind of got to me. The best litmus test would be to ask if you're okay with watching variations on the Dir En Grey, Obscure music video over and over. I myself still find the game worth playing but can't exactly recommend it. Would anyone like a Clif Notes summary of the story with most of the extreme parts removed?