Ok I'll try to write a meaningful post for once, please also read this. I don't want anyone to leave this forum and I don't mean to hurt/offend anyone here. So yea, please read...
---i mean fuck!Toshi and Yoshiki were not the only members!i mean for christ sake!yeah i love hide,whats the problem?i love him more than everybody else on this band,and thats my personal opinion.i love Yoshiki as well.but Toshi,no,i dont.and thats also sth personal.and i dont want to see people get hurt.and there are some people who agree with me.not many,maybe 2 or 3.....
No one has EVER said anything about not loving hide, I'm sure PN loves hide almost as much as she loves Toshi, she just brought out her thoughts about hide's inner world (never claiming anything to be pure truth). I love Toshi and I love hide, no matter what anyone says. I thought hide was an angel, once, now PN has changed my opinions and made me look from a different possible angle. I'm not saying she is 100% right but I'm just facig the facts that it might be so. But even if it would be 100% true I'll still love hide, no less (as I'm sure PN does also).
P.S6 Sander,please cancel my account.thanks...
Only Viagra-sellers get their accounts canceled.
(You are not one of them... I hope
)
P.S7 bye everybody,i really wish i can still talk with some of you<3
I hope you will... In this forum, once you come back (which I hope you WILL do eventually, sooner or later, tho it's better sooner
). We'll all be waiting
I don’t mean that I want that song for only hide. It’s really not. Even if Yoshiki said that the song is for Toshi. Then it’s ok. I don’t place hide at the top in everything. But the thing is, it’s said very clear already, it’s for hide.
Who cares! If you do and you have an opinion on it and someone tries to change your opinion then absorb all the facts that he/she feeds you to change your mind, analyze them and then decide for yourself, what you think and don't care for a gram what others think!
I admit it, as someone who’s been living in Japan for a long time and lived the same day with X, you (PanthereNoire) have a lot more knowledge and information about X more than us, the new generation of X fans. But it doesn’t mean you can say anything what’s on your mind which is horrible.
It's called expressing your opinion, even if it's horrible... Life IS horrible and people must face it head held up high. As I said before, absorb the facts, analyze and decide for yourself. If you blindly follow your own road without even looking at other roads (I was like that some time ago, I must admit) then, sorry but you are a blind fool. Now I'm not saying that you, Yoshide, are a fool, but I'm just trying to say that you should try to look at things from a different angle sometimes.[/quote]
I often posted questions before which you’ve never answered or replied. And I don’t understand why you said there are many things you can’t say to the public, but you started all of your words. You’ve started then you’ve to finish it.
I admit PN has tendency to sometimes forget some stuff (translating my name?
), but as she gets alot of questions and such AND she works in a place where she must be ready 24/7 (mostly) and work almost that much I totally understand her. Sometimes you just gotta give her a friendly reminder
If you said something bad about their songs, about how bad they played their instrument, ok. I try to understand it. And I know I have to respect it. But if you talk about someone’s personal life? No, No, No. everything you said is nothing, bullshit. You never touched them in real life. You’re just a fan.
You are just a fan also. And correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't remember PN claiming all her words to be the truth. They are just theories. They may be truth, or may not. Sadly, we'll probably never know. But they are the possibilities. And nowadays it's nothing special really to speculate over celebertie's personal lives. Just don't think that everything must be true, and don't claim it to be.
Do I have to say that I know some people who knew X? (I am thinking will PanthereNoire ask me to prove it?) I know several people who know X. and I bet you’ll be surprised if you guys know what their relationships. Will be shocked I think. Few days ago, I told her about this forum. And I told her about everything PanthereNoire had said. Then she said to me, “She is a liar” and just like what’s in my mind she said to me “what does she see on Tv?” she even asked me, “Do I have to indict this forum to Yoshiki?” yeah, I thought I wanted it to. I don’t want PanthereNoire keeps saying such things. But no! I still see and respect Hypno as the owner of this forum. I couldn’t do that to Hypno.
How can one lie if he/she doesn't claim what she says is truth? Again I see it all as theories that one needs to analyze for him-/herself. In fact if I remember correctly PN stated it her thread about possibilities of hide's suicide that it's only a theory in both
bold and
red!
I’m signing out of this forum forever.
Again I hope it's not true and you'll return. And I also think that we'll all be waiting
Every time I want to check this forum, I feel uncomfortable. This forum is just like a hell. And I’m sick about all of this. Before the dispute between me and PanthereNoire has blown like this. I told my friend about this forum. And he said that I shouldn’t have joined such a forum like this. And yeah, I thought so, felt unhappy in this forum. But saw every post from PanthereNoire making me unwilling to stay away from this forum. I really don’t want PanthereNoire saying something even worse about them. Beside I’ve already fallen in love to this forum.
But right now? No. I can’t hold it anymore. I have to quit from this forum. Because it’s really making my days become so bad. When I couldn’t log in this forum for a while, I was a bit annoyed and missed this forum. But I found it, that I was happy not to read all PanthereNoire posts. I passed my days with smile. If I continue joining this forum, I am really sure the dispute and quarrel will happen again. Maybe other x-freaks member can’t disregard about that. But me? I can’t. I can’t ignore something like this and act like there’s nothing happened.
I'm sorry that you have to go, but if you think it's for your own best, then do so. Just come back someday
Hypno, you may delete my account here, e..no, not may but you have to delete my account. Please do it.
Sorry, again, I can't do that. I won't.
Tho I have to admit that they are somewhat right about PN- she somewhat lacks patience and can also sound mean sometimes towards others (tho I also blame the internet- you can only see the txt and not the person's facial expressions, tone, emotions and such), even if she tries not to...
I see the main problem of these quarrels the difference in blood! Yup, thats right, blood. CB lives in Greece, Yoshide in Indonesia. Both countries have so-called "hot blooded" people- they are more sensitive about things, they express their emotions more freely, they get into fights more easilly but make up more easilly also. They also are usually harder to get to think otherwise from what they have thought before (the main aspect I see here). Darkcat21 had some quarrels with PN (they seem to be on good terms atm luckyly
I hope they will stay that way :evil: - PS: I allow no comments on that praticular topic here! ). DC21 lives in Spain- another "hot blood" country. PN, as I have understood, is German by birth- I'd call that "cold blood" country. The more north, the colder we get. Not cold as in a bad way, but it's kinda the opposite of the "hot blood" type. They are calmer, not so freely expressing their emotions, they are usually not that hot headed, they think about things more and often don't say anything unless they know for certain that they have something important to say. Tho as PN has lived in Japan for almost 20 years she is abit mixed type.
And more examples from the "cold blooded" section- I have never seen ferret (Estonian-Austrian), xScQ (Dutch, I think), the gang from Finland (Hurley, Orkrist and countless of others
) get really angry about something or have fierce arguments over things...
And if you are talking with someone, you gotta take in count where he/she is from and build your answers so that he/she will fully understand you and you won't hurt him/her in any way. And that's my forumula for a peaceful forum
Ok this is getting long and I must go to sleep. Hope you had the time to read all this, and I hope that you both will return, or not go away at all. We can all live in peace and harmony if we want to
-Hypno
