Yoshiki, king of J-rock

y0shisgrl · **on:** July 31, 2009, 02:47:32 PM

yoshiki has done so much for the j-rock and visual kei movement. X is basically the band that started it all.
Every music genre has a king. and i think yoshiki should be king of j-rock like michael was the king of pop!
WHO AGREES !?

may x be with u...

Yu~Kun · **Reply #1 on:** July 31, 2009, 03:35:08 PM

that gave me the disturbing image of Yoshiki dancing like Jackson.......XDDDDDDDDD

y0shisgrl · **Reply #2 on:** July 31, 2009, 03:36:41 PM

lmao. wow. thanx for that image. it made my day!!!!!!!!!!!

Beauty/Broken · **Reply #3 on:** July 31, 2009, 03:53:45 PM

He's certainly influential, in that he's been a member and majority song writer for one of the largest Japanese bands in history and that his record label gave success to a generation of bands, some of whom became nearly as big, if not bigger, than his own band.

He's also certainly respected, as a musician via his classical work and collaberations (London Philharmonic Orchestra, World Expo Theme, Anniversary Concerto for the Japanese Emperor) and also as a producer for both his own music and that of others.

But do these really qaulify him as the king of Jrock on the whole?

Respected? Yes. Influential? Yes. King? No.

y0shisgrl · **Reply #4 on:** July 31, 2009, 04:01:36 PM

but who else is more qualified for the title of king?
i have never known another j-rocker whose done what he does or risks their health as much as he does everytime he goes on stage.
lol. mayb he should be the prince? jk

Tordek42 · **Reply #5 on:** July 31, 2009, 04:34:28 PM

No I don't think so. Whether or not someone risks their health doesn't really decide whether or not they are kings of a genre. Sure he's been influential and is highly respected, but I feel that someone more like Tomoyasu Hotei would be better suited for that title. He really defined the genre of Jrock, and "Battle Without Honour or Humanity" was the first japanese song to really get worldwide coverage, so he may have done more for the genre than Yoshiki.

just my opinion though

ElefeX · **Reply #6 on:** July 31, 2009, 04:56:43 PM

I really admire Yoshiki and I do think he is one of the most important and influential figures; his work with X, his classical work, Extasy Records and his work as a producer are all outstanding and are worthy of recognition.

However, I don’t know about calling him the King - I for one am certainly not qualified to give anyone that title and I think there are a number of people/groups that are important and influential; therefore it is very difficult to narrow it down to just one man. Just because Yoshiki might be my favourite, does not necessarily mean he deserves the title of King, (princess maybe

)!!

AsukaMiyu · **Reply #7 on:** July 31, 2009, 05:31:48 PM

Quote from: Ami on July 31, 2009, 04:48:55 PM

And Yoshiki's title will ALWAYS be princess to me.
Nuff said.

"Yoshiki, princess of J-Rock" then?

MIHO · **Reply #8 on:** July 31, 2009, 05:56:59 PM

Quote from: Ami on July 31, 2009, 04:48:55 PM

And Yoshiki's title will ALWAYS be princess to me.
Nuff said.

HAHAHA I THOUGHT THE SAME

HarZy · **Reply #9 on:** July 31, 2009, 07:43:49 PM

Somebody hasn't read the Enough with the word "Jrock"! thread..
And no, X didn't "start it all". There were lots of bands similar to X back in the days and many(?) of them started before X did.
Sorry for being a total asshole, but I just had to whine about this.

roseofpain84 · **Reply #10 on:** July 31, 2009, 08:44:11 PM

Quote from: HarZy on July 31, 2009, 07:43:49 PM

Somebody hasn't read the Enough with the word "Jrock"! thread..
And no, X didn't "start it all". There were lots of bands similar to X back in the days and many(?) of them started before X did.
Sorry for being a total asshole, but I just had to whine about this.

I think this topic suggested that he has had a big influence in the scene more than 'he started everything'....but maybe that's how I understood it.

Anyway, personally, I don't know if he deserves that title or not but then again....I can't even think of anyone else who does deserve it. Maybe no one does. And to be honest, I always thought those titles were a bit ermm....silly..?

y0shisgrl · **Reply #11 on:** July 31, 2009, 08:53:19 PM

roseofpain84 gets wat i mean. i dont mean that he started it, i just think that he had the most influence,,
@Harzy...ur not being an asshole, i respect your opinion, thanx.

Eos · **Reply #12 on:** July 31, 2009, 11:04:24 PM

Errrr I wouldn't say he's the King for sure the Princess there are quite a few inspirational and respected artist out there so not one really deserves to have this title they all contributed to make JRock (sorry I can't stand that word either just not sure what else to label it currently) as diverse and wonderful as it is today!

xjokerx · **Reply #13 on:** August 01, 2009, 02:02:18 AM

Quote from: Beauty/Broken on July 31, 2009, 03:53:45 PM

He's certainly influential, in that he's been a member and majority song writer for one of the largest Japanese bands in history and that his record label gave success to a generation of bands, some of whom became nearly as big, if not bigger, than his own band.

He's also certainly respected, as a musician via his classical work and collaberations (London Philharmonic Orchestra, World Expo Theme, Anniversary Concerto for the Japanese Emperor) and also as a producer for both his own music and that of others.

But do these really qaulify him as the king of Jrock on the whole?

Respected? Yes. Influential? Yes. King? No.

Quote from: Tordek42 on July 31, 2009, 04:34:28 PM

No I don't think so. Whether or not someone risks their health doesn't really decide whether or not they are kings of a genre. Sure he's been influential and is highly respected, but I feel that someone more like Tomoyasu Hotei would be better suited for that title. He really defined the genre of Jrock, and "Battle Without Honour or Humanity" was the first japanese song to really get worldwide coverage, so he may have done more for the genre than Yoshiki.

just my opinion though

Quote from: Ami on July 31, 2009, 04:48:55 PM

Meh no.
Jrock is waaaay to diverse imo to be considered one genre...
And Yoshiki's title will ALWAYS be princess to me.
Nuff said.

Quote from: HarZy on July 31, 2009, 07:43:49 PM

Somebody hasn't read the Enough with the word "Jrock"! thread..
And no, X didn't "start it all". There were lots of bands similar to X back in the days and many(?) of them started before X did.
Sorry for being a total asshole, but I just had to whine about this.

these comments had summarized all my thoughts.
also there are musicians/bands that influential in Japan only,but sadly not quite popular among non Japanese.And not every junior vk bands looked up to Yoshiki.

y0shisgrl · **Reply #14 on:** August 03, 2009, 02:12:04 PM

ok ok!! you've all convinced me!! so do we agree he's the princess of J-rock?

y0shisgrl · **Reply #15 on:** August 03, 2009, 02:16:03 PM

ok. i edited the poll and reset it so we can vote if he should be princess!!

lucy_bkk · **Reply #16 on:** August 03, 2009, 03:50:02 PM

i think Yoshiki should be a princess of jrock, definitely not a prince.

Jorge · **Reply #17 on:** August 03, 2009, 04:33:27 PM

Quote from: HarZy on July 31, 2009, 07:43:49 PM

Somebody hasn't read the Enough with the word "Jrock"! thread..
And no, X didn't "start it all". There were lots of bands similar to X back in the days and many(?) of them started before X did.
Sorry for being a total asshole, but I just had to whine about this.

Yeah it isnt being stated anywhere, and I dont think anybody thinks X started it all... Also yes, the word Jrock is utter bs.

y0shisgrl · **Reply #18 on:** August 06, 2009, 06:02:35 PM

OK !!! i'm sorry i used the word "j-rock" it's kind of a habit for me!! gosh!! And i know that X wasnt the band that started it all, their just the most influiential to a lot of people !!!! Gosh!!!
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ummm sorry for that breakdown.... *blush*

y0shisgrl · **Reply #19 on:** August 06, 2009, 06:05:22 PM

and sorry for the double post, but i have read the "enough with the word Jrock thread", but i couldnt care one way or another what its called, i still like it.

Ulquiorra · **Reply #20 on:** August 06, 2009, 10:01:51 PM

I definatly don't think Yoshiki deserves the title 'King of J-rock" because

1. He has not devoted enough of X-Japan's songs to rock/metal, and the 1994-1997 setlist and the current world tour setlist isn't in the favour of rock/metal either.

2. When I think of the 'King of Rock' I think of the singer or the lead guitarist, not a drummer/pianist.

3. Someone who can only make songs like I.V and Jade doesn't deserve the title 'King of Rock', that title deserves to go to someone who can consistantly make songs the quality of Blue Blood & Art of life for many many years, even if they change the style of their music. with the current quality of songs Yoshiki's writing now he shouldn't have the title 'king of j-rock' imo.

lucy_bkk · **Reply #21 on:** August 07, 2009, 10:49:58 AM

to # 372....i fully agree with you as above, nevertheless i always like Yoshiki. My favourable "Art of Life", Standing Sex, sadistic desire, vanishing, weekend, Japanese song...which are far better during live performane. Ballads are not rock/metal

y0shisgrl · **Reply #22 on:** August 10, 2009, 02:14:10 PM

ok so he's the princess of alot of things... lets not take this too serious guys, it's just for fun!! lol

Flippinklein · **Reply #23 on:** August 18, 2009, 09:57:48 PM

He's good and instrumental in the doors to a international jrock fanbase, but no.
Not king.

There are indeed better people out there.
sry.

Yoshiki, king of J-rock

Poll

should yoshiki be the king of J-rock?