There's no new visual because visual died in 1994.
We have a winner! Best post on this thread.
@Camicat, Matina was an indie visual record label from... uh... around the year 2000 or so. Can't remember the dates precisely
and don't really care, but it was like 3rd-generation visual, when there were ten million indie bands that all looked and sounded the same. Someone gave me a copy of a Matina concert video years ago, and upon rewatching it the other day, I couldn't get through even 20 minutes of it (and that was WITH the fast-forward button).
Baiser(especially the albums "Ash" and "Terre")
Deshabillz
Due Le Quartz(Miyavi previous band)
Je Reviens(one of Asagi's previous bands)
Syndrome(one of Kisaki's previous bands)
Mirage(first band with Kisaki)
Kuroyume
early L'arc En Ciel(the albums "Dune" and "Tierra")
early Dir en grey(the albums "Gauze","Macabre" and "Kisou")
Lareine(one of Kamijo's previous bands)
Schwarz Stein(one of Kaya's previous bands)
Noir Fleurir
Amadeus(one of Seiji's previous bands)
Fiction(Lucifer Violenoue previous band)
Eins:Vier
and of course Malice Mizer and Luna Sea
Out of all those, I'd only consider Luna Sea and Kuroyume to be oldschool visual. Maybe Eins:Vier too but I forget exactly when they started.
As for the evolution of visual discussion... first of all, I want to say: I don't mean any of this maliciously, merely as friendly debate. But the proper ancestry of visual is one of the great debates about the genre, and one I feel particularly strongly about. :twisted:
Remember that new wave/post-punk/goth is traditionally synthesizer-based music, or at least incorporates keyboards and/or synthesizers as an important part of its sound. These genres fully embraced synthesized sounds and tended to reject the standard rock'n'roll band format of having an acoustic drummer, an electric bassist, and at least one electric guitarist (with vocals by either a dedicated vocalist or a guitarist/bassist). These kinds of bands usually also rejected classic rock and metal and wanted nothing to do with those genres.
Now... remember that keyboards/synths were EXTREMELY rare among first-generation visual bands. Luna Sea's indie debut self-titled album, released on Extasy Records, even says "------ No synthesizer ------" at the end of the credits in the booklet.
The vast majority of early visual bands were set up like traditional rock/metal bands. They typically had an acoustic drummer, an electric bassist, one or two electric guitarists, and a vocalist (singing bassists/guitarists seem very rare for some reason).
The early visual musicians frequently name Western rock/metal bands and performers as among their influences. For example, Luna Sea's Sugizo says that he first got the idea of rock music + makeup from a KISS poster. The Sunset Strip metal scene is another obvious influence... playing rock music while wearing makeup/looking feminine is nothing new at all.
And in Japan itself there were a lot of metal-->visual "transitional" bands, many of whom were even more directly inspired by KISS, the Strip, etc... Seikima II, the photography in EZO's self-titled album, Kabuki Rocks, Dead End, and of course X. There were also early "visual" bands who played pretty much straightforward metal, like the visual thrash metal band Aion.
The very existence of Dead End makes it pretty clear that visual evolved from metal. These guys looked (mostly) like a Sunset Strip band-- and played dark, moody metal about lunatics and skeletons and zombies and whatever. Not surprisingly, a lot of visual bands name Dead End as an influence...
So yeah, that got a lot longer than I thought. But it's so clear to me that visual is a "corruption" of metal, not a "corruption" of new wave/goth.