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General chat / Re: RIP X JAPAN
« on: January 22, 2019, 09:03:03 PM »

Coachella is a joke of a music festival in my opinion and mostly features bad, mainstream music. It's not at all targetted to the same musical style and fan bases as X Japan is. If they wanted to gain more following he would push to participate in something like Wacken, the biggest Metal Fest in the world. Which is what X Japan is. Rock and Metal music, not Pop, Rap or similar genres like we can see in Coachella.

Wacken is with very few exceptions an "invitation only" festival and it basically sells out right away.. before the acts of the next year are announced.
Chances for X Japan fans to get tickets would be extremely low. (unless they already had Wacken tickets)
From that POV I would opt against Wacken.
If they play in Europe then I want to see them life and not only on TV   
Yes, I am selfish  ;D ;)

I agree, I would much rather see them play in an arena than in a festival  :D
I also have to agree on wacken, it sells out really quickly so it would be a quick chance, but I think there's always a few acts that are announced before the selling starts (correct me if I'm wrong).
It would still be a decent opportunity since it is streamed and there is a lot of people who watch it. But live is always a different experience. Hope X can do some European tours shows soon though ;D

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General chat / Re: RIP X JAPAN
« on: January 22, 2019, 01:36:22 PM »
My post did not lose merit from stating all of X should be in the US to make it global. While it is possible from anywhere in the world, it is easier to break any market from the ground where it is based. The United States is still the biggest music market in the world and has the most international reach over any country. Japan is 2nd, and is still dwarfed by the US by nearly twice the amount.

What Japanese band based out of Japan has done Lollapolooza, Coachella, SXSW (We are X doc), and been invited to Ozzfest? I know Japanese, Korean, German, etc bands have performed at all, but which single Japanese band has done all of them?

Not even Larc en Ciel, Luna Sea, Buck Tick, Gackt, Dir en Gray, Miyavi, or bands more poppy like Gazette or Alice 9 have done that. Those are all heavy hitting bands and they still haven't broken out on the international stage like X has.

Are you really going to tell me that success has nothing to do with Yoshiki's strategy?

Coachella is a joke of a music festival in my opinion and mostly features bad, mainstream music. It's not at all targetted to the same musical style and fan bases as X Japan is. If they wanted to gain more following he would push to participate in something like Wacken, the biggest Metal Fest in the world. Which is what X Japan is. Rock and Metal music, not Pop, Rap or similar genres like we can see in Coachella.

He's targetting the complete wrong audience in my opinion. We do not want X to be "Mainstream", to sell out his sound to basic songs and pop rock. We want X to keep innovating, to have the magic that they always had. Most americans don't care a rats ass about the type of music that X plays, and mostly the youth, they are currently very close minded from what I've seen everywhere, it's ridiculous.

I bet that if Yoshiki targeted more of Europe, that he would have a much bigger success in spreading X's music. There are tons of "alternative"(folk for example and all other kinds of metal/indie) bands that have so much success, specially in Europe and South America.

Just look at the mainstream American music, it's all face tattooed rappers with shitty music, pop celebs full of plastic surgeries who have their music made for them and drama. Do you really want X to go that way? I do not.

And you can criticize the ones you love all you want. I do know a lot of relationships that end/marriages that result in divorce from a partner's desire to pick at their spouse's wrongdoings/inability to move on from past grievances, though  ;D

This is so wrong and you should read some books about human behaviour and psychology. You need to be truthful and honest to the ones you love, no matter if they do something good, bad, evil. Whatever. If they fuck up or do something you don't like you have the right to criticise and tell them they did bad. Just like you should congratulate them when they do something good. Or else it will start to grow inside of you and that's what ends relationships. No one is perfect. There needs to be communication and honesty. It's very wrong to just shut up accept everything that the partner does, because that will lead to abusive relationships. This is what creates people full of resentment for their partners. I doubt that you will go far into a relationship with that mentality.  :(

My parents freaking divorced mostly because they lacked communication. Because they didn't point out when one or the other did something bad, they didn't criticise eachother or give tips on how to improve. This is core of a healthy relationship, like I said, or those little things pile up and then bad things happen. :-\

We love Yoshiki, we love his music BUT when he does shitty things we have every right to comment or to call him out on them. IT'S CALLED FREE SPEECH. Many people fought for it along the years, we shouldn't give it up for blind acceptance.

There was only one person here who started attacking members directly, and that was you(Even calling your opinion/post trash, It's not an attack on you, but on your opinion). All others merely commented on your opinion/posts and nothing else, yet you decided to take it personally to call us all "fuckers", "dumb", "blanket opportunists.", "bitch" and so on. Up until then everyone was conducting the discussion with respect. You should take your actions into consideration more before you start calling out others.

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General chat / Re: RIP X JAPAN
« on: January 17, 2019, 09:19:14 AM »
What the hell is going on? People pleaaaase calm down. Insults are not getting us anywhere, returner. Please all be careful of your language. I will eventually reply to everything here later, but for now please just calm down...

Then what is calling a user's post "junk"?

I'm not the one who took it to this tone. Joker did a great job of that on their own along with things said by others. I agreed to several points of yours Joker and for the sake of ruffling feathers and being dramatic you ignored all of that and decided to be tone deaf and rude. Of course. What else can I expect from X Freaks.
Someone else being a bit harsh does not give you the right to push the conversation any harder into such a direction and using bad language.  :( You are all free to respond to each others arguments, but right now that's not what's happening anymore. And it's sad.  :(  :-X

I agree with Kasumi. It's sad. People said a post was junk, that's not attacking their person, that's attacking their arguments and opinions and that's perfectly acceptable. It's good for everyone to have different views and opinions on most things. But you Returner, took it further and just started attacking their personna. Why? Are you offended that people dislike your opinion? Grow up, accept it and learn to live with it without attacking people here. Attack their opinions instead, Not. The. People. That's just sad behaviour.

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General chat / Re: RIP X JAPAN
« on: January 16, 2019, 11:32:16 AM »
I have to disagree with the following.

Let me start off by saying that Yoshiki is the one getting the majority of attention now because he is the only one committed to living in the United States, where a band HAS TO BE to be global.

X is still plenty heavy but very, very few people listen to or even MAKE thrash heavy metal anymore. And why should they? That's a bygone era. You can listen to X's lyrics and guitar riffs and tell exactly how heavy it still is. Hero is a pop rock song but would still be hard to get on the radio because the general public will recoil from mentions of suicide.

A band doesn't have to be in the USA to have global success. I think that is a delusion and disreguarding most European, South American, Canadian and Asian bands. There are many, many bands that are from places that are not the US and have made great success worldwide. If you want I can even name them. What matters is how they spread/present themselves, not where they are located. Nightwish made global success while coming from Finland for example, and they are more or less as old as X. Why? They had good management and they toured like crazy, sometimes even 2 years nonstop, touring worldwide, that brings attention and that brings fans. As long as they have good management behind them and the will to sacrifice time and comfort to spread themselves, they could be coming from anywhere in the world.

Thrash is still being made, albeit in less quantities of course, but people still consume it greatly. There are millions of people who still listen to Metallica, even more so old Metallica, Megadeth and all that. The thing is, X-Japan was never thrash oriented, they have more symphonic/speed/power elements than thrash in their songs. Bands change and tastes change, that is correct. Maybe Yoshiki wants to do Popish Rock but I don't think thats the main interest of most X fans. Most X fans are metalheads, and although most are open to every type of music, or a casual more pop oriented song, we don't want a full pop mainstream sound. Because that's everything that X wasn't. X was inovation, X was a new kind of sound, discovering something unique and beautiful.

I can't speak for others but I can say that I don't want generic sounding music. I want to listen to a song and not feel like I have listened to it before because it is so similar to a thousand other songs that are already out there. Just like X did with their earlier stuff and has done with some recent songs too. New, refreshing and not like thousands of other songs that are already out there.

The Pop rock market is satured and honestly it's mostly bullshit, with some good exceptions.

I think it's idiotic to want to pursue fame like Pop or Pop Rock artists while sacrificing the nature of their sound and of the band itself in the way. I think they can be big with their sound and the way they are currently, they don't need to "sell out". They have a specific audience, and that's fine, if they are popular amongst that target audience, than that's fine. They don't need to be known by everyone like the regular shitty pop or rap artist. I think that's ridiculous.

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General chat / Re: RIP X JAPAN
« on: January 15, 2019, 09:10:29 PM »
Yes sadly.  :( I hope they end X Japan with a big bang, like a World Tour and not just some shows in the Tokyo Dome. (And I hope by that time the album is out...)

Kasumi, you are dreaming! LOL

I think that this is entirely plausible. It's very, very rare for bands to just say "It's over" and not finish it with some big events. They only suddenly stop when a crucial member dies or there's a big fallout between the most important members. Even Ozzy keeps doing farewell tours and he just doesn't want it to end so they keep coming. I don't think Yoshiki would X die like that, he may have his flaws but X is a part of him that I highly doubt he would lowkey end it. We all love X for some reason(or for most/all of them), either for the music, the way they present themselves to the world, the members, the list goes on. Yoshiki knows this, and there's still quite a big fanbase that he wouldn't disappoint like this. Maybe he disappointed some with the whole album ordeal, but he wouldn't go this low. Just watch something like Carnegie Hall, you can see how he loves what he's doing, and that he loves the fans.

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Offtopic / Re: What are your New Years resolutions?
« on: January 10, 2019, 09:24:37 PM »
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I didn’t know you played piano! Yes, that is quite a list. I can relate on the dressing part, since a couple of years ago I started to put more variety in my clothes lol Good luck with your goals! I’m curious, is there any reason why you want to learn norwegian?


I do, but I'm still not that good at it, it's hard to find a teacher with my current schedule unfortunately  :-\ The greatest luck with your goals as well! Relating the Norwegian bit, it's just a place that fascinates me a lot, specially the history that it has behind it. I'm a sucker for history and mythology  :D Granted that there's lots of other places like that that I find interesting, but Norway is probably one that I have a higher chance of visiting. Japan for example, with my current income would be really difficult to visit, even though it's the place that at the moment I would like to visit the most. Scandinavia on the other hand is a bit more manageable.


I read the ones in bold. The Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy is one of my favourite books ever. You'll roll on the floor laughing reading that one, it's super funny! I had to read Os Maias when I was in high school in Portugal and didn't like it. I find Eça de Queiroz kind of overrated. Fernando Pessoa (and his alter-egos) are amazing though.

  • - Get a motorcycle license and then work towards car license.

YEY! Join the Moto (Guzzi) club!

That's awesome, I've heard so good about Hitchiker's, and hearing one more positive opinion on the book makes me really wanna read it next, specially because everyone says it's so hilarious  :D Indeed Fernando Pessoa was a genius in my opinon, I really enjoy his works. If I may ask, what did you think about War and Peace? It's a big book and not many people have gone through reading it so props to you! I hope I can manage it

You're a biker? That's awesome! I'm still not sure on which motorcycle I'm gonna get but I have some ideas  :D


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Offtopic / Re: What are your New Years resolutions?
« on: January 09, 2019, 10:12:16 PM »
Since this is the first time I'm posting in the forum, forgive me any mistakes please  ;D I enjoyed reading everyone's resolutions and they are also kindof motivating as well.

So here goes my resolutions for this year, hopefully I'm not too late with this post:

  • - Practice more piano. I've been slacking off for the past year, since, at the beginning of the year, I had to let go of someone toxic who I was attached to so I lost all my motivation to do most things, but it's getting better ;D
  • - Go to the ophthalmologist and get some glasses, I notice that my vision from afar is starting to get worse.
  • - Start dressing in a more 'formal' way, even if just sometimes, and not just use black hoodies with black denim jackets everyday, for most of the year.
  • - Finish my current to read books, which includes War and Peace, LOTR 50th Year Anniversary Edition, Foundation Trilogy, Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy, Hyperion, The Slow Regard Of Silent Things, 'Os Maias' and 'O Livro Do Desassossego', along a few others.
  • - Start to post more on the forum
  • - Get a motorcycle license and then work towards car license.
  • - Start to work on myself and try to be overall more happy

That's quite the list, I focused only on the biggest and most important things in my opinion.
I'm quite fascinated that a lot of you are learning new languages and that's awesome, I've thought of trying to learn either German or Norwegian and then work my way to Old Norse but I just don't have the time currently, maybe if I played less games, but that's not gonna happen soon I think  ;D

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