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The band => The Members => hide => Topic started by: Teemeah on March 17, 2018, 11:11:49 AM
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A new hide documentary film will hit theatres in Japan, titled Hurry Go Round.
https://www.barks.jp/news/?id=1000152863
I'm not entirely sure why this is needed, I don't think there is anything new this movie will tell. They will again talk to Spread Beaver and some of the American guys that worked with him...
Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzajt9d2hbE
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Music documentaries became pretty popular in the last few years, which is cool since many feature length ones with good production value got and get released.
We are X didn't really tell us anything new either, but I liked it anyway. I only hope there will eventually be a properly subbed version of Hurry go round available online (I doubt there will be an english dubbed version).
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Yeah but we are x is the first full length theatrical documentary about x japan, and an internationally intended one at that. This new documentary is, however, not the first hide documentary. They released Junk Story in 2015. And this one also doesn't look like it will get released outside of Japan.
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here's a site in english language:
http://neotokyo2099.com/2018/03/14/hurry-go-round-documentary-about-x-japan-guitarist-hide-to-be-released-on-may-26th/
Actor Yamoto Yuba said:
"Hearing his music, It was a pure and powerful feeling that came into my chest and it was fun and unavoidable"... Whoah...
I think perhaps the film could tell something more or describe his life under a particular point of view.
Probably they won't release an english version... :-[ ::)
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(https://i.imgur.com/upfPcyj.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/DIZVMIr.jpg)
Guys, they say A.I. translator will be invented in 5 years. It's better to expect an A.I. translator. And 5 years is not a long time for X fans.
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A.I will never be true translators because languages have such nuances only complex minds are able to understand and translate to another language. :) Like what you mentioned before in the other thread that you think the word "expressionist" suits that Japanese word best. AI will just translate dictionary words. It will never be able to grasp subtle differences according to mood and feelings. Because language may originate from maths (logic) but it is much more complex than calculating algorhythms. Language is a living, breathing, transforming, changing entity, and robotic algorhythms will never be capable of fully translating that. Not in a way that would be truly meaningful and original and enjoyable. Machine translation might improve accuracy in the future but it will never replace human translators. Thankfully :)
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I'll wait five years... I could start studying japanese in the meantime... ::) ;)
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I'll wait five years... I could start studying japanese in the meantime... ::) ;)
I already started on Duolingo :D in 5 years I can be fluent :D
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lakeisle the 1st shot is great...! there is always something new with hide... It' s unbelievable :-*
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I already started on Duolingo :D in 5 years I can be fluent :D
I started on Duolingo too!!! ;D
and learned to write vowels with a schoolbook, i's fascinating ::) :D
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Add me, I'm there with the same username :D I'm at level 7, already learning counters and stuff :D I can partially read Toshi's insta posts now, except for the kanji parts 8)
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lakeisle the 1st shot is great...! there is always something new with hide... It' s unbelievable :-*
Is it really him? The pictures are awesome, but are somehow... strange.
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Oh I just did something like colors... just few lessons... ::)
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Is it really him? The pictures are awesome, but are somehow... strange.
It seems him... It's all I can say ::)
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Is it really him? The pictures are awesome, but are somehow... strange.
It seems him... It's all I can say ::)
It is absolutely him. That's his nose, chin and that's his mouth. Eyes are partly hidden but they look like him. Yea, no doubt in my mind plus the first photo is on hide-city.com :)
And they better do something about translating that into English or I will just have to watch it and not know most of what I am hearing. LOL!
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Not entirely sure how to feel about this. Part of me is dying to see it, the other part just kind of wishes Headwax would drop the mic and let the guy rest in peace once and for all. The synopsis sounds very interesting, though.
Also, that picture is strangely compelling. I had hard time believing it was the real Hide, though. 8) Quality pictures of him are quite rare, we all got used to seeing the dude through a screen of pixels and low-res distortion. It is a damn strange feeling to see the up-close, high res face of a guy who died two decades ago now! Cherry on top of the cake, he has this deeply unsettling gaze that kind of gives me the shivers.
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Yeah it is probably a digitally improved photo. Technology improved a lot, and now we are able to make films shot in the 1920s look like they were shot two weeks ago. I realy wish old X Japan footage were taken to be digitally improved, as well. It would be awesome to see 1989 concert footage in full HD. Maaaaan.
Yoshiki, if something, THIS should be your next project. :D
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Yeah it is probably a digitally improved photo. Technology improved a lot, and now we are able to make films shot in the 1920s look like they were shot two weeks ago. I realy wish old X Japan footage were taken to be digitally improved, as well. It would be awesome to see 1989 concert footage in full HD. Maaaaan.
Yoshiki, if something, THIS should be your next project. :D
THIS. THIS. THIS. So much this. Why does every single one of their videos pre-2008 have to look like it was shot with a potato?
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Why does every single one of their videos pre-2008 have to look like it was shot with a potato?
Well, the 1993-1997 Tokyo Dome concerts and the Visual Shock look absolutely amazing, especially the bluray versions. The VS is 9+ hours of video from 1988 to 1992 so there's that.
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There are gobs of great photos of hide out there on the net that are high resolution so I have no doubt it can be done in this documentary as well. I'm not sure about video editing programs but for still shots, Adobe Photoshop, Adobe Illustrator and Corel Draw are some of the best out there.
(https://orig00.deviantart.net/5a7b/f/2013/020/7/a/hide__hideto_matsumoto__by_miobitat-d5s3wip.jpg)
(https://orig00.deviantart.net/08ff/f/2017/017/f/f/hide_by_redladymercenary-davt4wh.png)
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Yeah it is probably a digitally improved photo. Technology improved a lot, and now we are able to make films shot in the 1920s look like they were shot two weeks ago. I realy wish old X Japan footage were taken to be digitally improved, as well. It would be awesome to see 1989 concert footage in full HD. Maaaaan.
Yoshiki, if something, THIS should be your next project. :D
THIS. THIS. THIS. So much this. Why does every single one of their videos pre-2008 have to look like it was shot with a potato?
I agree. I see videos with great sound but the video sucks. I am always tempted to download them and try to edit the videos to a higher quality, if I can find the software to do it, then reupload. They'd probably get pulled down, though. lol
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BTW, there are a lot of translators on the market right now that will translate voice from one language to another in real time. I keep seeing one advertised on tv as well that you wear over your ear like a headset for talking on the phone. Tempted to try it!
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I don't believe that's the real Hide on those photos. The clothing/gloves seem way too modern. His skin/face also seems a bit off. Maybe they used that lifesize wax figure that was made a few years ago? ???
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A good Photoshop or Illustrator user can do those kinds of effects on the gloves, etc, easily. Especially if they're a pro. That's his chin and mouth in that first photo for sure.
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The glove and the pick are manipulated in some program. I ran the pic through an analyzer.
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Well, the 1993-1997 Tokyo Dome concerts and the Visual Shock look absolutely amazing, especially the bluray versions. The VS is 9+ hours of video from 1988 to 1992 so there's that.
But I'm cheap AF and I don't buy bluray and DVDs and stuff. I just go on Youtube on my crappy mid-2000s computer, then complain ;D
The glove and the pick are manipulated in some program. I ran the pic through an analyzer.
I figured they might have some previously unreleased pictures from him that they might have been saving for a special occasion like this. The Junk Story documentary also flashed some good quality pics from Saver Tiger that I'd never seen before. Also, there wouldn't be much of a point in using a similar-looking model just for the cover, I guess. Still, agree that *something* there looks edited.
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Yea, see this colored part where the rainbow stripes or whatever you want to call them, that are on the glove and pick are? If that was not manipulated, it would be white, if anything. Actually, the whole pic should be very dark and no color or white at all. But this shows some heavy duty manipulation.
(https://i.imgur.com/gqdEW9L.png)
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Yeah it might be the wax figure. The eyes look lifeless and dull, even with photoshop.
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Hmmm, looks nothing like a wax figure to me, does it? Probably an unreleased picture from some photoshoot that they enhanced digitally. Would explain the unsettling absence of pores and other skin imperfections (or maybe he exfoliated like crazy). 8) Still, pretty weird to stare into his eyes.
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This photo sure feels weird. The eyes look kind of glassy and doll-like. The inner part of the lower eyelid is a strange unnatural pink color and the texture of the hair somehow doesn't look right. It could either be a wax figure or maybe a 3D model of the face photoshopped onto somebody posing with the pick.
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Yeah it is probably a digitally improved photo. Technology improved a lot, and now we are able to make films shot in the 1920s look like they were shot two weeks ago. I realy wish old X Japan footage were taken to be digitally improved, as well. It would be awesome to see 1989 concert footage in full HD. Maaaaan.
Yoshiki, if something, THIS should be your next project. :D
THIS. THIS. THIS. So much this. Why does every single one of their videos pre-2008 have to look like it was shot with a potato?
I agree. I see videos with great sound but the video sucks. I am always tempted to download them and try to edit the videos to a higher quality, if I can find the software to do it, then reupload. They'd probably get pulled down, though. lol
As far as I know this is impossible, unfortunately. A lot of X Japan's footage from their early days/90s was recorded with betacam which natively is standard definition resolution. I was kind of sad with the "bluray" releases as they are better quality but it's just a very cleaned up release from the master tapes, and they're still in SD, hence the black bars on the sides.
We'd only be in luck if any shows were recorded on film which when converted to digital, can be upwards of 4k resolution or more depending on what's used. Take a look at this footage of Nirvana from a show in 1991 recorded on film and converted to digital, it's incredible. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84CDRhobXsQ this is why films from the 30s and whatnot can look like they were shot yesterday if the master film is in good condition before being converted.
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As far as I know this is impossible, unfortunately. A lot of X Japan's footage from their early days/90s was recorded with betacam which natively is standard definition resolution. I was kind of sad with the "bluray" releases as they are better quality but it's just a very cleaned up release from the master tapes, and they're still in SD, hence the black bars on the sides.
Yeah but for what it is, the quality is really really good, especially if you watch it directly from the bluray. That said, I wish they could be properly converted.
I feel the eyes and chin look like hide's but there is something that looks odd, I doubt it's an actual photo of hide.
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A professional can make magic with good, professional photo editing programs. :)
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I'll wait five years... I could start studying japanese in the meantime... ::) ;)
I already started on Duolingo :D in 5 years I can be fluent :D
How is Duolingo? I was thinking about using it to study Japanese.
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This is also a photograph that has been manipulated or altered. Doesn't look real in some ways but it is.
(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/04/94/3f/04943fdfea46d8a7bbf81537865a122a.jpg)
Someone else found the cover photo with no text on it. Nice!!
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6c/7c/7c/6c7c7c54dfe4751175965e35768e00fd.jpg)
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How is Duolingo? I was thinking about using it to study Japanese.
I think it's useful, but personally I have to write down the letters because reading only is not enough for me to remember them
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I'll wait five years... I could start studying japanese in the meantime... ::) ;)
I already started on Duolingo :D in 5 years I can be fluent :D
How is Duolingo? I was thinking about using it to study Japanese.
I like it. The course is in beta, so there are a few mistakes in there, wrong pronunciation for a couple of kanjis but it's OK. It's good for a start and good to reinfroce information. I do plan to start using other means as well. :)
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@LEMONedMe, the first picture looks quite real to me. The stage lights make him look a bit different (read, chalky white), but it doesn't look off.
Who wants to start a cool conspiracy theory? Hide never really existed, his character was played by a bunch of different people (which explains the dramatic hair and face changes throughout the years). When technology improved and HD cameras were invented, they had to kill off their imaginary guitarist or else we would all find out. Beat this. 8) 8) 8)
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That's actually hide's PSYBORG. I just realized it.
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hide wore braces!!!!!!!!!! :o
Look at his bottom teeth. Maybe some on the side of his upper jaw as well.
(https://i.imgur.com/wlNw6Tt.jpg)
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hide wore braces!!!!!!!!!! :o
Look at his bottom teeth. Maybe some on the side of his upper jaw as well.
(https://i.imgur.com/wlNw6Tt.jpg)
Yes, he started to wear braces few time before he died. You can clearly notice it on Last Live, where sometimes looks like he is trying to hide them.
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Hmmm, I never noticed them on Last Live or any other time. I did notice that sometimes his teeth looked kinda strange, though, but I am thinking that was earlier. I don't remember exactly what videos. I'll have to check it out.
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@LEMONedMe, the first picture looks quite real to me. The stage lights make him look a bit different (read, chalky white), but it doesn't look off.
Who wants to start a cool conspiracy theory? Hide never really existed, his character was played by a bunch of different people (which explains the dramatic hair and face changes throughout the years). When technology improved and HD cameras were invented, they had to kill off their imaginary guitarist or else we would all find out. Beat this. 8) 8) 8)
I was thinking more of how his hair looks and the shadow along the side of his nose. LOL
Sure, let's start a conspiracy! Hahaha! ;D
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Hmmm, I never noticed them on Last Live or any other time. I did notice that sometimes his teeth looked kinda strange, though, but I am thinking that was earlier. I don't remember exactly what videos. I'll have to check it out.
Probably not braces. His teeth were very badly stained by tobacco, though, especially in his later years.
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I don't think that's braces. The wires would be visible.
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I don't think that's braces. The wires would be visible.
As someone who wore braces for some years, I know that there are some more expensive models which are more discrete, and the wires has almost the same color as the teeth.
I still think he was wearing braces, not that his teeth were damaged.
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I don't think that's braces. The wires would be visible.
Can you see them now?
(https://i.imgur.com/RR4lARw.jpg)
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I'll wait five years... I could start studying japanese in the meantime... ::) ;)
I already started on Duolingo :D in 5 years I can be fluent :D
How is Duolingo? I was thinking about using it to study Japanese.
I like it. The course is in beta, so there are a few mistakes in there, wrong pronunciation for a couple of kanjis but it's OK. It's good for a start and good to reinfroce information. I do plan to start using other means as well. :)
Thank you for the information. It looks so fun :D
(https://i.imgur.com/dwXdyzk.jpg)
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I don't think that's braces. The wires would be visible.
As someone who wore braces for some years, I know that there are some more expensive models which are more discrete, and the wires has almost the same color as the teeth.
I still think he was wearing braces, not that his teeth were damaged.
I also wore braces, but in the 90s I doubt there were invisible wires.
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There were near invisible over here and every color under the sun. Those colored ones were annoying to look at. UGH.
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Thank you for the information. It looks so fun :D
(https://i.imgur.com/dwXdyzk.jpg)
;D
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Ceramic braces have been popular since early 90's. If hide were really wearing braces, I don't know why. Once I wondered why Yoshiki and Toshl did not wear braces when they were children. But I always thought hide had nice teeth. His mouth did not protrude and his teeth were arranged. Maybe was there a medical reason?
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There are definitely metal braces on hide's lower teeth in the photo, above. The photo is a screen grab from a video so it may not be as evident in the photo but I didn't notice it until I did the screen grab and was working a bit on the color because the whole video is so yellow. That's when I noticed them. I have found more but not of the braces but of what really looks like very bad teeth - like what I have seen in videos when he was on stage. I am checking those, now.
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This is one of the pix of hide's smile and front teeth. All I have done is blown it up. This is the kind of thing I have seen in a lot of older videos but not so old that they're discolored or faded, either. I have a theory but I don't want to believe it. That or he just had very bad teeth which is possible, being bulimic and not getting proper nutrition. I guess that would depend on at what age he started making himself throw up.
(https://i.imgur.com/E1VdMo5.jpg)
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Bulimia can definitely do this to teeth and worse. I just read about 5 articles on it. I bet he had a whole bunch of work done. I've noticed a few other things, especially about his smile and lips that could mean some little bit of plastic surgery was done or maybe not. Especially noticeable to me directly under the nasal septum, called the philtrum. That space directly between the nose and the upper lip. I am super observant of faces, probably because I was at one time a portrait artist and also a photo retouchist for a photography studio and did all the work in oils, by hand.
I don't want to pick on him cause I adore him so I am not going to nit pick at his face after this. If he did have work done, why not? I would if I were him and had that kind of money. Not a doubt in my mind, I'd do it.
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He was also a chain smoker and drank a lot. I believe he had stained teeth but I don't think he had any braces. Ad plastic surgery, I don't think it s viable, either. He didn't seem like the type of guy who'd go under the kinfe. He did wear tons of makeup, and you can slightly alter your face with makeup too, with correct shading techniques.
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He was also a chain smoker and drank a lot. I believe he had stained teeth but I don't think he had any braces. Ad plastic surgery, I don't think it s viable, either. He didn't seem like the type of guy who'd go under the kinfe. He did wear tons of makeup, and you can slightly alter your face with makeup too, with correct shading techniques.
You can't see the braces on his bottom teeth in the first photo?
Smoking doesn't give a person blackened teeth. Rust or brown, yes, black and/or grey, no.
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If you look closely in The Last Live, you can definitely see the metal.
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It's in this video which is the one the still shot I posted is from.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiXBWraOZxM
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Didn't he once say he could smoke up to 6 packs of cigarettes when he was recording? I remember reading this on an interview from the mid-1990s. That's something like 120 cigarettes a day. Read, Hiroshima in your mouth and lungs. I'm a rather heavy smoker myself, but I get my teeth bleached professionally every now and then, or else that's excatly what smoking will do to your appearance. Also, you can see a major difference in his smile from pictures when he was younger and the ones circa 1998. Don't think he ever got plastic surgery, though. But it's hard to tell under that ton of makeup.
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Just talking a wee amount of something to reduce the depth of that philtrum. Just a little fill, there. It's nowhere as deep in later photos as it is in earlier ones and video as well.
As far as his smoking, sometimes he said 4 packs and sometimes 2 or 3. I notice he lets the cigarette just hang between his fingers which is something I used to do. I'd waste an entire pack doing that and never smoke them even though they were lit!
My entire family smoked as they were tobacco farmers on my mom's side. Many of them used chewing tobacco. Nobody had blackened teeth. Brownish, yea, but not blackened. Google Bulimia teeth and do an image search. You'll see it.
As far as the teeth...
:O
(https://i.imgur.com/wTA0RoY.jpg)
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He was also a chain smoker and drank a lot. I believe he had stained teeth but I don't think he had any braces. Ad plastic surgery, I don't think it s viable, either. He didn't seem like the type of guy who'd go under the kinfe. He did wear tons of makeup, and you can slightly alter your face with makeup too, with correct shading techniques.
You can't see the braces on his bottom teeth in the first photo?
Smoking doesn't give a person blackened teeth. Rust or brown, yes, black and/or grey, no.
No I don't see it in those photos or the video. I see bad teeth, but not brackets and wires. I watched the Last Live a hundred times already, too. Also, don't forget that these videos are all really low quality, with a lot of pixelation... It can be really deceiving. With old photos, also. There were researchrs for example who said that Sergei Yesenin (one of my fave Russian poets) was killed and you can see the indenture on his skull in the photo taken at his bier. It later turned out that the photo was a multi-reproduction of the original and what people saw as a hit-mark on his skull was actually due to the multiple manual reproduction of the photograph. People standing next to his bier saw nothing of the sort on his head.
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Maybe you need a larger monitor? :D
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Maybe you need a larger monitor? :D
Or you need to stop seeing things into pixelated old videos, maybe? ;)
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3:47
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfRr3wafG9U
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Maybe you need a larger monitor? :D
Or you need to stop seeing things into pixelated old videos, maybe? ;)
Now you are just trying very hard to prove a point that isn't true. There's no way you can't see those braces on his lower teeth and that's not an old pixelated photo.
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Ok, then let the pixelated pictures war begin LOL :D
There's nothing on his teeth here:
(http://i64.tinypic.com/5es7kl.jpg)
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Well that's going to have to wait for tonight because I have to get off here. And you will not convince me that he did NOT wear braces at one point. ;D
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3:47
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfRr3wafG9U
His mouth is not even open enough here :D Guys, you are imagining stuff, seriously :)
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It's from the same video... I cant' see anything, at least not on the upper part of his mouth...
https://youtu.be/WiXBWraOZxM?t=35
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I think it's likely to be a metallic reflection of coloured spotlight on teeht's split...
(If Hide is watching us arguing about his teeth I bet he is lauhging his head off :D)
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(If Hide is watching us arguing about his teeth I bet he is lauhging his head off :D)
Yeah, Hide just called from the afterlife department. Can confirm. He's laughing his ass off. 8)
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I hope Yoshiki stop talking about hide's eating disorder. I've never heard hide talked about it himself. If I was hide, I would not feel good.
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I hope Yoshiki stop talking about hide's eating disorder. I've never heard hide talked about it himself. If I was hide, I would not feel good.
He must not have kept it a secret because there are a group of photos of him (staged) where he is sitting on the floor next to a toilet with the lid up and a lot of toilet paper all around the side where he's sitting.
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I would never have known about it, if Yoshiki had not talked about it.
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(If Hide is watching us arguing about his teeth I bet he is lauhging his head off :D)
Yeah, Hide just called from the afterlife department. Can confirm. He's laughing his ass off. 8)
Agreed. He is totally having a ball, laughing his ass off at us. lol
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Just for the record, I never said I could see braces on his TOP TEETH!
It's the bottom teeth that have the braces on them.
One more time...
(https://i.imgur.com/MHOVBW5.jpg)
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I hope Yoshiki stop talking about hide's eating disorder. I've never heard hide talked about it himself. If I was hide, I would not feel good.
Agree. Hide mentioned disliking his physique multiple times during his early interviews, but never hinted at an eating disorder. Yoshiki throwing their sympathy puke parties out there like it's a funny fact kind of makes me cringe. But what do I know, maybe bulimia is cool is Japan?
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But what do I know, maybe bulimia is cool is Japan?
When I first discovered this band, everything was really shocking. I wondered if their behavior was normal in Japan. But after looking into Japanese communities, I noticed that most Japanese think like me. The shocking things to me are shocking to them, the cool things to me are cool to them, and the cringe things to me are cringe to them. The Japanese were not Martians. :D And they don't know either what we don't know - f.e. Why Taiji was fired? Did hide kill himself or was it an accident?, etc.
Bulimia can't not be a cool thing in Japan for sure. (But I think I'm taking your sarcasm/irony seriously)
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I sure was being ironic, but looking back, maybe not entirely. Unfortunately eating disorders are still considered 'cool' in certain circles, here in the west. And I'm not even talking of those very sick kids who blog daily about their food restrictions and share what they call "thinspo" (pictures of scarily thin models and celebrities they consider pretty - just do a #proana or #promia search on tumblr, you'll see what I'm talking about). I have a bunch of (fairly sane and normal) female acquaintances who lowkey brag about their methods for maintaining their underweight silhouette. They don't make a big deal out of it, but will occasionaly mention how they stuff their faces with a huge brunch every Sunday, then puke it out. Some people seem to find this cool, considering the ladies in question are total glam dolls. Similarly, hard drugs were considered cool in Germany back in the 1970s-80s. A kid called Christiane F. wrote a book about her heroin habits and they made a film starring a pretty and scarily thin model in her role. Then they added in David Bowie, lots of shots of the kids shooting up to 'Heroes' and lots of Berlinesque eye candy. As a result, European kids started to think heroin was cool and the 'junkie' look became a form of aesthetic.
TL;DR: I can totally see young kids thinking bulimia is a cool/cute thing to have. But I have no idea if that's the case in Japan. (heck, I hope not)
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But I have no idea if that's the case in Japan. (heck, I hope not)
I don't think so. Probably Yoshiki isn't aware of it, or even hide wasn't aware if he was really bulimic. Or even if Yoshiki was really joking about it, maybe there was an inside joke between them. They were close friends afterall. hide himself made jokes about his alcohol addiction.
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Similarly, hard drugs were considered cool in Germany back in the 1970s-80s. A kid called Christiane F. wrote a book about her heroin habits and they made a film starring a pretty and scarily thin model in her role. Then they added in David Bowie, lots of shots of the kids shooting up to 'Heroes' and lots of Berlinesque eye candy. As a result, European kids started to think heroin was cool and the 'junkie' look became a form of aesthetic.
There was a heroin epidemic in western europe back then, but the movie is actually pretty depressing and repulsing (although it makes the drug scene look kinda fascinating at least in its first half). Thinking it drove it drove teenagers to taking heroin is like thinking that ego shooters or horror movies cause violence.It also wasnvt that big of a success.
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Apparently in Japan, eating disorders are highly frowned upon and shameful according to multiple news sites on the net.
http://www.bbc.com/news/health-36095287
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There was a heroin epidemic in western europe back then, but the movie is actually pretty depressing and repulsing (although it makes the drug scene look kinda fascinating at least in its first half). Thinking it drove it drove teenagers to taking heroin is like thinking that ego shooters or horror movies cause violence.It also wasnvt that big of a success.
Off topic: the film is fascinating, and so is the book. Probably depends on the countries and the cultures, but in the 1990s, it was our go-to forbidden book about everything we were curious about: drugs, sex, prostitution, porn, society beyond our boring and sheltered family lives, you name it. It sure didn't drive me into heroin (though it drive me into David Bowie!), but a lot of the junkie kids were big fans of it.
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(https://i.imgur.com/DIZVMIr.jpg)
Previously posted ^^^
Just ran into this on my Pinterest board. Even the moles on his face are in the right place. Convinced! :)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b0/51/60/b051602d6dbdb98fd8f3bd35e3799277.jpg)
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Because that's an older photo, you can see it in its quality, too. The clothes are different, as well. I think the first one is a recreation using either a 3d model or his wax figure as a base.
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How many wax models are there?
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Not sure, probably several in the hide museum. I only find photos of the one they promoted outside the museum, and it is incredibly life-like
https://hu.pinterest.com/pin/796503884071390246/
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Seeing the side by side did the trick for me, I'm quite convinced it's an actual picture of him. Features match in a way a similar looking model's couldn't. We're probably just so used to seeing pixelated pictures that have toured the internetz over and over, we're having a hard time believing the guy was ever photographed by a pro with a DSLR and not with a potato 8)
Still, it's haunting as fuck.
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Not sure, probably several in the hide museum. I only find photos of the one they promoted outside the museum, and it is incredibly life-like
https://hu.pinterest.com/pin/796503884071390246/
This one is the only one I am aware of and the reason it looks so life-like is probably because hide had it done, as far as the face, on purpose. He had a wax or plaster cast made of his face. That way, the wax model would be exactly him.
I am confident in saying this is not the face on the magazine cover. It's very remarkable but it's not the same as that photo. Even the eyes are looking a different direction plus the magazine or program cover and back, if that's what it is, are two different poses.
(https://i.imgur.com/cLpX6uL.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/Hs4jjxs.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/FtMW47J.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/SNqyRNI.jpg)
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Seeing the side by side did the trick for me, I'm quite convinced it's an actual picture of him. Features match in a way a similar looking model's couldn't. We're probably just so used to seeing pixelated pictures that have toured the internetz over and over, we're having a hard time believing the guy was ever photographed by a pro with a DSLR and not with a potato 8)
Still, it's haunting as fuck.
Haunting, yes, but beautiful, isn't it? :)
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To me, that wax model is very haunting. That almost gives me the creeps but it's also beautiful as well. The other - the large photos, are warm and beautiful looking as far as the face and the eyes but not the wax replica. I saw a photo of a man looking at it and he looked like he was gasping. He had put his hand over his mouth as though he was shocked.
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Haunting, yes, but beautiful, isn't it? :)
Beautiful he sure was, but those eyes look like they might move and stare at me through the screen at any moment. That's nightmare material!
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I have my hide wig for cosplay in my room on full display. I can't say I wasn't frightened by it a couple of times when I woke up in the middle of the night. LOL
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Haunting, yes, but beautiful, isn't it? :)
Beautiful he sure was, but those eyes look like they might move and stare at me through the screen at any moment. That's nightmare material!
Ohhh the real hide would never scare me. Maybe cause sometimes I think an awful lot like he did. I think if I had met him on the street and struck up a conversation, we could have gotten ourselves into some big trouble, playing tricks on people and being damn silly as all hell. Hahaha!
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I have my hide wig for cosplay in my room on full display. I can't say I wasn't frightened by it a couple of times when I woke up in the middle of the night. LOL
Show us pictures!! I will have to admit that if I woke up and that wing was hanging there, it would freak the hell out of me at first until I woke up enough to realize what it was. Hahahaha! I bet it looks like an old character from a comedy that used to run, here. That character was called "cousin It". lmao
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Cousin It with his sunglasses on. Hahahahaha!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBN2WGJWQAAbarS.jpg)
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I sure was being ironic, but looking back, maybe not entirely. Unfortunately eating disorders are still considered 'cool' in certain circles, here in the west. And I'm not even talking of those very sick kids who blog daily about their food restrictions and share what they call "thinspo" (pictures of scarily thin models and celebrities they consider pretty - just do a #proana or #promia search on tumblr, you'll see what I'm talking about). I have a bunch of (fairly sane and normal) female acquaintances who lowkey brag about their methods for maintaining their underweight silhouette. They don't make a big deal out of it, but will occasionaly mention how they stuff their faces with a huge brunch every Sunday, then puke it out. Some people seem to find this cool, considering the ladies in question are total glam dolls. Similarly, hard drugs were considered cool in Germany back in the 1970s-80s. A kid called Christiane F. wrote a book about her heroin habits and they made a film starring a pretty and scarily thin model in her role. Then they added in David Bowie, lots of shots of the kids shooting up to 'Heroes' and lots of Berlinesque eye candy. As a result, European kids started to think heroin was cool and the 'junkie' look became a form of aesthetic.
TL;DR: I can totally see young kids thinking bulimia is a cool/cute thing to have. But I have no idea if that's the case in Japan. (heck, I hope not)
I searched "Christiane.F" on the internet. There are some posts on blogs in my country. After reading the rough plot of the movie, I can see the meaning of your profile photo. I'm grown too much to watch the movie, but you made me interested in David Bowie. ;)(Yes, I'm completely ignorant about Western pop music)
I know there are a handful of girls who boast anorexia and extremely thin body. However, the influence of such girls are limited only on-line. I doubt if the photos or experiences they post are all real. We know there are crazy people who try to gain people's attention and show off their grotesque photos and stories. In many cases, photos are manipulated or fake. Of course, there will be real cases.
I guess 95% of people are not interested in such things, 4.9% of people will be disgusted with it. And less than 0.1% will admire it.
I may be wrong. I can't know exactly if I am not belong directly to the group.
Anyway, I've never met people who praised their eating disorder off-line. In my society, there is a difference between the cyber space and the real space. I think the neighboring country, Japan, will be the same. But is it different in Europe? Do they boast their bulimia publicly in the real world? At schools or at workplaces or in regional meetings? If so, wow, it's obviously a cultural difference.
By the way, bulimia is a difficult word. As far as I can understand from the dictionary, it's an eating disorder associated with binge eating, right? But is it clear that hide was bingeing? I heard several times that Yoshiki talked about hide's vomiting, but never heard about bingeing. ::)
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Cousin It with his sunglasses on. Hahahahaha!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBN2WGJWQAAbarS.jpg)
LOL. Your cousin?
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It's a character from the TV series Addams Family :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Addams_Family
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Cousin It with his sunglasses on. Hahahahaha!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBN2WGJWQAAbarS.jpg)
LOL. Your cousin?
Hahahahaha, nooooo! Cousin It was a comedy character in an old TV show called Addams Family. Then there's a newer version, I think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2ajHEdsdU4
LOL
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It's a character from the TV series Addams Family :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Addams_Family
Hahahahaha! :P
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hahahahahahaha! So embarrassed. ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ I have to disappear ㅋㅋㅋ
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hahahahahahaha! So embarrassed. ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ I have to disappear ㅋㅋㅋ
Noooooo, don't be embarrassed. It was a silly old tv show. Nothing to be embarrassed about!
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Hey guys,
today I was in Shibuya. I have something for ya:
(https://i.imgur.com/cArjZGe.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/fGqSxiF.jpg)
I've posted 3 of them on imgur...
https://imgur.com/a/zmEZC
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Oh COOL!!! I want!! LOL
They better put this up for sale or else! lololol
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Anyway, I've never met people who praised their eating disorder off-line. In my society, there is a difference between the cyber space and the real space. I think the neighboring country, Japan, will be the same. But is it different in Europe? Do they boast their bulimia publicly in the real world? At schools or at workplaces or in regional meetings? If so, wow, it's obviously a cultural difference.
By the way, bulimia is a difficult word. As far as I can understand from the dictionary, it's an eating disorder associated with binge eating, right? But is it clear that hide was bingeing? I heard several times that Yoshiki talked about hide's vomiting, but never heard about bingeing. ::)
I guess it really depends on the social circle you're in and the situation. I'm working class and I hang out with working class folks, we have to be level headed and fairly reasonable, so bragging about having an eating disorder in public would be a big no-no. Because of my job, though, I sometimes get to spend time with the very upper French class and I can clearly see the difference. If you go to their brunches and their parties and their all-rich-girls meetings and whatnot, people will openly brag about how bulimia helps them stay thin and how cocaine makes them better at sex. I cringed a lot at this at first. But they seem to think it's cool. It's glam, it's rock'n'roll, they can afford to engage in risky behaviour because they have a solid security net. It's a different world. 8)
As for bulimia, there are many forms of it. The most common is bingeing and then purging (vomiting). We speculated here Hide could have a form of bulimia because of stuff he said in interviews and Yoshiki openly stating that he made himself throw up a lot (and that they sometimes did it together). But again, it's just speculation. Maybe he didn't do it often or maybe Yoshiki extracted the anecdote from a one-time event.
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I guess it really depends on the social circle you're in and the situation. I'm working class and I hang out with working class folks, we have to be level headed and fairly reasonable, so bragging about having an eating disorder in public would be a big no-no. Because of my job, though, I sometimes get to spend time with the very upper French class and I can clearly see the difference. If you go to their brunches and their parties and their all-rich-girls meetings and whatnot, people will openly brag about how bulimia helps them stay thin and how cocaine makes them better at sex. I cringed a lot at this at first. But they seem to think it's cool. It's glam, it's rock'n'roll, they can afford to engage in risky behaviour because they have a solid security net. It's a different world. 8)
matsumoto,
It's very interesting. Thank you for sharing your experience and insight. I do not belong to such an upper class, but I can imagine them through your description.
It may be a weird question. (just curiosity) Are there many males among those who boast bulimia?
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It may be a weird question. (just curiosity) Are there many males among those who boast bulimia?
That's actually a very interesting question! Nope, most of them are girls. Bulimia and anorexia can also affect men, though, it's just that modern society puts way more pressure on women to please the opposite sex than the other way around.
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I have my hide wig for cosplay in my room on full display. I can't say I wasn't frightened by it a couple of times when I woke up in the middle of the night. LOL
Show us pictures!! I will have to admit that if I woke up and that wing was hanging there, it would freak the hell out of me at first until I woke up enough to realize what it was. Hahahaha! I bet it looks like an old character from a comedy that used to run, here. That character was called "cousin It". lmao
It's not such a god quality cosplay. It's just a try, and I don't look anything remotely like hide in it. LOL.
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I have my hide wig for cosplay in my room on full display. I can't say I wasn't frightened by it a couple of times when I woke up in the middle of the night. LOL
Show us pictures!! I will have to admit that if I woke up and that wing was hanging there, it would freak the hell out of me at first until I woke up enough to realize what it was. Hahahaha! I bet it looks like an old character from a comedy that used to run, here. That character was called "cousin It". lmao
It's not such a god quality cosplay. It's just a try, and I don't look anything remotely like hide in it. LOL.
LOL, well could you take a photo of the wig or you with the wig on? I understand if you don't want to put your photo on the net but maybe the wig would be ok?
I have a hide wig, too, but mine is like his hair was in Last Live and I sure don't look like him. Hahahahaha!
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That's actually a very interesting question! Nope, most of them are girls. Bulimia and anorexia can also affect men, though, it's just that modern society puts way more pressure on women to please the opposite sex than the other way around.
Thank you. Yes, I agree that women have more pressure on their appearance. But I think having anorexia(or other eating disorders) and boasting it to others are different thing. If the anorexic condition is due to the obsession that they should look attractive to the opposite sex, in my opinion, boasting it to others is something exists only in female to female relationship.
It sounds like misogynist... But I can't even imagine women boast their bulimia to the opposite sex(likewise, I can't imagine male boast it to female or male boast it to male). Are there many women who boast bulimia to men? And do men think it cool?
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Hey guys,
today I was in Shibuya. I have something for ya:
(https://i.imgur.com/cArjZGe.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/fGqSxiF.jpg)
I've posted 3 of them on imgur...
https://imgur.com/a/zmEZC
Aww... It must be a strange feeling... I guess hide is known also by young people in Japan...
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Aww... It must be a strange feeling... I guess hide is known also by young people in Japan...
Yeah I am pretty sure young people know him. His face can be seen at the biggest crossing in the middle of Shibuya. ^^
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...found another photo regarding the new documentary (whoops, it's HUGE):
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/89e13c5373f42bdeb6e1fddeb40bbf9f/tumblr_p71nb15pHF1sd66rzo1_1280.jpg)
And apparently there's a longer trailer now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAnJHa82q40
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Yea, I saw that one, too. I think I put it in my Pinterest list.
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Not sure, probably several in the hide museum. I only find photos of the one they promoted outside the museum, and it is incredibly life-like
https://hu.pinterest.com/pin/796503884071390246/
That's a wax figure?! Holy crap that looks real, like they took a picture of him at an event somewhere. Wow
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Not sure, probably several in the hide museum. I only find photos of the one they promoted outside the museum, and it is incredibly life-like
https://hu.pinterest.com/pin/796503884071390246/
That's a wax figure?! Holy crap that looks real, like they took a picture of him at an event somewhere. Wow
hide had a wax impression made of his face or head. Maybe more than one. Not sure how many. But that's how that wax figure of him was done.
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I hope that happened while he was alive....
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I'm pretty sure it did... eeeeeek if it didn't. :-\
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I hope that happened while he was alive....
I'm going to hell for laughing at this, but I just choked on my coffee and snorted loud enough to rouse my dozing co-worker ;D
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Well there's that other photo floating around that always reminds me of a death mask. ??? I hope to hell it's not! ???
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And then there's the plaster bust. This just gets more and more weird. *shakes head*
(https://blog-001.west.edge.storage-yahoo.jp/res/blog-9b-e3/ito_y_/folder/1043882/85/31031885/img_0?1346512054)(https://blog-001.west.edge.storage-yahoo.jp/res/blog-9b-e3/ito_y_/folder/1043882/85/31031885/img_1?1346512054)
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New details about "Hurry Go Round":
http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/AJ201806230003.html
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That song, Hide Vocal Take 2 is on Spotify. Listening now. Excellent quality. I just wonder what to make of it, though.
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Oh well it's on youtube, too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMyklN0b1OI
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Thank you LEMONedMe... I was too lazy to try to find it, I like it sooo much :)
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You're welcome, helenmoon and I love it a lot. The one on Spotify seems to be better quality, maybe. I had to turn the sound down because everyone is sleeping and I was afraid I was going to wake everyone and they'd be after me to turn it down. Hahahahaha!
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I want to know what this means. What was said. Has anyone actually seen this film, yet?
One climax in the film is a sequence where Yamoto asks Hiroshi Matsumoto, hide’s 50-year-old younger brother and manager, a former bodyguard and others about what the rocker said the night before he died.
Their accounts reveal new details, including how hide was rushed to a hospital.
“They told me things they never told anyone before. I’m grateful,” the director said.
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I wish they'd release a version with subtitles. Does anyone know if that is going to happen?
It's a shame that there's so much material out there that is only accessible in Japanese language (a lot of interviews for example). Makes me sad... I'd even pay for someone to make subtitles. Or I'll make them myself as soon as my understanding of Japanese is good enough (in a few years ::) ).
But I love, love, love the "new" version of "Hurry Go Round". :)
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I have a feeling there will be no version with subtitles. Darn it. There hasn't been any talk of even releasing this on DVD that I can find. And this is so totally unfair. Maybe we should all get together and email Hiroshi or whomever produced the movie in the first place. I am sure there would be 1000s of people who want to buy it. And in English or at least with English subtitles.
I love the new version of Hurry Go Round, too. :-*
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgYNm7KUYAAC_w5.jpg:large)
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I want to know why Yoshiki's pictures and hashtags are all over everything about this movie on twitter? Even the link https://www.universal-music.co.jp/cinema/hurrygoround/ for the movie and the song, Hurry Go Round has a photo of Yoshiki on it and not even a single photo of hide on the post on twitter, just Yoshiki. >:( Really, come on. Just enough already!
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Either this is already out or it won't be long, now. Hide-city has it as a Blu Ray and also regular DVD but I can't quite understand what I am reading on there. So I don't know if it's pre-order or it's already up for sale. Arrrgh. I want it and I know I won't understand anything that is said which will be excruciating.
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Either this is already out or it won't be long, now. Hide-city has it as a Blu Ray and also regular DVD but I can't quite understand what I am reading on there. So I don't know if it's pre-order or it's already up for sale. Arrrgh. I want it and I know I won't understand anything that is said which will be excruciating.
It will be released on the 12/5 here and there is a screening for Thailand planned as well. I doubt hiroshi will do anything about english subtitles though : /