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The band => The Members => Taiji => Topic started by: Kurenai_Akari on July 21, 2015, 04:20:22 AM
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I've been seeing this book float around my news feed on Facebook for the past two weeks & apparently it's suppose to entail the final weeks of Taiji's life before the Saipan incident, along with some investigative insight to his passing.
Link is here - http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/4800235987
So let's discuss people:
- Are you planning to buy the book?
- Are willing to read the book (if you know Japanese)
- What sort of information do you think the author knows about this?
My thoughts are:
- I'm on the fence about buying it. I mean, it was one thing to buy ToshI's book because it was written by him, but I'm wary about this.
- My Japanese is really weak, so I probably couldn't read even if I wanted to. I'd put in a request to the ladies who translated ToshI's to translate this one.
- I have no clue what sort of information the author would have & that's kinda scary to me.
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Check on the page to see if you can see the inside of the book, and if there's any author's note on how he got it.
Also, could you please tell me where I may read a translation of Toshi's book?
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You can read Toshi's book here: http://www.xjapantranslations.com/x-japan/%E3%80%8C%E6%B4%97%E8%84%B3-%E5%9C%B0%E7%8D%84%E3%81%AE12%E5%B9%B4%E3%81%8B%E3%82%89%E3%81%AE%E7%94%9F%E9%82%84%E3%80%8D-brainwashed-comeback-from-12-years-of-hell
And there's a topic about this book on this forum: http://www.x-freaks.com/forum/index.php?topic=7155.0
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Thank you so much!! :D
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Apparently the author is Tomomi Akatsuka, Taiji's lover (?)
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Ah, she was the one, I guess, who started a petition to force the police to make further investigations concerning Taiji's death, because she didn't believe he commited suicide.
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I have plans translating Tomomi's book but it doesn't depend only on my will. A friend of mine who read it and have better japanese than mine told me a lot about it. Generally it's about Taiji's arrest and death, many of it was already published one way or another online by third side, fans, Taiji supporters and other people. Because I cannot rush my friend, who have her personal life and isues like all of us, if translation is not a fact in next few months, I am planning to buy a copy of this book and give it to agency to translate it for me, so I will upload it one way or another.
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I have plans translating Tomomi's book but it doesn't depend only on my will. A friend of mine who read it and have better japanese than mine told me a lot about it. Generally it's about Taiji's arrest and death, many of it was already published one way or another online by third side, fans, Taiji supporters and other people. Because I cannot rush my friend, who have her personal life and isues like all of us, if translation is not a fact in next few months, I am planning to buy a copy of this book and give it to agency to translate it for me, so I will upload it one way or another.
Hell yeah, that'd be great actually! I'm more than willing to wait for an English translation, fan made or official.
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First part of the book is ready to read in english here (http://hydeism.oxxy.com/X-Truth), soon I will post more.
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First part of the book is ready to read in english here (http://hydeism.oxxy.com/X-Truth), soon I will post more.
Ah. That was REALLY fast.
Now despite me saying that I'd love for it to be translated & such, I'll probably hold off on reading it immediately. I dunno. . .
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I have to appology, site was hacked and half of the information was los. Now everyting is fixed, first chapter of the book is avialable. Next will be uploaded next week.
If despite everything you have any troubles with the site, please let me know.
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We asked you nicely to notify us if you were going to share our translation, yet you did not.
That translation was made by my friend (japanese->italian ) and me ( italian -> english ), so I'd like to officially inform everyone who has an interest in it that we won't supply this person with our work anymore;
We'd however be glad to post it here, so that fans get to read it, granted it doesn't pose a problem with the admins.
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We'd however be glad to post it here, so that fans get to read it, granted it doesn't pose a problem with the admins.
Hey,
thnaks for your work. Please post it here. I'm sure you will many fans very happy
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We asked you nicely to notify us if you were going to share our translation, yet you did not.
That translation was made by my friend (japanese->italian ) and me ( italian -> english ), so I'd like to officially inform everyone who has an interest in it that we won't supply this person with our work anymore;
We'd however be glad to post it here, so that fans get to read it, granted it doesn't pose a problem with the admins.
First and foremost, thanks to you and your friend for working hard in translating the book. Second off, it'd be cool if you could post the translations here, but only if you guys want to.
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We asked you nicely to notify us if you were going to share our translation, yet you did not.
That translation was made by my friend (japanese->italian ) and me ( italian -> english ), so I'd like to officially inform everyone who has an interest in it that we won't supply this person with our work anymore;
We'd however be glad to post it here, so that fans get to read it, granted it doesn't pose a problem with the admins.
I'm sorry, I created a site especially to post anything that happens on his case. I gave you a credits as you asked, as you can see at the site. This is not only your work because I translated it from english to bulgarian and in site you first agreed to be posted. It was me creating and running only by myself a site and a facebok page, also me who translated the entire autobiographical book, not only one chapter (twise, because site was hacked and I had no copy of it). It was also me who had a long argument with Wikipedia before they agreed to publish the new version of Taiji's death where it wasn't showed as a suicide but concidering a posibility to be a murder.
My boss agreed to post an article in our site for this case, he is a big fan of X btw, also I connected to a local radio and they said they are interested to make a live transmission about Taiji's case. It was also me who painted his portrait on the fence so people passing by are stopping and asking who Taiji and Hide were and what happened to them.
"This person" promoted your work and supported it, is that the problem, you want credits only for yourself? I have no problem with that, my goal is truth to reach more people, not someone to know my name.
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I sure hope this all gets sorted out quickly because I really would like to read it. I feel I could learn a lot about Taiji from it although there are probably other pages and articles on here that have worthwhile information as well. Thank all of you for all you are doing.
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I found this russian site about Taiji
https://vk.com/x_universe
There seem to be some materials from various sources... and there's an interview from first '90s... seems interesting.. I don't know how reliable it will be a translaton in english from a russian text which has already been translated (from who knows who) probably from japanese... anyway I could try... ::)
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helenmoon, thank you for this website!!
Chrome is translating it for me. Woah, weird stuff regarding interviewing hide. :o
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I didn't know this book existed. I only knew about the Taiji autobio published in 2000. His death is so veiled. I'm looking forward to your translation. 8)
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... I'm reading Tajiji's book dedication to hide..
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from here:
http://xjapanfansforum.informe.com/x-no-sei-to-shi-uchuu-o-kakeru-tomo-e-dt244.html
I found the prologue:
"Prologue
Taiji, Sawada Taiji…I wonder, do you really know the person called by this name?
It may be that I am not someone who can publish a book that's worthy of a great award.
The fact is, just a little bit before this, I was a homeless man whose very existence had disappeared.
In the things I did after I quit X, my life took a downward turn.
No matter where I go, for some reason I can't settle my mind.
Though I thought that I must have had a screw loose somewhere, my body and my soul were both rusty, and it became hard to move smoothly.
Frankly, even now, I can't find this screw.
But even so, it's true that it's as if something has gone missing.
While I stretch my hands out to receive drop after drop of the oil of hope, I am doing nothing but continuing to polish away at the rust.
Until this heavy rusted body of mine shines brightly with new life again, I will continue to work hard.
And afterwards, I will only continue to look for that misplaced screw. As I gather up the pieces one by one of the rust that has peeled off, I will continue my search.
And so, now having the many pieces of rust in my hands, the time has come when they can finally be able to be made to rest in peace.
At the same time, this is nothing short of a requiem for my friend who is flying freely through the universe: hide."
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This prologue is very touching and honest, I'm sure many people feel something similar, myself included, and the symbolism(screw, rust, oil of hope) really spoke to me just now. Also, kudos to the translator. I have no idea if the translation is accurate, but it was written by a true poet!
Now I'm kinda sad... I'll have some chocolate ice cream :)
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helenmoon,
Thank you so much for your translation. There is just so much out there that I wasn't aware of. If it weren't for people like you, we would never know what all these words mean. I look forward to anything else you can give us from this book. <3
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helenmoon,
Thank you so much for your translation. There is just so much out there that I wasn't aware of. If it weren't for people like you, we would never know what all these words mean. I look forward to anything else you can give us from this book. <3
The book has been translated before and the link to it was posted by Aries above... :) http://hydeism.oxxy.com/X-Truth/Taiji-Book
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helenmoon,
Thank you so much for your translation. There is just so much out there that I wasn't aware of. If it weren't for people like you, we would never know what all these words mean. I look forward to anything else you can give us from this book. <3
The book has been translated before and the link to it was posted by Aries above... :) http://hydeism.oxxy.com/X-Truth/Taiji-Book
This is the same? http://xjapanfansforum.informe.com/x-no-sei-to-shi-uchuu-o-kakeru-tomo-e-dt244.html
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Hi everyone, have a nice Monday!
I didn't translate it myself, I simply found it on the site I linked which is this:
http://xjapanfansforum.informe.com/x-no-sei-to-shi-uchuu-o-kakeru-tomo-e-dt244.html
Thought it was nice to add the prologue which I couldn't find in the translation of the book...
...and... yes... it's touching... :P
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I don't know if it is the same translation but it sure is the same book. :P
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I don't know if it is the same translation but it sure is the same book. :P
Well, I appreciate helenmoon translating from the other site because this is what I get from the one you posted.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4705/25759101787_dbd40fe10d_c.jpg)
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Change your browser. It works for me from chrome. :) and she didn't translate it, she posted the translation (she already said that above) :D
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Change your browser. It works for me from chrome. :) and she didn't translate it, she posted the translation (she already said that above) :D
I use Chrome. That "translation" was done by Chrome.
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Keep correcting me, everywhere I go on this board. >:(
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The text on this link is in ENGLISH... I have no idea what you are translating... http://hydeism.oxxy.com/X-Truth/Taiji-Book The English translation is first, and then there is a Bulgarian translation of the same text. You only need to read the English LOL :D
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Keep correcting me, everywhere I go on this board. >:(
maybe because what you write sometimes makes no logical sense....
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Keep correcting me, everywhere I go on this board. >:(
maybe because what you write sometimes makes no logical sense....
Have you ever heard the saying "If you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything at all?"
Maybe you need to learn it!
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Keep correcting me, everywhere I go on this board. >:(
maybe because what you write sometimes makes no logical sense....
An ellipses has 3 periods, not 5. ;D
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The text on this link is in ENGLISH... I have no idea what you are translating... http://hydeism.oxxy.com/X-Truth/Taiji-Book The English translation is first, and then there is a Bulgarian translation of the same text. You only need to read the English LOL :D
My Chrome translates ENGLISH. SMH! ::)
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But you don't need to push the translate button on the top. Why are you using it? Just leave the page as is... Or if you have automatic translation turned on, turn it off in the settings. It's pretty simple.
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X NO SEI TO SHI: STEP 3
16. Yoshiki
It has been 16 years since I first met Yoshiki.
Yoshiki, the one who introduced me to X. Yoshiki, the one who made me quit X. Yoshiki has always been the one holding the key to my life. I think that perhaps he is the most intelligent person I have ever met.
He founded X with Toshi in Chiba's Tateyama City. Then obviously they advanced to Tokyo, and by the time anyone noticed, he had already sucked into his own band all the great names from the bands around him. Such great timing and his skill at choosing people could be called "genius."
After the five of us had joined X, we grew so quickly it was frightening. Yoshiki's musical conceptualizations flowed out shockingly one by one, and brought about such a pleasant feeling that I had never ever felt before. But at the same time, I wondered if I was the only one who thought that maybe we were trying to live a little too quickly…? With such a rapid speed, floating adrift, it was also repellant. Every day was both tense and uplifting.
The relationship between me and Yoshiki isn't something that I can speak about. So let me continue to give examples of how I see him.
He was a selfish, spoiled child but still lent an ear to the opinions of people around him; he was actually only worried about what happened to himself but still was a kind parent to others; he was innocent to anything outside music but he carried a kindness within himself; he was exceptionally proud, a sore loser, and a hard to like man.
Furthermore, he was an action man of foresight, and an idea man who would act upon even the most outrageous idea. If that could be put together easily, wouldn't we get a hardworking man, a legendary man, a very human, masochistic, sort of man?
If I try to put it like that, then to this day I think that because I also kept trying again and again to reach my goal, mightn't we be considered two people who greatly resemble each other?
The face of a beautiful angel and the face of a grieving devil. I believe that those two faces, so hard to live with, make up the human being that is Yoshiki.
I really like this description of Yoshiki by Taiji. I think he sums Yoshiki up pretty well.
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Agree, that is a very interesting description. Is it me or is Taiji one hell of a great writer? (assuming the book wasn't ghostwritten for him and that the translator didn't over embelish things). His writing is crisp, he sounds like someone who really kept his finger on the pulse of everything that was happening around him, kudos for Taiji!
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His writing is crisp, he sounds like someone who really kept his finger on the pulse of everything that was happening around him, kudos for Taiji!
yeah... that's why I posted his Prologue... because I read the translation of part of his book and found he had an interesting approach to things...
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A lot can depend on the translator, actually. You can completely change the style of writing. Recently, Han Gang's book, The Vegetarian got a lot of criticism for its English translation. A fellow Korean translator claims that the way it was translated into English makes up a completely different book altogether, because the style is just so different from the original. So unless you can read both the English and the original Japanese , it is difficult to tell whether it's Taiji's original writing style or the translator's. maybe lakeisle and sasasama would be able to compare the two. (Given they can find the Japanese text online).
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But you don't need to push the translate button on the top. Why are you using it? Just leave the page as is... Or if you have automatic translation turned on, turn it off in the settings. It's pretty simple.
One more time... I am not pushing buttons to translate anything. I am quite computer literate and probably a lot more than you are. There is a glitch in either my version of Chrome or something else to give me that result. Now, please, just leave me alone.
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Hi... so, you could't read the english translation of Taiji's book, isn't it?
In this case I could post it here for you, but as far as it's a way long I would like some admin to 'allow' me (it will take 4 o 5 long posts... perhaps more...)
Besos from Italy
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Hi helenmoon,
Teemeah was kind enough to copy the book and put it in a blog for me. I believe it's all there. I've been really busy and haven't had a chance to read it, yet, but I have checked it and it looks like it is probably all on there. Thanks, again! :)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRAIbnkl3Zo
This is a song written by Taiji commemorating hide(2000).
At the latter part of the song, Taiji's voice comes out.
It's so touching.
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Dear Friend,
I'm staring blankly,
White clouds beyond the horizon.
Erase sorrows with a splash of waves.
Erase the screams of my heart with the wild waves.
His smiling face floating in the sky.
His message... "I am flying around the universe freely"
I had such a dream.
I wanted to travel exploring the soul with you.
I wanted to build a bridge between music and music with you.
To my friend