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Offtopic => Offtopic => Topic started by: asymaverick on February 22, 2007, 10:51:37 AM
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its bit weird for me about things going on between toshi and yoshiki...i mean about their realtionship as friend...as you all mention they didn't talk to each other for a long time...i wonder how they felt about that...not talking to each other after becoming a friend for about 30 years...hmmm??
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somehow i still believe toshi wont record a new song with x japan eventhough i love to see he do that once again (toshi if you see this, would you record a new album with x japan?, please!)...
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its bit weird for me about things going on between toshi and yoshiki...i mean about their realtionship as friend...as you all mention they didn't talk to each other for a long time...i wonder how they felt about that...not talking to each other after becoming a friend for about 30 years...hmmm??
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somehow i still believe toshi wont record a new song with x japan eventhough i love to see he do that once again (toshi if you see this, would you record a new album with x japan?, please!)...
However they might have felt, I doubt they need your input on that.
On the second part of your post, I wonder why you'd think Toshi would agree to a reunion, but not on all that comes with it, including likely new recordings. Particularly since he has already said that he wants to include post break up experiences in the new X Japan.
And no need to ask Toshi for favours here; it's fairly save to assume he isn't reading it.
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its bit weird for me about things going on between toshi and yoshiki...i mean about their realtionship as friend...as you all mention they didn't talk to each other for a long time...i wonder how they felt about that...not talking to each other after becoming a friend for about 30 years...hmmm??
but,
somehow i still believe toshi wont record a new song with x japan eventhough i love to see he do that once again (toshi if you see this, would you record a new album with x japan?, please!)...
When Toshi is that far, that he said, he WILL go on stage with X again, he will also record new songs!
I mean - that they haven't talked for such a long time is a thing BECAUSE of their long friendship! In the past things happened which hurt both very deeply, and there was a big fear of both, that they finally may hate each other, when they would have talked to each other and this talks would have gone the wrong way!
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When Toshi is that far, that he said, he WILL go on stage with X again, he will also record new songs!
I mean - that the haven't talked for such a long time is a thing BECAUSE of their long friendship! In the past things happened which hurt both very deeply, and there was a big fear of both, that they finally may hate each other, when they would have talked to each other and this talks would have gone the wrong way!
Just FYI, Toshi said in his first interview - with Shukan Josei - that once they talked on the phone, they very easily became "the old Yoshiki and the old Toshi" in talking to each other.
I am glad that that happened and sad over the time it took for it to happen, but I think you have a point, Mav, when you say that there was a lot of worry about not finding a way to be friends again.
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why afraid not to become a friend again...i have my own band...and yeah im the one who founded my band...if i am in the situation the same with yoshiki and toshi and heath and pata and taiji(hide is already gone no need to mention about him)...i dont give a damn about losing them...wtf is not neccessary mean you are not in the same band so you cant become friend...where in this case they are use to be in the same band but not anymore so thats not mean they cant give a call to each other or hang out together every weekends...i think your idealogy is not right...they should contact with each other even after the disbanded of x japan...i will always remember my friend Zack eventhough he is not playing bass in my band anymore i mean he is out of the band yet i still hang out with him...
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Just FYI, Toshi said in his first interview - with Shukan Josei - that once they talked on the phone, they very easily became "the old Yoshiki and the old Toshi" in talking to each other.
I am glad that that happened and sad over the time it took for it to happen, but I think you have a point, Mav, when you say that there was a lot of worry about not finding a way to be friends again.
Oh thanks for telling me this. Well... anyways I think there was this fear... and nowadays, they may be could kick themselves for being so "stupid" having this fear LOL (did I mention that I'm f****n happy, that they're talking again to each other? xD)
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hahah yeah but its just silly and stupid...i guess their a rock star who is being over sensitive and emotional...hahah...anyhow i love them...dont misunderstood me... :)
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BTW: Yoshiki HASN'T really talked to Toshi after he said that he will leave X! Go and watch some interviews. Yoshiki will tell you this. And it's indeed different to your band.
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You can't compare your band and the way it is to X.
Like Yoshiki said in an interview..when he first listened to the DAHLIA album he started crying in the studio alone.
The interviewer said you actually cryed looking upon Yoshiki like a rock star like him shouldn't cry.
Yoshiki said "you would cry if you had been through the things we have.."
It was complex situation between Yoshiki and Toshi that people always try to understand and say why couldn't they talk.Well it's their business not someone elses.
well, i don't think that yoshiki cried because of toshi, dahlia was released in 1996, toshi told to yoshiki that he would leave in 1997 :S
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why afraid not to become a friend again...i have my own band...and yeah im the one who founded my band...if i am in the situation the same with yoshiki and toshi and heath and pata and taiji(hide is already gone no need to mention about him)...i dont give a damn about losing them...wtf is not neccessary mean you are not in the same band so you cant become friend...where in this case they are use to be in the same band but not anymore so thats not mean they cant give a call to each other or hang out together every weekends...i think your idealogy is not right...they should contact with each other even after the disbanded of x japan...i will always remember my friend Zack eventhough he is not playing bass in my band anymore i mean he is out of the band yet i still hang out with him...
To compare your stupid little as yet not even preproduction and very likely never going to make it mayor anywhere little band to X is preposterous.
On top of that, you are again displaying your SUPREME IGNORANCE about things related to X Japan, since again, obviously, you have no clue about the relationship Yoshiki and Toshi had.
You are REALLY trying my patience!
If you want to call yourself a serious fan, get informed! And until you are, STOP THE FLAMING HELL SPOUTING MEANINGLESS CRAP!!!
Is THAT message now getting into your thick skull!?
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To compare your stupid little as yet not even preproduction and very likely never going to make it mayor anywhere little band to X is preposterous.
Hahaha nice one PN, don't think he will show his face (:oops:) here for a while :lol:
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hahah how old are you PN...you act like little kid...too emotional...this is life where peoples talk what ever they like...so you better get up from your precious dream and face the reality!!
i am saying the truth about friendship...i dont think you know anything about real friendship because you are always sitting infront your pc monitor and dreams...how many time should i say im voicing out my true expression, feelings and opinoins...it come deep from my heart...so deal with it!!
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hahah how old are you PN...you act like little kid...too emotional...this is life where peoples talk what ever they like...so you better get up from your precious dream and face the reality!!
i am saying the truth about friendship...i dont think you know anything about real friendship because you are always sitting infront your pc monitor and dreams...how many time should i say im voicing out my true expression, feelings and opinoins...it come deep from my heart...so deal with it!!
Projecting own feelings and mental states onto others, Asymaverick?
If I were you, I would rather save dirty stuff about ages and their value, as you are absolutely no one to tell Panthere Noire that.
The rest of your accusations is just plain silly.
May I PLEASE ask you to take your meds and back off? Thank you very much.
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PN won't probably answer before tomorrow, but I can tell you that she's not a kid anymore, for quite a while anymore tbh... She is really not 'always sitting infront her pc monitor and dreaming'... If you would know the reasons for Toshi leaving the band and such maybe you'd understand why they didn't talk. And comparing your band, even if it would be the best known band in your town or even whole Malaysia, it's really not right to compare it with X.
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Projecting own feelings and mental states onto others, Asymaverick?
If I were you, I would rather save dirty stuff about ages and their value, as you are absolutely no one to tell Panthere Noire that.
The rest of your accusations is just plain silly.
May I PLEASE ask you to take your meds and back off? Thank you very much.
what's the problem of asking 'how old are you?' are you guys sick or crazy? i dont see any negative effect on asking that question...you cant deny PN is behaving over emotional...
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Maybe it would be better if you learned to quote only parts of the posts directly related to your ideas.
You did not ASK how old she is. You were patronizing about her age, and that is quite a difference.
Over emotional is an over used word when certain individuals do not have anything better to say.
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Projecting own feelings and mental states onto others, Asymaverick?
If I were you, I would rather save dirty stuff about ages and their value, as you are absolutely no one to tell Panthere Noire that.
The rest of your accusations is just plain silly.
May I PLEASE ask you to take your meds and back off? Thank you very much.
what's the problem of asking 'how old are you?' are you guys sick or crazy? i dont see any negative effect on asking that question...you cant deny PN is behaving over emotional...
Maybe, but you're acting just stupid. Do you actually think you know everything? How Yoshiki's and Toshi's relationship works?
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what's the problem of asking 'how old are you?' are you guys sick or crazy? i dont see any negative effect on asking that question...you cant deny PN is behaving over emotional...
Look into the mirror! You don't wanna tell us that you behave grown up, do you?
Somehow it seems to me rather that you haven't any idea about the friendship of Yoshiki and Toshi that YOU are talking about, when you want to say nearly every friendship is the same! Thats just superficial!
Then go to your superficial friends and hang out with them and don't bother us with your idea of real friendship, I for myself don't want to have a "pee in my pants" as friend, if you want to say this!
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hahah how old are you PN...
maybe this will make you open your eyes wider... :lol:
To compare your stupid little
You are REALLY trying my patience!
STOP THE FLAMING HELL SPOUTING MEANINGLESS CRAP!!!
Is THAT message now getting into your thick skull!?
this are all prove that PN is over emotional...
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Just shut up dick
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I for myself don't want to have a "pee in my pants" as friend, if you want to say this!
have you heard word metafore??
'pee in my pants' is one of them... :wink:
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this are all prove that PN is over emotional...
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She is overemotional just because you are acting like an arrogant idiot. Open your eyes, not everyone sees things like you and you CAN be wrong too.
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Just shut up dick
this dangle too is over emotional...muahhahha
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Asymaverick, talking about someone within their inpresence is considered impolite in most of the polite societies.
Preying on someone when they can't verbally defend themselves is an appropriate behaviour only for you and the likes of you, yet rest of the world is absolutely not curious about your so called impressions.
Let alone your flaming is totally useless and you're wasting my time.
Do yourself a favor and leave.
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have you heard word metafore??
'pee in my pants' is one of them... :wink:
First educate yourself how that M-word is actually spelled and then talk.
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She is overemotional just because you are acting like an arrogant idiot. Open your eyes, not everyone sees things like you and you CAN be wrong too.
i get your point...is there any rules here saying i cant say something pure that comes straight from my heart?? :?
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Yes. That rule is called: Do not talk your heart out if your heart is just full of garbage. You'd better adhere to that one, and not only on the Internet.
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have you heard word metafore??
'pee in my pants' is one of them... :wink:
First educate yourself how that M-word is actually spelled and then talk.
duh i did it on purpose...ok its metaphore...satisfy? :wink:
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Yes. That rule is called: Do not talk your heart out if your heart is just full of garbage. You'd better adhere to that one, and not only on the Internet.
you sure can become a teacher...wah so cool! :lol:
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You did not do it on purpose, and every one with ONE functioning neuron can see that.
Satisfied? Not quite. More so amused at your behaviour- can you write more of weird talks so I can laugh even more often? :wink:
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She is overemotional just because you are acting like an arrogant idiot. Open your eyes, not everyone sees things like you and you CAN be wrong too.
i get your point...is there any rules here saying i cant say something pure that comes straight from my heart?? :?
Just try not to come off as arrogant as you have now, try suggesting your own theory and not just come off and tell the ultimate truth, wich is the truth because you have it that way. It doesn't really work that way in the real world. You can still save your ass and start acting like the good boy you are. :wink:
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have you heard word metafore??
'pee in my pants' is one of them... :wink:
First educate yourself how that M-word is actually spelled and then talk.
duh i did it on purpose...ok its metaphore...satisfy? :wink:
Oh you mean this is already a METAPHOR?
Sorry - that's too flat - and not to forget... your pee in your pants is getting cold too quick and feels just shitty..
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Just shut up dick
this dangle too is over emotional...muahhahha
I called you Dick because I have a feeling you are called Richard :lol:
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Well, to me the problem seems to be communication here. I can understand asymaverick, because obviously he wasn't really informed enough about the emotional (and in some eyes spiritual) bond that they have, so he tried to compare it to something more close to home.
PN is not over emotional.. It's just that when you can't accept a person for who he or she is (emotionally in this case) that there tends to be a conflict. And that's because theres a difference in opinions because both parties are not equally informed.
hahah yeah but its just silly and stupid...[...] over sensitive and emotional...hahah...
I think you shouldn't speak too lightly about their relationship from now on. Don't laugh at how they did things and rather show some interest and query someone on how the person came to feel so strongly about other individuals, otherwise you just end up angering the person.
It's all just dealing with netiquette and having some social experience. I hope you two can jst settle down for now. It's hard for me to translate the stuff in my dutch head to understandable english on a forum :P
Oh by the way: You people talk too much haha, now my post is like.. over date. Oh well.
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You did not do it on purpose, and every one with ONE functioning neuron can see that.
and i think your neuron is not functioning because i did it in purpose... :wink: we are Malaysians love to talk in a short form metaphore=metafor=metafr, and=n, why=y, to or too=2
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You did translate your Dutch stuff pretty well, xScQ, thank you for that.
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Well, to me the problem seems to be communication here. I can understand asymaverick, because obviously he wasn't really informed enough about the emotional (and in some eyes spiritual) bond that they have, so he tried to compare it to something more close to home.
PN is not over emotional.. It's just that when you can't accept a person for who he or she is (emotionally in this case) that there tends to be a conflict. And that's because theres a difference in opinions because both parties are not equally informed.
hahah yeah but its just silly and stupid...[...] over sensitive and emotional...hahah...
I think you shouldn't speak too lightly about their relationship from now on. Don't laugh at how they did things and rather show some interest and query someone on how the person came to feel so strongly about other individuals, otherwise you just end up angering the person.
It's all just dealing with netiquette and having some social experience. I hope you two can jst settle down for now. It's hard for me to translate the stuff in my dutch head to understandable english on a forum :P
Oh by the way: You people talk too much haha, now my post is like.. over date. Oh well.
ok...just dont be myself huh?? Toshi will absolutely hate that...but yeah thx!
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And now I feel again cutting this conversation. Please, return to topic and discuss about X reunion, not about spelling mistakes and other things.
Thanks.
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EDIT: To the flamer:: First of all, you do not know ANYTHING about Toshi, and I'm seriously concerned your ability to type out his name is just a nature's mistake.
Secondly, I would really recommend you checking your ideas with some mental health professional, your delusions are funny but I'd rather not see you having them in real life, which, from the tone of the posts, is quite likely, do take good take of yourself and either get more real or at least pretend you can comprehend what all of the posters here are saying.
Edit Two, agreement with Orkrist, yet I think it would be better if this ENTIRE conversation was cut off in a more visible manner.
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do take good take of yourself
what do you mean by this??
pretend you can comprehend what all of the posters here
you mean like you?? :wink:
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Lights, you say everything that is meant to be bad about people in such a nice way. I really wish you would just snap and tell this guy to bend over and get fucked :lol:
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Well, to me the problem seems to be communication here. I can understand asymaverick, because obviously he wasn't really informed enough about the emotional (and in some eyes spiritual) bond that they have, so he tried to compare it to something more close to home.
PN is not over emotional.. It's just that when you can't accept a person for who he or she is (emotionally in this case) that there tends to be a conflict. And that's because theres a difference in opinions because both parties are not equally informed.
hahah yeah but its just silly and stupid...[...] over sensitive and emotional...hahah...
I think you shouldn't speak too lightly about their relationship from now on. Don't laugh at how they did things and rather show some interest and query someone on how the person came to feel so strongly about other individuals, otherwise you just end up angering the person.
It's all just dealing with netiquette and having some social experience. I hope you two can jst settle down for now. It's hard for me to translate the stuff in my dutch head to understandable english on a forum :P
Oh by the way: You people talk too much haha, now my post is like.. over date. Oh well.
ok...just dont be myself huh?? Toshi will absolutely hate that...but yeah thx!
I didn't say that. I'm just pointing out that there has been miscommunication between you two. I also tried to say that in order to avoid these conversations that end up in flame wars that you two should have just asked some more questions of interest (which in the real world would show that you are a polite gentleman) to figure out ones ideas of the subject you are involved with as well.
I didn't say not to be yourself, but if you think that trying to be polite = (equals) not being yourself than I guess you don't belong here. I told both of you that you need to let this rest from now on because it's all based on (literally) a tiny miscommunication/understanding of the relationship with two people (which would incidentally be linked to PN's emotional bond with Toshi and Yoshiki as well).
Just be yourself, and stop trying to give everything such a negative twist. I come in peace really. Like I said, I'm a nobody on the internet so you don't have to listen or take the advice. I'm not a preacher or trying to make you do anything.
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oh ok! :D PSV beats Arsenal...
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Now I'm starting to think that this guy is a troll.
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More than likely
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oh ok! :D PSV beats Arsenal...
Haha, PSV is not the one I'm rooting for though. It's AZ.
Ajax is sucking, even agains groups like Excelsior, and AZ is having a hard time against quality groups. PSV always is the laughing third.
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Is it just me who doesnt know what they are on about.....
Apart from Arsenal, which is a football team, or is it another team in some sport
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No, it's Football, but he was talking about the dutch teams.
AZ just played 2-2 against Fenerbahce which means we are through to the next round (in UEFA Cup).
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@.@ You're confusing me... wasn't even said something about keeping the topic?
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asymaverick they are not being over emotional they are sticking up for there opinion.When you make a topic like this you must except what other people say.
they are the one who did not except what i say...
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I understand what your saying but you also have to see from there point too.
how i can i do that when they all keep attacking me like crazy, hey im new here dont just simply attack me without even knows me...im a good boy!
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I know your new,and we/they are not attacking you.
err what make you said that...please read all their past comments...yes i have to make good impression, but still i dont know where is my bad expression here, its just come purely from my heart, saying the truth is a lot more meaningful than pretending...right?
p/s=you cant deny sometimes the truth hurts, but you still need to accept them...
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"when in rome act as a roman would!"
i stand with my own way and style, eventhough im at rome i will still be myself and not act as roman would...i was raise with our own culture and religion...i respect them (religion and culture) more than anything else...and i think you are alot different than me...
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Ok so then if you not agree with that saying..Say you went to Japan and you go to some ones house and not take your shoes off upon entering?
Or say you went to a monks temple and the sign say you must not talk or we kick you..you still talk? haha
haha...yes! :D
but that will never happen to me, because in Malaysia we enter our house and put our shoes outside just the same in Japan, second why would i go to tample?? got nothing to do with it, id rather go and jam for the whole week...
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haha there's no such place and things in this world, the worst thing i probably will get is perhaps like what you said in the temple...being kick out...that make sense but about a restaurant and shoot and die...you make me laugh :lol: , anyhow those will never happen to me, i have travel a lot with my family yet enjoying every moment of it... :P
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i have taek wan do and pencak silat(malay self defence)...im not afraid...come on! :twisted:
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Things that you know are truth, may not actually be truth. So watch out and don't post 'pure truth from your heart' before you are absolutley sure, that it's the truth. And if you are not sure then either ask politely, what other people think of the subject or just don't post it...
And as for the Roman thing- if you go to Rome and don't act like a Roman, it means you are uneducated egoistic woolhead. No one likes woolheads :P