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Title: D.T.R's influences
Post by: Hollywood on February 02, 2008, 07:36:08 PM
Only one DTR thread here?  That's got to be a crime.

So, now there are two. :P

Just curious, did any DTR members ever name any of DTR's musical influences?  I ask mostly because I'm curious if Mitsuo Takeuchi was consciously modelling his vocal style on Tom Keifer of Cinderella.  Actually to me DTR in general sounds a whole lot like a heavier version of Cinderella.  I'm guessing the band Tattoo Rodeo could have been an influence as well.  I also hear some Appetite for Destruction (GnR) in DTR, could be just me though...

As far as Japanese bands go, there were a lot of other Japanese metal bands that had a cowboy/motorcycle image at some point, but Wild Flag (with Kyoji Yamamoto of Vow Wow) in particular reminds me a lot of DTR.  Some of the photos in the first DTR album even look a lot like the photography in Wild Flag's self-titled album.

Anyway, I know there are a lot of Taiji fans here, so I'm curious what you all think and/or if there are any interviews where they talk about this kind of thing.
Title: Re: D.T.R's influences
Post by: VioletCamicat on February 03, 2008, 07:57:48 PM
Well, influences would be a good question. I know, that I just heard the beginning of a Bon Jovi song and first thought it was D.T.R. xD Somehow embarrassing. But the style of the guitar play was so similar to the D.T.R. acoustic tunes. And apart from this I also think, you can hear a lot of G'n'R. Mitsuo's style of singing actually reminded me of AC/DC - but I don't know Cinderella that good. :oops:

And about photos I also laughed, since:

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c53/camicat666/comparexD.jpg)

I wonder, if that was on purpose. I think it's cool! At least they don't look as dark as Motörhead. xDDD

EDIT: Oh and the look of G'n'R's Duff sometimes reminded me of Taiji's look as well! Preferably on that DVD I have. It's a gig in Tokyo Dome from '92 and Duff is just moving the same way and also wearing a cowboy hat, hehe.
Title: D.T.R's influences
Post by: Arucard on February 03, 2008, 10:31:38 PM
Could any of you guys PLEEEEASE scan some photos of D.T.R., or even the whole booklets, is possible? I have only one or two pics from the group, and I'd love to see some more...

And I believe these Bon Jovi songs VioletCamicat talked about are "Wanted Dead Or Alive" and "Blaze Of Glory"... They really remind me of D.T.R. as well... ^^

I don't think Wild Flag was and influence on D.T.R., because if I'm not mistaken they were formed around the same time... They do sound similar to each other, though...
Title: D.T.R's influences
Post by: Hollywood on February 03, 2008, 10:39:43 PM
Nice Motorhead comparison!  I laughed too-- if it's not on purpose then it's really an amazing coincidence. ;)

Here are some others; I think whoever designed the first DTR album's cover must have seen this Tattoo Rodeo one...
(http://www52.tok2.com/home/dancertf/dirtytrash.jpg) (http://www.rathole.com/search/album_img/2259.jpg)

Wild Flag:
(http://www.bowwow-kyoji.jp/museum/muimg81.gif)

One of Wild Flag's albums:
(http://www52.tok2.com/home/dancertf/daringjk.jpg) (http://i.listen.jp/img/dl/jk/170/0371000000310_170.jpg)

And I think Wild Flag was slightly before DTR, I have the first Wild Flag album (self-titled) and it says 1992.

Totally agree with you guys about Wanted Dead or Alive and Blaze of Glory (would be cool if DTR covers those someday).  I agree about AC/DC too.

And since you like glam metal and sleaze rock Camicat (Arucard too?), you might like Cinderella.  They're a blues-influenced hair band, like a cross between Poison and Great White.  They don't look that much like DTR but they used to look a lot like the glam Blue Blood Taiji.

I don't have any DTR scans on my computer, but if no one else has any either then I'll dig out my scanner and scan some booklets for you Arucard. :)
Title: D.T.R's influences
Post by: Maverick on February 04, 2008, 08:24:56 AM
Cinderella are cool... and I can't help - everytime I see or think of that band i have to think of Yoshiki and the 'Celebration' PV... though that's just because of the name. (actually, the PV itself reminds me to Twisted Sister's 'I wanna rock')

Well, Taiji then was much into Glam Metal so there are similarities, yes.

But I also agree that since D.T.R is closer to Motörhead, AC/DC and such.

And i think i need to listen to Wild Flag... LOL  :roll:
Title: D.T.R's influences
Post by: VioletCamicat on February 04, 2008, 04:29:32 PM
Quote from: "Arucard"
Could any of you guys PLEEEEASE scan some photos of D.T.R., or even the whole booklets, is possible? I have only one or two pics from the group, and I'd love to see some more...

And I believe these Bon Jovi songs VioletCamicat talked about are "Wanted Dead Or Alive" and "Blaze Of Glory"... They really remind me of D.T.R. as well... ^^


Yeah! You're right! At least with "wanted - dead or alive"! So I didn't hear wrong - cool! xD

And feel free to snoop through my photobucket.  :wink:
http://s25.photobucket.com/albums/c53/camicat666/Taiji/DTR-Taiji/

Also if you like to see the other folders - just feel free.
But I didn't upload all, I still have more on my computer.  :oops:


Quote from: "Hollywood"
And since you like glam metal and sleaze rock Camicat (Arucard too?), you might like Cinderella. They're a blues-influenced hair band, like a cross between Poison and Great White. They don't look that much like DTR but they used to look a lot like the glam Blue Blood Taiji.

I don't have any DTR scans on my computer, but if no one else has any either then I'll dig out my scanner and scan some booklets for you Arucard.  :)


xD Well, then I should give them a try, I guess. Now I'm curious. Could you suggest some special LP or sth first? When I'm not wrong, they're also pretty long in business, so there might be some more LPs than just three or four. xD

And really nice comparisons as well, I gotta say! That's so hilarious somehow! They all steal!  :twisted:

Do you by chance have this one video from D.T.R? I cannot find it anywhere and just once saw it on eBay. I so damned wish to see that!!!  :shock:


Quote from: "Maverick"
(actually, the PV itself reminds me to Twisted Sister's 'I wanna rock')


You don't mean "We're not gonna take it" by chance? :wink:
Title: D.T.R's influences
Post by: Arucard on February 04, 2008, 06:34:25 PM
I'm also dyin' to get my hands on D.T.R's "Drive To Revolution" video... I have some small pieces of it, that a russian (or french, can't really rememeber... xD) friend of mine recorded for me... It seems the whole band was having a lot of fun in that concert...

@Hollywood: Yes, I'm a fan of Glam Rock, but I never listened to Cinderella... The name kinda scared me a little... xD Gonna check it out know after your description... ^^

And you're also right about Wild Flag... I only have their albuns on my computer, but I was checking out the dates and they're really a little older than D.T.R... They might be an influence on D.T.R... They do sound a little similar to each other, even though I think Wild Flag's sound is closer to Bow Wow then to D.T.R... Kyoji rules...  :twisted:
Title: D.T.R's influences
Post by: Maverick on February 04, 2008, 07:28:58 PM
Quote from: "VioletCamicat"
Quote from: "Maverick"
(actually, the PV itself reminds me to Twisted Sister's 'I wanna rock')


You don't mean "We're not gonna take it" by chance? :wink:


Ooops yes  :oops: So, why does the guy has to tell his daddy 'I wanna rock!' >////< blah e.e~
Title: D.T.R's influences
Post by: Hollywood on February 04, 2008, 07:44:39 PM
Quote from: "VioletCamicat"

And feel free to snoop through my photobucket.  :wink:
http://s25.photobucket.com/albums/c53/camicat666/Taiji/DTR-Taiji/

Also if you like to see the other folders - just feel free.
But I didn't upload all, I still have more on my computer.  :oops:


Wow!  Thanks for posting that link, that's just... amazing.  I swear I've never seen so many Taiji photos in one place, lots of rare ones I've never seen before too.  You have a very impressive collection (especially since that's not even all of them)!

Quote from: "VioletCamicat"

xD Well, then I should give them a try, I guess. Now I'm curious. Could you suggest some special LP or sth first? When I'm not wrong, they're also pretty long in business, so there might be some more LPs than just three or four. xD


I forget how many albums they have, but if you want to try them out I think their greatest hits album (it's called "Once Upon A...") is not a bad place to start-- warning, there are many power ballads, but even their ballads are pretty good since they often have a country/blues feel.  Or if you want a real LP, I like "Long Cold Winter".  Or if you just want to try a few songs, I recommend "Hot and Bothered", "Shake Me", "Gypsy Road".

@Arucard, yeah I totally agree, the name is really a "what the hell?", haha.  I have no idea why they called themselves that since the music has nothing to do with princesses as far as I can tell. :P

Oh, and add me to the list of people who want that "Drive to Revolution" video.  I've been searching and haven't found one yet...

About that Celebration PV, among the '80s hair bands I remember a LOT of videos that are something about the band coming to rescue to a young fan from some boring situation.  Both of those Twisted Sister videos you guys mentioned, for sure.  Also:

Cinderella - Shake Me: A girl's bitchy sisters won't take her to the Cinderella concert, and if I remember correctly, the band picks her up in a limo.  Something like that.

Ratt - Round and Round: No kid in this one, but Ratt crashes (literally...) a fancy dinner party and one of them is dancing down the table like Taiji.
Title: D.T.R's influences
Post by: VioletCamicat on February 04, 2008, 09:33:00 PM
Quote from: "Arucard"
I'm also dyin' to get my hands on D.T.R's "Drive To Revolution" video... I have some small pieces of it, that a russian (or french, can't really rememeber... xD) friend of mine recorded for me... It seems the whole band was having a lot of fun in that concert...

You have pieces of that video? :shock:  Please can I see them somewhere? *fanatic*
I even don't know pieces. The only live tunes I know are from the Drive To Revolution album (and without video naturally :roll:) and just some tiny pieces in that promotion clip they had about one year ago (and there only video with no live acoustic, but just one of the studio songs on it).


Quote from: "Hollywood"

Wow!  Thanks for posting that link, that's just... amazing.  I swear I've never seen so many Taiji photos in one place, lots of rare ones I've never seen before too.  You have a very impressive collection (especially since that's not even all of them)!

:oops:  Just call me manic about this. It just started with the fact, that Taiji became my favorite, but it was so hard to find pictures, so... yeah.. *coughes* I feel like a psycho, when I take a look into my Taiji folder. :?

Quote from: "Hollywood"

I forget how many albums they have, but if you want to try them out I think their greatest hits album (it's called "Once Upon A...") is not a bad place to start-- warning, there are many power ballads, but even their ballads are pretty good since they often have a country/blues feel.  Or if you want a real LP, I like "Long Cold Winter".  Or if you just want to try a few songs, I recommend "Hot and Bothered", "Shake Me", "Gypsy Road".

Woooh! xD Thank you very much, that should be good hints for me to start! ;) I'll have an eye (and naturally one or two ears :P) on it.


Quote from: "Hollywood"

About that Celebration PV, among the '80s hair bands I remember a LOT of videos that are something about the band coming to rescue to a young fan from some boring situation.  Both of those Twisted Sister videos you guys mentioned, for sure.  Also:

Cinderella - Shake Me: A girl's bitchy sisters won't take her to the Cinderella concert, and if I remember correctly, the band picks her up in a limo.  Something like that.

Ratt - Round and Round: No kid in this one, but Ratt crashes (literally...) a fancy dinner party and one of them is dancing down the table like Taiji.

O.o; How do I actually get some sleazy band to pick me up? It doesn't have to be a limo at all. I'm modest - some Harleys would do it as well! I'd take the backseat then and put my arms around.. err.. forget it.  :twisted:

xD It's so fun to compare all these bands. You see a video you've never seen before and just think "Wait! Isn't this..? No... is it?". Same with the sound of the songs, as mentioned before. :D But somehow - similar as many might be - I don't think it's boring. It's still fun!
Title: D.T.R's influences
Post by: Arucard on February 04, 2008, 10:40:15 PM
Well, kinda off-topic, but I don't think it's necessary to create a new topic here for this, so:

Taiji's short bass solo from "Drive To Revolution" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3m1S6QcwHM)

Here's one of the little pieces from the video I have... This is the small solo he plays when Mitsuo Takeuchi is 'introducing' the band members... On the "Drive To Revolution" album there's a live version of "So What", and there you can listen to this bass solo...

I have more small pieces, from "So What", "Dirty Winner", "Be Free" and "Side By Side"... I'm gonna try to put those together and put them up in Youtube as well... ^^
Title: D.T.R's influences
Post by: Hollywood on February 05, 2008, 07:09:10 PM
Quote from: "VioletCamicat"

:oops:  Just call me manic about this. It just started with the fact, that Taiji became my favorite, but it was so hard to find pictures, so... yeah.. *coughes* I feel like a psycho, when I take a look into my Taiji folder. :?


I don't think it's psycho, tons of people collect (for example) hide or Yoshiki pics.  Hey, SOMEONE has got to archive the Taiji photos!  It seems he is gaining some popularity lately, online anyway-- or maybe I'm just lucky to find all you Taiji fans in one place-- but I remember a time when nearly all the online X fans I knew were into X Japan, especially the ballads and stuff, and many of them had little or no idea who Taiji even is... I swear I even remember times when they'd see photos of Blue Blood X and say "wow, Heath looks really weird"... :P

Well, anyway, I enjoy seeing different/rare Taiji photos, so if you someday decide to upload more I'll surely take a look. :)

Quote from: "VioletCamicat"

O.o; How do I actually get some sleazy band to pick me up? It doesn't have to be a limo at all. I'm modest - some Harleys would do it as well! I'd take the backseat then and put my arms around.. err.. forget it.  :twisted:

xD It's so fun to compare all these bands. You see a video you've never seen before and just think "Wait! Isn't this..? No... is it?". Same with the sound of the songs, as mentioned before. :D But somehow - similar as many might be - I don't think it's boring. It's still fun!


Hmm, why am I not surprised you'd rather sit behind one of those guys on a Harley than all alone in the backseat of a limo? ;)

Yeah, I enjoy spotting influences too-- personally I don't care if bands "copy" each other, nothing is truly original anyway so it's just a matter of what elements they take from other bands and how they put it together into something new.  Another comparison that always jumps out at me are those huge light-up Xs that X used to have on stage... just like KISS' huge light-up KISS.  (Maybe we should make a new thread for spotting X's influences?)

@Arucard, you rock!!  That Taiji bass solo is awesome, so glad you uploaded it.  I'd love to see the rest of your small DTR pieces if you put them up.
Title: D.T.R's influences
Post by: Arucard on February 05, 2008, 07:48:00 PM
Quote from: "Hollywood"
@Arucard, you rock!!  That Taiji bass solo is awesome, so glad you uploaded it.  I'd love to see the rest of your small DTR pieces if you put them up.


I was trying to put all these pieces together in one little movie, and then put it up in Youtube, because some of the pieces are really small, like 5 or 6 seconds long, and I don't wanna upload them all one by one... If I don't manage to do this then I'm gonna put at least the bigger pieces out there... Maybe someone who has the full video watches these pieces and decide to put a video of an entire song on Youtube...  8)
Title: D.T.R's influences
Post by: VioletCamicat on February 06, 2008, 09:39:57 PM
Quote from: "Arucard"
Well, kinda off-topic, but I don't think it's necessary to create a new topic here for this, so:

Taiji's short bass solo from "Drive To Revolution" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3m1S6QcwHM)

Here's one of the little pieces from the video I have... This is the small solo he plays when Mitsuo Takeuchi is 'introducing' the band members... On the "Drive To Revolution" album there's a live version of "So What", and there you can listen to this bass solo...

I have more small pieces, from "So What", "Dirty Winner", "Be Free" and "Side By Side"... I'm gonna try to put those together and put them up in Youtube as well... ^^


OMG! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!
This is really the first time I've seen that! Wow! And it's even a bass solo! I'm really impressed! I know that live song only without video. Awww!!!

I'm really looking forward to other pieces! Thank you for sharing that! <3


Quote from: "Hollywood"
I don't think it's psycho, tons of people collect (for example) hide or Yoshiki pics.  Hey, SOMEONE has got to archive the Taiji photos!  It seems he is gaining some popularity lately, online anyway-- or maybe I'm just lucky to find all you Taiji fans in one place-- but I remember a time when nearly all the online X fans I knew were into X Japan, especially the ballads and stuff, and many of them had little or no idea who Taiji even is... I swear I even remember times when they'd see photos of Blue Blood X and say "wow, Heath looks really weird"... :P

Well, anyway, I enjoy seeing different/rare Taiji photos, so if you someday decide to upload more I'll surely take a look. :)

Yeah, I think it isn't psycho unless I don't print out every single piece I can find and put it on my walls as wallpaper. xD (I'm not sure, but I guess I'd stalk him, if I lived in Japan! :twisted: I'm so nosy all the time!)

Quote from: "Hollywood"
Hmm, why am I not surprised you'd rather sit behind one of those guys on a Harley than all alone in the backseat of a limo? ;)

^_____________^ Well... (:oops: Actually that would be really awsome! ... just one of my little daydreams... hehe.. *becomes nervous*)

Quote from: "Hollywood"
Yeah, I enjoy spotting influences too-- personally I don't care if bands "copy" each other, nothing is truly original anyway so it's just a matter of what elements they take from other bands and how they put it together into something new.  Another comparison that always jumps out at me are those huge light-up Xs that X used to have on stage... just like KISS' huge light-up KISS.  (Maybe we should make a new thread for spotting X's influences?)

I don't care as well, as long as it is still also own creation. If too much is copied in a too simple way, it becomes boring, I guess. When you can spot out, that someone is just too lazy to make his own thing and wants to earn money with the idea of others, it's just... ridiculous then. But most of the "copies" I know are somehow... they're still an own thing - well just influenced, but own creations/interpretations. And with those I'm fine! :D
Title: D.T.R's influences
Post by: RoseOfPain on February 06, 2008, 10:54:02 PM
Quote from: "Arucard"
Well, kinda off-topic, but I don't think it's necessary to create a new topic here for this, so:

Taiji's short bass solo from "Drive To Revolution" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3m1S6QcwHM)

Here's one of the little pieces from the video I have... This is the small solo he plays when Mitsuo Takeuchi is 'introducing' the band members... On the "Drive To Revolution" album there's a live version of "So What", and there you can listen to this bass solo...

I have more small pieces, from "So What", "Dirty Winner", "Be Free" and "Side By Side"... I'm gonna try to put those together and put them up in Youtube as well... ^^
thanks for sharing :D
great solo once again! :D
Title: D.T.R's influences
Post by: Hollywood on February 09, 2008, 09:18:28 PM
So I was listening to Whitesnake the other day, and they have a song called "Walking in the Shadow of the Blues".

DTR's "Dirty Winner" has the lyrics "I'm jammin' in the shadow of blues."

Purposeful Whitesnake reference?
Title: D.T.R's influences
Post by: Arucard on February 09, 2008, 09:30:43 PM
Quote from: "Hollywood"
So I was listening to Whitesnake the other day, and they have a song called "Walking in the Shadow of the Blues".

DTR's "Dirty Winner" has the lyrics "I'm jammin' in the shadow of blues."

Purposeful Whitesnake reference?


Never had payed attention to that before... I don't think D.T.R sounds like Whitesnake, but I'm sure some of the members from D.T.R must like Whitesnake, so it could be a reference...
Title: D.T.R's influences
Post by: VioletCamicat on February 10, 2008, 02:31:40 PM
Hm, could be on purpose, but could also be just a coincidence - hard to say. xD

Btw: While talkin about lyrics - can someone help me a little bit to get a clue what Mitsuo is actually singing about? Is there a value in a special topic the lyrics have? :oops: It's pretty hard for me to understand most of the lyrics, since english isn't my native language and Mitsuo's english anyways isn't that clear like the english of a native speaker.
(And no, I have no booklets. :oops: I would have at least one, but the nice german delivery service frequently screws up in my case! :evil:)
Title: D.T.R's influences
Post by: Arucard on February 10, 2008, 04:20:13 PM
Yeah, I'd like to take a look at some D.T.R's lyrics too... I also have no booklets at hand, and I'm not a native english speaker as well... ^^
Title: D.T.R's influences
Post by: VioletCamicat on February 10, 2008, 06:46:51 PM
Quote from: "Arucard"
Yeah, I'd like to take a look at some D.T.R's lyrics too... I also have no booklets at hand, and I'm not a native english speaker as well... ^^


So anyone, who will help us? *blinks unconspicuously at Hollywood*
...

:D
Title: D.T.R's influences
Post by: Hollywood on February 10, 2008, 08:42:55 PM
Who... me? 8)

Well, I've got Dirty Trashroad, Daring Tribal Roar, and Drive to Revolution (CD not video)-- the original CDs, with booklets and everything-- and coincidentally, by the end of the week I should have Acoustic and the new single too (finally tracked them down!).

Unfortunately my scanner is... uh... it's a little screwed up and I don't know if I can make it work, sorry guys.  But-- and I think this is better anyway, since the lyrics in the booklets are sometimes hard to read (the words are printed over photos sometimes)-- would you guys like me to type out some DTR lyrics for you?  Just let me know which songs.  Or if you want ALL OF THEM :twisted:, that's cool too, I can try to do one song a day or so.

And don't feel bad about not understanding Mitsuo's singing, I'm a native English speaker and I can't understand all of it either.

About DTR's lyrics in general, Mitsuo writes most of them, but some are written by JURIA (I don't know who that is).  In the credits at the back of the booklet, someone named Suzi Kim is credited for "English Lyrics", so I suspect that Mitsuo (and JURIA I guess) writes in Japanese and then this Suzi Kim translates them into English.  The lyrics are always given both in English and in Japanese in the booklets, though of course it's always the English version that Mitsuo actually sings.  Also, the English lyrics are (as far as I can tell) not always exact literal translations of the Japanese version.

As for what the lyrics are about... well, it's pretty much what you'd expect really.  Dirty Trashroad is mostly like "we're wild and free motorcycle cowboys and if you don't like it then fuck off", with various American and Christian (!) references and maybe a little American Indian spirituality here and there.  Daring Tribal Roar is sort of random by comparison but still has various Wild West references.  The English lyrics in general range from OK to really quite good.  Mitsuo (or Suzi Kim?) sometimes comes up with some very original and vivid images-- many of them with, again, a Wild West theme-- and the word choice and sentence structure usually sounds pretty convincingly "American West".

Well, OK, that got long.  Anyway, if you guys want me to type up some DTR English lyrics for you, just let me know which songs you want most and I'll start there.
Title: D.T.R's influences
Post by: Arucard on February 10, 2008, 09:27:51 PM
Quote from: "Hollywood"
Or if you want ALL OF THEM :twisted:, that's cool too, I can try to do one song a day or so.


That would be kinda nice...  :twisted:

About this JURIA... I have a scan of the back of Acoustic, and he's credited for the lyrics of "Circle Of Nations"... "First Small Song" and "Towards Red Earth"'s lyrics are credited to JURIA & GO...

Now... Correct me if I'm wrong, but... These are instrumental tracks... O.O
Title: D.T.R's influences
Post by: VioletCamicat on February 10, 2008, 09:56:36 PM
Quote from: "Arucard"
Quote from: "Hollywood"
Or if you want ALL OF THEM :twisted:, that's cool too, I can try to do one song a day or so.


That would be kinda nice...  :twisted:

About this JURIA... I have a scan of the back of Acoustic, and he's credited for the lyrics of "Circle Of Nations"... "First Small Song" and "Towards Red Earth"'s lyrics are credited to JURIA & GO...

Now... Correct me if I'm wrong, but... These are instrumental tracks... O.O


o_o Yeah, they are instrumental! So they got lyrics? :shock: Cool, they should make some new releases!!! :twisted:

@ Hollywood: Well, I don't wanna let you get overworked or waste time. :shock: I mean.. all would be great, but, I guess that's too heavy!

As for the information about the lyrics so far: Thank you! I'm not really surprised now - better to say relieved, hehe. And about the christian contexts I also already wondered a little bit - for instance Apocalypse seems in my opinion (from what I can understand) pretty christian.
Damn it! I'm atheist! :twisted:
All in all really nice contexts - perfectly fits to my imagination then. :D

And suggestions for writing up would be in my case:
Cybernetic Crime
So What
Kill Trap (:shock: Does he really sing "I'm gonna rape you"? I mean, really charming voice in the beginning, but... ouch! :?)

Oh and about the English lyrics: The Acoustic album has a very cute half English/half Japanese version of Empty Room! ;)
(I mean, it really sounds somehow cute after only having heard the English version, hehe.)
Title: D.T.R's influences
Post by: Hollywood on February 10, 2008, 10:26:52 PM
Quote from: "VioletCamicat"

@ Hollywood: Well, I don't wanna let you get overworked or waste time. :shock: I mean.. all would be great, but, I guess that's too heavy!


Well I don't intend to do them all at once of course ;), but if you guys don't mind waiting, I can get to all of them eventually (like, one every couple of days, something like that).  Lately I have more time than usual (I don't always), so yeah.

Quote from: "VioletCamicat"

Damn it! I'm atheist! :twisted:

Yeah, well I'm agnostic! :twisted:  And atheist on certain days.

Quote from: "VioletCamicat"

Kill Trap (:shock: Does he really sing "I'm gonna rape you"? I mean, really charming voice in the beginning, but... ouch! :?)


Yeah, and also "you're gonna rape me", so I guess the listener will make him "ouch!" too. :P

Can't wait 'til my Acoustic arrives...

Oh yeah, JURIA gets credit for these songs on the first two albums:
Apocalypse
Kaleidoscope
Voices From the Dead

In Dirty Trashroad, Circle of Nations has some Japanese lyrics (or a poem? I thought it was instrumental too) printed on its page in the booklet, but the credits say Mitsuo did all the lyrics other than Apocalypse.  So, I don't know what's going on with Circle of Nations...
Title: D.T.R's influences
Post by: Arucard on February 11, 2008, 12:43:57 AM
Kinda offtopic, but still on the lyrics subject... Are the lyrics from "Voiceless" as good as "Voiceless Screaming"? It sounds just as good to me, but I can't understande the lyrics at all... Are they at least similar to "Voiceless Screaming"?

I'm a catholic... *whistles*
Title: D.T.R's influences
Post by: Maverick on February 11, 2008, 08:38:57 AM
Quote from: "Arucard"
Kinda offtopic, but still on the lyrics subject... Are the lyrics from "Voiceless" as good as "Voiceless Screaming"? It sounds just as good to me, but I can't understande the lyrics at all... Are they at least similar to "Voiceless Screaming"?

I'm a catholic... *whistles*


Voicless's lyrics are completely different.. Anyway, Mitsuo wrote it as far as I know, and that seems to be a story about someone who have been left alone by his love... err... I guess I need to listen to it again >.>
Title: D.T.R's influences
Post by: VioletCamicat on February 11, 2008, 12:54:30 PM
>_< Damn it! I found an old bookmark in one of my backups, which was about D.T.R.-lyrics, but unfortunately the site isn't available anymore! *grrr* :evil:  I hate it, when things like that happen and I was too stupid to just copy the page content! ARRGH!!! >O<;;;
Title: D.T.R's influences
Post by: Arucard on February 11, 2008, 11:50:23 PM
Quote from: "Maverick"
Quote from: "Arucard"
Kinda offtopic, but still on the lyrics subject... Are the lyrics from "Voiceless" as good as "Voiceless Screaming"? It sounds just as good to me, but I can't understande the lyrics at all... Are they at least similar to "Voiceless Screaming"?

I'm a catholic... *whistles*


Voicless's lyrics are completely different.. Anyway, Mitsuo wrote it as far as I know, and that seems to be a story about someone who have been left alone by his love... err... I guess I need to listen to it again >.>


Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was Mitsuo who wrote the lyrics for "Voiceless"... As far as I understood the lyrics, they seem to talk about a guy whose loved one has died, or something like that... But I'm just taking a guess here...
Title: D.T.R's influences
Post by: Arucard on March 07, 2008, 11:56:36 PM
Going back to the original subject of this topic, guess I just discovered another D.T.R influence here... I mean... Listen to this song and tell me it's not D.T.R-ish:

Jacks 'N' Joker - Makeinu ~Fuck Them Up~ (http://www.4shared.com/file/40151161/4e2f4a18/03_-_JnJ.html?dirPwdVerified=a5062b80)

Jacks 'N' Joker was a Heavy Metal group formed in 1988 or 1989 by former Gastunk guitarist, Tatsu. They released three albums: "Shuffle And Deal" (1989), "Jacks 'N' Joker" (1990) and "Inside Outlaw" (1991). Lead singer of the group was Nixx, the bass player was Rady, and the drummer was Ume-Chan. Here's some pics of them:

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e396/Erocard/12.jpg)

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e396/Erocard/11.jpg)
Title: D.T.R's influences
Post by: VioletCamicat on March 08, 2008, 01:19:54 AM
Hey, Taiji had the same shirt like the left guy on the second pic! |D

Uhm, the link doesn't work really for me and as far as I know we shouldn't share outside the share section anyway, right? @,@
Title: D.T.R's influences
Post by: Arucard on March 08, 2008, 12:57:53 PM
Damn! I forgot about this sharing thing again...  :shock:

But my intention was not actually sharing... I just posted that song here so you guys could compare it to D.T.R... Well, I fixed the link, but if this can't really be posted here just let me know and I'll remove it...
Title: D.T.R's influences
Post by: VioletCamicat on March 08, 2008, 01:36:13 PM
Quote from: "Arucard"
Damn! I forgot about this sharing thing again...  :shock:

But my intention was not actually sharing... I just posted that song here so you guys could compare it to D.T.R... Well, I fixed the link, but if this can't really be posted here just let me know and I'll remove it...


Ah, I think that way it's okay. :)

And I only was able to hear the beginning - no clue why, but my browser was complaining about a runtime error. =_=
Well, however - what I've heard was really not bad! 8)
Title: D.T.R's influences
Post by: Hollywood on March 08, 2008, 07:19:14 PM
Jacks'n Joker!  They were pretty cool, I have their self-titled album.  I hadn't previously thought of them as sounding like DTR but I'll take another listen and see.  For sure they seem like the kind of thing Taiji might be into, though.

I never knew they had a Gastunk connection, that's really interesting.

And heheh, yeah, Taiji does have that exact shirt.  Though I guess it's not that weird since a lot of guys in the glam metal scene wear Lip Service brand stuff, Bret Michaels (Poison) in the Unskinny Bop video has the pants for example.  (But not the exact ones that the Jacks'n Joker guy on the far right does... little bit different.)

Another possible DTR influence: The Cult?  English band, hard rock with some Native American themes.
Title: D.T.R's influences
Post by: VioletCamicat on March 08, 2008, 08:01:02 PM
Lip Service brand??? :shock: Uhm... yummy?
But yeah, it seems to be not so unique between all the rockers, hehe.
Title: D.T.R's influences
Post by: Hollywood on March 08, 2008, 08:43:12 PM
Quote from: "VioletCamicat"
Lip Service brand??? :shock: Uhm... yummy?

Yes, very. :twisted:  Well, they've gotten more goth and fetish-y now... I liked when it was more rock'n'roll, but they've still got some of that too, so it's cool.
http://www.lip-service.com/

There's also a fairly well-known (I think?) photo of Taiji from the Jealousy days with a Lip Service t-shirt.  He's sitting down with his right hand on the floor and his left hand on top of his head, wearing a jean vest with a ripped black t-shirt under it-- I can't find that photo now, but anyway, you can see "LIP S" on the shirt before the rip.
Title: D.T.R's influences
Post by: VioletCamicat on March 08, 2008, 11:05:08 PM
Quote from: "Hollywood"
There's also a fairly well-known (I think?) photo of Taiji from the Jealousy days with a Lip Service t-shirt.  He's sitting down with his right hand on the floor and his left hand on top of his head, wearing a jean vest with a ripped black t-shirt under it-- I can't find that photo now, but anyway, you can see "LIP S" on the shirt before the rip.

Hm... yeah... yummy! 8) Woah! He's so hot, his T-shirt burns (what a lame joke :P)!
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c53/camicat666/Taiji/X-Taiji/TaiTaiX3.jpg)

Interesting site btw. - but really confusing. I didn't really get the navigation there. Maybe a blonde moment again, who knows. :?
Title: D.T.R's influences
Post by: Arucard on March 09, 2008, 12:27:30 AM
Quote from: "Hollywood"
Jacks'n Joker!  They were pretty cool, I have their self-titled album.  I hadn't previously thought of them as sounding like DTR but I'll take another listen and see.  For sure they seem like the kind of thing Taiji might be into, though.


Well, to me their third album, "Inside Outlaw", is the one which sounds more like D.T.R... I have to listen to their self-titled album again to see if it really sounds like D.T.R as well... But to me Nixx voice is pretty similar to Mitsuo at some moments...
Title: D.T.R's influences
Post by: Hollywood on March 10, 2008, 08:39:58 PM
Quote from: "VioletCamicat"
Interesting site btw. - but really confusing. I didn't really get the navigation there. Maybe a blonde moment again, who knows. :?

In that case I'm having a blonde moment too (and I'm not even blonde)-- I can't figure it out either. :P  I thought it was just me, or just my bad connection, heheh.

And somehow I knew you'd know which pic I meant... that is really, really a great photo of him. :twisted:

I listened to my Jacks'n Joker self-titled album and... huh.  Maybe once every now and then it sounds like DTR, but overall I didn't think so (sorry!).  Probably it's only Inside Outlaw that has that sound, I guess.
Title: D.T.R's influences
Post by: VioletCamicat on March 10, 2008, 09:49:11 PM
Quote from: "Hollywood"
And somehow I knew you'd know which pic I meant... that is really, really a great photo of him. :twisted:

You know, actually I'm somewhat relieved that the pic ends early enough below. :twisted: And I could slap myself for that shallow comment now, haha! Sometimes I'm a sexist, but I think that's just R'n'R!

Ahem... back to topic! *sweats* I don't know why, but sometimes I was thinking of if The Rolling Stones could also be an influence. Not that obvious maybe, but since both - The Rolling Stones and D.T.R - can be kind of bluesy... aaah, I don't know, just an idea.
Title: D.T.R's influences
Post by: Arucard on March 11, 2008, 12:11:06 AM
Quote from: "VioletCamicat"
You know, actually I'm somewhat relieved that the pic ends early enough below. :twisted: And I could slap myself for that shallow comment now, haha! Sometimes I'm a sexist, but I think that's just R'n'R!


Hahahahaha... :mrgreen:

About Jacks 'N' Joker... I guess only that song I posted really sounds D.T.R-ish... Maybe I was just too amused by that fact to name them as an obvious influence... But to me they're still a probable influence...  8)

And about The Rolling Stones... Well... Who hasn't been influenced by them?  8)
Title: D.T.R's influences
Post by: Hollywood on March 11, 2008, 10:39:56 PM
Quote from: "VioletCamicat"
[You know, actually I'm somewhat relieved that the pic ends early enough below. :twisted: And I could slap myself for that shallow comment now, haha! Sometimes I'm a sexist, but I think that's just R'n'R!

I'd say you don't need to feel so guilty about it-- after all, I don't imagine he would have posed like that if he really hated the idea of fans checking him out.  Band members in purposely sexy poses = R'n'R too. 8)

And I must agree with Arucard about the Stones, heheh.

Another one I think no one's mentioned yet: The Eagles?  I mean, if the Eagles ever for some reason decided to go heavy metal, that'd be DTR right there. :P
Title: Re: D.T.R's influences
Post by: OmniaDei on November 16, 2019, 06:43:11 AM
Quote from: Hollywood
Or if you want ALL OF THEM :twisted:, that's cool too, I can try to do one song a day or so.

That would be kinda nice...  :twisted:

About this JURIA... I have a scan of the back of Acoustic, and he's credited for the lyrics of "Circle Of Nations"... "First Small Song" and "Towards Red Earth"'s lyrics are credited to JURIA & GO...

Now... Correct me if I'm wrong, but... These are instrumental tracks... O.O

My personal fan theory is that JURIA is TAIJI himself. The songs that JURIA got credited for kinda give a hint. Plus if you've heard a bit of TAIJI's personal life around the time of DTR you might also be able to guess why I came to that conclusion :)

Even if it's not TAIJI himself, my guess would still be that this is someone very close to TAIJI that he hired to be credited for under that name.