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The band => General chat => Topic started by: Teemeah on December 26, 2017, 02:51:57 PM
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X Japan will perform at "NHK WORLD presents SONGS OF TOKYO". They are scheduled for broadcast as follows:
January 1, 2018 (Mon) 7:10 (JST) Cornelius, MIYAVI, Perfume, X JAPAN
https://www.nhk.or.jp/songsoftokyo/
NHK World can be watched live at https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/live/
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Message from X Japan: youtu.be/2f4rVsPRq6w
and Toshi is not looking like a disco ball :D wow!
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There's this question that hit me years ago and that has been nagging me ever since. Why do they always have to pose and walk in that particular formation? As in, Yoshiki in the middle, Toshi to his left, Pata to his right, lead guitar guy on the far left and bass player on the far right.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/X_Japan_2014.jpg/1200px-X_Japan_2014.jpg
http://chasefaster.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/X-JAPAN-VISUAL-KEI.png
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ICf2Kjn_U0s/maxresdefault.jpg
http://jrock247.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/JRock247-X-Japan-We-Are-X-Tower-Records-2017-KA1_0204.jpg
http://loudwire.com/files/2016/10/X-Japan-12.jpg
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/c10-aoki-x-japan-d-20141010.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Lf_PoKTAMwQ/VRouy8F7K1I/AAAAAAAACfQ/lED0AKmSkkA/s1600/hide-x-japan-last-live-hide-xjapan.blogspot.com.jpg
That's some really Illuminati shit.
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bands usually do such stuff in Asia. In KPOP for example, it is also a pattern, that certain members have their fixed positions when doing interviews.
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Message from X Japan: youtu.be/2f4rVsPRq6w
and Toshi is not looking like a disco ball :D wow!
Thanks for that message from X. Toshi looks so tiny against that wall but so good out front singing. I just love his voice, no matter what he's singing and in what genre or style. 8)
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bands usually do such stuff in Asia. In KPOP for example, it is also a pattern, that certain members have their fixed positions when doing interviews.
Weeeeeeeeird. What happens if Pata gets the center spot? New world order?
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I think it's just a thing that people can remember band names better, because they always see them in the same order. Not that X needs this but it's a thing over there. Asian societies like order. And no way Pata would ever get center spot. Center spot is for the band leader. If you notice, they also mimic their stage positions here, Yoshiki in center with the drum kit, Toshi next, lead guitar on the left side of the stage, rhythm guitar and bass in the right side of the stage. They have also never permanently changed their stage positions, I have never seen Pata on the other side of the stage, only maybe for a second of position shifts during concert, 99% of the time they stand in fixed directions on the stage, and sometimes they come to the front for 30 seconds :D It's a thing. I don't think anything is wrong with having a fixed order of things. It makes things feel stable.
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Man, this reminds me of liturgical paintings. And the whole bullshit they taught us in Sunday school about how the Virgin always had to hold Jesus to her left or else it would be unholy or whatever.
Hail Yoshiki full of grace, our Lord is with thee.
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bands usually do such stuff in Asia. In KPOP for example, it is also a pattern, that certain members have their fixed positions when doing interviews.
Weeeeeeeeird. What happens if Pata gets the center spot? New world order?
Yes. :P
Everyone in X Japan will suddenly feel the urge to just play guitar, drink Jack Daniels, pet some cats and stay in the background. Nothing will ever be the same anymore.
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and Heath might actually get to SPEAK *gasp* :o
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There's this question that hit me years ago and that has been nagging me ever since. Why do they always have to pose and walk in that particular formation? As in, Yoshiki in the middle, Toshi to his left, Pata to his right, lead guitar guy on the far left and bass player on the far right.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/X_Japan_2014.jpg/1200px-X_Japan_2014.jpg
http://chasefaster.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/X-JAPAN-VISUAL-KEI.png
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ICf2Kjn_U0s/maxresdefault.jpg
http://jrock247.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/JRock247-X-Japan-We-Are-X-Tower-Records-2017-KA1_0204.jpg
http://loudwire.com/files/2016/10/X-Japan-12.jpg
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/c10-aoki-x-japan-d-20141010.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Lf_PoKTAMwQ/VRouy8F7K1I/AAAAAAAACfQ/lED0AKmSkkA/s1600/hide-x-japan-last-live-hide-xjapan.blogspot.com.jpg
That's some really Illuminati shit.
Or even recreating old pics. (But hey, I liked it)
https://imgur.com/a/lTEo4
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Woah, no way. That looks like a group before and after photo of What Not To Wear.
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That photo could be titled:
BEFORE: metal rebels that changed Japanese society
AFTER: bunch of old dudes who think black leather is all the rage
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Something I gleaned from the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f4rVsPRq6w that's not mindless talk about standing position or fan-fic level speak is the fact that...
1) Yoshiki spoke in English for almost the entire video. Keep in mind, this is a Japanese station for a Japanese event on New Year's Day.
2) Yoshiki restates that they broke up 10 years ago, had drama/hardships, and now back together to achieve "their dream". This is essentially what they were saying 7-8 years ago. Interesting again how it's being said in ENGLISH on a Japanese station. This is almost purposefully done for Western audiences or fans who are following them. It's like a retake at what they tried to do years ago.
3) Yoshiki practically confirmed future tours "we're going to be around the world for the future".
4) Pata does does not look that great at all. Keep in mind, they've got makeup on and their hair is all done as if it were for a show; he still looks in rough shape. I have to wonder if half of Yoshiki's lamenting about his surgery is again due to Pata's health holding them back from performing. It was only recently Yoshiki tweeted about starting to drum again, "I don't know how long it will last" (somewhat true but mostly to stir the drama pot).
Just what I gathered from the video. Felt like this forum needed some actual discussion again :)
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Thanks for the link.
Yes, I think this short interview is definitely for the oversea fans. Why on earth was English used in a Japanese program? But, all the thing Yoshiki said was the same old thing, which has been told 1000+ times. Nothing new. ::)
As for Pata, he didn't look good on the video. But, I do notice that he didn't age as good as the others since some years ago. Not sure if it's because of his heath or it's just his normal look nowadays?
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Something I gleaned from the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f4rVsPRq6w that's not mindless talk about standing position or fan-fic level speak is the fact that...
1) Yoshiki spoke in English for almost the entire video. Keep in mind, this is a Japanese station for a Japanese event on New Year's Day.
2) Yoshiki restates that they broke up 10 years ago, had drama/hardships, and now back together to achieve "their dream". This is essentially what they were saying 7-8 years ago. Interesting again how it's being said in ENGLISH on a Japanese station. This is almost purposefully done for Western audiences or fans who are following them. It's like a retake at what they tried to do years ago.
3) Yoshiki practically confirmed future tours "we're going to be around the world for the future".
4) Pata does does not look that great at all. Keep in mind, they've got makeup on and their hair is all done as if it were for a show; he still looks in rough shape. I have to wonder if half of Yoshiki's lamenting about his surgery is again due to Pata's health holding them back from performing. It was only recently Yoshiki tweeted about starting to drum again, "I don't know how long it will last" (somewhat true but mostly to stir the drama pot).
Just what I gathered from the video. Felt like this forum needed some actual discussion again :)
This program will be broadcast on NHK World TV, which is NHK's ENGLISH language TV with fully English programming :D And the whole Songs of Tokyo is intended for international audiences, because it is to promote the Olympics. :)
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What I learnt from this video (when on mute, without Yoshiki's distracting voice):
* Pata is dozing off
* Toshi must be practicing that stance in front of the mirror. The "I-want-to-look-cool" stance.
* Toshi and Sugizo actually understand Yoshiki's English, they nod at the right places. Heath and Pata have no f--ing idea what is being said --- not like they would care anyways
* Heath looks like he really doesn't want to be there, not understanding the English anyways, he is like "how much longer do I need to stand here? Where do I put my hands? Wonder what's for dinner tonight... Did I close the window when I left home...? Yocchan shut the f up already, I need to pee. Iiiii neeed toooo peee." (Heath always looks like he doesn't actually want to be there, at any kind of event they need to attend together. Like, it bothers him or something. And Pata is always like "whatevs.... ")
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* Heath looks like he really doesn't want to be there, not understanding the English anyways, he is like "how much longer do I need to stand here? Where do I put my hands? Wonder what's for dinner tonight... Did I close the window when I left home...? Yocchan shut the f up already, I need to pee. Iiiii neeed toooo peee." (Heath always looks like he doesn't actually want to be there, at any kind of event they need to attend together. Like, it bothers him or something. And Pata is always like "whatevs.... ")
I've been noticing this for a while. If you watch the last concerts, Heath is always so uncomfortable. Even Pata runs around the stage, and Heath looks like "I'm paid to play bass and I will stay right here playing the bass for three hours". He barely moves from his spot. What happened to him?
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I wouldn't be surprised if he had had enough already. I mean, these guys barely ever get the chance to do anything but be a breathing background to Yoshiki, who does all the talking and stuff. Even Toshi looks like he is bored out of his mind standing there. I wouldn't be surprised if they were all there just because of contractual obligations. :(
Heath looked happy and fine during the summer concert series, though :) he was also very energetic there, interacting with the audience and stuff. So this may all be just winter blues maybe. ( I feel you Heath, I also hate winter).
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Yoshiki is drumming again... https://www.instagram.com/p/BdUf8d6g89N/
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I wouldn't be surprised if he had had enough already. I mean, these guys barely ever get the chance to do anything but be a breathing background to Yoshiki, who does all the talking and stuff.
Yeah, I'll be repetitive and say once again that I miss when they were a band and not "THE AWESOME SUPERSTAR YOSHIKI and these other guys on stage with him".
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To be fair, I don't see them complaining. Or quitting. :) So as long as they are fine with that.... I'm sure they are paid very nicely, so they rather stay than go. :)
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Yoshiki posted on Instagram that he could play drums on Kouhaku
https://www.instagram.com/p/BdXo6DAAz4V/?taken-by=yoshikiofficial
Kouhaku, as does Songs and Music Station, uses playback for the instrumental part of the songs. Only the vocal is actually live.
Anyway, for Yoshiki, even in this case is something good. Shows he is recovering well.
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Did you all catch the performance, last night? They did 2 songs, La Venus and Hero. I recorded it but I am waiting to see if they upload it or the TV station does because I will probably get a strike on my account and a notice to pull it down. LOL!
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Yeah I watched it. Toshi is recently doing this thing at the end of the high notes he cannot produce anymore, that he sounds like he swallowed a rusty nail (haha) and tries to cough it back up. I literally have no idea why they wouldn't lower the key a little for him so he could sing comfortably.
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I saw and heard that, yet he was able to sustain a high note in the other song but for a much shorter time. Boy, that made me cringe. Not that I was mad with him or anyone else for that matter. I just hate it that he can no longer hit those high notes and hold it. Sad, really. Yet he surprised me on Hero. Maybe he's to the point where sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. I do hope he's not upset about it but I would imagine he is. Poor guy. I just love his voice.
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I wouldn't be surprised if he had had enough already. I mean, these guys barely ever get the chance to do anything but be a breathing background to Yoshiki, who does all the talking and stuff.
Yeah, I'll be repetitive and say once again that I miss when they were a band and not "THE AWESOME SUPERSTAR YOSHIKI and these other guys on stage with him".
THIS, I mean, kind of. Though, the last time they were a band, it was in 1997 and it was 'the fairly good looking, as per eastern standards, guy on drums' + 'the funky looking guitar guy' + ' the guy who went nuts and broke up the band' + 'the other two'.
Now we have 'The Superawsome English-Speaking Superstar' + 'the guy who sings' + the others.
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Yeah Heath and Pata never really got to talk or do anything but I guess they are also the type who don't really like talking. Unless you give Pata a few bottles of booze, then he won't stop. LITERALLY. I was watching this new year's eve live streaming on Yoshiki's channel and at first Pata was like who the f cares, I'm just coming because I was told to, and then he gulped down two beers and four glasses of wine in the 20 minute ride on the bus from the NHK building to the livestream studio (Sugizo, too, btw, was asking for refill quite a few times, while the rest, INCLUDING Yoshiki, were still on their first glass of wine by the time the bus stopped). Then during the livestream Pata drank several more glasses of wine, one after the other, while Heath was basically just clutching his initial fill and sat there like a doll, Pata was almost nonstop talking, except for when Yoshiki was feeling like it was his time to speak :D really, I haven't seen Pata talk SO MUCH ever. LOL. BOOZE. GIVE'EM BOOZE. ;D
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Poor Pata :( I really like that guy. He can rock out as well as anyone else. Probably can blow away my ex husband's playing as well. Maybe some of the way he acts on stage or anywhere else is caused by depression? My ex was depressed quite a bit of the time before we moved in together, then married. He acted a lot like that on stage but sometimes a lot worse. Just stared down at the strings, never looked at the crowd and never spoke.
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We know virtually nothing about Pata but if he's depressed then he's been depressed since 1980. I'm an introvert myself and I know people can make all kinds of strange assumptions about introverts. Maybe he's not sad nor depressed nor bored but actually pretty happy to be there, just not willing to expose himself that much. Some people sit front row, others always choose to sit at the back.
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I never knew one of you attended the Songs of Tokyo event! You should've repped the forum while you were on your soapbox about how gloriously wonderful Yoshiki is - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJzxlToYyHA
Half kidding but this woman at the start of the video is so cringe and it's a major issue with this community; the hosts think she's bat shit crazy, the crowd are silently holding in laughter at her, even Yoshiki is looking at her like "wtf...".
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I'm at work so I could only watch it with the sound off. Oh yeah, that lady sure looks intense. 8)
I attended three We Are X 'premieres' here in France and yup, French fans can get very intense, I tell you. The last time around a young woman with a stuffed animal (or a Hide doll or whatevs) fell out of her seat and loudly cried her eyes out during that sequence about Hide's death. A couple sitting beside me, both clutching their Yoshikitties (yeah, they probably have an interesting sex life), loudly cried as well. I like weird stuff but that was a little too weird for me.
Unrelated, but I was doing some PR work at Japan Expo here back in June and all I know is that at some point I was helping the staff carrying a young lady in a cosplay outfit having a bad asthma attack of some sort. We made her lay down somewhere and prepared to call an ambulance. A friend of hers catched up and stopped us in time. She wasn't sick. She had just caught a glimpse of a her favourite j-celebrity and that made her too emotional to function.
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Yeah that girl was cringe-worthy. I was like holy jesus please stop your blabber and let X play already. I'm a HUGE fan of X and Yoshiki in particular but I would never do this kind of ass-licking. Even Yoshiki looked like he was seriously uncomfortable listening to her. These kind of fans give a bad name to fandoms. This is not fangirling, this is obsession. It's a different kind of thing. These are the fans that end up stalking celebrities to the point of breaking into their homes and sending crazy stuff to celebs' significant others. The Kpop fandom is also full of these batshit stalkers, it's an Asian kind of thing. I mean, we have celebrity stalkers of Western celebrities, too, but they are kind of far and few between. Asian stars, on the other hand have literally thousands of these ..... No wonder none of them want to expose their private lives. You might find an unknown woman taking a shower in your bathroom or a GPS device under your car (both happened with Kpop stars, true stories).
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I'm glad that video was uploaded so now I don't have to upload mine. LOL. That blonde was definitely cringe worthy and did keep blabbering on and on about Yoshiki until I was about to puke. I was like "enough already!"
We do have stalker type fans here in the US. Adam Lambert is one of the people that comes to mind. Some of his fans are so obsessed with him it's shocking and scary. They will rip you a new one if you dare say one tiny thing that they don't approve of and if you do respond to one of them in any kind of negative way, 20 of them come out of the woodwork and attack you on the net.
I used to think he was great as a new front man for Queen but his fans have driven me off him and made me dislike watching or listening to him anymore.
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My mom always said, if you think you love someone to the point of not seeing a single flaw in them, then you're not in love with them, you're obsessed with them. Ever since, I make it a point to tell my SO that despite her being amazing in all ways, she still has terrible morning breath. 8)
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My mom always said, if you think you love someone to the point of not seeing a single flaw in them, then you're not in love with them, you're obsessed with them. Ever since, I make it a point to tell my SO that despite her being amazing in all ways, she still has terrible morning breath. 8)
Hahahahahahaha! Your mom made a great point, there. That's very true. ;D
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https://youtu.be/IIRc_bN-CMI
Hero sounds amazing
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Yeah hero was amazing. But what did Toshi do during La Venus? It's getting too high for him somehow. He is clearly struggling.
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Everyone looked embarrassed by that girl.... ;D
On the other side, I think she was just too excited to see X.
Toshi sounded ok in this performance, but we hardly see Pata, Heath and Sugizo. Wait, was Sugizo there?
I need to watch it again.
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Yes, he was dramatically playing on the neck of his guitar (they weren't even plugged in ROFL). This was Yoshiki and Toshi ft. co. for half a minute. :D LOL. I wonder how much they get paid for a half a minute playback gig.
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My mom always said, if you think you love someone to the point of not seeing a single flaw in them, then you're not in love with them, you're obsessed with them. Ever since, I make it a point to tell my SO that despite her being amazing in all ways, she still has terrible morning breath. 8)
:) Hope you don't tell her every single morning! But wow, that's very wise, what your mom said there,so true.
The performance didn't do much for me, but at least they keep on coming together every once in a while.
On Heath or Pata not participating in interviews or Heath looking uncomfortable on stage, just going through the motions: Playing music for a living isn't always fun. I think when you're in a band that isn't very productive anymore (and doesn't develop songs/arrangements together in rehearsal anymore), it becomes more of a routine(like in normal jobs), and you don't always have a say in which gigs to do.
On the other hand, when you're a musician, you wanna be successful and able to make a living, so you better think twice leaving a successful retro act for a new project, probably leading to a 95% salary cut. Fake-performing new material you hate on a tv show for a few hundred bucks per day sure as hell beats being at the office from 9 to 5 for a few hundred bucks a month! But I totally get how it 's an ambiguous experience.
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Yeah i guess I am also a little harsh here because musicians are also people. They can have bad days, "I don't wanna get up and do that" kind of days, they can also be under the weather or have mood swings. Heath looked really happy and energetic during the July concerts, he was exchanging know-it-all cute smiles with Toshi during the performance and he smiled a LOT generally. Even Pata looked happy as fuck. So it's probably just one of those days when you hate your job and want to crawl back in bed instead of spending a looong night being a bioscenery piece behind a parading Yoshiki on national TV. :) We all have highs and lows, and I really cannot expect celebrities to always appear happy and positive, when they don't feel like it.
aww, I just wanna hug Heath now and fluff his hair.
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aww, I just wanna hug Heath now and fluff his hair.
Not sure he'd respond well to that ;D
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He might love it. Who knows? Maybe all he needs is a pretty gaijin woman to keep him happy. Heath-kun, I can also cook Japanese food! (just in case he might read this. ya never know.)
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https://youtu.be/IIRc_bN-CMI
Hero sounds amazing
What the fuck is this france woman about? Whats wrong with her?
Maybe its the wrong place, but I liked Cornelius very much.
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He might love it. Who knows? Maybe all he needs is a pretty gaijin woman to keep him happy. Heath-kun, I can also cook Japanese food! (just in case he might read this. ya never know.)
...and you think you are this pretty gaijin woman? ;D
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He might love it. Who knows? Maybe all he needs is a pretty gaijin woman to keep him happy. Heath-kun, I can also cook Japanese food! (just in case he might read this. ya never know.)
But I thought he can't speak english?
*Sound of dream shattering*
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To me during the interview, Pata looked like he was listening very carefully. Maybe he could understand some of what was being said and trying to understand the rest of it?
That woman in the audience at the performance was a huge turn off and acted like an idiot. lololololol
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Yeah hero was amazing. But what did Toshi do during La Venus? It's getting too high for him somehow. He is clearly struggling.
I think he was also forcing it too high there when he messed up because his voice cracked on the high notes. I lost it, myself, when he did. I felt bad for him. What a disappointment that probably was for him. :'(
ETA: No, he can hit those higher notes but he often sounds like he's out of breath. Not that he can't hit the notes but that maybe he can't take deep enough breaths at times. Not always but sometimes.
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We know virtually nothing about Pata but if he's depressed then he's been depressed since 1980. I'm an introvert myself and I know people can make all kinds of strange assumptions about introverts. Maybe he's not sad nor depressed nor bored but actually pretty happy to be there, just not willing to expose himself that much. Some people sit front row, others always choose to sit at the back.
One photo and for Christmas but Pata does not look good, here. I remember, he got sick and had a heart issue. Maybe meds and what happened to him at that time make him subdued or something?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRqZMm9UMAAINGz.jpg)
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He might love it. Who knows? Maybe all he needs is a pretty gaijin woman to keep him happy. Heath-kun, I can also cook Japanese food! (just in case he might read this. ya never know.)
...and you think you are this pretty gaijin woman? ;D
You think I'm not pretty? :P
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He might love it. Who knows? Maybe all he needs is a pretty gaijin woman to keep him happy. Heath-kun, I can also cook Japanese food! (just in case he might read this. ya never know.)
But I thought he can't speak english?
*Sound of dream shattering*
Body language is pretty much enough, I have a friend who married her Turkish sweetheart without speaking each other's languages. They used google translate to chat bwahahha. They've been married for 8 years now (and learnt those languages :P). I'm pretty quick in picking up a new language, and Japanese is on my bucket list anyways :D ahahah. You see, nothing is impossible :D
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Pata looks pretty okay to me. He never looked like a prepubescent teen, unlike Hide & Co. And I bet he's not getting monthly botox and yearly plastic surgery. Nor does he wear an inch-thick layer of makeup. Also, doesn't seem the type who likes to rehearse his photo pose in front of the mirror for hours. So yeah, our ol' man Pata looks quite okay. 8)
As for Heath, I bet you can lock that dude in a room full of pizza, ice cream and a harem of pretty virgins, he still won't budge. Has anyone read that passage in Yoshiki's biography about his 'job interview' to join X? The dude showed up hungover, didn't seem all that impressed about the position he was being offered and played hard to get for weeks before he agreed to join them. Heath is stoicism personified.
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He might love it. Who knows? Maybe all he needs is a pretty gaijin woman to keep him happy. Heath-kun, I can also cook Japanese food! (just in case he might read this. ya never know.)
...and you think you are this pretty gaijin woman? ;D
You think I'm not pretty? :P
;D that was not exactly what I ment ;)