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The band => General chat => Topic started by: returner on January 14, 2016, 12:28:46 PM
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Very cool! Before anyone complains about the other members not being there I'll give my 2 cents:
If I've never heard of a band like most people in the states have never heard of X Japan, I will give absolutely no shits about what members I see on a movie poster promoting said band's music I've never listened to.
But this poster is simple and mysterious. No bombardment of faces that confronts me with whether or not I know them. The only figure there is shrouded in shadow. As a passerby, I can't tell who he is because his identity isn't even offered. My focus, then, shifts directly to what he does- he plays the drums. The stage itself is the focal point in this poster, the drama of the live show. And that's a great introduction to X Japan. It's just a very smart, thoughtful way to promote the documentary imo.
I also just think stylistically, the colors and the image itself is really just so cool and movie like. You can tell there's a real concept to the film.
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"Music by X Japan, composed by Yoshiki"? It would really be a shame if the movie doesn't contain hide or Taiji songs.
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"Music by X Japan, composed by Yoshiki"? It would really be a shame if the movie doesn't contain hide or Taiji songs.
It's impossible to tell things like that without watching the film. But this is a documentary, not a discography. The biggest, most recognizable songs will be the ones mentioned and Yoshiki happened to compose those.
hide and Taiji... I mean, there's no band without them. But do I think Desperate Angel is going to get played? No. Even as a diehard fan I don't listen to that song really. Voiceless Screaming might, but only because it chronicles how insane the recording process is for Toshi's voice, the type of demand placed on him. Shows how grueling X is as a business.
Celebration definitely has a shot to be in the movie. But Joker? I don't know. It's not one of the handful of songs people think of when you say "X Japan."
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The biggest time of X Japan , when they really were being a band, is that time between, idk, 1987-1992?!? In my opinion, at least. After that came Art of life, and the songs Dahlia and Tears, but not much else.
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My potential concerns :
The 2 added small Xs that subtlety make it a love letter signature to fans that is most likely a Yoshiki cheesy touch indicating that he must have had a say regarding the movie's direction and hence, could be sappy and self serving as hell.
Subtitle The Death and life of X-japan, in that order certainly predicts a big focus on the 2008+ period.
Not a Japanese movie so I wouldn't expect much in terms of in depth analysis on their overall career.
In the end, a big infomercial to try and gather some attention for their upcoming album and possible tour that follows.
Obviously, we haven't seen it yet and could be greatly surprised.. Let's hope.
A docu by Sam Dunn a la flight 666 would be amazing
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Oh, fuck. As I see, the movie would be more and more of "I AM YOSHIKI TEH MOTHERFUCKING LEADER OF X JAPAN and these are my underlings".
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Oh, fuck. As I see, the movie would be more and more of "I AM YOSHIKI TEH MOTHERFUCKING LEADER OF X JAPAN and these are my underlings".
That's what I really hope won't happen!!! >_< But yeah, somehow it seems to become more and more likely...
What's bugging me more is that
1) the "premiere at XDAY" won't be one anymore... -_-
and 2) the We are X Film Facebook page started deleting every comment that's "critical".
At first, the page admin actually replied to the fans, saying something like "the other members are IN the movie!" But suddenly those replies and every comment, that wasn't super excited, was suddenly deleted!
I'm sorry, but what the hell? o_O They weren't rude or offensive comments - censoring the fan's opinions is pretty rude, though!
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I was hoping for a documentary spanning their whole career, like "Foo Fighters-Back and forth" or "Tom Petty - Runnin' down a dream", but I guess it will focus very much on the reunion. Not too bad, either, just hope the filmmakers told Yoshiki that it's a movie, not an opera and made their own thing.
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Is there a running time for the film yet? When I see how long it is, then I'll worry.
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92 Minutes.
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My potential concerns :
The 2 added small Xs that subtlety make it a love letter signature to fans that is most likely a Yoshiki cheesy touch indicating that he must have had a say regarding the movie's direction and hence, could be sappy and self serving as hell.
I totally read it as a play on words for XXX, an ode to sex, drugs, and rock&roll. I thought, "oh an American definitely made this," haha.
the We are X Film Facebook page started deleting every comment that's "critical".
At first, the page admin actually replied to the fans, saying something like "the other members are IN the movie!" But suddenly those replies and every comment, that wasn't super excited, was suddenly deleted!
I'm sorry, but what the hell? o_O They weren't rude or offensive comments - censoring the fan's opinions is pretty rude, though!
Hate to say it but a lot of X fans are assholes to the band and especially Yoshiki. The band is trying to break out overseas and getting shit on by their own fanbase is not good PR nor inviting to new fans discovering the band now. Even if they weren't rude or offensive... what good does any type of negative comment do for a band on one of its OFFICIAL promotional pages? It's not like the WeAreXfilm FB was made as a fan forum by fans, it's a DOCUMENTARY PROMOTIONAL PAGE.
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92 Minutes.
Thank you, I couldn't find it for the life of me with this slow internet. Well, I think that's a bit short but that's just my personal whining-seems to be standard time for a documentary nowadays (hell if it was 3 hours I'd be totally ok).
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Hm, the cover art is not something I like very much to be honest, hopefully the whole documentary won't be to Yoshiki-centric and every member of the band (also the deceased ones) will get it's fair amount of screentime. But maybe it's too early to judge somethink like that only be seeing the cover ... but I'm sceptic.
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Yeah let's hope for the best regarding the actual movie. LOL
However, judging the COVER by the cover....is totally fine IMO. ;P
Also, I actually find all the creepy "<3 <3 <3 YOSHIKIIIIII YESSS WE ARE XXXXXX!!!! FOREVER!!!!!" comments way worse than a comment saying "Beautiful poster, but I'd have prefered a cover with the whole band and the fans on it to match the movie's title". Fangirly spam messages are very off-putting no matter which fandom and certainly won't help either. -_-
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Also, I actually find all the creepy "<3 <3 <3 YOSHIKIIIIII YESSS WE ARE XXXXXX!!!! FOREVER!!!!!" comments way worse than a comment saying "Beautiful poster, but I'd have prefered a cover with the whole band and the fans on it to match the movie's title". Fangirly spam messages are very off-putting no matter which fandom and certainly won't help either. -_-
Yeah those kinds of comments are legitimately terrifying.
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Yeah let's hope for the best regarding the actual movie. LOL
However, judging the COVER by the cover....is totally fine IMO. ;P
Also, I actually find all the creepy "<3 <3 <3 YOSHIKIIIIII YESSS WE ARE XXXXXX!!!! FOREVER!!!!!" comments way worse than a comment saying "Beautiful poster, but I'd have prefered a cover with the whole band and the fans on it to match the movie's title". Fangirly spam messages are very off-putting no matter which fandom and certainly won't help either. -_-
Finally someone who understands how I think.
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Also, I actually find all the creepy "<3 <3 <3 YOSHIKIIIIII YESSS WE ARE XXXXXX!!!! FOREVER!!!!!" comments way worse than a comment saying "Beautiful poster, but I'd have prefered a cover with the whole band and the fans on it to match the movie's title". Fangirly spam messages are very off-putting no matter which fandom and certainly won't help either. -_-
And where did you see those exactly? Because if you're talking about the facebook page, there are none. This forum tries so hard to hate, seriously.
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See, not a single fangirly " YOSHIKIIIIII YESSS WE ARE XXXXXX!!!! FOREVER!!!!!" comment... anywhere... You're choosing to see what you want and for some weird reason twist it around to the Yoshiki fandom. I'm starting to think the "We are X!" and "Love it!" comments just too optimistic for some people ::)
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What the hell. That was a general comment - amd obviously slightly exaggerated - but go an twitter and you will see what I mean. And seriously, I am the last person spreading hate - I've been running a fanpage for Years and never gave up hope on X or Yoshiki but actually defended them quiet a bunch of times! sorry but not finding anything absolutely awesome doesnt equal to twisting stuff around lol! the only thing I have to add to this is that being too involved and knowing too much doesn't help with keeping a positive image of them, but I'm still here and hopeing for the best. -_-
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Sorry, I thought you were referring specifically to the Facebook page. Since there aren't any fangirly comments there, it seemed like a weird thing to point out.
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Found an article that gives a more in-depth description of the film:
Kijak gets to the emotional core of the band’s key members, eschewing fluff for a deeper consideration of the impact music has had on their lives – and, in return, on those of their legion of fans. While chronicling X Japan’s present-day tour success, the film gradually and effortlessly turns the clock back to reveal the group’s surprising and often tragic history – smartly opening up the story for viewers who may never before have heard of the flamboyant musicians.
http://whatnottodoc.com/2016/01/08/2016-sundance-docs-in-focus-we-are-x/
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This forum tries so hard to hate, seriously.
I feel many people on this forum have a pretty balanced view on what X is doing nowadays. I really like that talk isn't too serious and ultra-excited here. I was on XWonderland Forum, that was the opposite.
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See, not a single fangirly " YOSHIKIIIIII YESSS WE ARE XXXXXX!!!! FOREVER!!!!!" comment... anywhere... You're choosing to see what you want and for some weird reason twist it around to the Yoshiki fandom. I'm starting to think the "We are X!" and "Love it!" comments just too optimistic for some people ::)
I remember seeing one comment on this page asking "Will it be 'We are X' or 'I am Yoshiki'?" (No, it wasn't me but I really liked the question). This comment is now deleted.
You probably are not following Yoshiki and X JAPAN on Twitter/Instagram/Facebook, where those comments are majority and he encourages the drama posting pictures of 'oh, I'm very ill', 'oh, what X will be without me?', 'oh, I need nurses'.
We are not trying to hate. Speaking by myself, I'm actually trying NOT to hate seeing Yoshiki with his huge ego trying to make the band to be himself, which is also hide's widow. The whole X name and history being Yoshikicentric. Until the last tour starts, even the official BAND site was pointing to Yoshiki's twitter.
My complaints are the same for years and I see very little improvement. Maybe the people you say that are "trying to hate" are people who are just disappointed with the way their favourite band is going.
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This forum tries so hard to hate, seriously.
I feel many people on this forum have a pretty balanced view on what X is doing nowadays. I really like that talk isn't too serious and ultra-excited here. I was on XWonderland Forum, that was the opposite.
I second that!
i would say that most people here love X more than any of the #vampirebossamaissoawesome fangirls who are bothering each other and the world with their hashtags, just to gather points to win prizes, which is really annoying. But it is also allowed to make some critical comments, even when you love and support X. We don't have to like everything they (or Yoshiki) are doing, just because we are fans.
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I overreacted, for that I'm sorry. I just don't understand why this topic is brought up so much, I guess. Yoshiki's the leader and unarguably puts in the most work, so he'll get the most credit for the band. If hide were still alive, yes, the attention would be way more equally shared. But it's so unfair to expect a band that's trying to move forward with an active career and not just a throwback reunion tour to give any majority of attention to a deceased member. I remember a few years after X reunited, fans were actually complaining about hide being brought into the concerts past the first 3 reunion shows. Now it's become a monster battle about who's getting proper attention between him and Taiji. X Japan may be hide's widow but Yoshiki and Toshi went to Tokyo with X already in their lives, to make it grow... it's... like I can't say it enough, that there is no X without hide or Taiji or Pata or Heath or now Sugizo, but Yoshiki and Toshi STARTED the band. I have no doubt that hide and Taiji will be honored but the living members deserve the majority of the attention going forward. That's all there is to it.
Also, if Pata was the co-founder of the band and the one writing all the songs and handing out instrument parts to the other members, writing lyrics for Toshi and telling him how to sing the tunes, don't you think he'd be the one with the limelight? Yoshiki's ALWAYS had the creative priority in the band (even back in the day, he would hand out music scores that they couldn't read so he'd have to perform and record their parts and let them learn by ear- this isn't a new dynamic) and the most fame. Before, it was filtered out with mystery from the lack of information and with hide being a bigger face to the fans, but now Yoshiki's stepped in and taken his role for that, he's said so himself.
If the other members were really so perturbed like some fans are, too, they could always learn english and have their managements make some western sm accounts. Hell, they don't even need to know english for that, they just need some intern who speaks it. Toshi speaks english, but does he bother reaching out to us? No, even though he has an instagram and facebook. In fact his facebook is PRIVATE. You have to add him to see anything he's up to! What kind of celebrity does that unless he has no interest in making following him easy? These guys are now entering their 50s and all have private labels. If they wanted to negotiate some attention and publicity away from Yoshiki they easily would, because Yoshiki needs them in the band. It's not like anyone's getting one pulled over, that's why I just don't understand the Yoshiki hate. It's obvious everyone chooses their roles.
The ""Will it be 'We are X' or 'I am Yoshiki'?"" comment? Way out of line. It's the other members' responsibility to do something to have a bigger presence during this "global X Japan" if they want it. They hold a shit ton of cards and they're the ones with more time on their hands. But seldom fans consider that whenever this topic is brought up.
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Maybe the rest of the bandmembers ain't as attention seeking as Yoshiki and want their private life being .. well .. private, that's why they aren't as active on social media as him, or maybe they tried in the past to get more interviews and were shut down, who knows.
But them not being as active in TV-Shows, Radio, etc. as Yoshiki is not the issue I have with the situation.
What I'm afraid of is, that the documentary will be (for a large part) focused on Yoshiki and his hard work (which he undoubtly put into it) of reuniting X Japan, his medical problems and so on. Puting him as the only bandmember in the center of the poster, simply reinforces the doubts I have. :( Really hope I'm wrong and the film will be about their whole career and that each step (X years, Taiji leaving, Heath joining, Last Live, hide's death, years in between, reunion, ...) gets the amount of time it deserves.
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I just came across this interview with Stephen Kijak:
http://www.parkrecord.com/ci_29405325/metal-documentary-was-mind-bending-journey-stephen-kijak
"It's about X Japan, but a portrait of Yoshiki, which is something he doesn't allow the world to see very often," Kijak said. "I will say the biggest challenge was editorial. You have an enormous story with many characters, albums, drama, and you also have a portrait of one man and his life's work. The challenge was to balance those two things and create something that has integrity and authenticity."
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What surprises me most is that we are actually surprised. It was always all about Yoshiki, so why would this be any different? Not sure it bothers me that much, it's what I expected. But I'm sort of relieved to see that at least some people here seem to share my not always completely rosetinted view of it all, a nice alternative to the over the top love parade 8)
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LOL Yeah, I'm also surprised that we're surprised. I suppose we hope(ed) for something capturing ALL of X which, well, isn't just about Yoshiki. :/
(I really didn't care about Yoshiki at all at the beginning. He wasn that weird girly guy and that was it LOL.)
Since the documentary seemed to be done "independently" and not by X/Yoshiki staff, I though that we might be lucky enough to get something different from all the promo videos we've been seeing lately. Well, but we didn't watch the documentary yet, maybe it won't be as bad as we are afraid it might be. ;D
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I just have a hard time imagining Yoshiki just allowing someone else in charge of anything whatsoever. It may have been the original intention, but that must have been before anyone met the man ;D ...or that's what I'm reading between the lines in the "the challenge was to balance those two things...." quote (among others) :P I'm still optimistic though, at least there must be some interesting footage we've never seen and such 8)
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"I had abandoned metal when I was 13 or 14 when I went new wave."
But the new wave connections helped him relate to the band, especially lead singer Toshi (Deyama) guitarist Sugizo (Sugihara Yuu), and THE FILM'S MAIN SUBJECT, drummer Yoshiki (Hayashi).
ugh I expected sth about X since their indie days till now...n wished I would learn more about heath and pata...however I think they don't like it...but even if it's more about Yoshiki,it'll be still interesting,I'm so excited...
This forum tries so hard to hate, seriously.
I feel many people on this forum have a pretty balanced view on what X is doing nowadays. I really like that talk isn't too serious and ultra-excited here. I was on XWonderland Forum, that was the opposite.
I second that!
i would say that most people here love X more than any of the #vampirebossamaissoawesome fangirls who are bothering each other and the world with their hashtags, just to gather points to win prizes, which is really annoying. But it is also allowed to make some critical comments, even when you love and support X. We don't have to like everything they (or Yoshiki) are doing, just because we are fans.
oh many of them don't do it JUST TO GATHER POINTS TO WIN PRIZES!sharing news and stuff is good for the band too,just because some fangirls love Yoshiki doesn't mean they're bad for the fandom,there are different people w/ different tastes and ways of supporting,I think it's ok as long as they support X JAPAN,what's wrong with fangirling?!!and I'm sure Yoshiki is not that stupid to think that all of X JAPAN fandom think like those fans,but it won't change anything cuz that man will keep doing what he wants to do lol
And where did you see those exactly? Because if you're talking about the facebook page, there are none. This forum tries so hard to hate, seriously.
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See, not a single fangirly " YOSHIKIIIIII YESSS WE ARE XXXXXX!!!! FOREVER!!!!!" comment... anywhere... You're choosing to see what you want and for some weird reason twist it around to the Yoshiki fandom. I'm starting to think the "We are X!" and "Love it!" comments just too optimistic for some people ::)
lol my cm
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Anyone besides AsukaMiyu read that article : http://www.parkrecord.com/ci_29405325/metal-documentary-was-mind-bending-journey-stephen-kijak
I find it a tad depressing... thoughts ?
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Yoshiki is my favorite member so the more I get of him the more I get in return as a fan. Just in general, I think it'd be best to wait until the documentary came out to make judgments on the content... even if we know it's going to be Yoshiki-biased we don't know how much he's going to share about the other members like hide, who he was closest with. He also mentioned at MSG that X's indie days were their best days so, you know, who knows what will be revealed. I'm very interested in the doc so far, I'm more curious about the reunion than the history because there's more confusion and mystery around it.
ugh I expected sth about X since their indie days till now...n wished I would learn more about heath and pata...however I think they don't like it...but even if it's more about Yoshiki,it'll be still interesting,I'm so excited...
I went to Stephen Kijak's twitter and he said the hardest part about making the documentary was getting Pata to talk so I think you're right, lol!
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http://www.billboard.com/articles/events/sundance/6851686/x-japan-documentary-we-are-x-sundance-film-festival
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http://www.billboard.com/articles/events/sundance/6851686/x-japan-documentary-we-are-x-sundance-film-festival
Heeeey, I was just about to post this. The clip was kinda cool, I thought.
(Also, what's this I'm hearing about Pata & him having a blood clot?? Please tell me that this is just a baseless rumor)
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http://variety.com/2016/film/festivals/we-are-x-doc-primed-for-sundance-1201686511/
Kijak said Yoshiki was completely hands-off during the process of making the film. That makes sense, since it seems like he was hesitant to make it in the first place since it brought up awful memories.
http://www.billboard.com/articles/events/sundance/6851686/x-japan-documentary-we-are-x-sundance-film-festival
Heeeey, I was just about to post this. The clip was kinda cool, I thought.
(Also, what's this I'm hearing about Pata & him having a blood clot?? Please tell me that this is just a baseless rumor)
That is a cool clip! As for that rumor... I'm not really sure where the information is stemming from but I do know Ra:In activities have been suspended due to Pata's health. Hopefully we get more information soon and it's just something temporary. However, if his health affects X's upcoming activities we'll know it's really serious.
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Okay since you're talking about now anyway....... The postponement due to Pata recovering from s blood clot was on the same websites that now have only the video and a shortened version of it. I hope there for an official clarification asap! -_-
Anyway, even the current version still says this:
X Japan will release its first new studio album in 20 years this fall.
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That is a cool clip! As for that rumor... I'm not really sure where the information is stemming from but I do know Ra:In activities have been suspended due to Pata's health. Hopefully we get more information soon and it's just something temporary. However, if his health affects X's upcoming activities we'll know it's really serious.
Okay since you're talking about now anyway....... The postponement due to Pata recovering from s blood clot was on the same websites that now have only the video and a shortened version of it. I hope there for an official clarification asap! -_-
Anyway, even the current version still says this:
X Japan will release its first new studio album in 20 years this fall.
Someone on Facebook said that poor Pata has Thrombosis or something like that. . . I do hope that Yoshiki says something soon. February is coming soon & X Day will come fast, so if there's gonna be a delay, he needs to say something now.
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http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/we-are-x-sundance-review-858743 interesting review! Pretty much summaries the 'Yoshiki focus' which a lot of other people have mentioned.
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http://www.screendaily.com/reviews/we-are-x-review/5099234.article
This one does too. Though this reviewer liked the film as a non-fan whereas the other reviewer seems to think it's specifically for the fans.
There’s enough in We Are X to satisfy the band’s hordes of fervent fans, while still impressing those who have never heard of X Japan; some concert sequences are crazy, magnificent, rock and roll madness.
Btw, seems the blood clot rumor was true, if this Sanspo news article can be trusted. A user on twitter translated it:
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Sanspo article: http://www.sanspo.com/smp/geino/news/20160125/geo16012505010011-s.html
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http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/we-are-x-sundance-review-858743 interesting review! Pretty much summaries the 'Yoshiki focus' which a lot of other people have mentioned.
The review talks about two members committing suicide, and calls MSG the culmination of years of reunion touring... Hmm.. The first is just wrong and the second makes it sound awfully smoother than it actually was :P (a shout out to all of us who went to Paris in 08...)
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Neat article. Copying and pasting because fsr the website makes you pay for a subscription if you read more than once ::)
http://www.newsweek.com/day-three-sundance-film-festival-419334
First, I caught the world premiere of Stephen Kajiak’s emotive documentary We Are X, which chronicles the rise of the five-piece band X Japan (not to be mistaken with California X, or X, an excellent punk band also hailing from California). Helmed by the brilliant composer, pianist and drummer Yoshiki (the subject of the documentary), X Japan gained immediate success in their native Japan upon their debut in the 1980s, bursting onto the scene with their distinctive combination of metal, balladry and unbelievable technical skill that came to be known as “visual kei.” Their flamboyant sartorial approach, inspired by David Bowie’s chameleonic Martian chic, Kabuki culture and the safety pin stylings of early punk bands, definitely helped. As did the band’s heart-pounding live performances, complete with flames, kaleidoscopic light shows and 10-plus-minute-long drum solos that at times left Yoshiki collapsed on the floor. (Later on, the band would provide him with oxygen tanks so he was able to keep playing.)
It’s not all leather and spikes and everything nice, though. The story of the band X Japan is, really, a meditation on the triumph that’s often buried somewhere amid senseless tragedy. In this case, that includes losing several several close friends and family members to suicide and even having to contend with cult brainwashing. Yoshiki’s story is the central narrative here, and through his personal tales, dazzling footage of the band preparing for a 2014 Madison Square Garden run and some serious archival deep-dives (including an unexpected brush with David Lynch!), the director threads together a compelling narrative that will resonate with fans and new listeners alike. It also forces us to grapple with difficult questions of purpose, the inevitable role of pain in art, and how music acts as a force for salvation, as much for the fans as for the musicians who thrash these songs into existence.
Yoshiki—who was once described to me as “the Mick Jagger of Asia”—walked out after the premiere to a standing ovation. While soft-spoken and gracious with his stories, Yoshiki is every bit the larger-than-life force of rock he appears to be onscreen, decked out in leathers and a blowout that would make Farrah Fawcett clench her jaw in jealousy. Later, Yoshiki tells me that he cried “about 10 times” while watching the film, which is among one of the most uplifting pieces I’ve seen at Sundance, period.
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I wish Yoshiki would properly address what's going on with Pata and the rumours/misinformation about the album release and concert date. I understand the documentary is #1 to him right now but it's getting a little insane how much he's dedicating his social media time towards it. Yoshiki already goes on and on and on about things so I guess I should be used to this by now. I just think it's unfair for those who've bought tickets and travel to London.
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I wish Yoshiki would properly address what's going on with Pata and the rumours/misinformation about the album release and concert date. I understand the documentary is #1 to him right now but it's getting a little insane how much he's dedicating his social media time towards it. Yoshiki already goes on and on and on about things so I guess I should be used to this by now. I just think it's unfair for those who've bought tickets and travel to London.
Yoshiki made this post on twitter earlier today :)
We will announce Pata's condition and #XJAPAN's future plan this week.
今週、PataそしてXJAPANの今の状況をアナウンスする予定です。
I'm sure he just didn't want to make any premature announcements.
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Fingers crossed that Pata will recover real soon. It would be very bad if they need to cancel/postpone the concert, after Yoshiki has been promoting and pushing it since last summer.
As for me, if this concert will be cancelled. I will never go to any X Japan concert. Some years ago, they cancelled the Paris concert, which I have booked the flight and hotel. I just can't keep on wasting money in booking flights and hotels to the cities where I don't need to go.
Yes, I know the situation is different this time, anyway…….
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Well the first time they announced to play in Bercy (July 5th 2008), they were just chaotic, I think the second time (November 22nd 2008) they cancelled due to management changes and the third time (October 10th 2009) it was due to the recovery time of Yoshiki's surgery.
Anyway, if Pata is not able to play, everyone understands that. However, they can STILL show the movie and the remaining members can STILL appear! Or have a guest musician. I'm thinking about the style of ToshI's solo concerts...
But let's see what they'll come up with... :/
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Or have a guest musician.
This. Normal bands do this in cases like this. And I'm pretty sure everyone will understand is just while they wait for Pata's recovery. Is better than cancelling another concert and lots of people becoming angry because planned to go to England just for the concert that won't happen.
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I wonder if we'll get album news as well. We have little over 1 month until it's supposed release.
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It would be disappointing if they delay the album release because of this...
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It would be disappointing if they delay the album release because of this...
That would be absolutely ridiculous. If it is fnished, release it, if it's not finished ....
EDIT: Just saw the pressrelease, no album for nobody, fuck that shit.
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I FUCKING KNEW IT.
I quit. I fucking quit. Good god this is lame as hell. What a absolute waste of hype and resources.
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It can't be helped. At the time of Pata's injury there was still a month and a half worth of recording time left for the album. That obviously affected his parts on the album. The concert can't be done bc of the album and a missing member.
It's not a waste of hype or resources it's just severely unfortunate circumstances...
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It can't be helped. At the time of Pata's injury there was still a month and a half worth of recording time left for the album. That obviously affected his parts on the album.
That's just speculation. We don't know if Pata has any more parts to record for the album, or if he is already finsihed recording his parts.
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It can't be helped. At the time of Pata's injury there was still a month and a half worth of recording time left for the album. That obviously affected his parts on the album. The concert can't be done bc of the album and a missing member.
It's not a waste of hype or resources it's just severely unfortunate circumstances...
I'm just irritated because it seemed like things were going well for this band for once. I would argue it's a waste of hype considering this album was supposed to be "99% done" six years ago. At this point I don't care about a tour-I just want a blood album out.
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It can't be helped. At the time of Pata's injury there was still a month and a half worth of recording time left for the album. That obviously affected his parts on the album.
That's just speculation. We don't know if Pata has any more parts to record for the album, or if he is already finsihed recording his parts.
It's not speculation as much as a conclusion based on the information we've been given. Pata gets injured mid-Jan --> album can't be released --> guitar parts were not done.
To say anything else would be wandering into conspiracy theories; which although sometimes entertaining, tend to create a lot of misinformation and contentious misunderstandings, I.e.. rumors.
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I'm not buying it. I can't believe they would have still been working on the record in mid january (except Yoshiki). There were years and years of time to record the remaining music. So if the release is now really delayed because of them not being finished by now ...
I tend more to believe that it got postponed because right now they are not able to tour and promote the record the way they want it to be promoted ... (if it ain't finished yet, I'm not blaming Pata for it).
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I tend more to believe that it got postponed because right now they are not able to tour and promote the record the way they want it to be promoted ... (if it ain't finished yet, I'm not blaming Pata for it).
I don't understand. We Are X got great attention at Sundance, this is the first major press they've had as a band internationally in a while. This would be a golden time to promote.
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I tend more to believe that it got postponed because right now they are not able to tour and promote the record the way they want it to be promoted ... (if it ain't finished yet, I'm not blaming Pata for it).
I don't understand. We Are X got great attention at Sundance, this is the first major press they've had as a band internationally in a while. This would be a golden time to promote.
Hard for me to tell, how much the casual music fan cares for the movie at the Sundance film festival. Maybe Yoshiki was thinking the album release also 'deserves' a big live event, no idea. And of course, maybe you are right and the album is still missing Pata's guitar parts, that's also possible.
Bottom line is, the album won't be released any time soon and that is a shame.
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I don't really know what to say other than I'm so glad I saw them in 2010 because so far that's been the last likely time I'll get to see them. Pata's condition aside, something doesn't align....there's no way you'd be waiting on guitar parts with almost 1 month to go....the rate Yoshiki releases content? No way. The wording is confusing but it sounds as though the album may release before the London show as they're reworking a new date.
Why does it have to be literally a YEAR postponement? The only fair excuse I can think of is that Wembley Arena simply had no availability until then? This really is dreadful for the fans....This seriously is a nail in the coffin. ALL that hype, ALL of that hope we had finally about to be realized and now it's gone. I'm losing excitement about this album with every passing month. It's going to require such an epic track list that I'm not sure the Yoshiki we have now can deliver...fuck. Glad I never bought travel for this.
ALSO....editing my post because I just remembered this now....doesn't this interfere with Yoshiki's own medical plans ahead? He made some tweet a while ago about like Album release -> World Doc -> Concert -> Surgery. Basically he is or was scheduled to have that wrist surgery done in 2017 and he wasn't sure how it would effect his ability to perform going forward.....Honestly guys, prepare for the worst. Being an X Japan fan is depressing shit sometimes. Their health does and should come first but it's the lack of information and how late that some of this info releases is what pisses me off. So either his surgery is the the second half of 2017 which means after the Wembley show, bye bye X Japan activities until 2018 most likely....and then by then, who is around to care anymore other than weeaboos and "nurse" screaming fan girls. Maybe that's all Yoshiki needs nowadays. Wembley to me is still a "glory" show, just like MSG, it's more about "we played these legendary arenas" than actually put on a tour for the sake of touring. Thank god for 2010 North America.
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Alternative poster design.
https://twitter.com/Stephen_Kijak/status/695162450019135488
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I like it alot. We Are X is gonna screen at #SXSW next month, the exact date hasn't been announced yet, though.
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I don't really know what to say other than I'm so glad I saw them in 2010 because so far that's been the last likely time I'll get to see them. Pata's condition aside, something doesn't align....there's no way you'd be waiting on guitar parts with almost 1 month to go....the rate Yoshiki releases content? No way. The wording is confusing but it sounds as though the album may release before the London show as they're reworking a new date.
Why does it have to be literally a YEAR postponement? The only fair excuse I can think of is that Wembley Arena simply had no availability until then? This really is dreadful for the fans....This seriously is a nail in the coffin. ALL that hype, ALL of that hope we had finally about to be realized and now it's gone. I'm losing excitement about this album with every passing month. It's going to require such an epic track list that I'm not sure the Yoshiki we have now can deliver...fuck. Glad I never bought travel for this.
ALSO....editing my post because I just remembered this now....doesn't this interfere with Yoshiki's own medical plans ahead? He made some tweet a while ago about like Album release -> World Doc -> Concert -> Surgery. Basically he is or was scheduled to have that wrist surgery done in 2017 and he wasn't sure how it would effect his ability to perform going forward.....Honestly guys, prepare for the worst. Being an X Japan fan is depressing shit sometimes. Their health does and should come first but it's the lack of information and how late that some of this info releases is what pisses me off. So either his surgery is the the second half of 2017 which means after the Wembley show, bye bye X Japan activities until 2018 most likely....and then by then, who is around to care anymore other than weeaboos and "nurse" screaming fan girls. Maybe that's all Yoshiki needs nowadays. Wembley to me is still a "glory" show, just like MSG, it's more about "we played these legendary arenas" than actually put on a tour for the sake of touring. Thank god for 2010 North America.
This sums up my thoughts. The hard truth was that X Japan was NEVER going to be a worldwide phenomenon. The peak of their popularity will always be what it is in the present, not future. That's why it sucks they never capitalized on the little hype they had in 2010 or now. At this point, they should just release the album literally asap. It sucks Pata wouldn't be able to promote it, but the delays have gone on far enough. I am so grateful I saw the 2010 tour, my only regret is not seeing them with my friend who grew to like them in the years since. Now it looks like we will never get to see them together.
Sucks about Pata and I wish him the best, but the album should have still been out in March and a year delay for the UK show is like pissing on the people that bought airfare. Inexcusable after Paris, Taiwan, etc. You guys should have still gotten a movie showing, album release, and a concert with the remaining members and a fill in. The show must go on given the circumstances. Delay tour dates, but not that silly x day gig
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I second that!
A lot of people will be there because they can't cancel the trip. And I will be really, really, really angry when Yoshiki appears at SXSW on the weekend where XDay was originally planned. Then he would have filled the gap in his calendar pretty quickly! >_<
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This sums up my thoughts. The hard truth was that X Japan was NEVER going to be a worldwide phenomenon. The peak of their popularity will always be what it is in the present, not future. That's why it sucks they never capitalized on the little hype they had in 2010 or now. At this point, they should just release the album literally asap.
Hard truth? Anything can happen. If someone asked in 2013 if X could get a documentary premiered at Sundance and then screened at SXSW would you have said yes? Those are both really big deals. You're saying they hit their peak and that they can't become a global phenom but I just don't think that's true. Timing is everything. Yeah the delay blows and the reason, Pata's health, is absolutely awful, but the outcome might actually be more beneficial. We might get more songs, the global market could shift. You just never know.
Sucks about Pata and I wish him the best, but the album should have still been out in March and a year delay for the UK show is like pissing on the people that bought airfare. Inexcusable after Paris, Taiwan, etc. You guys should have still gotten a movie showing, album release, and a concert with the remaining members and a fill in. The show must go on given the circumstances. Delay tour dates, but not that silly x day gig
How can an album be released without a member anyway? The fans are asking for a bad career move from the band. You say cancel the rest of the tour dates but keep Wembley with a stand-in guitarist.... ok, but then what? How does that help promote the album if you can't even tour after? You just let it drop and have a party without the whole band and then go stagnant until you come back and say, "ok, ready now!" ?
No way. That makes no sense. You release the album and then the entire band hits the pavement. You don't drop an album and then cease activities to let a member heal. You postpone the album, let the member heal, and then resume activities.
It really, really sucks for the fans but it sucks for the band too. No one's a winner right now and that's ok, it just is the way it is. Either way ppl would have found something to complain about with Wembley since it wouldn't have been what was promissed. The faraway date might have been all that was available... it's a major arena... of course it's gonna be booked months and months in advance.
I second that!
A lot of people will be there because they can't cancel the trip. And I will be really, really, really angry when Yoshiki appears at SXSW on the weekend where XDay was originally planned. Then he would have filled the gap in his calendar pretty quickly! >_<
Well... it's a lot easier to fly from LA to TX and tickle the keys for a few songs than it is to rearrange an entire concert overseas. He has the advantage of just having done the Yoshiki Classical tour.
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Holy shit you are an apologist for them. Yoshiki has severely dropped the ball since the reunion with communication and delays. I think he's great. He seems like a great guy with a lot of love. I love the band too, doesn't mean I can't criticize them.
This thing was supposed to come out in 2010. There's no reason an album should take 6 extra years to come out if you put your all into it. He didn't prioritize it. All the health problems, legal problems, etc are valid of course, but we received almost zero information about all of this. The fact that fans got screwed with flights and hotels because of these delays, and that it's happened again sucks. You ask how an album could be released without a member? Dude, Pata recorded his parts months to years ago. If not, then it's their fault for once again waiting so close to a supposed set in stone deadline. Under normal circumstsnces, I'd agree that they should delay. But this has happened time and time again. Those who put their faith in the band this time should get a show in the UK this month. Hell, why not cancel in January when this happpened? Give people time to get refunds and plan.
I will say, a lot of great things happened since 2007. Great shows (one of which I saw), new songs, the documentary (can't wait to see it), and hopefully a new album and tour with a healthy Pata. I do see your point of view given Pata comes first. Perhaps we are both one one side of the spectrum but this all still sucks.
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Holy shit you are an apologist for them. Yoshiki has severely dropped the ball since the reunion with communication and delays. I think he's great. He seems like a great guy with a lot of love. I love the band too, doesn't mean I can't criticize them.
Exactly!!!!
And Honestly, most of us have been X fans for so many years now, some of us for decades.... we know what we can believe and what not. It's always the same.
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All this talk about the 'new' album, the potential for promo disaster without Pata being around.... Have I missed something somewhere ?
This 'new' album has been advertised from the get go (more 6+ years) as a compilations of the songs they've release since 2008 and english versions of oldies (Rusty Nail, Kurenai). This is the new album... it's been done and over with for a long time.
Sure, they can improve and re-record, come up with a final studio mix but that doesn't take years hell its shouldn't take months! We know what will be on this album and we've already heard these songs, some for over a decade.
So please.. stop with the apologies for delaying the album, that's a load of crap. Releasing a single compilation and stretching its marketing over 6 years IS an insult but you know what ? We'd still be happy with that and buy the damn thing.. that's pretty damn loyal if you ask me.
There is no excuse for lack of communication or proper planning. Plan B ? In case something happens ? Not for an organisation of this magnitude. X-Japan was a serious business with the means to guarantee their success post 2008 and besides balming the universe as if everything that happened was outside of their control, they haven't done anything to prove us they actually did want things to go right.
It sure doesn't help that throughout all these years we've witnessed a very active Yoshiki (who after all seems to representing the whole band on his own) in multiple appearances unrelated to X-Japan. Of course he's allowed to do whatever he wants but it's pretty twisted to then turn around and cry over facebook twitter with apologies for delays, cancellations and keep on promoting all that other stuff.
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To be fair, the nature of the album changed. It was originally a compilation album but now it's a full studio album. That certainly warrants some delay, but not 6 years. Communication regarding that also would have been nice
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I'm pretty sure that the album is finished, I think they hold it back because they can't promote it properly right now.
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To be fair, the nature of the album changed. It was originally a compilation album but now it's a full studio album. That certainly warrants some delay, but not 6 years. Communication regarding that also would have been nice
Not trying to be an ass but track list wise, we know (assume safely):
- IV
- Jade
- Born to be free
- Hero
- Without you
- Beneath the skin
- Kiss the sky (?)
- Angel
- Rusty Nail (eng)
- Kurenai (eng)
And maybe something else although that pretty much fills a full "CD" and then some. Unless I am mistaken, all of these songs except Angel already exist in their final forms (singles or certainly recorded). Worst, most have for many years.
Or was there something entirely different being worked on ?
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Can't Violet UK fill in on X Day? Just a thought...
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Can't Violet UK fill in on X Day? Just a thought...
I like the thought but I can't help that the fans would be somewhat lukewarm towards that.
Though now would be a great time to spit out the album for that project and pretend it's 2013 again.
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Would be a big middlefinger! Like George R.R.Martin saying "I start a new franchise now, Song of Ice and Fire will have to wait for a few years."
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Not trying to be an ass but track list wise, we know (assume safely):
- IV
- Jade
- Born to be free
- Hero
- Without you
- Beneath the skin
- Kiss the sky (?)
- Angel
- Rusty Nail (eng)
- Kurenai (eng)
And maybe something else although that pretty much fills a full "CD" and then some. Unless I am mistaken, all of these songs except Angel already exist in their final forms (singles or certainly recorded). Worst, most have for many years.
Or was there something entirely different being worked on ?
I don't think Without You and the English versions of Kurenai and Rusty Nail have been confirmed. I mean, yeah Kurenai and Rusty Nail were on the original configuration but wasn't there mention of most of the re-recordings being thrown out? or am I remembering wrong?
EDIT: I just had a thought. Um....what label would be releasing this album? Wouldn't the EMI deal have expired in 2013?
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He said recently it was 8 new songs and 4 instrumentals, it seems we have heard 7 songs in some capacity and Kiss the sky is the wildcard
Either way, whatever
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@CreepyKlutz Who knows... According to the latest media reports around sundance, the album will be released "with a yet-to-be-determined label." -____-
@axlroseX It just said "Interlude", could also be just shorter songs with vocals, who knows. But probably nothing we already know...? Yoshiki also recently mentioned that they chanced it to 100% new material. (Whatever "new" means LOL)
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I don't think Without You and the English versions of Kurenai and Rusty Nail have been confirmed. I mean, yeah Kurenai and Rusty Nail were on the original configuration but wasn't there mention of most of the re-recordings being thrown out? or am I remembering wrong?
EDIT: I just had a thought. Um....what label would be releasing this album? Wouldn't the EMI deal have expired in 2013?
Seriously I really hope Without you will be on this 90%-done-album-since-2011, I want a studio version of this song with vocals!
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Yoshiki said recently that he gave up re-recording the songs in english and the album would have only new songs ("new" like Jade, BTBF...).
On 2010 Rusty Nail, Silent Jealousy and Kurenai were in english. In 2011 only Rusty Nail and Kurenai. When they played on MSG, Rusty Nail and Kurenai were in japanese again.
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Alright so the latest formula for the album is 8 songs we already know, have heard and have existed for at least a couple of years + 4 interludes/bridging songs a la Wriggle or White Wind from Mr. Martin.
At least that's for now... we shall see.
Meanwhile, Yoshiki hopped on his private jet to attend the superbowl and hang out with celebrities - sorry suckers who booked hotels and flights, life goes on, see ya in 2017 ;P
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Alright, you guys can say I'm an apologist, fine. Perhaps I just have lots of empathy because I know what it's like to aim for the same thing over and over and over and always have something go awry, even if that thing rises up from within yourself. Life is just not easy. Yoshiki's a professional but he's also a perfectionist. Now with Pata, things just clearly weren't meant to be. I feel so sorry for X fans who already booked flights and hotels for Wembley. Fans just waiting for the album? No, not really. Because I'm one of them and I just want the best album possible.
Alright so the latest formula for the album is 8 songs we already know, have heard and have existed for at least a couple of years + 4 interludes/bridging songs a la Wriggle or White Wind from Mr. Martin.
At least that's for now... we shall see.
Meanwhile, Yoshiki hopped on his private jet to attend the superbowl and hang out with celebrities - sorry suckers who booked hotels and flights, life goes on, see ya in 2017 ;P
/clears throat to butt in again. ;) Well... everyone deserves a break... 8) come on man, you know even through Pata's health problem and Sundance that Yoshiki's been in the recording studio. 2 days are not going to set the album back since it's already been delayed.
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The problem isn't that anyone is upset with Yoshiki/X for delaying due to Pata's health. The problem is it's more of the same. Sure, the band deserves a break now and again (everyone does), and health issues have to come first, but they've been dragging their feet on this album for years, promising something that's never coming. On top of it, the album's description has changed so many times that it is, it seems, mostly material that's been complete for years. This album has been delayed so many times that now there's actually a serious legitimate reason to delay it. It had to happen eventually. Look at the amount of content they've released since reuniting. It's a joke.
I understand Yoshiki is a perfectionist. I'm an illustrator (which you can probably guess from my username), and I'm not trying to sound like I'm claiming any measure of higher success or discipline than Yoshiki has, but I do firmly believe in the mantra that you have to eventually let go of your art, because if you keep waiting for it to be perfect, it'll never get there. Give it your best, put everything you have into it, put it out into the universe, and then move on to the next thing. Being a perfectionist has pros and cons. When being a perfectionist holds you back from working because you can't get it exactly the way you want it or can't make up your mind on how it should be, then it's a con. It's getting in your own way. And let's not kid ourselves. If Yoshiki spent less time gallivanting, and working on projects like a comic book about himself, and focused on this music, it would have been out years ago. I don't have a problem that he wants to do that stuff. It's his life, and it's been a hard one. But don't dick us around.
The way it looks to me (and I understand my opinion isn't gospel), is that Yoshiki would rather ride the wave of his past rockstardom instead of actually being a rockstar and, you know, making more music. And that's fine. He's earned his status. He put in his blood, sweat, and tears into everything. But it's really simple: If you promise something, deliver. Do right by your fans. Yoshiki is a walking empty promise these days, and that's why news like this does nothing more than make me roll my eyes and forget about X Japan for a few months.
But that's just my two cents.
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But it's really simple: If you promise something, deliver. Do right by your fans. Yoshiki is a walking empty promise these days, and that's why news like this does nothing more than make me roll my eyes and forget about X Japan for a few months.
But that's just my two cents.
THIS.
The idea of the album already changed from re-recordings in english, only new songs, a self-titled album, a "so far untitled album"... He announced Born to be Free and took FIVE YEARS to release a DIGITAL SINGLE. Not even a physical one. They recorded 5 PVs in January 2010 and so far, nobody saw them yet.
He promises the album since 2007. So far he did Yoshiki Classical, toured with Yoshiki Classical, made 7326492374 appearances to promote YOSHIKIMONO and YOSHIKITTY... I can't believe that the album delay is because of Pata's health. He just needed an excuse. I can't believe that an album which is being recorded since 2007 and was announced to March wasn't ready on January.
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The way it looks to me (and I understand my opinion isn't gospel), is that Yoshiki would rather ride the wave of his past rockstardom instead of actually being a rockstar and, you know, making more music. And that's fine. He's earned his status. He put in his blood, sweat, and tears into everything. But it's really simple: If you promise something, deliver. Do right by your fans. Yoshiki is a walking empty promise these days, and that's why news like this does nothing more than make me roll my eyes and forget about X Japan for a few months.
I think you're right, but he acts differently. Most fans would've been pleased if they just did some "Best of" tours since 2009. Instead, Yoshiki frequently promised new music. Now the shows are 50% new material(should be less, in my opinion), but still no new album. It seems stupid, also businesswise. You want concertgoers to buy your album the day after the show, not 5 years later.
Imagine U2 pulling off that kind of stuff.
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The rooftop "live" videos in LA.
The Kurenai and Rusty Nail story videos.
The Jade-Born To Be Free-IV. vampire story music videos for album promo. (I.V. was supposed to be the original 3rd single, right?)
The recently filmed Hero video which I highly doubt has even been edited.
That's at least 10 music videos that haven't seen the light of day. (I'm not necessarily counting the "LA Premium Prototype" dvd as an official release)
Seems like a lot of money to throw at those to never utilize.
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That's my point, it just seems unprofessional and not very dependable for other people involved.
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That's my point, it just seems unprofessional and not very dependable for other people involved.
And you are entirely right, that's what is mind buggling to me. No one is denying that Toshi's horrible cult experience, Taiji's passing, Yoshiki's health (although that one...eh) and now Pata's health all played a role in affecting their roadmap but they can't by themselves justify the complete lack of profesionnalism this band has exibited for the past, almost decade (wow!).
You truly have to have a lot of disposable income to film all those videos and never use or release them! Cancellations (note the 's') happened last minute, were poorly communicated and dealt with as a minor annoyance by the band. For someone who enjoys posting selfies of himself travelling the world every 10 minutes, Yoshiki was rather short on explanation for any delays or questions and kept on victimizing through the whole ordeals to get sympathy from his fan base (and it mostly worked).
X-Japan (Yoshiki) is an empire, a profesionnal band with a leader who happens to be an incredibly successfull businessman, something most band don't even have. What we are witnessing is not normal, certainly not profesionnal.
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For someone who enjoys posting selfies of himself travelling the world every 10 minutes, Yoshiki was rather short on explanation for any delays or questions and kept on victimizing through the whole ordeals to get sympathy from his fan base (and it mostly worked).
There was actually a twitter project by Japanese fans, sending X-pose pictures and comforting words to Yoshiki...
Not to Pata, no, to YOSHIKI! -____-
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For someone who enjoys posting selfies of himself travelling the world every 10 minutes, Yoshiki was rather short on explanation for any delays or questions and kept on victimizing through the whole ordeals to get sympathy from his fan base (and it mostly worked).
There was actually a twitter project by Japanese fans, sending X-pose pictures and comforting words to Yoshiki...
Not to Pata, no, to YOSHIKI! -____-
This is part of the problem. Yoshiki knows he literally has SHEEP for fans. They will follow him no matter what and love him unconditionally. This is mainly why we get the treatment that we do. Yoshiki will milk all of these other side projects and annoy us to no end with tweets about him hanging out with that Marc Benioff guy, lots of other celebs, etc ...living the good life. It's actually too bad that no one who actually knows a lot about X Japan has had the chance to interview him properly because I'd be asking the TOUGH questions if it were me.
It's an absolute disgrace the way he has handled this new album and he should take full accountability for it. Remember years ago all that hype about them signing with EMI on a 3 year contract or something? LOL what the hell was that even for? Watch us not even get a physical release for this new album. It will probably be a tracklist that we've already predicted minus 1 or 2 songs maybe, some stupid album art of a blonde model and he'll call it the best thing he's ever done.
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Sums it up perfectly
They should just use the dragon logo with a white background, call the album X Japan, and release whatever is done album this point
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Remember years ago all that hype about them signing with EMI on a 3 year contract or something? LOL what the hell was that even for? Watch us not even get a physical release for this new album. It will probably be a tracklist that we've already predicted minus 1 or 2 songs maybe, some stupid album art of a blonde model and he'll call it the best thing he's ever done.
Does anyone know if the album is released on EMI? Or maybe just published by them? I can't imagine they have a normal record deal, or the company would've killed Yoshiki by now.
Ah, so much bitterness about X in my heart and on this forum right now. But let's not forget: For all we now, Pata might be fighting death right now. I wish him all the best, god bless him.
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Remember years ago all that hype about them signing with EMI on a 3 year contract or something? LOL what the hell was that even for? Watch us not even get a physical release for this new album. It will probably be a tracklist that we've already predicted minus 1 or 2 songs maybe, some stupid album art of a blonde model and he'll call it the best thing he's ever done.
Does anyone know if the album is released on EMI? Or maybe just published by them? I can't imagine they have a normal record deal, or the company would've killed Yoshiki by now.
Ah, so much bitterness about X in my heart and on this forum right now. But let's not forget: For all we now, Pata might be fighting death right now. I wish him all the best, god bless him.
As much as I care about their personal health, Pata is in the recovery period right now and the main reason for the cancellation(s) are doctors orders on not to fly or travel. I think the worst is over for Pata, he's been treated.
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Looks like Pata's condition is more severe than a bloodclot that requires no travel... Yoshiki posted this on twitter yesterday:
I just came to #JAPAN to see #PATA.He hasn't been eating for a month, but he's getting better and better. He'll make it through! #WeAreX
I feel so sorry for him. The recovery from how much weight and muscle he's undoubtedly already lost is gonna be an uphill battle, and that's not even factoring in what medical condition is forcing that fast on him. I'm glad he's getting better and better though!
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Well, as mentioned in the japanese news article, Pata also suffers from Colon Diverticulitis. And treatment usually consists of restriction to only fluids and/or nutrition by IV (in combination with antibiotics.) So it's not exactly that he couldn't eat but more like he wasn't allowed to. Anyway, if he's getting treatment and actually getting better that's great news!
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Speedy recovery, Pata. We love you!
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WE ARE X - Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3yJhsrgg4g
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Well, as mentioned in the japanese news article, Pata also suffers from Colon Diverticulitis. And treatment usually consists of restriction to only fluids and/or nutrition by IV (in combination with antibiotics.) So it's not exactly that he couldn't eat but more like he wasn't allowed to. Anyway, if he's getting treatment and actually getting better that's great news!
THIS... while by no means is it a fun condition and can certainly be dangerous if left unattended, the whole shpeel about Pata's condition so far seems to have been rolled up in a healthy dose of Yoshiki-drama.
Meanwhile, Yoshiki is casually hanging out in LA (and posting about it) while pissed off fans who lost money travelling needlessly to London are left out. Would have been a pretty decent gesture to at least fly in for the day, do a quick meet and great, maybe a free mini concert with Toshi for ticket holders ? That would have certainly showed good faith and true appreciation towards their fans but... yeah no.
Gotta love the comment about asking other X-Japan members (including Yoshiki himself) filling in for Pata on the album's guitar recording.. that shows just how far they still are in the process.
As for the documentary, the trailer is neat but confirms it should have been titled My Life - Yoshiki more than We are X..
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Hmmm, not sure if this is the best thread to post this in, but there is an interview up with the creators of the title sequence in the documentary, which you can actually watch!
http://www.artofthetitle.com/title/we-are-x/
Looks very cool, makes me even more excited to see this when it is finally released!