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The band => The Members => Yoshiki => Topic started by: holly.x on January 05, 2010, 05:20:23 PM
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「本人は生涯独身と言っている」これはＹＯＳＨＩＫＩとは长年の友人関系にあるミュージシャンから直接闻いた话だ。「非常に繊细な人间だから、自分の理解者は少ないと思っているんだよ。ただ、その理解者の中に恋人同然の女性がいることも确かだね」（同ミュージシャン）
闻けばＹＯＳＨＩＫＩが别名义で书いた曲の歌词には、実はヒントが隠されているという。「これをローマ字に置き换えて、こういう形でつないでいく。そうすると女性の名前が出てくるでしょ」
ミュージシャンが「ハッキリ书かないこと」を约束に示したものは、文字游びのような谜解きだった。浮かんだのはアルファベット５文字の日本人女性の名前だった。
この名前に思い当たるフシはある。ＹＯＳＨＩＫＩが长年、良き相谈相手としているといわれる３０代女性で、彼女はある有名女_youの亲族でもある。舞台演出の仕事を请け负っている彼女の父亲はＹＯＳＨＩＫＩのステージを手がけたことがあるとも闻いている。ある方法でその女性を追迹した。
惊いたことに、その女性は长年やっていた芸能関系の仕事を辞め、１０月に渡米。知人に「ロスのＹＯＳＨＩＫＩの自宅にしばらく滞在する」と伝えていたことが分かった。
さらに、その知人には｢私、ＹＯＳＨＩＫＩと结婚する」とメールしていたことも判明。実际にそのメールを见せてもらっているから间违いない。
前出ミュージシャンによると、この女性は「亲族の有名女优とは全然似ていなくて、背が高くてグラマー。ハッキリ言えば巨_ruタイプ。服装は比较的派手な感じだけど、キャバクラ嬢みたいな感じではない。别の大物ミュージシャンとも交际していたことがあった」という。
この女性と结婚の可能性はあるのだろうか「彼女はＹＯＳＨＩＫＩとくっついては别れて…という関系を长年、続けてきたんだよ。でも、ちょっと离れるとＹＯＳＨＩＫＩは歌词に彼女のことなんかを反映させてメッセージを送るの。だから信頼を寄せているのは确かだよね。ただ、结婚となると话は别。女性の方が结婚を迫ったとしても、ＹＯＳＨＩＫＩ自身はそういう形にこだわらなくてもいいと思っている人间だから…」(同）
ただ、女性は仕事を退职してまでＹＯＳＨＩＫＩの豪邸で同居し、知人に「结婚する」とメールしているのだから、结婚の希望があることは事実だ
basically it says Yoshiki is married to a long term girlfriend who they broke up before . But that woman quit her job earlier and went to LA and stayed at Yo's home where the woman texted to some friends about the news that they are married...well better get translation elsewhere i am so shocked by the news haha.
dunno if this is just bullshite but still it just :o :'(. well that's Yo for you.
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what's the source?
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wtf?
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Me, too.
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Who is that woman supposed to be anyway?..o_O
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Hum, I googles for it and the source I foudn was this blog
http://kayonosumika.blog28.fc2.com/blog-entry-100.html
....no idea who's blog that is, but it wouldn't be the first time that someone pretends to know yoshiki/'s friends/... and writes stuff like that as a result. So let's just stay calm for now, no?
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Yoshiki?Married?
LMAO, nice story
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Well, I won't believe it unless I see it officially reported....but OK....XD
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well, even if it was so, good for him
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....no idea who's blog that is, but it wouldn't be the first time that someone pretends to know yoshiki/'s friends/... and writes stuff like that as a result. So let's just stay calm for now, no?
Stay calm? Is this a cause to panic?
Well, if it is true, she'd better deserve him. Good luck to them.
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well I really do hope that the rumor is true,I always thought Yoshiki is gay all these times though many times been said he has gf :P
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@Juno Well, we don't have many here, fortunately, but there are always some fangirls jumping up and going crazy over such rumours haha. :D
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but if that is true wish everything of good for him..
he deserves
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Well, i think it is almost a time for Yoshiki to be married, right?
If that true - i wish them happyness~
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well, nw that i am going to cry, i just want to say that if the rumors are true, then i hope theyre happy and that she truly appreciates him and loves him.
in other words, if she's just using him for his money, there will be a lot of angry, phsyco, heartbroken fangirls after her
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Yoshiki married? Ha! He's totally gay.
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well, nw that i am going to cry, i just want to say that if the rumors are true, then i hope theyre happy and that she truly appreciates him and loves him.
in other words, if she's just using him for his money, there will be a lot of angry, phsyco, heartbroken fangirls after her
Don't worry. It's bullshit. Hell, even *I* don't believe this one.
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Yoshiki married? Ha! He's totally gay.
LOL, serisouly, i don't think that's the issue even if he is....xD
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well if the rumor is about Julia Voth, it may be true. She's been wearing an engagment ring. you can see the picture on the ~listen the world~ website
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I call major bullshit on this one, if Yoshiki was getting married, I think he'd most definitely tell his fans.
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I call major bullshit on this one, if Yoshiki was getting married, I think he'd most definitely tell his fans.
I don't think so, he never admits to even having girlfriends. He even dislikes people knowing his age, Yoshiki seems to like to keep his private life very secret.
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I don't think so, he never admits to even having girlfriends. He even dislikes people knowing his age, Yoshiki seems to like to keep his private life very secret.
Yep.. He obviously likes to be mysterious.
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I call major bullshit on this one, if Yoshiki was getting married, I think he'd most definitely tell his fans.
I don't think so, he never admits to even having girlfriends. He even dislikes people knowing his age, Yoshiki seems to like to keep his private life very secret.
Yeah, I agree. From what I have read he seems to keep his private life very secret. I can see where he is coming from to be honest - his personal life is his personal life and he should be allowed to keep it private and seperate from his professional life if he wishes! I don’t really care what goes on in it as long as he is healthy and happy!
He might be married -I think the same happened with Miyavi (he got married all of a sudden) and he seems to be a lot more open with his fans than Yoshiki about his private life. But at the end of the day - its up to Yoshiki to do what he wants!
If he is married then good luck and happiness to both of them, I can’t believe anyone would actually be pissed off at this, what a crazy world we live in when a musician *might* now be married and that makes someone cry.
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If he really married, especially a much younger woman, I hope he got a marriage contract. Otherwise, good luck to them!
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wowowow, hrmm its about time isn't it? or not?
if it's true, i hope that the woman is good enough to deserve someone like Yoshiki, not like i know him personally but yeahz.
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To be honest, i don't care. I'd be much more excited if it was rumors about new songs or a new album. =/
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Well, most jrockers are pros at keeping secrets.
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Yep.. He obviously likes to be mysterious.
Yeps that is very true. I think it's good that he doesn't throw his personal life out there for everyone to see.
Can you imagine if he were married... updated status:
YOSHIKI (Drums, Piano)
Date of Birth: X
Blood Type: X
Star: X
Wife: Mrs. X
LOL'd on this one xD
It made my day ;D
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wew, be ready for yoshi jr?
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Well, if this is true I am VERY relieved. I thought he was going to end up old and alone.
Regarding Miyavis surprise marriage, a lot of Japanese celebrities do that when they've accidentally knocked someone/gotten knocked up. I was pretty sure that was what happened to him. A bad (or good!) result of a one night stand, perhaps XD If this is what happened in Yoshikis case, though? No idea. WE NEED MORE JUICY INFO. And reliable sources!
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wew, be ready for yoshi jr?
OMFG, scary xD
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yoshiki married?
yoshiki in long term relationship with a woman?
*laughs*
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yoshiki married?
yoshiki in long term relationship with a woman?
*laughs*
Yeah, this is a bullshit rumor as far as I know. :P
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well if its true good for him glad he finally has somone to be with, everyone deserves someone
wonder if him and his wife are going to launce out a couple kids, I think he would make a
great daddy.
thank you chi
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This rumor has been going around in japan for years, I'll believe it when I hear something from Yoshiki
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Oh... wow..... *thinly veiled sarcasm here*
Is it really our business if he has married or not?
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so we all know now with who yoshiki got married!
it's TOSHI goddamnit!! :D
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I do not believe Yoshiki will ever get married.....it's just a rumor !! we are X !!
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He once said that he will never get married(quoted by someone else on some other site..), but he's broken promises before.
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This shouldn't be a 'promise'.
Let alone a promise he should think twice about breaking or not...
And as far as I know, from interviews I've watched/read it seems he always says something along the lines of 'I need to find the correct woman' for that.
But anyway....
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I don't think he ever promised not to marry... Besides, even if he did, Yoshiki tends to make promises that shouldn't be kept, like promising never to play the drums again.
And as far as I know, from interviews I've watched/read it seems he always says something along the lines of 'I need to find the correct woman' for that.
Really? I've always thought it was a matter of not having the time for marriage rather than finding the correct woman.
But if he found "the one" then good for him :)
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I don't think he ever promised not to marry... Besides, even if he did, Yoshiki tends to make promises that shouldn't be kept, like promising never to play the drums again.
And as far as I know, from interviews I've watched/read it seems he always says something along the lines of 'I need to find the correct woman' for that.
Really? I've always thought it was a matter of not having the time for marriage rather than finding the correct woman.
But if he found "the one" then good for him :)
No, he didn't. This rumor's been going around for a while, it's BS. Even I don't believe it. ;)
Seriously? Even if he's totally straight (lol) he needs to marry Toshi already. half j/k
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f***, what we needdd issss yoshiii junior to replace him, wakaka
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f***, what we needdd issss yoshiii junior to replace him, wakaka
*snicker* See my posts about Riku elsewhere on this board. Yo doesn't need to have a biological child to have a successor o.O that kid is.... yeah
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No, he didn't. This rumor's been going around for a while, it's BS. Even I don't believe it. ;)
Are you talking about him promising to never drum again or him marrying?
Seriously? Even if he's totally straight (lol) he needs to marry Toshi already. half j/k
(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t192/Her_Royal_Morbidness/X%20Japan/Yoshiki%20sama/yoshiki_wedding_dress.jpg)
Done. :D
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Are you talking about him promising to never drum again or him marrying?
This particular marriage rumor the thread's about..... according to my friend in Japan it goes around the tabloids on a regular basis with someone or another and someone just blogged it this time.... that Yo knocked up a hostess/prostitute and instead of paying child support or an abortion fee or whatever..... invited her to live his place since she obviously couldn't work anymore and married her and such.
The way it's worded in this go-round though..... looks like someone mashed up that old, tired rumor with what actually happened with Toshi. Yeah, Yoshiki invited someone who couldn't work and was an old friend to live with him..... but it wasn't a kyabajou and as far as I know, they're not married ;) yet ;) unless that pic counts.
Seriously??? I don't see Yo getting married to a random nameless hookup.... if he's going to marry a woman it's likely going to be a Western woman and someone he's been with a while (*coughcoughTwinkorJuliacoughcough*). And if he swings the other way, well, Toshi's free in a few months or so ;)
Though if that happened....... oh my fucking gods the squeeing from PanthereNoire might destroy the world. o.o
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I don't understand 'the squeeing from PanthereNoire might destroy the world'.
Who is PanthereNoire?
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Consider yourself lucky you don't know who PanthereNoire is.
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Are you talking about him promising to never drum again or him marrying?
This particular marriage rumor the thread's about..... according to my friend in Japan it goes around the tabloids on a regular basis with someone or another and someone just blogged it this time.... that Yo knocked up a hostess/prostitute and instead of paying child support or an abortion fee or whatever..... invited her to live his place since she obviously couldn't work anymore and married her and such.
The way it's worded in this go-round though..... looks like someone mashed up that old, tired rumor with what actually happened with Toshi. Yeah, Yoshiki invited someone who couldn't work and was an old friend to live with him..... but it wasn't a kyabajou and as far as I know, they're not married ;) yet ;) unless that pic counts.
Seriously??? I don't see Yo getting married to a random nameless hookup.... if he's going to marry a woman it's likely going to be a Western woman and someone he's been with a while (*coughcoughTwinkorJuliacoughcough*). And if he swings the other way, well, Toshi's free in a few months or so ;)
Though if that happened....... oh my fucking gods the squeeing from PanthereNoire might destroy the world. o.o
Well, that's why I said IF he found someone. I didn't mean I actually believe he is going to marry soon but I guess it didn't came out right. With the recent chain of events, I can't see it happening anytime soon.
I didn't know about the rumor in Japan but I tend to ignore these kinda stuff since the tabloid can get really nasty and out of hand. Lol to how Toshi got mixed into it though!
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These rumors get very out of hand. To me.. it's Yoshiki's business weather he marries someone or not. If he doesn't want to make an official statement about it.. it's his business. It's also his business if he is letting Toshi stay with him.
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But who will wear the wedding dress?
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But who will wear the wedding dress?
just wait for next live, i'm sure atleast Yoshiki will
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Consider yourself lucky you don't know who PanthereNoire is.
Why's that? I remember Panthere being an active poster on here a few years ago back when I joined. Who are they what happened to him/her? I remember they had a lot of knowledge regarding X Japan.
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Yes, she had lots of knowledge, but she was, what you could call, an EXTREME Yoshiki fangirl. She also was extremely nuts about us not breaking any laws (hence why there was a time the rules were really strict here). She also started lots of drama and flamewars and never came to clean it up. She basically got kicked eventually.
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There was a sense of hegemony when she was active. Although she possessed a wealth of knowledge, the way she portrayed her superiority made her dislikable to a lot of people.
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Ahhh I see. I barely remember some of it haha thanks for clarifying.
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PanthereNoire is active over at JRockRevolution and has actually written some pretty good reports on the forum. I haven't read all of her stuff over there though, so I don't know if any of her behaviour has changed. I only check in when looking for something specific so author doesn't matter as much as content.
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PanthereNoire is active over at JRockRevolution and has actually written some pretty good reports on the forum. I haven't read all of her stuff over there though, so I don't know if any of her behaviour has changed. I only check in when looking for something specific so author doesn't matter as much as content.
Some of us rather dislike her commentary for another reason. She was the one who singlehandedly re-lit a huge flamewar between Toshi/Yoshiki and hide/Yoshiki shippers with a ton of unwarranted, unfactual (or at best "accentuate the negative" factual) bashing of hide right up to claiming that Yoshiki wished he would die so he and Toshi could be together (!!!), and seemingly stepped back from fandom a bit once Yoshiki's biography and its first chapter became available.
That's not to say she can't be right: most of her stuff about Yoshiki (except for her insistent claims that he hated hide, didn't love him, only wanted a relationship with Toshi, etc, etc, BS, BS) is at least factually correct, as is most of her stuff about Toshi.
It's the insistence on Toshi/Yoshiki one true love, the psycho behavior (hell, I'm a groupie and fanthing but I'd never go to someone's show and be like "GO BACK TO YOSHIKI NOW!!!" even if that did turn out to be the best course of action, and I don't collect and name Starlight Yoshiki dolls and claim they talk to me...), the posting some of the worst lies about hide and by extension about Yoshiki, the incessant combativeness and lawsuit threats and I'M RIGHT YOU MUST AGREE OR I SUE YOU that turned most of us off on her....
And no, "Without You" was not written for Toshi. >:(
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PanthereNoire is active over at JRockRevolution and has actually written some pretty good reports on the forum. I haven't read all of her stuff over there though, so I don't know if any of her behaviour has changed. I only check in when looking for something specific so author doesn't matter as much as content.
She hasn't been working for JRockRevolution for over a year now I think. I can't say much, but, as far as I kno, let's just say her departure was 'nice' :P
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Thanks Hypno. She's still on the member's list, but I didn't check to see when her last post was.
@MistcastDice: Fer Real!? :o Seriously? Oh my, that's so very, very....sad, and the kind of behaviour I used to eat up in law studies. One wonders where she got her 'information'. I'm with you, I can be a bit of a dreamer and a fangirl on occasion, but if I was going to go the 'love triangle' route it would be more like Yoshiki loved hide and that Toshi felt pushed out and sad about being replaced and blah, blah, blah, but then I also write gay romance (not RLslash) so I think I see a day-dreaming, plot trend there. ;) LOL. God, their private lives may be open for speculation, but are no one's business and certainly not something a fan has a right to state as empirical fact. Most Japanese artists would never share the details with a 'fan' or even a close employee or Personal Assistant, at least not without having them sign a contract of non-disclosure first if they are wise. We are more relaxed in the West about this stuff though. On a personal note, watching the film footage of Yoshiki playing with hide over the years, there is no doubt about their sincere affection for one another. They were very close friends and openly demonstrative. Unfortunate that some fans are that possessive.
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I know that PN wasn't exactly the most popular member either here or at JRock Revolution, but I think she was perhaps a little missunderstood. I just don't like people bashing her without her being around to defend herself, it's just not nice.
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I know her well enough to bash her, she was in the first 10 people who registered when this forum opened back in 2006 or so. And knowing her, I wouldn't be surprised if she'd still lurk around occasionally, or have her friends lurk for her.
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@Beauty/Broken: hmmm ::) thinking I'm not sure that stating an opinion on bad fan behaviour in general and personal bashing are the same thing, but fair enough. Personally, I figure if a fan's actions are verifiable by the 'paper trail' or 'cyber trail' they leave, others have the right to react and express an opinion on said actions. I have read some damned good stuff by PN over at JRR. I would have said the same thing about any fan who behaved in such a manner, so no one need take it personally. However, if I am to agree that it is unfair to speak of someone in particular when they are not there to defend themselves I would have to argue then that we should never speak ill of Toshi, Yoshiki, hide, Pata, Heath, Sugizo or any one else on this forum. ;) Some of the bashing that has taken place of the band members on this forum is inexcusable if we are going to hold by the tenet of not speaking ill of or bashing someone who is not present to defend their actions.
@Hypno: I have seen a similar situation on another forum where the person who was difficult and even lurked under socks was the actual owner/site mistress. It eventually cost her her site over time. Very sad. I don't want to hijack the thread so enough said.
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Yoshiki married?
I don't think. I think fans would know that fact, even if it isn't our business :D
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Okay, not that someone defended PN in her place and we had the pleasure to hear both sides, hopefully we can get back to the actual topic and talk about Yoshiki, and not PN. :P
Thank you all!
...........so in my opinion the timing of Toshi's divorce fits the marriage rumour almost perfectly, right? >DDDD (half joking :P)
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...........so in my opinion the timing of Toshi's divorce fits the marriage rumour almost perfectly, right? >DDDD (half joking :P)
and they even had rehersals in front of a big croud
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I must say that I have been very surprised of the answers on my question 'who is PN' because someone said something about sqeeing etc...I don't know anymore.
I've been reading those reactions, and it didn't feel good to me. Not knowing the things that had been happened and so further.
It is always better to accept differences in persons. No one is the same and no one thinks the same.
But anyway, I don't think Yoshiki is married ;D
The photo taken from the last concert (Taipei), Yoshiki (dress) and Toshi, is beautiful ;D
So they are married on stage in Taipei ;D Now Toshi has a bigger problem, is he bigamist now? (JOKE)
Offtopic: I have been drinking coffee too late, now I cant sleep, but I must wake up early :(
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and they even had rehersals in front of a big croud
Yes, it is X Japan!!!
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KrazyJess said:
Faestian, no offense, but I believe you weren't here then, so please don't take everything you hear as 100% true. For objectivity's sake, not mine or PN's.
Thanks and not to worry, I can assure you I did not and do not take anyone's word as 100%, ever. I spent ten years up to my elbows in legal affidavits, so unless I was present at the actual event as a witness, (and even then I tend to analyze things), I keep my 'reasonable doubt' chip firmly installed. PN has nothing to fret from me. I made comment on such behaviour by any fan as being bad form and stand by that as a valid statement. I also commented that I had read some damned fine work by PN over at JRR. Believe me, I make my living being 'objective', and I draw my own conclusions; have done my entire life. Myself, if a person affects me negatively in a personal way, I take it to PM and out of general public where I do my best to work things out, so never worry that I will ever 'bash' in public. Stating an opinion, and asking questions, I will continue to do however. ;) ;D
As for Yoshiki getting married? No matter who he might choose one day to partner, if he is happy, and makes his partner happy, then he has all my love. All the power to them, whoever s/he might be. If it IS a he, DUDE! come to Canada!!! IT'S LEGAL HERE! WOOT!
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I bet Yoshiki is a bad husband ;D
Imagine that:
wife is calling 4 a.m. @Extasy Records: Darling come hoooome already! QOQ
Yoshiki: yeah in a bit... just a few more minutes *doesn't leave Extasy Records before noon the other day*
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If Toshi and Yoshiki marry will they become "Toshiki"?
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I bet Yoshiki is a bad husband ;D
Imagine that:
wife is calling 4 a.m. @Extasy Records: Darling come hoooome already! QOQ
Yoshiki: yeah in a bit... just a few more minutes *doesn't leave Extasy Records before noon the other day*
LOL. That is hilarious and sooooo true!!!!
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@ everyone else.... I remember PN from the days wen i snuck around the site (before i joined) and i always seemed to sense some humor in her comments.... She really did keep things interesting :) But either way, lets just all respect her and chillax.... I mean, the past is the past.... lets move on!
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So that why Toshi is getting divorce :o
xD
I don't believe Yoshiki is getting married, he seems to have no time. But if he is, good for him, I bet the girl will be just HOT. xD
Or the dude ;D?
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If Toshi and Yoshiki marry will they become "Toshiki"?
No... that will happen if they do THAT:
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/TaishoMavi/Fusion.jpg) :P
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O.O
wtffffff XD
but in all srsness, this rumour is bullshit, i know this personally for a fact.
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O.O
wtffffff XD
but in all srsness, this rumour is bullshit, i know this personally for a fact.
I dont mean to sound rude, but how do u know that the rumor is BS?
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......as if anyone would believe that rumour in the first place...xD
and I guess she knows cause she's working for quite a view big Jrock projects. :P
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If Toshi and Yoshiki marry will they become "Toshiki"?
No... that will happen if they do THAT:
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/TaishoMavi/Fusion.jpg) :P
*bows* xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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Maverick!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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and I guess she knows cause she's working for quite a view big Jrock projects. :P
Thanx for clearing that up! I ddnt no that! I still have a lot to learn *Blush*
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ahah, no worries y0shisgrl. :3 its all good.
and the projects i've worked for, ehh, not that big. i just know a few people and its been mentioned in one or two convos.
these rumours have been going on for quite some time, ever since she was seen wearing a ring on her finger at an award show, sadly people forget, jewelry is considered part of an outfit, and sometimes, people like to freak out and overreact. XD
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what happened to people who just like rock music? fantasizing about the band members being lovers whatnot.. think the beatles was a four-way too? sickness like that made charlie manson what he is. i think x is one of the best rock bands, but i can't stand most fans. if yoshiki's married then cool for him, although i dont think he is.
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think the beatles was a four-way too?
Oh, you know...maybe 2 couples?