X JAPAN in SAW IV

madrigal · **Reply #30 on:** October 09, 2007, 06:36:51 PM

Quote from: "darkcat21"

Well, that's just an early track listing. http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/7510626/a/Saw+4.htm
This website also mentions X. And an extended version will be released too in November.

Did I understand this site wrong or is the soundtrack (the unextended) going to be released 23 Oct? Because then we will know pretty soon if X is on it as the track listing says!

Sander · **Reply #31 on:** October 09, 2007, 06:42:06 PM

I agree, we'll know for sure on 23rd October...

XXX · **Reply #32 on:** October 10, 2007, 02:35:03 PM

Maybe the song "IV" is currently being recorded?

BizKiTRoAcH · **Reply #33 on:** October 10, 2007, 03:09:38 PM

I doubt it. The film is already finished and is probably being printed onto film reels/being distributed as it comes out in 2 weeks. There's no way they'd leave it this late.

XXX · **Reply #34 on:** October 10, 2007, 09:10:13 PM

Quote from: "BizKiTRoAcH"

I doubt it. The film is already finished and is probably being printed onto film reels/being distributed as it comes out in 2 weeks. There's no way they'd leave it this late.

Well, I guess you're right.

BizKiTRoAcH · **Reply #35 on:** October 10, 2007, 10:22:35 PM

I have a feeling that IF it is definately an X Japan song (and not a SKIN/VUK/Yoshiki only song) that it might be an older, unreleased song? I still find it hard to believe that they could reunite and record a new song with NO-ONE knowing anything about it.

madrigal · **Reply #36 on:** October 10, 2007, 10:41:43 PM

Or it could be an old song but with new english lyrics,
(Wouldn't an english version of SCARS fit for a movie like Saw IV? Just the name...

or what am I talking about, it should be SADISTIC DESIRE!

)
I think it's harder to believe that they've recorded a completley new song just for the Saw IV soundtrack though... It would be much more logical if they'd record a new song (and kept it secred) to release it as a single, or a b-side to Without You.

Silver_Rain · **Reply #37 on:** October 10, 2007, 11:34:45 PM

Maybe it's just an old song, without anything new recorded. Saw several soundtracks with songs that were released before. It would be awsome to hear something new but I doubt it'll be a new X-Japan song.

XXX · **Reply #38 on:** October 11, 2007, 12:14:49 AM

Quote from: "madrigal"

Wouldn't an english version of SCARS fit for a movie like Saw IV?

Didn't hide record an english version of Scars?

Sander · **Reply #39 on:** October 11, 2007, 01:46:56 PM

Quote from: "madrigal"

Or it could be an old song but with new english lyrics,
(Wouldn't an english version of SCARS fit for a movie like Saw IV? Just the name... or what am I talking about, it should be SADISTIC DESIRE!

STANDING SEX

ferret · **Reply #40 on:** October 11, 2007, 04:38:52 PM

Quote from: "madrigal"

Or it could be an old song but with new english lyrics,
(Wouldn't an english version of SCARS fit for a movie like Saw IV? Just the name... or what am I talking about, it should be SADISTIC DESIRE! )

I wouldn't mind if they put that crappy "new" version of Sadistic Desire in this crappy movie

madrigal · **Reply #41 on:** October 11, 2007, 04:59:06 PM

XXX! I've never heard about an english version of scars, but that would be AWESOME

Hypno & ferret! Standing Sex and Sadistic Desire (New Version) would be really nice, but the old version of Sadistic Desire has got the screaming in the beginnig!

ferret · **Reply #42 on:** October 11, 2007, 05:07:58 PM

Quote from: "madrigal"

Hypno & ferret! Standing Sex and Sadistic Desire (New Version) would be really nice, but the old version of Sadistic Desire has got the screaming in the beginnig!

Sadistic Desire (old) is my fave X song and if they dare putting it in something like Saw... :evil: *loads pumpgun*

madrigal · **Reply #43 on:** October 11, 2007, 06:45:41 PM

Yes, it's a very good song, but you have to agree that it would go well with the mood of the movie?

ferret · **Reply #44 on:** October 11, 2007, 07:10:01 PM

Mood? Most likely. But quality wise

Sadistic Desire>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Saw genre

It's like...having Carmina Burana in the background of a crappy softporn flick. :?

madrigal · **Reply #45 on:** October 11, 2007, 07:41:57 PM

It really is a very good song

Anyway, I have a feeling that I.V. is something that we haven't heard before...

darkcat21 · **Reply #46 on:** October 11, 2007, 08:32:40 PM

Quote from: "madrigal"

It really is a very good song

Anyway, I have a feeling that I.V. is something that we haven't heard before...

Me too

Menacia · **Reply #47 on:** October 11, 2007, 08:33:17 PM

Quote from: "darkcat21"

Quote from: "madrigal"
It really is a very good song

Anyway, I have a feeling that I.V. is something that we haven't heard before...

Me too

Me three

BizKiTRoAcH · **Reply #48 on:** October 11, 2007, 09:10:07 PM

I'm a huge fan of the Saw films and love them all.. I'm glad that a new (or old) song will be on the OST

leading_note · **Reply #49 on:** October 12, 2007, 01:49:36 AM

Well, I've never watched it before but I guess I'll go this time.

Menacia · **Reply #50 on:** October 12, 2007, 10:58:05 AM

Quote from: "leading_note"

Well, I've never watched it before but I guess I'll go this time.

same here.

BizKiTRoAcH · **Reply #51 on:** October 12, 2007, 12:15:08 PM

I would recommend starting from the first Saw film and watching them all in order. Its not essential, but everything would make more sense.

And they are quite gruesome films so if you have a weak stomach, I wouldnt recommend watching 2 or 3 (and from the clips i've seen, 4 aswell). 1 was the least gruesome and focused more on the story (because they didnt have a big budget)

BizKiTRoAcH · **Reply #52 on:** October 12, 2007, 02:48:24 PM

X Japan will NOT be on the Saw 4 OST CD release. I'm not saying it wont be on the film, but it wont be on the CD.

http://www.artistsaddiction.com/Saw4Soundtrack.htm

They are one of the companies listed on the production notes (along with Extasy Music and 901 Highland Music) and that is one of the official places to buy it. Neither X Japan nor Dir En Grey are on it.

Its likely that X Japan will still be on the film (probably the first song when the end credits start) but we wont be hearing the song on CD. No doubt someone will record it from the cinema and get an mp3 file posted

edit: Although that is the american release. If it gets released in Japan it might have different tracks. I doubt it though as the OST's are usually the same worldwide

darkcat21 · **Reply #53 on:** October 12, 2007, 02:51:14 PM

That's the early track listing, not the final one :wink: But i'm saying the same as Kyubi, thre's no better (and official source) than the Production notes.

And imo it can't be an old song, old X song released through Extasy are the ones from Vanishing Vision, but neither one of that songs were released under 901 Highland Music...

Menacia · **Reply #54 on:** October 12, 2007, 02:59:14 PM

Quote from: "BizKiTRoAcH"

Xedit: Although that is the american release. If it gets released in Japan it might have different tracks. I doubt it though as the OST's are usually the same worldwide

Not all OST's are the same. HYDE's song COUNTDOWN and Gackt songs have been used for japanese version of american movies as songs.

I can do some research to give you movie titles as examples, if you want.

BizKiTRoAcH · **Reply #55 on:** October 12, 2007, 05:35:21 PM

Quote from: "darkcat21"

That's the early track listing, not the final one :wink: But i'm saying the same as Kyubi, thre's no better (and official source) than the Production notes.

And imo it can't be an old song, old X song released through Extasy are the ones from Vanishing Vision, but neither one of that songs were released under 901 Highland Music...

Thats the final US tracklisting. It is one of the companies involved in the production, why would they put a tracklisting that isnt the final one 2 weeks before release? Like I said, i'm not saying X arent on the movie, they just arent on the US CD Release.

And it can be an older one. If they recorded a song and didnt release it on any album, Yoshiki/X own the rights to said song, not Columbia/Sony/whoever. It could have been a song that was recorded for the Dahlia album but never made the final cut.. or it could be a new one. We'll have to wait and see.

Menacia: I said USUALLY the same, not always the same

darkcat21 · **Reply #56 on:** October 16, 2007, 07:00:58 PM

X JAPAN WILL NOT APPEAR IN THE SOUNDTRACK CD
(but yes in the film)

First of all, we got this:

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Bravewords reports that Artists’ Addiction Records will issue the Saw IV Original Soundtrack on CD and as a digital release on October 23rd, with an extended digital release to follow in November.

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It should be noted that the Saw IV Original Soundtrack is itself an “inspired by” collection. Aside from 'Just Begun', an excerpt form Charlie Clouser’s score, the songs comprising this companion piece are not heard in the film; instead, their selection was inspired by the film.

Can I repeat?
the songs comprising this companion piece are not heard in the film

Source

That's why some tracklistings with X Japan on it were removed, because X Japan is not appearing in this release.

But the most interesting thing is that in the Saw movies, the song which was listed in the production notes used to be the main theme and were always released in extended version coming one month later.

So, we have:
- Magazines saying that X Japan would perform the main theme for a Hollywood movie released in November.
- Saw 4 is released in November in Japan.
- X Japan is listed in the production notes of Saw 4.
- Songs listed in the production notes in other Saw films were later released. This time is in November.

Sander · **Reply #57 on:** October 16, 2007, 07:09:40 PM

An "inspired by" album? That's stupid if you ask me

BizKiTRoAcH · **Reply #58 on:** October 16, 2007, 11:18:26 PM

darkcat21: Thats what I said. X Japan might still be on the film but they wont be on the soundtrack

The past 3 Saw soundtracks have been "inspired by".. although Saw 1 was a mix. It had like 6 "inspired by" songs that werent in the film and about 8 songs that were from the original score. The Saw 2 and 3 soundtracks were all inspired by excluding 1 song on each which was from the film, I assumed the 4th would be the same.

Menacia · **Reply #59 on:** October 17, 2007, 01:02:01 PM

only one more week and we'll know for sure