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The band => General chat => Topic started by: darkcat21 on March 08, 2018, 11:05:28 AM
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X JAPAN LIVE 2018 PREMIUM GIGS ～The Night of Resurrection of YOSHIKI～
That's the official name of the concerts lol
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:D I hope this will mean the beginning of a world tour. .... and subsequently the release of the damned album LOL
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X JAPAN LIVE 2018 PREMIUM GIGS ～The Night of Resurrection of YOSHIKI～
That's the official name of the concerts lol
That title tho. ;D ;D ;D I really do hope, there's much more to come. I'm so excited. :o
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X JAPAN LIVE 2018 PREMIUM GIGS ～The Night of Resurrection of YOSHIKI～
That's the official name of the concerts lol
Yoshiki is the new Jesus.
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X JAPAN LIVE 2018 PREMIUM GIGS ～The Night of Resurrection of YOSHIKI～
Well, that's one I did not see coming
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I don't know what to think of it. ::)
Hopefully Yoshiki has totally recovered and able to do the concerts.
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X JAPAN LIVE 2018 PREMIUM GIGS ～The Night of Resurrection of YOSHIKI～
That's the official name of the concerts lol
Yoshiki is the new Jesus.
I miss the old times when Yoshiki's ego wasn't so INSANELY HUGE.
Pata was on the verge of death on 2016 and there was no "Pata ressurrection concert". Yoshiki only used it as an excuse do postpone the album again.
Toshi was brainwashed and tortured on a cult for 15 years. There was no "Toshi ressurrection concert".
Yoshiki is coming back after a surgery that he should have done during the three years on which he played absolutely nothing: OMG OUR LORD AND SAVIOR AMAZING GENIUS ROCK STAR IS COMING BACK.
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It's called marketing. ;) And for marketability, Yoshiki is still the most powerful of the 5 members. Also, i think Pata would have hated if he were put in the spotlight like that.
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So nobody is going to talk about the ridiculous ticket prices? ???
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I think it's called premium gigs for a reason, and apparently ticket prices include merch https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000088.000021123.html
I'm used to Korean concert prices in Europe, real no name rookie bands ask half of this price, so, 30 thousand yen for X Japan premium with merch included is not such a big deal.
Also, Zepp Divercity is a 2500 ppl venue, this looks more like an intimate show, and they might have some surprises planned. Probably mostly open to hardcore fanclub members.
What buggers me more than the price is that Fortus and Borland are supposed to be there, too.... Jesus, why are they needed?
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What a racket. $300 to watch Yoshiki warm up for Coachella? Lmao release the album already.
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I miss the old times when Yoshiki's ego wasn't so INSANELY HUGE.
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OMG OUR LORD AND SAVIOR AMAZING GENIUS ROCK STAR IS COMING BACK.
lol shut up and pray to our Lord and Saviour Jesushiki for your daily bread, amen 8)
What buggers me more than the price is that Fortus and Borland are supposed to be there, too.... Jesus, why are they needed?
And next up on Yoshiki's WTF guitarist wishlist: Eric Clapton, Brian May, Paul McCartney, Les Paul's hologram in tranny makeup and Pope Francis (let's keep this holy).
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It's called marketing. ;) And for marketability, Yoshiki is still the most powerful of the 5 members. Also, i think Pata would have hated if he were put in the spotlight like that.
Oh. And you freaked out on other topics when I said the whole Yoshiki drama was also marketing.
I think it's called premium gigs for a reason, and apparently ticket prices include merch https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000088.000021123.html
I'm used to Korean concert prices in Europe, real no name rookie bands ask half of this price, so, 30 thousand yen for X Japan premium with merch included is not such a big deal.
Also, Zepp Divercity is a 2500 ppl venue, this looks more like an intimate show, and they might have some surprises planned. Probably mostly open to hardcore fanclub members.
What buggers me more than the price is that Fortus and Borland are supposed to be there, too.... Jesus, why are they needed?
I'd bet if I could that the setlist will be the same as always and a total of zero surprises will appear at the concert.
If Fortus and Borland appear at the concert, is the final proof that Yoshiki totally lost his mind.
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I'd bet if I could that the setlist will be the same as always and a total of zero surprises will appear at the concert.
If Fortus and Borland appear at the concert, is the final proof that Yoshiki totally lost his mind.
Bet you're right! LOLOLOL
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In any case, foreigners who don't live in Japan can't go to the concert. I've heard that they'll check identification thoroughly. So you can't enter the venue with the concert ticket that you bought from your friends in Japan or from the purchase agency.
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In any case, foreigners who don't live in Japan can't go to the concert. I've heard that they'll check identification thoroughly. So you can't enter the venue with the concert ticket that you bought from your friends in Japan or from the purchase agency.
uh? Ok... someone really has something up his ass lately.
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LOL LAME
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The title of the concert doesn't really bother me.
Curious how the gigs are gonna turn out. The addition of Richard and Wes makes it a little bit more interessting to me, but here it depends how they are gonna be used and if they are allowed to show more of their skillset.
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In any case, foreigners who don't live in Japan can't go to the concert. I've heard that they'll check identification thoroughly. So you can't enter the venue with the concert ticket that you bought from your friends in Japan or from the purchase agency.
Where did you read that? That sounds very odd. I can't find that info anywhere.
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I think this is because it's open to fanlcub members (and as far as I know, for most Japanese artists, if you do not have alien registration in Japan, you cannot even be a fanclub member). The article I linked says something about "lottery", so I think it's that fanclub members can win the chance to buy the ticket for the show. it's not gonna be open to the public maybe? Am I understanding it right, lakeisle-nim?
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In any case, foreigners who don't live in Japan can't go to the concert. I've heard that they'll check identification thoroughly. So you can't enter the venue with the concert ticket that you bought from your friends in Japan or from the purchase agency.
Where did you read that? That sounds very odd. I can't find that info anywhere.
I think they decided to adopt this method to prevent the price of tickets from being incredibly expensive in the black market(I'm not sure if this term "black market" is proper in this context). Because you can hardly get tickets of this small scale concerts. If scalpers sell tickets on somewhere like auction, then the price becomes incredibly high. So I don't think it's odd. Have you been planning to go to the concert?
Anyway, here is the source. Yoshiki-mobile.
http://www.yoshiki-mobile.jp/archives/2091
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I think this is because it's open to fanlcub members (and as far as I know, for most Japanese artists, if you do not have alien registration in Japan, you cannot even be a fanclub member). The article I linked says something about "lottery", so I think it's that fanclub members can win the chance to buy the ticket for the show. it's not gonna be open to the public maybe? Am I understanding it right, lakeisle-nim?
I don't know for sure either. But as far as I know, it's very difficult to buy tickets for Japanese concerts without commissioning to purchase agencies, let alone joining fanclubs.
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I think they decided to adopt this method to prevent the price of tickets from being incredibly expensive in the black market(I'm not sure if this term "black market" is proper in this context). Because you can hardly get tickets of this small scale concerts. If scalpers sell tickets on somewhere like auction, then the price becomes incredibly high. So I don't think it's odd. Have you been planning to go to the concert?
ohhh I see, thanks for the explanation! :) and no, not planning to go to Japan lol maybe next time they do US, South America or maybe Europe in year 2043
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Oh, god, just saw the official announcement of Fortus and Borland.
Why? It was totally nonsense in 2008, is even more now. I hope Yoshiki don't bring back hide hologram as well.
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What I thought initially was right, it's fanclub access only. And it will be broadcast in certain theatres live accross Asia.
http://jrock247.com/2018/03/x-japan-announces-10th-anniversary-of-reunion-premium-gigs/
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Oh, god, just saw the official announcement of Fortus and Borland.
Why? It was totally nonsense in 2008, is even more now. I hope Yoshiki don't bring back hide hologram as well.
Oh hell no! ::)
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Why? It was totally nonsense in 2008, is even more now. I hope Yoshiki don't bring back hide hologram as well.
Oh crap. Please. Not. The. Hologram.
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why not? I want a hide ft. Michael Jackson hologram ;D ;D ;D
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What I thought initially was right, it's fanclub access only. And it will be broadcast in certain theatres live accross Asia.
http://jrock247.com/2018/03/x-japan-announces-10th-anniversary-of-reunion-premium-gigs/
There are several steps of selling tickets. Selling for fanclub comes first, and then seliing for the public starts. It depends. (f.e. V.I.P -> fanclub -> the public) So when the selling for fanclub is finished, then they will sell tickets for the public. But foreigners can't buy it. LOL.
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What a joke
Gee I wonder what the setlist will be...
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... you know guys it's a bit ridiculous that for months on end you complain about X Japan not doing anything, then when they announce Coachella and announce these concerts, all you can do is complain, say "what a joke" and stuff like that. Can X Japan actually do anything that would please you? :)
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... you know guys it's a bit ridiculous that for months on end you complain about X Japan not doing anything, then when they announce Coachella and announce these concerts, all you can do is complain, say "what a joke" and stuff like that. Can X Japan actually do anything that would please you? :)
Simple things like releasing the album Yoshiki promises since 2007, playing concerts without playback and an hour of ego-boost, not calling totally unrelated people to the concert, not making fashion shows during a fucking rock concert.
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... you know guys it's a bit ridiculous that for months on end you complain about X Japan not doing anything, then when they announce Coachella and announce these concerts, all you can do is complain, say "what a joke" and stuff like that. Can X Japan actually do anything that would please you? :)
Thank you, you just drew up my thoughts. I mean, it's totally fine to dislike it, but I don't understand, if they don't care anymore, if this band can not bring them anything good anymore, why do they care to comment? They don't like the idea of Coachella, they don't like this, even tho it's not even affecting them, since it's only for Japanese fans. :") Just why do they care? I would like to ask, what do they want, but it's just pointless. "The new album", yeah, sure, but the thing is, they don't even care about that anymore either. It's crystal clear, that they don't like this band anymore, and you know what, it's totally fine! I just don't understand, why would you care about something, you don't like... Just let it go. Isn't it easy?
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... you know guys it's a bit ridiculous that for months on end you complain about X Japan not doing anything, then when they announce Coachella and announce these concerts, all you can do is complain, say "what a joke" and stuff like that. Can X Japan actually do anything that would please you? :)
Simple things like releasing the album Yoshiki promises since 2007, playing concerts without playback and an hour of ego-boost, not calling totally unrelated people to the concert, not making fashion shows during a fucking rock concert.
You are bringing up shit that happened years ago. The last time the VUK thing happened was 2009, Sugizo has played pretty much all hide parts for years now and Richard and Wes are invited now because they were there 10 years ago, i dont even see the problem thet did well ladt time and you wont even be there lol
Also, you hate all the new songs, why do you want the album? So you can hate on it? You obviously already decided you wont like it.
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Yeah my point exactly. If anything comes out, there is complaint, if nothing comes out, thereis complaint. They complain about the new album not being released for years but I BET the moment it comes out, it's going to be bashed by the very same people. It's just ridiculous that they pick on everything Yoshiki does. Everything. Then why bother about this band, if you dislike everything they do? Do you actually enjoy being so negative about everything? There are plenty of bands you can like, Buck-Tick releases a new album soon, go listen. :) I just cannot understand this mentality, that some of you guys come here claiming you are an X fan, and all you do, literally every single post you do, is about bashing X and Yoshiki all the friggin time. I've been here for about a year now and haven't seen any positive post from some people on this forum. Literally only bashing, whining, and picking on every move this band does. This is not being a fan. You turned into an anti.
Sure, there are things we are not satisfied about, and even things we think are WTF (like these gues players) but can we just focus on the positive stuff? X Japan is doing shit. They actually do stuff. They actually want to play. Why is this not enough for now? Why do people always want a whole arm when someone offers them a thumb?
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Yeah my point exactly. If anything comes out, there is complaint, if nothing comes out, thereis complaint. They complain about the new album not being released for years but I BET the moment it comes out, it's going to be bashed by the very same people. It's just ridiculous that they pick on everything Yoshiki does. Everything. Then why bother about this band, if you dislike everything they do? Do you actually enjoy being so negative about everything? There are plenty of bands you can like, Buck-Tick releases a new album soon, go listen. :) I just cannot understand this mentality, that some of you guys come here claiming you are an X fan, and all you do, literally every single post you do, is about bashing X and Yoshiki all the friggin time. I've been here for about a year now and haven't seen any positive post from some people on this forum. Literally only bashing, whining, and picking on every move this band does. This is not being a fan. You turned into an anti.
Sure, there are things we are not satisfied about, and even things we think are WTF (like these gues players) but can we just focus on the positive stuff? X Japan is doing shit. They actually do stuff. They actually want to play. Why is this not enough for now? Why do people always want a whole arm when someone offers them a thumb?
I do understand the complaints about the empty promises and lies about the new album, I do understand the complaints about the cancelled concerts ( but just saying, it's been like that since the very beginning unfortunately, it's nothing new :') ) But why the bashing over this premium gig in JAPAN, which will be for JAPANESE fans only, why complain about how much the tickets costs, if you won't buy it? It's like I would buy a dress to myself, and YOU would complain about how expensive it was, does it make sense? Let the Japanese fans complain about it. :) If it's not affecting you, why do you care?
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... you know guys it's a bit ridiculous that for months on end you complain about X Japan not doing anything, then when they announce Coachella and announce these concerts, all you can do is complain, say "what a joke" and stuff like that. Can X Japan actually do anything that would please you? :)
Yeah my point exactly. If anything comes out, there is complaint, if nothing comes out, thereis complaint. They complain about the new album not being released for years but I BET the moment it comes out, it's going to be bashed by the very same people. It's just ridiculous that they pick on everything Yoshiki does. Everything. Then why bother about this band, if you dislike everything they do? Do you actually enjoy being so negative about everything? There are plenty of bands you can like, Buck-Tick releases a new album soon, go listen. :) I just cannot understand this mentality, that some of you guys come here claiming you are an X fan, and all you do, literally every single post you do, is about bashing X and Yoshiki all the friggin time. I've been here for about a year now and haven't seen any positive post from some people on this forum. Literally only bashing, whining, and picking on every move this band does. This is not being a fan. You turned into an anti.
Sure, there are things we are not satisfied about, and even things we think are WTF (like these gues players) but can we just focus on the positive stuff? X Japan is doing shit. They actually do stuff. They actually want to play. Why is this not enough for now? Why do people always want a whole arm when someone offers them a thumb?
Oh trust me, I'm off enjoying other bands too and other areas of entertainment that actually deliver. I still love X Japan but not this super contrived shit "feather in the cap" shit that Yoshiki is doing as of late. For those of us that have been around since the reunion or even before, we feel cheated by the fact that Yoshiki squandered the better part of a decade. Most of our interest lies within the new album and actual concerts, not a fan club only 2,500 person warm-up show with Fortus and Borland. Trash.
It's easy for you clowns to ask why we're mad and not satisfied that they're doing something when you're averaging nearly 2 posts a day writing fan-fic and other nonsense. We're not cut from the same cloth. Things would be totally different if Yoshiki didn't promise things to his loyal fans that he can't live up to.
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It's easy for you clowns to ask why we're mad and not satisfied that they're doing something when you're averaging nearly 2 posts a day writing fan-fic and other nonsense. We're not cut from the same cloth. Things would be totally different if Yoshiki didn't promise things to his loyal fans that he can't live up to.
I understand enough how old fans are frustrated by canceled concerts and the album delay. But why do you insult members who write fan-fic? What's wrong with fanfic? I don't write or even read it, but I don't care if some fans enjoy it. If you think posting fanfic is wrong, why don't you ask administrators to delete the fanfic category?
And what's wrong with averaging nearly 2 posts a day? You mean that the more they post, the more clowns, and the less they post, the more loyal fans? Then why does this forum exist?
If you have anything you want to refute, just refute it. Why are you insulting those who are not involved?
I'm offended.
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It's really interesting how elsewhere you complain about the forum being inactive and here you complain I make 2 posts a day. What's your fucking problem? Are you being bitter that others actually enjoy talking about X japan? If you don't like it, you know where the door is. Why should I feel bad about enjoying conversation with others about topics I like? And calling others clowns because our opinion differs is just a nasty, hateful thing. As the saying goes in my country, we were not looking after geese together so you could afford to talk to me like that. Go and let your steam out on someone else.
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Maybe we are just frustrated because after following the band for 15+ years, having expectations about their reunion being broken again and again by Yoshiki, losing money with cancellations and empty promises while a band which once had its value, was somehow important to us, became just a tool for Yoshiki autopromotion. We created high expectations with lots of announcements which turned to nothing while Yoshiki cancel concerts, postpone albums because he is too busy making drama on Twitter and travelling to promote a two year old movie about himself. Sometimes I read the news and think that hide was really THAT important on the band and Yoshiki has some hard times making the band work without him.
My only issue with they playing at Coachella is because the people who go to Coachella aren't going to see them. I don't find it particularly bad, at least they are doing something. Is not the same public.. It is not like Lollapalooza, where they were unknown, but was a rock band in a rock festival. They are playing on the same festival as Beyonce and quite a lot of artists not remotely related to their style. They may face some real hostile audience.
I don't "hate" what they have done after the reunion. The London concert and mainly the acoustic tour were amazing. They looked like a band again, everyone working together and showing awesome performances.
TL;DR: I'm just frustrated how a band which I admired for so long became just "our lord and savior Yoshiki and his underlings".
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Maybe we are just frustrated because after following the band for 15+ years, having expectations about their reunion being broken again and again by Yoshiki, losing money with cancellations and empty promises while a band which once had its value, was somehow important to us, became just a tool for Yoshiki autopromotion. We created high expectations with lots of announcements which turned to nothing while Yoshiki cancel concerts, postpone albums because he is too busy making drama on Twitter and travelling to promote a two year old movie about himself. Sometimes I read the news and think that hide was really THAT important on the band and Yoshiki has some hard times making the band work without him.
This. Paris 07, etc.
But, still, keep it civil guys, no need to be rude.
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you are again brining up 10+ year old complaints. You mock Yoshiki for not being able to get over his father's death, hide's death etc. but you keep complaining about 10+ year old happenings. It seems you are just like Yoshiki, unable to let go of the past. Then why are you complaining about Yoshiki's mentality, when yours is the exact same?
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It's no wonder they talk about 10 year old stuffs because it's a thread on X Japan 10th Anniversary of Reunion. Regardless of thread's topic, it's Yoshiki himself who sells the past through the documentary or whatsoever.
It's a personal story, but I've discovered X Japan in 2015 and had 2 year hiatus. Yoshiki's something really drove me crazy, so I once left X Japan completely. (yes, came back) I don't know yet if I'm his fan or hater. So I can imagine how much 10~20 year old fans have been frustrated so far. But you don't need to insult new fans.
On the other hand, you don't need to preach them to be positive. And you don't need to say "if you can't be positive, leave this forum" blah blah. Even if you don't say that, most fans have already left. Reading the threads posted 10 years ago, it looks so fun. There were Many people and many topics. I think they really loved X. But most of them already left. So you don't need to say "Leave this forum unless you can be positive".
I mean... I hope the fans respect each other. Old fans and new fans, negative opinion or fangirlic posts... whatever.
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I don't expect the album to be musically interesting anyway, for me, it's more exciting that they give the evergreens a new twist, like they did with the acoustic concerts. And I kinda sympathize with Yoshiki's inability to wrap it up, I also fail again and again at finishing my demo song recordings.
I also prefer listening to old Beatles records instead of Paul's new albums... but at least I could if I wanted to, they actually exist ;-)
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TBH, I had heard about this on Twitter or somewhere, but somehow IDGAF.
No L.A. show, no care. ¯\_(≖ ︿ ≖ ✿)_/¯
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Sometimes I read the news and think that hide was really THAT important on the band and Yoshiki has some hard times making the band work without him.
True, true. I get that feeling too, sometimes. Hide, come back bro, u was tha real MVP.
(...) at least they are doing something. Is not the same public.. It is not like Lollapalooza, where they were unknown, but was a rock band in a rock festival. They are playing on the same festival as Beyonce and quite a lot of artists not remotely related to their style. They may face some real hostile audience.
My feelings, exactly. I'm afraid their agent didn't quite hit the nail on that one. Coachella is not your traditional X fan's natural habitat. And the crowd there doesn't really have new fan potential. But what do I know.
(...) Reading the threads posted 10 years ago, it looks so fun. There were Many people and many topics. I think they really loved X. But most of them already left. (...) I mean... I hope the fans respect each other. Old fans and new fans, negative opinion or fangirlic posts... whatever.
THIS. We need to keep X Freaks alive, guys.
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Can we at least agree that Jesushiki is our lord and savior?
(http://i63.tinypic.com/e637fk.jpg)
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Oh please, that's terrible. Sorry but that is my feeling on it. He is not my Lord and definitely not my savior! ::)
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I just laughed my ass off loud enough to wake my dozing co-worker a few cubicles down from mine 8)
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Can we at least agree that Jesushiki is our lord and savior?
(http://i63.tinypic.com/e637fk.jpg)
I'll just leave this here: https://goo.gl/images/2F3pXm
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Yoshiki has been meme-ing himself since the 1980s, guys. We can hardly come up with anything original. 8)
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first fancam from today's show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyhmQVYsoaM
and insta video: https://www.instagram.com/p/BhZGlvAlHme/?tagged=xjapan looks like Yoshiki survived the first night of drumming :)
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Woah, thanks Teemeah!
I don't want to be a bad fan but that intro with all the post-op wheelchair Yoshiki videos and him standing on his drumset like Christ on the cross totally made me ROFL. Anyway, I have to re-watch those when I get home, with decent sound. Did we just see Heath with an open white shirt? I though he was only allowed black 8)
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Setlist of the first concert:
1-Jade
2-Rusty Nail
3-Kiss the Sky (don't know yet if it was the full song)
4-I.V.
5-PATA Guitar Solo
6-Drain
7-Sugizo Violin Solo
8-Beneath the Skin
9-Forever Love
10-Art of Life (Piano solo)
11-Kurenai
12-World Anthem
13-Endless Rain
14-Born to be Free
15-X
Miya from MUCC played with them.
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Thanks, Teemeah!!!! That's beautiful! :)
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Wes Borland played I.V., Fortus played Born to be Free and Miya played Kurenai.
Marc Benioff uploaded the beggining of the concert. 4 years and even Kiss the Sky isn't ready yet. Piano and voice again.
https://twitter.com/Benioff/status/983664128743976960
Sugizo improvising on Rusty Nail solo. I kinda like it. But then they dropped a key in X. :(
https://www.instagram.com/p/BhZbaStgHSh/?tagged=xjapan
Age also comes to Toshi, he was struggling on the last concerts to sing X.
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Good thing Forever love is on the playlist. But Art of life piano solo...I hope it isn't just the solo from the middle of the song, because that would make for a good time to buy a drink.
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Good thing Forever love is on the playlist. But Art of life piano solo...I hope it isn't just the solo from the middle of the song, because that would make for a good time to buy a drink.
Agree. I just don't like that falling all over the piano and wrong notes. Horrid.
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to each their own, I love the piano solo.
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I love it too except when he is hitting wrong notes, on purpose no less. It makes me cringe. Maybe that's because I am a musician as well and can always hear wrong notes and can't stand it. :o
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The wrong notes work for me in context of the whole song, but only then.
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Kurenai also was played in a lower key, just saw a video on Instagram.
So Drain was probably in a lower key also, like the acoustic concert. Sad to see Toshi's condition.
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well, he is not getting younger... and he probably screwed his voice up with singing in full on high notes all the time. I don't mind the lower keys.
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well, he is not getting younger... and he probably screwed his voice up with singing in full on high notes all the time. I don't mind the lower keys.
Is weird, it sounds weak. But is better than nothing and it happens to everyone who sings high notes for too much time. I can remember Deep Purple and Offspring, totally different styles, lowering keys as well.
X
https://www.instagram.com/p/BhburDGnyV3/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BhbtZywF0Xl/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BhbnDJcnVJW
Kurenai
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bhbhtkzh1dZ/
Beneath the Skin
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bhbr3avB6AB/
And a mouthful of a 10 member introduction on X.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BhbynxdHCmP/
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Stop guys lol. It's easy to pin singing worse on age but Toshi is an excellent singer with strong vocals. He was better last year than he was during reunion. There's a number of factors that could be affecting his voice, like allergies or just getting sick.
They might have also dropped the key on several songs to reserve his voice for Coachella. They might have even told him to sing "weaker" (Michael Jackson would do that during dress rehearsals to save his voice for the show). Overall, the anniversary concert was just another concert... It's an anniversary and everything but it's not as important as the career marker that is Coachella. I say we reserve judgement until this weekend.
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Stop guys lol. It's easy to pin singing worse on age but Toshi is an excellent singer with strong vocals. He was better last year than he was during reunion. There's a number of factors that could be affecting his voice, like allergies or just getting sick.
They might have also dropped the key on several songs to reserve his voice for Coachella. They might have even told him to sing "weaker" (Michael Jackson would do that during dress rehearsals to save his voice for the show). Overall, the anniversary concert was just another concert... It's an anniversary and everything but it's not as important as the career marker that is Coachella. I say we reserve judgement until this weekend.
Toshi is still an amazing singer. I don't doubt that. And I agree he was amazing between 2015~2017, even better than the first reunion concerts, when he was totally out of shape.
But is a fact, he is getting old and we may never see them playing some songs at their "original" form. Is just weird when you listen to it at first.
Probably those songs will be played exactly the same way in Coachella. And from now on. Toshi needs to sing in lower key, Yoshiki need to play the drums more calmly. It happens. Age comes and they need to take care of their bodies. It's just a new phase.
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If they need to lower keys, so be it. Doesnt make it worse necessarily.
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Probably those songs will be played exactly the same way in Coachella. And from now on. Toshi needs to sing in lower key, Yoshiki need to play the drums more calmly. It happens. Age comes and they need to take care of their bodies. It's just a new phase.
Were they lowering the key on anything besides Drain before the anniversary concert?
And I agree Axl, lowering the key doesn't make them worse bc they're good songs with beautiful melodies. But I don't feel comfortable being of the opinion that they're lowering them from now on forever until it happens for a handful of concerts. Then again I was under the impression that they'd only been lowering Drain before now. If they've been lowering other songs than maybe it is time.
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It doesn't sound weird to me but I'm not a musician so what do I know.. :) I prefer whatever suits Toshi best. If this is the way for him t preserve his voice, so be it. I can still switch on old videos if i want to hear him sing in full blast. I just want all of them to be healthy.
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I saw the concert at the theater yesterday. Regardless of music, Yoshiki made me choke. Yoshiki looked like a mermaid when he jumped into the audience. I always fail to be calm to him. I hate him or love him. He makes me crazy.
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I saw the concert at the theater yesterday. Regardless of music, Yoshiki made me choke. Yoshiki looked like a mermaid when he jumped into the audience. I always fail to be calm to him. I hate him or love him. He makes me crazy.
Someone who was barely walking a few time ago, is still recovering from a serious surgery, shouldn't be stage diving.
But is Yoshiki. Nobody can control him.
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I saw the concert at the theater yesterday. Regardless of music, Yoshiki made me choke. Yoshiki looked like a mermaid when he jumped into the audience. I always fail to be calm to him. I hate him or love him. He makes me crazy.
Someone who was barely walking a few time ago, is still recovering from a serious surgery, shouldn't be stage diving.
But is Yoshiki. Nobody can control him.
Yes, I know for sure. He is out of control. Diving can be dangerous to the audience as well. But he was really brilliant at that moment.
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Ok, here is the link to the recording https://mega.nz/#!r2BSEAAL!MnGmN8ekzja4P2CmXkCJIhqz-sL_IlD78E9CyBKyAPE It's a torrent file. Pretty big, 28GB in TS format. If I can, I will try converting to a smaller AVI.
Edit: definitely an amazing concert, i could only watch bits and pieces so far but I will watch it in full tonight. Heath is finally properly plugged in (lol, seriously though!). Yoshiki looks energetic and well, though at times you can see that he is in pain while drumming. Toshi does struggle but I think it is OK. Pata is cuuuuute and Sugizo is really confident and the guest guitarists do well, too. All of them seem to enjoy it and I think this is probably also the setlist for Coachella, since this is shorter than their usual gigs.
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Thanks for the link. Gonna watch it during the weekend.
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Wow, BIG thanks Teemeah!
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Thanks a lot Teemeah!! I'll watch it tomorrow night ;D
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Watched it earlier today and it was a great performance. Yoshiki is playing with more technique and less force, which is good for its health and actually sounded good. He still seems uncomfortable but I think is just a matter of time, he is actually playing very well this way.
Toshi and Sugizo were amazing (I was expecting another different solo on Rusty Nail, like he did on the first day, but was amazing anyway), the guest guitarist were quite integrated to the band. Each one played a song (and actually played, even the solos), which supposedly was the idea behind the 2008 concerts if they weren't so chaotic. Pata and Heath were Pata and Heath, which they do pretty well. Heath seems more excited on this concert than the last ones which I saw.
I was also hoping to listen the final version of Kiss the Sky, which is also promised since 2014. From the pieces leaked, it seems to be amazing, but Toshi said in an interview once that every time he goes to the studio, Yoshiki changed the song completely. Well, there is still hope to see a final version of it. I'm still trying to get used to Drain, Kurenai and X in a lower key. They didn't sound "bad", but were quite different. After listening to those songs for more than 15 years, it takes some time to like the changes and I just don't understand why Forever Love wasn't played with the full band.
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Not sure what the logic is behind the lower key for some of the classics...I'd be surprised if Toshi wasn't able to hit the notes in the higher key...maybe they were worried about him blowing his voice or straining it right before Coachella? I viewed these 2 shows as a warm up for Coachella anyway....
Also, what the hell is Yoshiki doing stage diving? This guy baffles me....you just had major surgery and are telling people you were nearly paralyzed and have to alter your drumming style and you go and jump into a crowd of fans who are like savages. Lmao my god. Anyway, looking forward to the live stream on Sat night.
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Not sure what the logic is behind the lower key for some of the classics...I'd be surprised if Toshi wasn't able to hit the notes in the higher key...maybe they were worried about him blowing his voice or straining it right before Coachella? I viewed these 2 shows as a warm up for Coachella anyway....
I think they'll keep the lower key. If you see the he forces his voice to reach the high notes in X and Kurenai on the last concerts and TV appearances (ex.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmARlSGKnYg).
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Toshi is really struggling in this concert, at times I cringed even, i'm very sensitive to those missung high notes. He screams at times instead of singing.
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Stop guys lol. It's easy to pin singing worse on age but Toshi is an excellent singer with strong vocals. He was better last year than he was during reunion. There's a number of factors that could be affecting his voice, like allergies or just getting sick.
indeed. In London Toshis voice was in his best shape since the early 90s
there is a complete recording on jpopsuki \o/
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anyone noticed that they play an English version of Tears at the very end? I have never heard that.
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anyone noticed that they play an English version of Tears at the very end? I have never heard that.
They are using it as the ending on every concert since 2010.
Curiously it wasn't even fully recorded. It's the exact same recording from 1993, with only the first verses in English. After the first chorus, you can clearly notice the difference on Toshi's voice, and the final part is back in japanese.
Probably it is a demo from the english versions which never came out.
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I don't mind them dropping the key on some songs, actually, many artists do that, and it's normal to lose some vocal range when getting older.
Maybe Toshi will sound even better!
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Toshi is really struggling in this concert, at times I cringed even, i'm very sensitive to those missung high notes. He screams at times instead of singing.
I know, poor dear Toshi. I hope he's not too upset when he's struggling like that and unable to sing the way he used to. I still love him just as much, just the way he is. <3
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Yoshiki looked like a mermaid when he jumped into the audience.
Yeah, saw him... He was precisely like that... :)
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Ok, here is the link to the recording https://mega.nz/#!r2BSEAAL!MnGmN8ekzja4P2CmXkCJIhqz-sL_IlD78E9CyBKyAPE It's a torrent file. Pretty big, 28GB in TS format. If I can, I will try converting to a smaller AVI.
Thank You so much Teemeah!!!
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So, the pro-shot concert we have, was it from the 10th or the 11th? Because I thought someone said it was the first day the 10th (can't find the post), but I have a couple of vids here that say they're the 10th, but it's not the same live as the pro-shot.
First video contains the first four songs, and the second is X. I think Toshi was great on day 1, but sang better here imo, especially on X.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV_EP0R8exM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV_EP0R8exM)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgkeKfOE7Lo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgkeKfOE7Lo)
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I'm gonna guess it's from the 11th.
I went to the live viewing which was supposed to start at 19:00, obviously it didn't, then they announced something which made people laugh and indicated that it won't start soon. And it didn't, it started like an hour later.
This timeline kinda lines up with the WOWOW broadcast where the first (more than an) hour filled up with music videos etc.
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Ok, here is the link to the recording https://mega.nz/#!r2BSEAAL!MnGmN8ekzja4P2CmXkCJIhqz-sL_IlD78E9CyBKyAPE It's a torrent file. Pretty big, 28GB in TS format. If I can, I will try converting to a smaller AVI.
Edit: definitely an amazing concert, i could only watch bits and pieces so far but I will watch it in full tonight. Heath is finally properly plugged in (lol, seriously though!). Yoshiki looks energetic and well, though at times you can see that he is in pain while drumming. Toshi does struggle but I think it is OK. Pata is cuuuuute and Sugizo is really confident and the guest guitarists do well, too. All of them seem to enjoy it and I think this is probably also the setlist for Coachella, since this is shorter than their usual gigs.
I can't get this file to open and I don't know what to do to open it. Help!!!!!! :P
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It's a .ts file. If you have VLC media player, that will open it.
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It's a .ts file. If you have VLC media player, that will open it.
No, I don't have VLC. I use Bandicam. Bandicam doesn't do playback. It shoots video and single shots, i.e. photos. I use Realplayer for playback or whatever is pre-installed on this computer. Since it's a new to me, computer, I haven't checked out what it is because I have my preferences for playback and just didn't bother to see what is on here that opens when I don't deliberately tell the computer to open something with XYZ.
Maybe I'll get VLC, again. I just didn't care for it but I know a lot of people use it.
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You could get Media Player Classic, it's one of the best media players and it supports .ts files.