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The band => General chat => Albums/Singles => Topic started by: MIHO on May 03, 2009, 09:36:30 PM
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It's not a single (yet), but I thought it needed a topic. ;D
So, thoughts?
I was completely amazed when I heard it for the first time. I love the overall sound of the song, and the lyrics are beautiful too.... It's catchy, I can't get it out of my head anymore.
We need studio version, NOW!! ;D
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I was completely amazed when I heard it for the first time. I love the overall sound of the song, and the lyrics are beautiful too.... It's catchy, I can't get it out of my head anymore.
We need studio version, NOW!! ;D
Too lazy to write my thoughts as you already wrote them ;D
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Hahah XDD glad we share the same opinion then!
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I totally agree with you, too. xD
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My first impresion was "WTF is this X Japan?" then after few seconds "I.V.?" and then i started to like it.
I like chorus and lyrics but think that guitar parts should be changed.
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I usualy dont like the song when I first listen to it, but JADE ... *__*
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Did I miss something? *feels stupid*
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Did I miss something? *feels stupid*
new song Jade (or are you sarcastic?)
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Did I miss something? *feels stupid*
Besides Sugizo joining X, Jade being the new song, the Tokyo Dome lives being held and Ra:IN coming to Europe, nope, you didn't miss a thing. : D
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I really like it ! I've listened to it over 500times...
I only think they should turn up the sound of SUGIZO's guitar and add battle solo guitar between Pata and SGZ ^^
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I really like it ! I've listened to it over 500times...
I only think they should turn up the sound of SUGIZO's guitar and add battle solo guitar between Pata and SGZ ^^
that would be KICK ASS : D
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My impression (with laptop speakers) is that it's not that good... I hope the studio version sounds better. Right now it's kind of... empty...
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My impression (with laptop speakers) is that it's not that good... I hope the studio version sounds better. Right now it's kind of... empty...
I'll come to agree with you on that.
Sure, I.V. took me some time to get used to it, but JADE...
It didn't do the click for me. Not now at least.
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Did I miss something? *feels stupid*
new song Jade (or are you sarcastic?)
No really I missed the news of a new song,
So when reading this topic I was like HUH when did that happen XD
But now I listened it, it feels like the song starts a bit awkward especially the verses, but the pre and chorus are awesome they have a nice grand feeling to it.
Still it needs some finetuning, but that will surely happen I think. Then it will be a great song.
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Like I.V. before, this song is already starting to grow on me, I love the chorus, but this song really does need a solo. Anyways I hope they compose some new material down the line that is in the same vein as Kurenai or Blue Blood. Over all I give Jade a thumbs up! ;D
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I like it. But it's not X'ish imo.
But I still like it :D
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I was SO CONFUSED when I first listened to it, for a second I thought I'd clicked the wrong button but then I heard Toshi's voice and was like "...oh. Well. Huh. This is new." XD I couldn't quite get into it the first few times but it's really addictive. It needs some touching up, like the others have said, and definitely a solo, but otherwise it's super :3
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YES!Of course I like
Fight Fire With Fire...xD, ERRRRRRRR I mean Jade!!!!
and now i'm going to behave like an extremely mature member of the fandom;
I WANNA KNOW WHERE ARE THE HIDE SOUNDS OR ELSE THE SONG SUX
ROFL, kiddin kiddin of course :P:P:P
I honestly liked the song. I think it's like an upgraded version of I.V's style and I like that. On the other side, I have to say that i miss the old days a little...^^'
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On the other side, I have to say that i miss the old days a little...^^'
I'm saying that for the past 3 years :) You'll get used to it. XD
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My impression (with laptop speakers) is that it's not that good... I hope the studio version sounds better. Right now it's kind of... empty...
Agreed. I thought it sounded rather generic really D:. Oh well, fingers crossed that it might get better!
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Wow. This sounds like an anime theme song or something.
In my personal opinion, it's like I.V. only bad. It doesn't sound anything like X-Japan and lacks personality and originality. Most of their songs you can listen to and be able to tell that it's them, wheras this sounds like it could have been written by anyone. There's no epic guitar riffs and it's lacking the uber minor chords I've become accustomed to. Yoshiki drums like it's a ballad though I'm guessing it's supposed to be a rock song. Someone on JRR said that they're suffering from not having a dedicated full-time guitarist and Jade is a perfect example of this.
So yeah. I consider it to be completely forgettable and not at all X. Just my two cents.
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Someone on JRR said that they're suffering from not having a dedicated full-time guitarist and Jade is a perfect example of this.
You don't think Pata is one?
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Wow. This sounds like an anime theme song or something.
In my personal opinion, it's like I.V. only bad. It doesn't sound anything like X-Japan and lacks personality and originality. Most of their songs you can listen to and be able to tell that it's them, wheras this sounds like it could have been written by anyone. There's no epic guitar riffs and it's lacking the uber minor chords I've become accustomed to. Yoshiki drums like it's a ballad though I'm guessing it's supposed to be a rock song. Someone on JRR said that they're suffering from not having a dedicated full-time guitarist and Jade is a perfect example of this.
So yeah. I consider it to be completely forgettable and not at all X. Just my two cents.
Even after listening to it for a long time, I agree with you that it still doesn't sound like an X Japan song...I still love it though...it's just different.
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Someone on JRR said that they're suffering from not having a dedicated full-time guitarist and Jade is a perfect example of this.
You don't think Pata is one?
He doesn't contribute to writing the songs in the way that hide did.
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Jade is just epic. I totally the new X Japan sound. In my opinion it's much better than I.V. (which was good too).
Now, we really need a studio verson. ^___^
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Someone on JRR said that they're suffering from not having a dedicated full-time guitarist and Jade is a perfect example of this.
You don't think Pata is one?
He doesn't contribute to writing the songs in the way that hide did.
So? He's still a dedicated full-time guitarist, and who knows maybe he will contribute more in the future, or Sugizo will bring up some ideas for future songs.
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Someone on JRR said that they're suffering from not having a dedicated full-time guitarist and Jade is a perfect example of this.
You don't think Pata is one?
He doesn't contribute to writing the songs in the way that hide did.
So? He's still a dedicated full-time guitarist, and who knows maybe he will contribute more in the future, or Sugizo will bring up some ideas for future songs.
I think you're missing the point. I figured that people would be able to tell from the context that I was referring to hide's role which included writing/contributing to songs.
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My bad.
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Hm...I have a very weird feeling that JADE will be released on HearJapan first...think about it, back when HearJapan reported on the Countdown live concert, they told us to keep an eye on them, and I quote, "Hint: We are a download store and we are not talking about I.V.".....and then they have the exclusive on the title of the new song.....I don't know, just my thoughts :D
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Someone on JRR said that they're suffering from not having a dedicated full-time guitarist and Jade is a perfect example of this.
You don't think Pata is one?
He doesn't contribute to writing the songs in the way that hide did.
So? He's still a dedicated full-time guitarist, and who knows maybe he will contribute more in the future, or Sugizo will bring up some ideas for future songs.
I think you're missing the point. I figured that people would be able to tell from the context that I was referring to hide's role which included writing/contributing to songs.
I totally agree with you fri... that's why I have been feeling kinda low and down. That was my feeling with I.V. then and now with jade. Don't get me wrong though, people. It is still is X Japan no matter what.
Maybe Mr. Yoshiki is gearing away from the old or former sounds he used to make and is moving into more... I don't know how to describe it... adaptable??? or acceptable to todays generation?
We know for sure SGZ's music, as well as Pata's and Toshi's, and they are unique in their own rights. Back then, the individuality of hide was easily recognizable and it stood out through his solo career but at that time his songwriting/contributions had also blended well with Mr. Yoshiki's X music.
Today, I am hopelessly looking for that kind of music and I know it ended there with hide. I just hope that SGZ and Pata and Toshi could add more spice to the future songs of X Japan. But still.... we are >>>>>>> X
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I dont know what to think about JADE, it's kind of in the same style of IV.
The main guitar riff souns kind of uninspired and like it was not made or thought up by a guitarist, where as the (pre)chorus sounds really grand and amazing with strings and all. Its making me think it's a Yoshiki song. He's just not that good at making guitar riffs. I also really dont like the guitar sound.
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Wow. This sounds like an anime theme song or something.
HEY!!!Watch your mouth.......dattebayo!!
xDDDDDDDDDDDD
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Someone on JRR said that they're suffering from not having a dedicated full-time guitarist and Jade is a perfect example of this.
You don't think Pata is one?
He doesn't contribute to writing the songs in the way that hide did.
So? He's still a dedicated full-time guitarist, and who knows maybe he will contribute more in the future, or Sugizo will bring up some ideas for future songs.
I think you're missing the point. I figured that people would be able to tell from the context that I was referring to hide's role which included writing/contributing to songs.
I totally agree with you fri... that's why I have been feeling kinda low and down. That was my feeling with I.V. then and now with jade. Don't get me wrong though, people. It is still is X Japan no matter what.
Maybe Mr. Yoshiki is gearing away from the old or former sounds he used to make and is moving into more... I don't know how to describe it... adaptable??? or acceptable to todays generation?
We know for sure SGZ's music, as well as Pata's and Toshi's, and they are unique in their own rights. Back then, the individuality of hide was easily recognizable and it stood out through his solo career but at that time his songwriting/contributions had also blended well with Mr. Yoshiki's X music.
Today, I am hopelessly looking for that kind of music and I know it ended there with hide. I just hope that SGZ and Pata and Toshi could add more spice to the future songs of X Japan. But still.... we are >>>>>>> X
Hey don't forget Heath! :D
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ohh yah... I stand corrected... thanks obi325
also Heath....
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The first thing that popped into my mind when watching this song was when Dahlia was preformed at the year end 1994 concerts. The song is very unpolished and still needs some work. but as we all know Yoshiki takes forever writing songs so it was nice that they did preform it almost to say "Yes we are working on something, please be patient".
I think alot of the complaints about the song are well founded, but really can't be addressed. Yoshiki has been writing Violet UK songs since X Japan disbanded, so its not a huge shock that the song does infact sound like a Violet UK song.
The problem of the song sounding plain stems from two issues:
A) Hide no longer present as a song writer and as a result the guitar sounds quite boring, this can be fixed assuming Sugizo is allowed input into songs.
B)Toshi's vocal range isn't what it used to be (obvious from the preformance of Dahlia), this isn't necessarily a bad thing but Toshi does need to work on smoothing out his voice.
As I said it really isn't a bad song persay, but it is very unpolished, I'm sure it'll sound better towards the end of the year
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Actually you could easily look at the 2nd day of the Hong kong lives and see that Toshi's vocal range is basically just as good as it used to be.
Just because he messed up on a song doesn't mean his vocal range is gone, never the same, can't be done again. We've heard him singing high ranged songs and even some of dahlia at the hong kong concerts and he sounded as good as ever, and apparently his voice improved a lot on the 3rd of May.The problem he had with Dahlia on May 2nd was the same problem he had with Silent Jealousy in 12/30/1993. Toshi just seems to have days where his voice randomly craps out, and days where his vocal range is perfect, that's the way Toshi has always been.
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Meh, the the song is OK. Not what I hoped for though. Hopefully this is just like the first version of scars. They'll tweak it and make it better. But yes we need a big old injection of old X into this bland music era...
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It has potential but this live version is very rough. Of course its the first time that they have played it live.
When we hear a studio version I think we can grasp/understand the song better.
I think if we heard "I.V" played live first before the studio version then we might have felt the same way about that song.
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Maybe X Japan should have spended the year(s) after the reunion in the studio instead of this world tour thing, that is just an asian tour. First releasing I.V on itunes, not even as an normal single, and now playing this new song live that doesnt sound more than "half done". Concerts with the setlists that could have been from 1994, i dunno. I wish there would be more new stuff, or atleast finished stuff. I know Yoshiki is a perfectionist and thats why we never get any new singles or albums, but Jade sounded live like he had composed it on a single afternoon when he had a hangover. But i like the chorus WHEN its a studio version with alot of string arrangements.
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Am I the only one who likes it? Not everything these guys make have to be perfect ya know >.>
Anyways, we haven't even heard a recorded version yet. Stop complaining.
Also has anyone heard this? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh0ous2Vgic) It sounds like an early recorded version, kinda like something you'd hear on a demo tape or Rose & Blood...
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Am I the only one who likes it? Not everything these guys make have to be perfect ya know >.>
Anyways, we haven't even heard a recorded version yet. Stop complaining.
Also has anyone heard this? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh0ous2Vgic) It sounds like an early recorded version, kinda like something you'd hear on a demo tape or Rose & Blood...
It's a pretty good cover! If you look at the Youtube info box it says: Vo.:TAKITO/ALL Gt,Ba.and Dr:職人ofjoytoy/Key:kanappe
So I guess a couple people just listened to JADE over and over and then played it?
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Rumors has it that the new album will be on sale May 30, the same day of the Taiwan concert. also explained why they rushed the recording of Jade and had only 1 rehearsal but still insisted on performing in both concerts.
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Rumors has it that the new album will be on sale May 30, the same day of the Taiwan concert. also explained why they rushed the recording of Jade and had only 1 rehearsal but still insisted on performing in both concerts.
Isn't album suppoused to be before end of this year (May 30th is way to soon knowing yoshiki)
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as far as I remember yoshiki said before summer 2009
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Yoshiki stated in his interview in Shezuan that the album will be released in the summer.
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New album or best of ?
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Yoshiki stated in his interview in Shezuan that the album will be released in the summer.
It's till the end of year now
New album or best of ?
+some new songs (I.V. , without you, Jade)
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Ok thanks ! I still hope they make a new album with only new songs (including the 3 we already know of course) !
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Ok thanks ! I still hope they make a new album with only new songs (including the 3 we already know of course) !
Hope dies last :)
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Hope dies last :)
Yeah, but unfortunately dies xD
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Hope dies last :)
Yeah, but unfortunately dies xD
Oy! Be a bit more optimistic!! XD
Let's just wait and see what things become.... and in the mean time, we'll support X as good as we can!
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after listening to the song for the 5893510384028 times, I must say that I just hate (maybe I should say I don't like) the guitar + drum part in the very beginning and also the guitar part around 3:50. It's just too.....empty ?? (don't know how to say it) I really hope that the studio version will be better........
well, I think we definitely miss hide's ability in making a song in a more X-ish way. I have the feeling that Yoshiki tries to write a more ROCK song but it failed in this case. Oh, how I miss that kind of songs in VV and BB. Or just because after 20 years, Yoshiki feels like to write another kind of music and my taste just stay behind as 20 years ago. I love all the ballads, maybe Yoshiki can rewrite this song as a ballad, with Sugizo's violin. The melody & lyric of Jade has the potential to be a good ballad....
well, just my opinion, and I have no idea what I was talking about.... I feel lost.... :'( sorry
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More delays on top delays...
And don't feel alone magucathy, I think all of us want new songs in the vein of their work in VV and BB. Though we have to come to terms with the fact that that most likely will not happen. With hide gone and all... man if hide were still alive I can only imagine what his career would've been like, what kind of new songs would be out now... and the band would've been much happier as a whole.
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Well personally I really like those guitar parts (those you don't like) ! Really good heavy riff imo. It doesn't really sound like what X did before (well except I.V.), but it's normal. I guess X fans were surprised when they first heard some songs on Dahlia which are really differents than the older stuffs.
I really like the way the band "evolves" personally :) I really don't like when bands get stuck in the same old things (such as AC / DC for example, they are good, but I get bored really fast 'cause it always sounds the same). So no VV or BB for me, I want some totally new stuffs, and that what we're getting for now, so I'm more than happy :D
Though, I'd like more guitar solo 'cause both Pata and Sugizo are great guitar players and could make some really REALLY nice stuffs !
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Yea I hope the album has atleast one song written/composed by other members. I think through that, we could get some cool songs.
Hopefully through these songs about hide this has lifted some burden off of Yoshiki's shoulders. Hopefully he will move on from making songs of mourning to songs of celebration in remembrance of the great times he had with X and hide as well!
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http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20090505-00000501-sanspo-ent
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Everything was put forth completely in the stage, and it gave it candidly according to coverage though the voice was he, and a threadbare condition.
First of all, to the re-start by six people through a secession riot of HEATH of the base, a guitar of LUNA SEA, and a formal joining of SUGIZO｢X is six people after all. There is no such band. Drum..piano..guitar..play violin.｣I seem to have felt response solving. This matter is referred for the first time though Seven Days to a Killing with the belonging office of HEATH endeavored. ｢It was good. Because it was not the trouble between members. When 'I do not want to do by X' is heard from HEATH, 'I want to do' :. It is only it. ｣With a smile. However, holding the performance now is obediently confessed to be being not able "Thought". The tone was strengthened about the development in the future , saying that "Well, it is thought that it was possible to go by this member" though it was said, "Slept because the member changed about 20 times until hardening to an initial member".
Moreover, it is at the first in the day to complete new song "Jade" announced first by the dome performance before it performs. ｢Lyrics are the first though made when the tune visits a grave at last year's hide summit. It is a combination [washitanomo] the first every six people. Poetry is composed corresponding and [mashita] of the hurly-burly. ｣With enough impishness. About the best album that the sale is paid to attention｢The new song is good at total of four 'Jade'. In both a Japanese version and an overseas version schedule overseas versions put out, an English tune is Maine. I want to put it out as soon as possible. ｣[Mashita] . ..enthusiastic..
It is candid up to now many times, anything is comprehensible in the opening, and the spoken posture is ..word of respect.. exhausted though I was allowed to cover in spite of the superman nature artist. YOSHIKI catches a glimpse of the fan, and it always thinks, and producer's face is caught of a glimpse the first by joints besides not grudging the time to the improvement of the band and music even as for the [korabo] proposal of how to see it, the enterprise, and the character of the entire stage. A wide companion relation is valued, and it also has surprising energy prompting in one's decisions.
When having thought of the talk while hearing it is love of this person of music really, and the best fan of X JAPAN. And, it was able to have good feeling in the point to work with the gratitude whose the thing was advanced as I thought because it was being supported by a surrounding staff and you of the fan always kept very much.
The Tokyo Dome performance : to 18 times of most in the performance in the history of the rock band of Japan now. Though it was made writing a lot of recognizances like the starting time and X jump, etc. from the dome side｢Every time, because I want to do the concert that remains in the memory 1 piece piece, it is thought that this is the end. Therefore, it feels it. revive 18 times20 times. ?I want to do. However, X jump has been done and it doesn't exist …. However, the starting time by all means even if you defend. Because vigour comes out when everyone's face is seen …｣It solved and the desire was shown.
About the chronic disease such as the cervical disc herniations and the vaginal synovitis｢It is safe. It is feeling because it strengthens the body that has been forged for ten years. ｣A reassuring remark also ..solving.. :. Postponed performances in foreign countries also promise holding. ｢The United States where home exists wants to do absolutely. However, because it is the severest place, I want to attack it from Asia, Europe or the outside. However, if it is this member, is it safe?｣｡The activity of evolving X JAPAN in the future is the enjoyment
So there are going to be 4 new songs and 2 versions of the CD (Japan - more japanese lyrics and overseas)
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My impression (with laptop speakers) is that it's not that good... I hope the studio version sounds better. Right now it's kind of... empty...
I have to agree with you, Sander... It seems.... extremely lackluster... and it's not your laptop speakers... or my speakers suck as well.....
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after listening to the song for the 5893510384028 times, I must say that I just hate (maybe I should say I don't like) the guitar + drum part in the very beginning and also the guitar part around 3:50. It's just too.....empty ?? (don't know how to say it) I really hope that the studio version will be better........
well, I think we definitely miss hide's ability in making a song in a more X-ish way. I have the feeling that Yoshiki tries to write a more ROCK song but it failed in this case. Oh, how I miss that kind of songs in VV and BB. Or just because after 20 years, Yoshiki feels like to write another kind of music and my taste just stay behind as 20 years ago. I love all the ballads, maybe Yoshiki can rewrite this song as a ballad, with Sugizo's violin. The melody & lyric of Jade has the potential to be a good ballad....
well, just my opinion, and I have no idea what I was talking about.... I feel lost.... :'( sorry
I think that the band...(what's there..) need to just cohesively work as a unit on this song... cuz it sounds badly like.. everyone is playing their own thing... and Toshi is lost in a sea of broken riffs. I'm not keen on it.... at all. A friend of mine and I listened to it... and we both agree... at this point in time... It.... kinda.. reeks
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Ugh, this sounds like a failed attempt to rewrite I.V. I'm really disappointed. The orchestrations are pretty neat I guess, but that's about it. The guitar riffs are ridiculous. Yoshiki, I miss your harmonic guitars and kick-ass drumming. :(
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i love it and im tired of people saying it sucks i dont like this i dont like that then dont listen to it no ones making you listen to it. the bass line is sick finally a song that shows heath skills. the lyric are beautiful. you can tell the songs about hide. toshi sings it so well yea he messes up a lil because the song is NEW. i love the song so much i decided to name my baby JADE. remeber how many didnt like I.V. and still dont. plan and simple if you dont like it then just forget the song was even made while the rest of us rock the hell out.
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i love it and im tired of people saying it sucks i dont like this i dont like that then dont listen to it no ones making you listen to it. the bass line is sick finally a song that shows heath skills. the lyric are beautiful. you can tell the songs about hide. toshi sings it so well yea he messes up a lil because the song is NEW. i love the song so much i decided to name my baby JADE. remeber how many didnt like I.V. and still dont. plan and simple if you dont like it then just forget the song was even made while the rest of us rock the hell out.
People are allowed to criticise. X Japan is my favourite band and I sure as hell won't just shut up and forget if they make a crappy song, I don't want to hear crappy songs from my favourite band when I see them live etc. If it bothers you so much, just ignore the criticism, it's not aimed towards you anyways.
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It looks like other people besides me have the same kind of feeling as me.
I don't particularly dislike the song, but I don't think it's that good either.
When I.V. came out I initially was quite surprised since it was different from other X songs, but I slowly grew to like it.
The same is not happening with Jade, it just seems like a work in progress that hasn't been finished yet or something.
I don't know, maybe the studio version will be better.
I'm sorry if I upset anyone but I just wanted to give my opinion on the matter like Hurley and a lot of other people did.
I also miss the harmonic guitars and kick-ass drumming btw.
That's what got me into X in the first place.
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I understand wearex316. It's boring to see all the negative comments just because "it's not like before".
But of course, this is a forum, everybody can give their opinion, no prob, but I understand that sometimes some members are just bored or pissed off 'cause of all the negative comments. It's no big deal.
Personally, most of the time, I ignore the criticism. Each to his own taste. It's not because some people don't like the song that it means it's a bad song or that I can't like it.
I like X JAPAN as a band, I like its music, but I'm not analyzing every second of the song, I listen to it, I like it, or I don't like it, that's it. As it's a band I really like, if I don't like a song, I'll listen to it more to see if I like it better then.
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i know people are allowed to criticize. but im tired of it. everyone always gives them the shit end of the deal. you think its easy to sit at your friends grave a write a song. if yoshiki likes the song then really thats all that matters. and if you dont like it get over it and move on. not everyone likes desprite angel but everyone moved on. same with I.V. and tears alot of people hate tears but they just dont listen to it. Jade is there new song and theres nothing anyone can do about it. so you can compalne about the song and go nowheres or you can enjoy the song and be happy. but youll probably just yell at me and tell me not to listen to the critisim. which i wont listen. CAUSE JADE IS HERE TO STAY. MY JAAAAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
sorry i dont want to piss anyone off but im tired of people talking down on X. whith all the problems that were going on with X. they dont need us to trash them they need us to suppot them. We are X so lets act like it. so stop trashing the song cause i dont like the intro or i dont like this. just enjoy it.
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People are allowed to criticise. X Japan is my favourite band and I sure as hell won't just shut up and forget if they make a crappy song, I don't want to hear crappy songs from my favourite band when I see them live etc. If it bothers you so much, just ignore the criticism, it's not aimed towards you anyways.
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there my favorite band too but every band has crappy songs. plus im sure this is not the first song you didnt like by them. and probably wont be the last.
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for everyone that likes JADE I uploaded the audio rips and the videos of both nights of the song
here
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WYJCETKH
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not sure if that has been posted before but here are the lyrics for JADE
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Jade -X Japan-
Lyrics
Roam through the life to find a shadow
The flame of light, feel it disappear
Sank to the darkness in it’s end
Was it your secret?
Stop holding your fear
Let memory regret, die alone
Oh will you be there,
There shows you how it’s free, ’till you feel alive
‘Cause you are beautiful, your scars are beautiful, Like the jade
You’ll still shine, when you sink into the sea
When all the bleeding scarlet jealousy goes away with me
Make dawn of mind without the night, looking through the eyes of fallen angels
Sink like a stone into the dark where no light can touch
Then go back my vault, I’ll be in mystery
Tries to take me alone to the end of the world
Where I still believe, Jade
Hold your light ‘Cause you are beautiful
Your glow was beautiful, yesterday
I still hide, at the scene of memories
Oh I still hold my rosary beneath the way of life
Will you feel where the bloody face of love to break away, escape
Flows like the stars of the sky
Walk in the ocean out of mind
Makes me wanna die together as heaven
Ah, another day has come, another self has gone to the flame
It’s burning love
自分で切り裂いた 胸の傷跡さえ 未来になる 迄
‘Cause you are beautiful, your scars are beautiful like the jade
You’ll still shine, when you sink into the sea
While all the bleeding scarlet jealousy goes away with…
Our love forever, You’ll believe, Leave your mystery, In your heart
My Jade
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i was at the 5/3 concert...my first time hearing JADE
before 5/3, my friends told me it is a rock-ballad-rock-ballad-fast-slow-fast-slow song....
no idea how it would be like
but then...when i heard they played it live....my brain just went empty (though i was still waving the light sticks like everyone else did...)
my feeling was
intro >> ok...great intro
toshi started to sing >> ok...that's I.V. style...shd be great
then came to the chorus >> .........blue sky heaven ?!???!!
i didnt like it at the first time honestly....a bit disappointed
but when i was home and youtubed that again
i started to like it ( i dunno if i m biased...like if the song was sang by another band...emmm..e.g. luna sea..would i still like it as i do now...)
some people critized toshi's voice and vocal range....emmmmm...i thought...this song seems sounded plaine though...that was somehow difficult to sing as you gotta hold the high notes and the interval was pretty wide ~ so i would give credit to toshi for his vocal work to make this song more alive ~~
after reading the lyrics...i gotta like it more....i dunno ~ i thought that's sth related to hide ??? i felt their love to hide in this song ~
did yoshiki say anythg abt the story of JADE ?? ~
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So there are going to be 4 new songs and 2 versions of the CD (Japan - more japanese lyrics and overseas)
1 new song(+I.V., Jade, Without you) or 4?:):):D?
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anyone hear of a date for realese yet? i gotta say so far this year is gonna be the best new X songs new X album X in the US and im gonna have a baby it all equals one hell of a year. i cant wait. maybe the album realese and my baby being born happens on same day. that be awesome anyway sorry to get offtopic.
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About the chronic disease such as the cervical disc herniations and the vaginal synovitis｢It is safe. It is feeling because it strengthens the body that has been forged for ten years. ｣
Good to hear Yoshiki's vagina is still intact. Keep doing those kegel clenches, my boy.
It seems the overall reaction to JADE has been "meh". At least it's something I suppose. I still keep hoping for X to pick themselves up and get on with it.
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@wearex316: use commas, please T_T
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@wearex316, we are all X Freaks and we love X, that's why it brings us all together to this very forum : to share our love and support to the band. ;) Surely, everyone here has his/her own favorite or dislike, and we are free to say it out loud (isn't it the spirit of X?) So, hope that you won't get too upset if some of us said something negative about the song.Personally, I don't like some parts but I still like the song, that's why I have listened to it non stop for 3895479879 times.
Good to hear that you will name your baby Jade, it's just a beautiful name! (you may consider to print the baby room in green, it I were you, I will do so!) ::)
@holly.x : thanks for posting that yahoo link and the translation..... ha..ha... after reading the whole thing, I have no idea what I've just read... ha..ha.. ;D ;D ;D But, the last line caught my attention: are they going to release the album in two versions?? :o one with more Japanese and the other English??? anyway, I am sure all of us will buy both. I hope that we will get more news about this soon......
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i know and im sorry if i upset everyone but i really wasnt talking about anyone in this forum. i was mainly talking about the comments i read on youtube and xradicaldreamers. just seems like everywhere i go someones trashing them for this song. and like everyone i didnt like it at first but as i kept listening to it it just seem to get better. and it just sucks cause you really cant judge this song until a studio version is realesed. and to make things worse im arguing with someone on wether they should keep using hide's playbacks. which they should by they way.
so sorry once again.
and thats an awesome idea. i think i will do just that. Jade would make a beautiful color for a room.
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i just got a Lil info on the song. someone just told me this. but a lil while ago yoshiki had an interview where he said he wants to write music that will help suicide victim families. and the lyrics definitely fit that.
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^i think that somebody mixed two things, one is creating some charity thing about suicide which he said before the hk shows and another one is music for therapy in hospitals, something he says he will do when he retires
and it wouldn't make sense yoshiki composing songs about no-suicide, when he has songs like I.V. (should i trade the breath of my life for freedom?)
oh, and if you have any problem with xradical, say it there, not here
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I've been listening to this more and trying to actually listen to whats going on musically rather than the performance of the song, and it sounds good, the orchestration, the heavy guitar riffs, the melody.
It's disappointing that people are being so negative about the song, based on a rough first performance.
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Well a "rough" first performance is all we have to base our opinions on. I for one am sure that they will make this song better in the studio as well as the lives. There definitely room for improvement on the song, and I'm sure Yoshiki is aware of this and will do his best to make the song better.
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magucathy, yeah Yoshiki said there will be 2 versions of albums. actually that's excite japan's translation and it's too long to type it myself in English. Never knew the translation was that bad. But the story basially mentioned Yoshiki wrote lyrics of the song in a day May 1 last year after he went to hide's tomb and the final recording/mixing was completed in a day before the concert. dunno if the 4 news songs including Without You, IV, Jade and one other song but more english songs on overseas version.
He also mentioned that despite his injury records, he's been doing a lot of strengthening exercise so he hoped that's ok and he's looking forward to the concerts. And he hope that he could sign more contracts for the TD concerts even they had done that 18 times, a record as well.
Oh I want that too. Have been missing Tokyo Dome a bit. cant wait till the next concerts there myself. hopefully they will perform at the Osaka Kousien as planned in October.
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Okay... correction... THIS first hearing of Jade... isn't what I would have hoped it to be.
I don't expect the traditional X sound... but I also didn't expect an amature sounding song from a very mature band
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Come on guys.. OK maybe it could have been rehearsed stronger.. but then again, no matter how many times you practice, I'm sure they would still feel some pressure when playing it for the first time. Yes they are a very mature band as Ryo-Ohki said, but the first time Guns N' Roses started playing "Chinese Democracy" songs live, they didn't all sound so perfect either.
(And just for the record, I am not criticizing GNR, they are probably the only other band that I am enjoying following as much as X Japan now.. just pointing out a similarity here..)
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So true about GN'R !
Guns N' Roses Chinese Democracy second time played live :
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVmMggJaMk4[/youtube]
Compare it to the final version o_O they added a long intro, they added a second lead guitar during the whole track, they changed a bit the drums, they added a second guitar solo etc... etc...
But well, this was in 2001, the CD got released 7 years after !!!
I doubt JADE will change much if the CD get released this month ! And well, I don't care as I like it how it is :D
And be, you have great musical taste ;D
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Thanks Lucs you too :)
But the point is that, even the first time they played "There Was A Time" at Hammerstein, it sounded messed up, and the second time they played it at Madrid or wherever it was, it didn't sound so great either. And the arrangement of the song has not changed much compared to the song "Chinese Democracy".
Sorry for going slightly off the topic here other X Japan fans, but I'm just trying to point this similarity here. It's not fault of X Japan. Many bands have similar issue. Even Metallica, when they played "Death Magnetic" songs live the first time, sounded sloppy.
Anyway, so the point is, give them more chance, and I know that the more they play it, they will become more confident with it.
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Thanks Lucs you too :)
But the point is that, even the first time they played "There Was A Time" at Hammerstein, it sounded messed up, and the second time they played it at Madrid or wherever it was, it didn't sound so great either. And the arrangement of the song has not changed much compared to the song "Chinese Democracy".
Sorry for going slightly off the topic here other X Japan fans, but I'm just trying to point this similarity here. It's not fault of X Japan. Many bands have similar issue. Even Metallica, when they played "Death Magnetic" songs live the first time, sounded sloppy.
Anyway, so the point is, give them more chance, and I know that the more they play it, they will become more confident with it.
I agree 100%. You can tell, by listening to both performances of JADE that the second night had improved already, with the drums sounding more in line with the guitars compared to the first night.
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I found those lyrics :
Walk through the line to find a shadow
Look it out of my life, feel it disappear
Sank in the dark where nothing was helped
Was it your secret?
Stop holding your fear
Let memory live and die alone
All you need is to be there
Let your desires scream
Until you feel alive
'Cause you are beautiful
Your scars are beautiful like a jade
You still shine
When you sink into the sea
Where the bleeding scarlet jealousy
Cause the way you'll be
Make wounds on the mind without your light
Looking into the eyes of fallen angel
Sink like a stone into the dark
Where no light can touch
You're gone
Break my fault
I feel the mystery
Tries to take me along
To the end of the world where I still believe
Close your eyes
'Cause you are beautiful
Your flowers are beautiful yesterday
I still hide
At the scene of memory
Oh, I still hold my rosary
Beneath the days of life
Feel the tears
What is a bloody phrase of love?
You'll then take away, to escape
Flow like the stars of the sky
Walk in the ocean
The art of life
Makes me wanna die in color of heaven
Ah, another day has gone
Another self has gone into the flame
It's burning love
自分で切り裂いた胸の傷跡さえ美麗になるまで
'Cause you are beautiful
Your scars are beautiful like a jade
You still shine
When you sink into the sea
Where the bleeding scarlet jealousy
Cause the way you'll be
Now and forever
You'll be alive
Left your mystery
Beloved my jade
They look like they are correct
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where did you found it?
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On a japanese blog called X experience or something (too lazy to check the name ^^')
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X Japan Experience (http://xjapanx.blog.shinobi.jp/)
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X Japan Experience (http://xjapanx.blog.shinobi.jp/)
tnx for link =)
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I hope they do a full Japanese version and an English verison of the song. The single line of Japanese lyrics are my favorite and most beautiful part of the song yet Yoshiki wrote in japanese... XD
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Can someone please explain what that one line of Japanese lyric mean in English ? Thanks.
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I think those translated lyrics are to engrish, not the proper lyrics, Yoshiki's english is too good now for him to right lyrics with lots of engrish sentances, he's written many Violet UK songs in english that make a lot more sense, and I.V's lyrics made a lot more sense then these translated lyrics.
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Can someone please explain what that one line of Japanese lyric mean in English ? Thanks.
Ok my lousy Japanese translation, hope this helps:
自分で切り裂いた (JIBUN DE KIRI SA I TA)= cut myself open
胸の傷跡さえ = (MUNE NO KIZUATO SA E) = the scars of my chest
未来になる 迄 =(MIRAI NI NARU MADE) will still exist till the future
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That live version sounds shit. They're definitely capable of making something better than this crap. Even IV was better....
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i love this song i still have to hear it a hundred times a day. i think its just as good as i.v. but still not as good as the older stuff but still its awsome its just there style now.
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i think the 5/3 performance is not bad....
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wearex316, yes, I am with you, I still have to hear it nonstop everyday!
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I've listened to it a lot and I can enjoy the song to a certain degree, but it's not the guitars that captures my attention, it's mostly Toshi.
It feels like the song is rocky just to be rocky, like Yoshiki wrote sometime ago, "I wanna rock!". As Hurley previously pointed out, the guitar harmonies are missing, and I feel that there's too much emphasis on the chorus. Plus, the absence of a guitar solo saddens me.
They can do much better.
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I've listened to it a lot and I can enjoy the song to a certain degree, but it's not the guitars that captures my attention, it's mostly Toshi.
It feels like the song is rocky just to be rocky, like Yoshiki wrote sometime ago, "I wanna rock!". As Hurley previously pointed out, the guitar harmonies are missing, and I feel that there's too much emphasis on the chorus. Plus, the absence of a guitar solo saddens me.
They can do much better.
same..it's toshi made this song alive ~
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Think this song is well in a raw form and the more hear it the more people will like it as I have found with new songs tends to happen. I notice a people think this song is about hide...I so never picked that up reading the lyrics hmm? Anyway its new and well new is good.
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This song's not more diffirent than I.V before,it belongs X-Japan 2nd Version's music style and i think i like it as well as I.V^_^
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Yes, X Japan's style in music has changed slightly, but bear this in mind; Yoshiki hadn't thought of composing music for X Japan for almost a decade. His taste in music, like every other person here, would have changed, in turn changing the style he composes in. There style needed to change to keep them fresh, making it easier for new fans to enjoy, and the fact that they have decided they want to try and break into the western market also changes things, i.e. more english songs and, as seen in most of their recent concerts, more english songs being exposed live, in particular, AOL and I.V.
Just my thoughts...
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found a better live bootleg of Jade (May 2nd 2009)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvM42D9YycI&feature=related
you can hear Sugizo's guitar part ...
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I have the same sound in the live video of 3rd i've got ^^ But the vid is so cool =) thX
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Yes, X Japan's style in music has changed slightly, but bear this in mind; Yoshiki hadn't thought of composing music for X Japan for almost a decade. His taste in music, like every other person here, would have changed, in turn changing the style he composes in. There style needed to change to keep them fresh, making it easier for new fans to enjoy, and the fact that they have decided they want to try and break into the western market also changes things, i.e. more english songs and, as seen in most of their recent concerts, more english songs being exposed live, in particular, AOL and I.V.
Just my thoughts...
uhm ne...i think your thought is not wrong at all..btw,i have a clearly discrimination between X-Japan of past and current X-Japan,i think they both are diffirent and i accept them both but..don't accept that they're one!
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X Japan has grown too old to make songs about having sex and orgasms unfortunately. It'd be too weird to see them make a song about it now. It makes sense.
VV and BB were albums that were made when the band was relatively young, maybe in their twenties. Art of life came along and their sound matured. Then Dahlia came along and their sound changed a lot.
So it is only an inevitability that they would song different almost fifteen years after Dahlia. So we shouldn't set our hopes up for something in the vein of BB or VV, something along the lines of their last album is good enough.
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yeah jade is a piece of art
i love it
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I was very disappointed when I first time heard it.
Kind of growing now.. I think. :P
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In the beginning I didn't really like it. I guess I was disappointed that it sounded so similar to Violet UK, and I didn't like the guitar solo.^^''' Well, I like the song now, eXcept the guitar solo xD and the lyrics is really beautiful :D
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X Japan has grown too old to make songs about having sex and orgasms unfortunately. It'd be too weird to see them make a song about it now. It makes sense.
VV and BB were albums that were made when the band was relatively young, maybe in their twenties. Art of life came along and their sound matured. Then Dahlia came along and their sound changed a lot.
So it is only an inevitability that they would song different almost fifteen years after Dahlia. So we shouldn't set our hopes up for something in the vein of BB or VV, something along the lines of their last album is good enough.
The sound of the music and the way the riffs and solos are written does not always have to reflect what the lyrics are about, Standing Sex could easily have lyrics that aren't about sex but still work with the sound of the song, so I'm sorry but that's not a good reason for why the band's changed their style.
Also You're acting as if just because they're getting older they have to make music which represents their age/maturity, that's not true, also I feel Jade's & I.V's riffs are the only ones that feel immature of X' songs because they sound like they're trying to be cool. Once again I have to point out, Iron maiden, who are still making kickass metal tunes like they were in the 80's. Age should have no factor on what songs they make except for wether its physically draining, but that shouldn't be a problem either seeing as, again, Iron Maiden & heaven and Hell still do world tours with setlists full of classic metal songs and they're as old as 50-70 years of age.
I should probably stop commenting around the forums about this or it'll seem like I'm spamming or getting on a lot of people's nerves.
As for Jade, I've made my point clear about the new direction of X-Japan's live setlists and their new songs, however Jade is not bad, its okay, I think in the studio version they should speed up the riff, make it sound lighter (I'm no good with termanology), and majorly extend the guitar solo that Sugizo did on the 3rd of May version, give the song a long solo that suits the song, like how the Dahlia solo suited the song.
Yoshiki probably wont listen to any of this and the song will stay exactly as it is, but its worth trying to suggest something.
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The sound of the music and the way the riffs and solos are written does not always have to reflect what the lyrics are about, Standing Sex could easily have lyrics that aren't about sex but still work with the sound of the song, so I'm sorry but that's not a good reason for why the band's changed their style.
what's your point?
Also You're acting as if just because they're getting older they have to make music which represents their age/maturity, that's not true, also I feel Jade's & I.V's riffs are the only ones that feel immature of X' songs because they sound like they're trying to be cool.
You misunderstood me. I'm not saying that because their older they MUST make songs that reflect their maturity. I'm merely observing and making inferences on why X is not making any songs reminiscent of their earlier years. The evidence which I have already provided through the sound progressions of their albums.
I should probably stop commenting around the forums about this or it'll seem like I'm spamming or getting on a lot of people's nerves.
You're getting on nobody's nerves bud, don't worry about it.
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i like the lyrics but the guitar solo is mostly just noise :(, hopefully they can tweak the song a tiny bit and make it really good
EDIT: sorry didn't mean to say guitar solo, just the guitar
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i like the lyrics but the guitar solo, is mostly just noise :(,
You call that solo? :lol:
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4dgbndAUWo[/youtube]
VERY GOOD analysis and interpretation of Jade!! I really wasn't happy about JADE at all! After I've watched this i both liked (because of all the deliberately references and simitarities which are in this song) and disliked (another hide tribute...) this song :D
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Luckily all the references to hide were withing the lines that are accurate, most of the other lyrics are completely wrong.
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I absolutely hate all the "X song" Experience clips on YouTube....so......ah!!!
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Doesn't everybody know this is about hide? Why the need for speculation? Yoshiki openly said that when he visited hide's grave he received the inspiration to make JADE.
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I didn't know Yoshiki said thatl....where did he say it? Though, I was sure it was about hide anyway...or at least, inspired by him.
About the video..is there anything interesting in it that I should know? I tried to watch it but the guy's voice and his calm and gentle way of talking got into my nerves and I stopped.....D:
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^ I heard it on this forum. It was either in the May 2/3rd concert thread or in here.
Nothing of real insight was in that video. He just runs on for 3 minutes saying "yo-shee-kee" and how some of the lyrics sound similar (vaguely) to previous X songs.
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//Long Post// This is especially for Ashemanu, but for everyone else too, but I don't want to bore anyone.. So if you aren't interested in deciphered lyrics or a minor personal analysis, ignore this post.
Reference 1: http://vodpod.com/watch/1583942-x-japan-jade-live
Reference 2: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9800c_x-japan-jade-090502_music
Reference 3: Suzuka filmgig: (1/2 way through)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9OMdznT74g
I agree with Ulquiorra, the lyrics posted in the above video are, for the most part, very wrong. Whoever deciphered them appears unfamiliar with the nuances of English as a Mother tongue. It doesn’t help either that the Japanese have a natural propensity to mold English vowels and consonants so that a word like ‘Heaven’ comes out sounding like ‘Heboon’. The lyrics have also morphed slightly between May and the filmgig in Suzuka.
I spent about 5 hours listening to every stream I could find of this song, playing and replaying it, filtering it through my studio phones with their nifty gold wiring. I also spent a lot of time reading Toshi’s lips. In the end, sound quality is only as good as the actual recording, but with my nifty phones I was able to hear some of the subtle sibilants and soft consonants lost in the usual white noise of laptop speakers. I am also blessed with a system set up for top end quality, but even that didn’t help me on some of the lines. Toshi seems to have been learning the lyrics on the fly and changed them slightly one night to the next. I have marked these with a (?) and where there is a chance the word was plural, I marked it with a (s). Anyone with better ears than me who can get that one line or knows I am wrong? I would love you to fix this.
Jade by X Japan 2009
Deciphered - very slowly and inadequately - by Faestian
Step into the light to find the shadows (sometimes it is look through the light)
The flame (dream?) of life, feel it disappear
Sank into the thought of you with this hand (WTF? Yeah, I know, but it actually makes a teeny more sense than some of the others and if it is right it it could mean the writing of songs.)
Was it your secret?
Stop holding you here (your fear? He eats that vowel on the last word.)
Let memory, regret, die alone
Don’t need to be there,
Set your desires free, ’til you feel alive
‘Cause you are beautiful, your scars are beautiful, like the jade
You still shine, when you sink into the sea
Where the bleeding scarlet jealousy (caused the way you breathed) This changes verse to verse it seems.
(?Okay, this line? I have NO idea and none of the others make any sense?) ...looking through the eyes of falling angels
Sink like a stone into the dark where no light can touch
Will God break my fall?
I feel the Mystery
Try (tries?) to take me along to the end of the world
Where I still believe: Jade
Hold your light
‘Cause you are beautiful
Your star was beautiful yesterday
I still hide in the stream of memories
Oh, I still hold my rosary beneath the ray of light. (veil of lies?)
Will the tears wipe the bloody face of love; will they take away the stains?
Float like the stars of the sky; locked (float?)in the ocean.
The Art of Life
Makes me wanna die in the colour(s) of Heaven (still not sure if ‘Heaven’ is right)
Another day has gone; another friend has gone into the flame
Its burning love: (I used Holly.X’s translation here. Likely means loosely: "Guts me. The scars on my heart will last forever.")
“Cut myself open
The scars of my chest
Will still exist in the future”
Oh, ‘cause you are beautiful, your scars are beautiful like the jade
You’ll still shine when you sink into the sea
Where the bleeding scarlet jealousy drives the way you bleed. (I read his lips on that one.)
Now and forever,
You’ll be alive (loved?),
Let your destiny
Lead your heart
My Jade
I remember in PoliSci when we analyzed Beatles songs for their political undertones and messages. Reading back over this thread, I am put in mind of those old debates. By Jade's lyrics hold far more personal emotion than any political message of course. I found the frantic pounding back beat of drums and guitar akin to the fury and rage I felt when my Dad died, and sometimes still feel; that beat is in perfect time to someone pounding their fist or forehead against a wall in rage. It also put me in mind of some footage I have seen of hide in a temper. Some people have complained that there isn’t enough guitar in the piece. I agree it, is unusual for an X song. But the more I listen to it, the more I find myself thinking that, if this is a song dedicated to a guitarist who was crucial to the band and its sound, a guitarist now dead, the lack of the usual looped in hide riffs and licks is only fitting and that the guitar that has been included sounds like a tempest of rage. Just mho however. I also found the subtle guitar 'solo' very Sugizo and very fitting. It is a new sound, so completely not hide. It is in the background, not quite hidden, but respectfully obvious. I have heard many people say it is time the band got past hide's death and progressed. Perhaps, with Jade, they finally are.
//End Long Post//
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^ Great job, sounds correct from what I can hear.
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I'm sorry but I think your lyrics are inaccurate in a lot of areas as well, you have lines like "your stars are beautiful" when at no point in any version did Toshi pronounce the word with 'st' or an 's' at the end.
"Stream of memories" Toshi didn't pronounce it with a 't' in any of the versions, same with "bloody face of love" Toshi never pronounced it with an 'f' it was clearly 'th' and the middle section had a 'er' sound, not 'ey' so how could it be 'face'? Its cleary 'thirst'.
You have several other mistakes like that in your lyrics, please listen more carefully, I'll post the lyrics of the second half I came up with earlier, also when trying to discover what the lyrics are from the second half of the song you should only listen to the new demo of the studio version.
sink like a stone into the dark,
where no light can touch,
will God break my fall?
I feel the mystery tries to take me alone,
to the end of the world where I still believe,
Together its (something something XD)
Cause you are beautiful,
your glow was beautiful, yesterday,
I still hide at the scene of memories,
oh I still hold my rosary,
beneath the veil of love.
Will the tears, wipe the bloody thirst of love?
will they take away the stain?
cold like the stars of the sky,
blood in the ocean, the art of life makes me wanna die,
in a colour of heaven.
Ah, another day has gone,
another friend has gone, into the flame,
its burning love.
(japanese lyrics)
cause you are beautiful,
your scars are beautiful, like the jade
You'll still shine when you sink into the sea,
Without the bleeding scarlet jealousy,
Cause away you'll bleed.
Ah, now and forever, you'll believe,
let your destiny, lead your heart,
my Jade.
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You know...english isn't my mother tongue so I might be bullshitting here but I have to say this because it's been bugging me.
Instead of 'cold like the stars of the sky' as Ulquiorra says and 'float like the stars of the sky' as Faestian says.....I hear 'Glow like the stars of last night'.........<>_<>'''
And well, concerning the word 'glow' I hear it SO clearly that I'd swear it's this one.
Anyway, feel free to call me deaf or anything of that sort....
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Together its (something something XD)
I think it's a mix of "together as heaven", "hold your light" and "it's burning love"
Instead of 'cold like the stars of the sky' as Ulquiorra says and 'float like the stars of the sky' as Faestian says.....I hear 'Glow like the stars of last night'.........<>_<>'''
And well, concerning the word 'glow' I hear it SO clearly that I'd swear it's this one.
Anyway, feel free to call me deaf or anything of that sort....
I hear "Glow like the stars of the sky"
EDIT...
OMG... This one sentence is really hard... everytime i hear something different... now it's "Grow like the scars of last night" xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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Thanks for clearing up some of lines, Ulquiorra.
You have several other mistakes like that in your lyrics, please listen more carefully, I'll post the lyrics of the second half I came up with earlier,
I didn't say they were accurate. My last line before the song, where I asked for input explains that. This was an exercise in fun and love done for a friend. I know it is hard to 'read' tone in simple words on a screen, so I may have caught yours wrong, but I think 5+ hours with my head shoved into a pair of studio phones listening very intently was long enough. Thanks though. And since they are simply the words that "I came up with" and yours are simply the words that "You came up with" neither is engraved in stone, but together...we might even have a song. :D Until the band releases a libretto, we is stuck.
I used 'stream of memories' both because sometimes Toshi eats his vowels and because it makes as much, if not more sense than 'scheme'. Hell, in one version it sounds like he's saying 'sea', in another 'seam' of memories, so I went with what made sense to me. Hell, at first I thought he was saying 'Your SKIES are beautiful'. And for all I know, he IS. I didn't write it, and for all the love I hold for Toshi, his English accent is abysmal.
I stayed with 'stream' in keeping with the water theme Yoshiki has followed through the lyrics in the song, and I also used 'star' instead of 'glow' because I heard it distinctly albeit in only one of the 12 or so recordings I listened to, and it is in keeping with the theme of 'faith' and the 'heavens'. I also hear 'your glow was beautiful on occasion, as well as 'star. It depends on the night he performed it I did mention that in my post. Toshi seems to have been learning the lyrics on the fly and changed them slightly one night to the next
If I had had friends over I would have been saying: "WHAT did he say there? Here, you listen." And I would have plopped the phones on their head. My ears got tired.
I have not yet heard 'thirst, but you're right, it does make more sense than face and could well be the word. I also very much like 'cold like the stars in the sky, blood in the ocean and they make sense since some of hide's ashes were cast at sea of the Santa Monica pier. Uhm, but what does "Cause away you'll bleed" mean though? (of course a good debater would jump in here and say: But if his ashes were cast at sea, maybe it is 'lost' in the ocean. LOL. Bites anyone?)
Believe me, I am not interested in being the 'one true authority' on the matter. I simply wanted to actually figure out what he was saying for me and my friends because the lyrics posted on the interweb? Were outright ridiculous in some places. English being my mother tongue, (and coughoneIspeakexceedinglywellcough lalalala), none of the versions I'd read made a lick of sense. Yoshiki's English isn't Engrish; that of the 'decipherers' seemed to be, so I set out on a simple journey. For all I know not a single word of my version is correct, but I had fun. ;D
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I used 'stream of memories' both because sometimes Toshi eats his vowels and because it makes as much, if not more sense than 'scheme'. Hell, in one version it sounds like he's saying 'sea', in another 'seam' of memories, so I went with what made sense to me.
I vote for 'seam'... ;)
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you guys are doing a great job on interpreting these lyrics, thanks!
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Thanks everyone for the input! ;D First I want to say I am sorry if I come off 'uppity'. I have been told I have a 'rarified' sense of humour that can be taken the wrong way, like say, as arrogance and conceit? Sorry, I just tend to babble sometimes and trip over my tongue. (mad scientist mode) Sometimes I think the only reason I open my mouth is to change feet, and sometimes I don't do it fast enough so I land on my backside. I apologize if anyone took my previous post as anything other than light-hearted. When I am sincerely angry or hurt? I don't post. I pout. ;)
Back to the song: Listening again to the three links I really noticed the progression from the early concerts to the Suzuka filmgig. Wow, and I love the harmony. So, I said, Uhm, but what does "Cause away you'll bleed" mean though?
This seems out of context with the rest of the song, so I've been thinking...yeah, I know, a bad sign. Could it be 'called away your (something)?" *grabs headphones again.* Oops, wrong system. the sound is atrocious on the DELL, no matter the quality of my phones and the HP is in the other room and I am too lazy today. So maybe, 'Where (or when) the bleeding scarlet jealousy called away your...breathe? (Engrish?) Dreams; Need; ... or maybe even 'caught the way you bleed? Or breathed?" REALLY stretching here, I know.
Thoughts?
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What about 'colours away'...? ^^;
*continues suggesting things only SHE hears*
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What about 'colours away'...? ^^;
Yup, 'Colours away' could work, but then it begs the question, 'colours away what?' lol. I admit this is fun because I love a good puzzle, but I gave it to my son-in-law to have a listen over the weekend. I have the flu and need to sleep and to study. Really, it is just those two lines, the one that makes no sense directly before "Looking through the eyes of falling angels" (although I think I have sussed out 'in the night' or 'of the night' just before 'looking'.) And, of course, the end of the "Where the bleeding scarlet jealousy..." line. As a lyricist and musician, maybe my son-in-law can hear what I can't. He also reminded me that it is common for lyrics to remain fluid until the final tracks are laid down in the studio.
I have to admit, I feel much closer to this song than I did a week ago. lol. :D ;D
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i know it's been like 2 months since anyone posted here but i think the lyrics are "Where the bleeding scarlet jealousy Caused the way you bleed" Well i think they sound like that anyway.
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Can anyone tell me where I can download a copy of "Jade"? It's not coming up in i-Tunes Store or on the Bit Torrent I use.
Thanks.
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It hasn't been officially released yet; from what I know, just live recordings or clips of the studio version recorded from the video show in Japan or from the Hollywood PV filming
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Thanks Ben. I guess that's right. I'll have to be patient!
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sorry that i couldn't give you good news Tanabata, but you can watch a live recording of "Jade" here, the whole song, from when they first played it in concert in Tokyo, or it might have been the second time they played it live; i hope you like it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPTkaYyj5DQ
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Hi Ben,
Thanks for that. I appreciate it.
I was at that Tokyo concert so I was there to hear it for the first time! It has grown on me, but it is by no means an X classic in my eyes.
Thanks again.
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"to the end of the world where I still believe,"
After that line, I heard "again".
Line 3:
"sank through ____________ dance,"
I got these from listening closely to the Jade in Hollywood.
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Hi Ben,
Thanks for that. I appreciate it.
I was at that Tokyo concert so I was there to hear it for the first time! It has grown on me, but it is by no means an X classic in my eyes.
Thanks again.
thats good, no worry, yeah it grew on me a bit as well, and from what you hear on the recordings from the Hollywood filming, the studio version sounds better
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actually, i prefer the guitar solo and drum solo in the middle of jade change into piano, i think it will sounds better
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5WU5PobtS4
love it very much
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I like what I've heard so far from the studio version, they just need to drop those synth drums. Also I think it would have been really cool if they threw in some of Sugizo's violin in there :)
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Someone has grabbed all the footage of the studio version of Jade that has been made availiable and joint it all together to get an idea of the finished product. Not bad;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH4MrlaQtek
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You can now listen to almost the whole song on their official website xjapanmusic.com And the best thing is (drum roll) No more midi drums!!!
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I love it. Much higher than my expectations.
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It Rocks !!!!!! Can't wait for the album !!!!
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I love it....\(^o^)/
But then again, I loved this song from the start...(even though so many people find it mediocre. come onnnn..it needs more love...<3 ).
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God it is a 1000000x times better than the previous version. PUMPED FOR RADIO PLAY.
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Fuck yes! There's quite a few changes in there, but I love where it seems to be going.
The mix is super dry, but that's to be expected for a rough version.
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Wow! I actually really like this!! It shows off their strengths really well. I'm getting psyched. Thanks for the link!! I really didn't care for IV, but it sounds like Yoshiki is finding more ways to compensate for the fact that he can't really drum fast anymore...
I hope this means they're finally starting to promote their tour!
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Finally an X japan page that I can understand!!! :D
Indeed Jade is beautiful, but I found it already beautiful from the beginning!
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Wow! I actually really like this!! It shows off their strengths really well. I'm getting psyched. Thanks for the link!! I really didn't care for IV, but it sounds like Yoshiki is finding more ways to compensate for the fact that he can't really drum fast anymore...
I hope this means they're finally starting to promote their tour!
He can drum fast... The old songs he plays live aren't slowed down any. In fact, I'd say he's actually quite stubborn over it. The new songs just show a change in direction, they're not a speed metal band anymore.
Another example of Yoshiki's stubborn-ness is that bands like Luna Sea transpose their songs into lower keys post-reunion to better accomodate their singers voices (now being older, they naturally lost some their range), X Japan haven't done this at all, so Toshi is forced to sing the same notes he had to sing all those years ago.
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BRILLIANT!
EDIT: Noticed that the version they have of I.V. on that site adds the live intro before switching to the studio version...I like it :)
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BRILLIANT!
EDIT: Noticed that the version they have of I.V. on that site adds the live intro before switching to the studio version...I like it :)
I think this implies that in the new studio version of I.V. they're going to record a version of the 'Live' intro. I think Yoshiki said a while back that Sugizo helped with arranging the new version of I.V., and I guess that's what he meant.
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He can drum fast... The old songs he plays live aren't slowed down any. In fact, I'd say he's actually quite stubborn over it. The new songs just show a change in direction, they're not a speed metal band anymore.
Another example of Yoshiki's stubborn-ness is that bands like Luna Sea transpose their songs into lower keys post-reunion to better accomodate their singers voices (now being older, they naturally lost some their range), X Japan haven't done this at all, so Toshi is forced to sing the same notes he had to sing all those years ago.
I know he still drums like that live, and I REALLY respect that, but it felt like he was purposely not writing songs with lots of double bass because he didn't want to have to play MORE energy-draining songs like that. It's probably just more of a stylistic choice, but I was really disappointed when I first heard IV and it sounded like some random average drummer. It didn't feel very "X". This just sounds more like the band to me... I know the songs are pretty similar, but... Maybe I just really don't like IV.
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Holy crap, Jade is absolutly awesome! so much better than any versions before!
end of first chorus:
"when all the bleeding scarlet jealousy,
carves away your belief".
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I liked it, to a degree. I'm not really sure about the after-sound through the entire song. It played like .5 seconds after, and near the end Toshi's voice and the overlapping started giving me a bit of a headache. I hope they clean that up, or find a better way to put things together. Otherwise, I loved it.
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I like this guitar solo. Is not like the old songs, but it sounds really nice.
This "final mix" even cutting the beggining seems really better than any other Jade demo.
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Damn they took one riff in the opening. xD
But this version is much better than what i expected, but it's called "Final Mix Teaser", a better version maybe for the album ?
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I love this version! ;D
This is one of my favorite X songs!
I can't wait until the new album is released!!!!
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anyone rip this final mix JADe version?
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The only problem I have with Jade is after "in a colour of heaven" Toshi's "oooooooooh's" dip in and out a bit too randomly, it doesn't sound right, I hope that's fixed.
And I actually like that they took the main riff out of the beginning of the song, I never liked it that much.
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I try to rip file but i can not convert swf to mp3.
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Here's a link to the song: http://www.xjapanmusic.com/_content/audio/singles/jade.mp3
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Definitely liking this new version better. They actually have a solo in it :D
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yeah I like the guitar solo as well! sugizo did a good job on it.
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Brilliant!
Toshi's backing harmonies are angelic, 1st guitar solo harmonies since the reunion, and for the 1st time I have a real appreciation for the arrangement. Now I believe it has a right to be the 1st international single.
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Really like this new version! If this is why the album has been delayed then I have no problem waiting until next year! Love Sugizo's work and of course proper drums!!!
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Argh, what happened to the version on the website that didn't cut out before the solo?
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Argh, what happened to the version on the website that didn't cut out before the solo?
I guess they made a mistake by putting the whole thing up. Glad I managed to snag it in time :)
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Lucky you! :P I listened to it on my iPod web browser yesterday, went to listen to it again today and it was the cut version!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIHnKpKAxMM this one??
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Yeesss! Legend. Cheers. :D
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haha I've picked up the full one yesterday as well.. what a luck :D
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http://xjapan-gr.blogspot.com/2010/09/download-x-japan-jade-studio-version.html
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@roseofpain
isn't this link kind of.. illegal? ;)
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download it, hurry up, lol
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@roseofpain
isn't this link kind of.. illegal? ;)
No more than "haha I've picked up the full one yesterday as well.. what a luck "
:P
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@roseofpain
isn't this link kind of.. illegal? ;)
Haha, i'm pretty sure all the North American X fans are criminals. I know I pirated all my X music before I started to purchase official stuff from overseas. :D
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I doubt that any of us WON'T buy the CD when it finally comes out. Right now, we're just placating ourselves with unfinished cuts.
I consider it more of a 'sampling' than being douchebags.
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@roseofpain
isn't this link kind of.. illegal? ;)
Haha, i'm pretty sure all the North American X fans are criminals. I know I pirated all my X music before I started to purchase official stuff from overseas. :D
lol The way I see it is....X fans here in the States have a lack of options.
If I could find the CD's and merchandise I would definitely buy them but that just isn't an option....yet. (Hopefully.)
Until then I have to resort to alternative methods to obtain their wonderful music!
As far as ordering from Over Seas that isn't something that I am able to do just yet.
I live in a very rual area and can't get them to ship out here. >:(
Like they say "Find A Way!" lol ;D
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@roseofpain
isn't this link kind of.. illegal? ;)
Haha, i'm pretty sure all the North American X fans are criminals. I know I pirated all my X music before I started to purchase official stuff from overseas. :D
lol The way I see it is....X fans here in the States have a lack of options.
If I could find the CD's and merchandise I would definitely buy them but that just isn't an option....yet. (Hopefully.)
Until then I have to resort to alternative methods to obtain their wonderful music!
As far as ordering from Over Seas that isn't something that I am able to do just yet.
I live in a very rual area and can't get them to ship out here. >:(
Like they say "Find A Way!" lol ;D
Haha, thats how I see it as well, we have no options here in North America, and I plan on going broke right after I visit the merchandise table at the X show...but i'm just saying, we're criminals, lmao. :D
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If it wasn't for bit torrents and youtube, X wouldn't have many people outside Asia who even know who they are. This is one case of a band that is pretty much touring North America due to most people discovering them on the net in some way or another.
As for Jade, like a couple of people said, is it going to stop US from buying the single/album? Hell no!
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@roseofpain
isn't this link kind of.. illegal? ;)
Haha, i'm pretty sure all the North American X fans are criminals. I know I pirated all my X music before I started to purchase official stuff from overseas. :D
lol The way I see it is....X fans here in the States have a lack of options.
If I could find the CD's and merchandise I would definitely buy them but that just isn't an option....yet. (Hopefully.)
Until then I have to resort to alternative methods to obtain their wonderful music!
As far as ordering from Over Seas that isn't something that I am able to do just yet.
I live in a very rual area and can't get them to ship out here. >:(
Like they say "Find A Way!" lol ;D
Haha, thats how I see it as well, we have no options here in North America, and I plan on going broke right after I visit the merchandise table at the X show...but i'm just saying, we're criminals, lmao. :D
LMAO! Yeah, we are!
The things we will do for X! ;D
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If it wasn't for bit torrents and youtube, X wouldn't have many people outside Asia who even know who they are. This is one case of a band that is pretty much touring North America due to most people discovering them on the net in some way or another.
As for Jade, like a couple of people said, is it going to stop US from buying the single/album? Hell no!
I'm sure that Yoshiki and Co. are fully aware of this and I don't think that they mind it really. As you said it: the fans spreading the news what got them here and gave them a solid following years after they've disbanded. So yeah, I think we are all forgiven (at least for now). :D
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According to this (http://www.ampmagazine.com/4148/x-japan-invades-america/) interview the JADE single will be available from October 1st.
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And I actually like that they took the main riff out of the beginning of the song, I never liked it that much.
Seems on the new shorter preview they have up now, it's still included.
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I heard there was a studio you wanted to track some drums in, but it was booked, so you bought it. If so, that totally rules. How did this all come about?
I was in Los Angeles and everybody was talking about this studio, that it had the best drum-sounding room and I tried to book it. Metallica had booked this studio for almost a year straight [for their "Black" album], so I asked, ‘how about after Metallica,’ but I was told there was a list of bands already who had already booked the studio. So I asked ‘how can I get in?’ and I was told ‘buy the studio’ and I said, ‘OK, I’ll buy it’ and I bought it.
When does the new album come out? Is there a title yet, and who is releasing it?
The band’s new album will be out in 2011, no title yet, haven’t announced the North American label yet. The first single, “Jade” will be available starting October 1.
lol. rich people and stubborn as ever, just buy the studio. hahaha
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Only a few more days until the Jade single is released, but I decided to patch together the two versions of Jade which have been released on the X Japan website in order to give the full song (part of the introduction was removed from the original long version).
Here's the high quality MP3. I left out adding the Piano introduction, as no decent quality clip of it exists on the internet. I did consider using some of my high end VST's to re-create the piano and string introduction (East West Quantum Leap Pianos and Symphonic Orchestra Gold), but in the end I decided not to. It would sound good, but not the same.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=68WLHG6O
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For some reason I was expecting the CD quality that they had back then lol. I'm tearing up at how crystal clear and tolerable it is T_T
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sry if this was already posted but this is the full cd quality version, sooo so much more than what i expected from them http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usvDT_qaZhM
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So, the single's supposed to be available today.
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So, the single's supposed to be available today.
Yeaaaaaah, not a chance in hell XD
I think Yoshiki meant that radio play starts from today? If we were gonna get an Itunes release I'm sure it wouldn't just appear up on there. There would be a lot of promotion from the X Japan website and other official sources of media if the single was going to go on sale.
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Well, that's disappointing. I was looking forward to this all week.
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It still wasnt on any radio? ...why am I not surprised? :D
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It still wasnt on any radio? ...why am I not surprised? :D
... there's still time!
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I haven't listened to our local radio for .. a longgg time haha
If it's available, I'll make phone call requests! xD
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Heres what I have so far for the final lyrics of Jade
the (???) means i cant understand that part
i cant speak or read japanese so im assuming the japanese parts the same
BTW i LOVE the studio version
and so far the lyrics are some of Yoshiki's best english ones I think
Walk through the light to find your shadow
Till your gods throw you from the edge
Sank in the dark to feel the distance
Was it your secret?
Stop holding your fear
Let memory live and die alone
No need to be there,
Let your desire scream, ’till you feel alive
‘Cause you are beautiful, your scars are beautiful, Like the jade
You’ll still shine when you sink into the sea
When the bleeding, scarlet jealousy comes away, believe
Make (dawn of the mind?) the wings of night, looking to the eyes of fallen angels
Sink like a stone into the dark where no light can touch
Will God break my fall?
I feel the mystery tries to take me alone, to the end of the world
Where I still believe (???)
Hold your light ‘Cause you are beautiful
Your (love or blood?) was beautiful, yesterday
I still hide, at the scene of memories
Oh I still hold my rosary beneath the way of life
Will the tears wipe the bloody face of love (???)
Flows like the stars of the sky
Walk in the ocean out of mind
Makes me wanna die (???)
Ah, another day has gone, another self has gone to the flame
It’s burning love
自分で切り裂いた 胸の傷跡さえ 未来になる 迄
‘Cause you are beautiful, your scars are beautiful like the jade
You’ll still shine, when you sink into the sea
When all the bleeding, scarlet jealousy comes away, believe
Our love forever, You’ll believe, Leave your mystery, In your heart
My Jade
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When all the bleeding, scarlet jealousy comes away, believe => When all the bleeding scarlet jealousy calves away your belief
Our love forever, You’ll believe, Leave your mystery, In your heart => Now and forever you'll be loved, Let your destiny lead your heart
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that makes more sense! i thought comes away, believe was off
almost complete lyrics now
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What does 'calves away' mean then...???
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well aside from the noun version which is the plural word for "baby cow" =P
it can also be used as a verb "to break away"
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although it still sounds like comes away, believe...
which i guess can also work but sounds a tad awkward
its X's english though XP
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well aside from the noun version which is the plural word for "baby cow" =P
it can also be used as a verb "to break away"
Mhmm..thanks..XD
I only knew about the baby cows....so...XD
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It's carve(s), for example, carving a piece of wood,or a face on a pumpkin for halloween XD, to basically cut.
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so Jade is still not out???
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so Jade is still not out???
No.
Maybe when he said "released" he meant posted online on their website? I have no idea.
From the sound of it, he only recorded drums for Jade around a week before the "final mix teaser" was posted online.
We probably have a while to wait yet.
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Oops~~~ spelling mistake lol I meant carves...
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Oops~~~ spelling mistake lol I meant carves...
AH.
Makes sense now. XDD
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x japan delay..not surprised...
i hate waiting..seriously!!!!!!!!!!
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x japan delay..not surprised...
i hate waiting..seriously!!!!!!!!!!
just be happy it isnt Guns N' Roses =P
Waiting and soon are dreaded words...
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Here is my best shot at the lyrics! ;D
Walk through the light to find the shadow,
Till your God stole you from the edge,
Sunk in the thought, the feel, the distance,
Was it your secret?
Stop holding your fear, let memory live and die alone.
No need to be there, let your desire scream,
Till you feel alive.
Cause you are beautiful,
Your scars are beautiful,
Like the jade.
You'll still shine, when you sink into the sea,
When the bleeding scarlet jealousy, carves (cause?) the way you believe.
Brink of the light, the wings of the night,
Look into the eyes of fallen angels,
Sink like a stone into the dark,
Where no light can touch.
Will God break my fall?
I feel the mystery, tries to take me along,
To the end of the world, where I still believe,
The colour (is?) from your eyes.
Cause you were beautiful,
Your blood was beautiful, yesterday,
I still hide at the seam of memories,
Oh, I still hold my rosary, beneath the vail of life.
Will the tears, wipe the bloody face of love, will they take away the stain,
Know that the stars of the sky,
Glow in the ocean,
The art of life,
Makes me wanna die in the colour of heaven.
Oh, another day has gone,
Another friend has gone into the flame,
It's burning love, jibun de kirisaita mune no kizuato sae birei ni naru made.
Cause you are beautiful,
Your scars are beautiful, like the jade,
You'll still shine, when you sink into the sea,
When the bleeding scarlet jealously carves (cause?) the way you believe,
Ah, Now and forever, you'll be loved,
Let your destiny lead your heart
My Jade
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So is it Heath doing the backing vocals like in I.V.?
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No, it's Sugizo. In the lives at least. I think they just used another track of Toshi on the recording (Sugizo wasn't in the band yet when they recorded it).
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^Yup, in the studio version, Toshi is just harmonizing with himself. I really like this style actually.
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gah! every time i see a new post on this i keep hoping its about it being release or the PV came out...and every time i am disappointed lol
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gah! every time i see a new post on this i keep hoping its about it being release or the PV came out...and every time i am disappointed lol
Me too, haha! Also Jade has seriously grown on me since it's release. I didn't like it at all really until they changed it up a bit and added the real drums. It's my fav. song at the moment.
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Ugh, same here. Come on already, when is this single getting released! Waiting for the album is already torture, but throw us a bone already!
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lol..this is X JAPAN. Waiting is part of the deal. If they released anything, we'd be so shocked so that we couldn't buy it on release day, because of it actually being released.
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Speak for yourself, I'd be there release day! ;)
Yeah, I'm very familiar with their "make everyone wait for everything" trend. But still, that doesn't mean it's any easier to remain patient about it! haha
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Speak for yourself, I'd be there release day! ;)
Yeah, I'm very familiar with their "make everyone wait for everything" trend. But still, that doesn't mean it's any easier to remain patient about it! haha
Being an X Japan in the post-reunion era means being a very patient person. It takes a very long time, but stuff does happen...eventually...we waited...and waited...and waited, and then BAM! North American Tour!!...now for the long wait for that album..
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I think I (or rather, people at another X forum) have found the official lyrics, someone recorded the video on a pachinko machine which had the lyrics on them, so I'm assuming these are the official lyrics. Thank God we finally know what Toshi's saying just before the second chorus.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JP6gsjcU-ho[/youtube]
Walked through the light to find your shadow
Til your God stole you from the edge
Sunk in the thought to feel the distance
Was it your secret?
Stop holding your fear
Let memory live and die alone
No need to be there
Let your desire scream ‘til you feel alive
‘Cause you are beautiful
Your scars are beautiful
Like the Jade
You’ll still shine
When you sink into the sea
Where the bleeding scarlet jealousy
Carves away your belief
Made of the lime, the wings of the night
Look into the eyes of fallen angels
Sink like a stone into the dark
Where no light can touch
Will God break my fall
I feel the mystery tries to take me along
To the end of the world
Where I still believe
The colour … of your eyes. It’s flawless.
‘Cause you were beautiful
Your blood was beautiful
Yesterday
I’d still hide
At the seam of memories
Oh, I still hold my rosary
Beneath the veil of life
Will the tears wipe the bloody face of love
Will they take away the stain
Glow like stars of the sky
Float in the ocean
The art of light
Makes me wanna dive
In the colour of heaven
Ah, another day has gone
Another friend has gone
Into the flame
It’s burning love
Jibun de Kirisaita (I tear into pieces)
Mune no kizuato sae (Even the scars on my chest)
Birei ni naru made…… (Til it becomes beautiful)
‘Cause you are beautiful
Your scars are beautiful
Like the Jade
You’ll still shine
When you sink into the sea
Where the bleeding scarlet jealousy
Carves away your belief
Ah, now and forever
You’ll be loved
Let your destiny lead your heart… my Jade
The translations for the japanese sections are just a fan translation, not official.
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Those lyrics make very little sense. Good job, Yoshiki.
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Those lyrics make very little sense. Good job, Yoshiki.
Well, that's not really surprising is it? ;)
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Those lyrics make very little sense. Good job, Yoshiki.
Well, that's not really surprising is it? ;)
It is, actually. Yoshiki's English lyrics since the mid nineties tended to make a lot of sense. You'd need to go back to something like Standing Sex to find his last lot of nonsensical lyrics.
I mean "Made of the lime, the wings of the night", wtf is that?
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Yea, that "Made of the lime, the wings of the night" seriously can't be correct. It's either a big /facepalm on Yoshiki's part or whoever did the Pachinko machines fucked it up.
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Hugest facepalm ever on the "made of the lime". Maybe they are only wrong on Pachinko, like on Rock Band, that I.V. appears with some different verses from the screens of Tokyo Dome 2008.
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@Beauty/Broken: True, but with "Made of the lime, the wings of the night" he seems to be drifting back to his old ways ;)
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I really wouldn't trust anything in relation to lyrics that's not actually in the CD booklet, as far as Japan goes. Last time I went in a Tower Records in Tokyo to buy the new Offspring album 'Rise and Fall, Rage and Grace', there was a huge poster advertising the CD that said 'Rise and Fall, Tage and Grace'.
Let's just wait on the CD.
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IMO, i don't like the song JADE, except the chorus because it sounds more X-ish than the prechorus...
it sounds like idk...bleh XD but the chorus rocks!
I.V. is pretty good!
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Those lyrics make very little sense. Good job, Yoshiki.
Well, that's not really surprising is it? ;)
It is, actually. Yoshiki's English lyrics since the mid nineties tended to make a lot of sense. You'd need to go back to something like Standing Sex to find his last lot of nonsensical lyrics.
I mean "Made of the lime, the wings of the night", wtf is that?
LOL in other words......the wings of the night = made of lime
XD HAHA
if you look at their lyrics kinda goes like this (WEEKEND):
in english:
"Hateful black heart in full bloom"
and then japanese;
"sakimidareta HATEFUL BLACK HEART"
and OMG I WISH THEY PLAYED WEEKEND and SADISTIC DESIRE at their North American concerts XD IT ROCKKKSSSS!!! WOOHOOO!!
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well in my personal opinion i think jade is an absolutely fantastic song, but then there are some fans who are like "it doesn't sound like X Japan" or something related to that quotation and i've always just thought well do you really think they're going to sound the same even after hide passed on may he rest in peace. Sugizo is an incredible guitar player and they still sound fantastic and Jade is an incredible song!
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- JADE release in North America on 15/03;
- Simultaneous release in Europe & Asia under debate;
- I.V. & Born to be free to be the next singles;
- 3 years contract with EMI music;
- Album in summer;
- Starting in Feburary monthly radio show in North America called "YOSHIKI RADIO";
- Order of South America and Europe tour under discussion;
- Intention to participate in festivals at home & abroad;
- Preparations to sell English & Mandarin version of YOSHIKI's book
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http://www.sanspo.com/geino/news/110128/gnj1101280505017-n2.htm Source to basically the above post.
Great news finally! Plus I'm glad they've got a contract with EMI, hopefully that means less delays.
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While any news regarding X Japan is exciting, this is kind of a let down. First of all, Jade was SUPPOSED to be released as a single months ago. I.V. is already a single so I don't know WHY that is mentioned. Born to be free we all assumed would follow suit. Next, the contract with EMI is nice, that's a good thing for sure. The album in the summer is not because this is, again, a delay when spring has been thrown around for a while now. The Yoshiki radio is a good thing for sure! Next, saying South America and Europe dates are under discussion is rather ridiculous...haven't they supposed to have been in discussion for months now too? Finally, the intention to participate in festivals is alright I guess. OVERALL, I'm let down...just a bunch of stuff we probably could have guessed, right?
It's really disappointing when 4 months after their first North American tour they go nearly M.I.A besides the dinner show a few nights ago. Their new website has had NOTHING updated for months...where is even a minute of footage from the tour? It's really sad to see many bands more and even less popular than X Japan successfully please their fans in terms of communication, shows, releases, etc.
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EMI...interesting. At least that's proof the album is going to get a WIDE release.
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well in my personal opinion i think jade is an absolutely fantastic song, but then there are some fans who are like "it doesn't sound like X Japan" or something related to that quotation and i've always just thought well do you really think they're going to sound the same even after hide passed on may he rest in peace. Sugizo is an incredible guitar player and they still sound fantastic and Jade is an incredible song!
seconded :) Jade is amazing. AND it would be kinda boring if XJapan sounds the same all the time, without any changes, right? However, when listening to Jade, you can still notice that this is X Japan and no other artist. *well, it's just my opinion, 'cause I cannot imagine any other band write such a song*
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Although I'm usually not a fan of the larger record companies, I think X signing to EMI is a good thing. Firstly, like Shane said, they won't tolerate constant delays. Yoshiki will pretty much have to work with a time line. It'll also free up Y to concentrate on other sides of the business ie touring etc.
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I liked the part where he talks about the X at EMI I think now the cd comes out.
And I still have much hope of seeing a tour of X in south america (Brazil) and in Europe where they have many friends Fan X
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Can't say I'm surprised or happy about the album being pushed back yet again, but it makes sense since Scarlet is going to be featured in Buddha.
I have a feeling that EMI is going to put some consistency in X's schedule, but they might end up sounding a bit americanized which story tells us that is not a good thing, well, at least they are alive.
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This is great news! A little disappointed the album is pushed back a little again, but the fact they got a record deal is awesome news! I also hope the Jade single will be a physical release, and considering they mentioned I.V. being released as a single in the future, that pretty much means a physical release, since its already on iTunes.
The radio show will be worth a listen for sure! The book I am SUPER excited for! I'd love to read about Yoshiki!
Overall, I am happy with these announcements. 2011 will be a very exciting year for X Japan!
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News is news! X Japan will hopefully come out of hibernation soon!
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hope, there ll be a final touch on jade because of the pushback to march
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Let's hope that since they have signed with EMI now they'll have someone pushing for the release, instead of delaying it more.
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Hm, so now it's summer. Well, IF it will be released in summer I'm gonna be happy.
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Hm, so now it's summer. Well, IF it will be released in summer I'm gonna be happy.
Late summer to be more accurate.
"...the band's as yet untitled American debut set for a late Summer 2011 release."
Source: http://www.thegauntlet.com/article/1225/20968/X-Japan-sign-with-EMI-Music.html
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There is not a single sliver of me that is disappointed in this news. I have dreamed for a reunion and wallowed in the impossibility, so just because there's a little hiatus doesn't bother me. They have a contract, they have news, and they have solid dates, not "Late this year" or "early next year", it's straight up. I hope it's honored.
But yeah. This is great news. And a 3 year contract shows some faith in this band, which is wonderful as well. Let us not dwell on the fact that "Oh MAN, we have to wait a few more months, sunuvabitch", let's think "AT LAST, X-Japan in the rest of the world!"
Huzzah. :3
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So anyway...isn't Jade suppose to be released in like...14 days on March 15th?...any new updates on that?
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I've asked at my local music retailers about the release, which I figured they'd know about 'cause it's EMI...but they're clueless. doesn't even show up in their databases...
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Thats not really a reassuring sign, but i wonder if they have I.V on their database then? or is it not considered on official release yet? lol
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It's not coming on March 16... We've heard nothing. Same old X, same old story. If they actually intend to do something they heap publicity ontop of it, like the US Tour or Lollapalooza. The cancelled shows in Paris and failed ticket sales prove my point.
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they still aren't even listed on EMI's website :/ I mean wtf man?
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lol what you have expected from X Japan.
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Unless we get a 'surprise' release a la Radiohead, Im seeing another delay. Jade single in summer!!
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also to think what can go in the summer
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you are all so optimistic, they will keep it as a x-mas surprise
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they still aren't even listed on EMI's website :/ I mean wtf man?
It may be more of a North American "distribution deal" as opposed to a standard record deal. Yoshiki likes to produce and manage things within his own means and esteem, therefore I'd deem it unlikely he'd sign away his schedual to a record label... Given that his schedual is ever-changing to his own wims and delays.
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more things than single
http://www.sanspo.com/geino/news/110307/gnj1103070501000-n1.htm
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Thanx again rafaelo, so I will be patient and wait till august if I got it right, and say no longer naughty words about x-mas presents
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Wait, wait. So is the ALBUM out August 15 or the Jade single?
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http://xjapanx.blog.shinobi.jp/Entry/2761/
speech here March 15 is the single jade
I think this August should be the CD for this to launch it in the summer
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Oh ok, thank you. Scared me for a minute.
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I'm going to be dissapointed if Jade isn't released this month, even if it is just an iTunes release. However, I have a feeling that we won't be seeing any release this month...we will see.
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But keep in mind that this album was supposed to come out in summer of 2009. I'm sure as hell not going to get my hopes up for August. And also, I can't beleive it, but it's been over a year since the PV shooting in LA and we still haven't seen anything completed. That is some insane procrastination.
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But keep in mind that this album was supposed to come out in summer of 2009. I'm sure as hell not going to get my hopes up for August. And also, I can't beleive it, but it's been over a year since the PV shooting in LA and we still haven't seen anything completed. That is some insane procrastination.
I am actually very optimistic about the album releasing on time, this summer. Without a doubt, they have delayed EVERYTHING and I also recall them saying the album would be out summer 2009, but I ALSO remember Yoshiki saying it would be a "best of" album or something to that effect. Who knows how much production Jade, Born to be free, etc had at that time, not to mention all of the translated lyrics and the tedious work that comes with that. Also, they were not signed to any major label...now with EMI, things should be different.
Regarding the L.A. PV's, I think that was a complete waste of money/time judging by what has come out of it at this time. So far, they've released "X Japan Premium Prototype L.A." on DVD, which I believe is exclusive and may not be sold anymore and only in Japan. So all that huff and puff in L.A. and not a bit of it is released in North America? Come on. Also, the HORRID midi drums and old version of Jade used make it painful to listen to...not to mention Last Live playback for Endless Rain and Rusty Nail. I downloaded the DVD from a torrent and it's fun to see the production side of it all but the PV's are pretty meh.
It may sound selfish but all I really want to hear at this point is new material, the album finally released, more communication/coverage in North America, and most of all WORLD TOUR DATES!!
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here is info of a press release sent out today:
"Yoshiki's band, X Japan, one of the biggest rock bands in Japanese history,
is currently recording what will be their first-ever album to be released in
North America. The album's first single, "Jade," will premiere on March 15,
and the album will be out later this year."
so looks like we will have Jade on the 15th, and have to thank everyone for the lyrics. EMI won't be the type of company to let X Japan lag too much since i'm sure they had to put a lot of money down.
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i totally forgot about it until now, but with the release of Jade do you think they will be releasing the official PV for it as well? it seems like its been so long since they have filmed those lol
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i totally forgot about it until now, but with the release of Jade do you think they will be releasing the official PV for it as well? it seems like its been so long since they have filmed those lol
It's hard to call, given that we've heard so little about the single apart from a release date.
I have a feeling it all may be postponed due to the problems in Japan right now. Yoshiki has already said he plans to stay in Japan for quite some time until the crisis has been resolved somewhat.
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Here I sit, partying like Pata (got a bit of our ol' friend Jack in my cup) awaiting the 23 minutes away until my time zone passes the Ides of March point... =P Here's to hoping.. -=raises glass=- Cheers to over half my life in waiting for these guys to break through my borders, be it the 15th or whenever it'll be.. But please be the 15th. >P
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Here, here! Hopefully we'll finally get a small nugget from them...
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We all are pretty certain it's going to be an iTunes release if anything. Here's hoping that it was already set up and is just waiting to be released into the iTunes store automatically when the clock strikes 12?.....I really have no expectations about releases from X Japan anymore...which is kind of sad considering they are my favorite band, but with their track record since they reunited, I think a lot of us have settled into a rut, where we are happy with any tiny scrap that comes our way?
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I'm not holding my breath for anything today as we're probably in for another let down. I'm not being ignorant of the big picture here, however, earthquake or not, there is no excuse for a single to be delayed THIS much when it is in the hands of a major label like EMI for distribution. The song has most likely been completed months ago (to Yoshiki's approval) and is on some server waiting to go public. My guess is that due to the tragedy in Japan, Yoshiki has told them to delay the release of it. I want nothing more than the Japanese people to be free of danger and become stable again but the progress of X Japan for us on the outside is just flat out sad, when it comes to releases.
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All I can do is recall when X-Japan years ago was supposed to play in New York for a reunion show.. I followed the site of the venue, the vendor that was listed to sell tickets, everything to the letter, and then Yoshiki had injuries that needed to be tended to and it was postponed indefinitely. I was disappointed and sad, but I didn't feel wronged. The band did what they had to do. If Jade comes out today or not, I know it'll be coming out soon and so will the album. I dunno, perhaps I'm just an accepting sorta dude.
It also calls into question, since a lot of X fans on here are younger and not from Japan, what was the release schedule adherence from X-Japan like in the early years? Did they keep a tight ship and release on the day or is it like it is now, with a loose outline of hopeful release dates?
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All I can do is recall when X-Japan years ago was supposed to play in New York for a reunion show.. I followed the site of the venue, the vendor that was listed to sell tickets, everything to the letter, and then Yoshiki had injuries that needed to be tended to and it was postponed indefinitely. I was disappointed and sad, but I didn't feel wronged. The band did what they had to do. If Jade comes out today or not, I know it'll be coming out soon and so will the album. I dunno, perhaps I'm just an accepting sorta dude.
It also calls into question, since a lot of X fans on here are younger and not from Japan, what was the release schedule adherence from X-Japan like in the early years? Did they keep a tight ship and release on the day or is it like it is now, with a loose outline of hopeful release dates?
Yes, it's hard to feel "wronged" due to circumstances which are out of everyone's control, such as the health/physical issues. I also followed MSG site and anywhere I could for ticket information, until the day when we heard of the postponements. The fact that Jade doesn't seem like it will be released today is more of a problem than cancelling a show. For a song that has been in their rotation since 2009 and PROBABLY finished in production ages ago, to not be out when they are under a label like EMI is just insanity. I truly think it very well would be out now if it were not for the tragedy that is happening in Japan. I think Yoshiki probably called it off until things become more stable because a first single in North America is a big deal for them and they would probably want to be able to celebrate.
I'm SO tempted to contact someone at EMI to get some information because X Japan is not even listed on their artist list. Probably the best sources of information we have are Kenny Herzog from MTV, and X Japan's publicist, Heidi Ellen Robinson-Fitzgerald. Kenny Herzog recently interviewed Yoshiki and I talk to him every so often on twitter. The Q&A with Yoshiki is supposed to go live this week and also a separate Q&A about the tragedy in Japan is set to go live probably next week. According to their publicist, who I contacted yesterday, she said she has not been informed of any postponements or alterations to their activities, HOWEVER, Monday being the first business day since the disaster might yield some new information. I have a feeling we'll know more of what their plans are this week/next week.
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http://www.emimusic.jp/intl/news/?rssno=1002
I think this explains whatever is going on, can someone translate?
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It just explain that all ordered products will not be shipped before a long time, nothing X related
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I wonder what excuse they'll give this time for the delay... it obviously cant be the earthquake, as this happened only 4 days ago when the single would have to be ready for sale. Also, it is an American release and we hadnt heard anything about prices, pre-orders, etc etc
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what excuse? can´t remember ever before got one for whatever was delayed or postponed,
like I said earlier on this board I´ll wait till x-mas...
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"This time the "northeastern Pacific Ocean earthquake, " people have been affected by the sympathy I would like to respectfully.
Delivery of the product for sale will be released 30 days of March 23 will be postponed.
There is the possibility of change for subsequent delivery of product launch.
For more information, thank you confirm that you this site.
We wish the reconstruction of the affected areas as soon as possible.
March 15, 2011
EMI Music Japan Inc."
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As relevant as that information is, Goskins, technically it should not affect the release of Jade which MORE THAN LIKELY will be digitally released since there has been absolutely no mention of a CD-single for it. I still stand with my idea of what has happened.
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the same like Feudal, seems to me, that EMI is using the earthquake as an excuse
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Let's see people... first of all, that EMI thing has nothing to do with the single as that is EMI Japan and it is an AMERICAN RELEASE.
Secondly, It was supposedly announced it would be a CD release, as it was said it would be the first single since The Last Song, and since I.V. had been released before, I guess that means it's a CD release. The important thing here is that since they announced it, we havent heard anything about the single: prices, pre-order, b-sides, cover, etc etc
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Let's see people... first of all, that EMI thing has nothing to do with the single as that is EMI Japan and it is an AMERICAN RELEASE.
Secondly, It was supposedly announced it would be a CD release, as it was said it would be the first single since The Last Song, and since I.V. had been released before, I guess that means it's a CD release. The important thing here is that since they announced it, we havent heard anything about the single: prices, pre-order, b-sides, cover, etc etc
Good observation, it didn't clue in for me, when I read "since The Last Song", that it would be a CD-single. All the better! However, that means it may be a lot longer to come out since they could have a digital release done in no time. Hmmmmmm
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Well, no surprise here... -_-
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There was a press release yesterday - YOSHIKI auctioning off his crystal Kawai piano, Jade release postponed (http://www.xplosion-online.com/index.php/en/news/x-japan-news/286-yoshiki-auctioning-off-his-crystal-kawai-piano-jade-release-postponed)
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I honestly doubt X Japan or EMI is just trying to lag on the release of the single.
When your country is hit with a massive earthquake money isn't your first concern its the well being of everyone in Japan. Tons of companies like anime and manga are also delaying releases of anime episodes and mangas, video games which are huge revenues for companies and while the episodes, mangas and games are complete and ready to air, stream, sell its not a massive focus.
I am waiting for Jade like the rest of you, but honestly waiting won't kill you, there have been over a few thousand deaths and I mean just wow people getting worked up. Thats like people getting mad this weeks Naruto or Bleach wont be airing, it will happen but get over it. It will get done, I've read Gackt, T.M. are postponing events and also doing charity events and concerts
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I personally dont care about the release, to be honest. It's perfectly natural that for Yoshiki and the band supporting their country is the most important thing now. Music matters very much for me, but it passes into background when the situation becomes like this. And, according to the morning news, the situation in Japan IS horrible T_T
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Look, no one here is denying that the situation in Japan isn't a horrible one, and that it should take priority. Waiting in the grand scheme of things is not a big deal...but I fall into the camp of people (as small as we may be) that is calling B.S. on that being the ONLY reason this release is delayed for the "umpteenth" time.
The earthquake happened this past Friday. Release should have been yesterday (Tuesday). If there was going to be a physical release, I highly doubt they waited that long to ship the CDs overseas to be distributed across the world in time, when the release was 4 days away. The discs should have been distributed all over the world already. Plus we had NO details other than a release date from months ago. Having no information about the single, coupled with their history of empty promises, is suspicious.
The only proof? Just look at their track record. Look how awful they've handled their own marketing and advertising in the US, which, in Yoshiki's mind, was supposed to be their next big achievement. How many times they've delayed things with NO WORD WHY. Wasn't Jade supposed to be released in October? Meanwhile, they're not even on the EMI website, and as mentioned previously, their single was not even listed as being delayed in that initial EMI report. And, no surprise, they haven't even given a replacement release date for "Jade".
I love X-Japan, and I wouldn't be complaining if I didn't. But realistically, when have they ever shown respect to their fans, especially overseas? It's great that we're getting new content, as few and far between as it may be, but have a little integrity. That report says X Japan is delaying the release to focus their efforts on helping with the crisis...as mentioned earlier, the surprise earthquake happened past the point that Jade should have been handed off. iTunes would just automatically release it, and the CDs would have already been shipped...so what efforts would they have been focusing on if they didn't decide to help out in rebuilding Japan? It obviously wouldn't be promoting for the single, since they haven't done a damn thing to promote themselves besides AGE, and we knew about that weeks before it happened. At this point, their integrity is already a joke. When you tell your fans you're going to do something, you do it, or you explain why. 9 times out of 10, we don't get an explanation from them. This time, we're told it's the earthquake.
I can understand (and actually agree with) postponing it out of respect for one's country. When 9-11 happened, a lot of things were delayed and postponed here in New York out of reverence, and I highly support this. But let's be realistic, this looks more like a case of them, once again, falling behind on their promises, and maybe worse, conveniently blaming it on the natural disaster. I hate to think the worst of X Japan, because my love for the band runs pretty deep, but I'm kind of shocked about the way they handled this.
Maybe it's a cultural difference, or everyone just deals with grief differently, but my first inclination in the wake of a disaster would be more along the lines of "we are not broken, we will rebuild, and keep moving forward". Releasing Jade, especially if it took no further effort on their part (again, would it have been ANY if it was completed and shipped/handed off on time?), would not have been considered disrespectful to the situation. Again, I support the decision if that's really the only reason, but personally, I'd want to press forward with something like that to boost morale and pride.
Just my two cents. No disrespect meant to anyone else's point of view.
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Look, no one here is denying that the situation in Japan isn't a horrible one, and that it should take priority. Waiting in the grand scheme of things is not a big deal...but I fall into the camp of people (as small as we may be) that is calling B.S. on that being the ONLY reason this release is delayed for the "umpteenth" time.
The earthquake happened this past Friday. Release should have been yesterday (Tuesday). If there was going to be a physical release, I highly doubt they waited that long to ship the CDs overseas to be distributed across the world in time, when the release was 4 days away. The discs should have been distributed all over the world already. Plus we had NO details other than a release date from months ago. Having no information about the single, coupled with their history of empty promises, is suspicious.
The only proof? Just look at their track record. Look how awful they've handled their own marketing and advertising in the US, which, in Yoshiki's mind, was supposed to be their next big achievement. How many times they've delayed things with NO WORD WHY. Wasn't Jade supposed to be released in October? Meanwhile, they're not even on the EMI website, and as mentioned previously, their single was not even listed as being delayed in that initial EMI report. And, no surprise, they haven't even given a replacement release date for "Jade".
I love X-Japan, and I wouldn't be complaining if I didn't. But realistically, when have they ever shown respect to their fans, especially overseas? It's great that we're getting new content, as few and far between as it may be, but have a little integrity. That report says X Japan is delaying the release to focus their efforts on helping with the crisis...as mentioned earlier, the surprise earthquake happened past the point that Jade should have been handed off. iTunes would just automatically release it, and the CDs would have already been shipped...so what efforts would they have been focusing on if they didn't decide to help out in rebuilding Japan? It obviously wouldn't be promoting for the single, since they haven't done a damn thing to promote themselves besides AGE, and we knew about that weeks before it happened. At this point, their integrity is already a joke. When you tell your fans you're going to do something, you do it, or you explain why. 9 times out of 10, we don't get an explanation from them. This time, we're told it's the earthquake.
I can understand (and actually agree with) postponing it out of respect for one's country. When 9-11 happened, a lot of things were delayed and postponed here in New York out of reverence, and I highly support this. But let's be realistic, this looks more like a case of them, once again, falling behind on their promises, and maybe worse, conveniently blaming it on the natural disaster. I hate to think the worst of X Japan, because my love for the band runs pretty deep, but I'm kind of shocked about the way they handled this.
Maybe it's a cultural difference, or everyone just deals with grief differently, but my first inclination in the wake of a disaster would be more along the lines of "we are not broken, we will rebuild, and keep moving forward". Releasing Jade, especially if it took no further effort on their part (again, would it have been ANY if it was completed and shipped/handed off on time?), would not have been considered disrespectful to the situation. Again, I support the decision if that's really the only reason, but personally, I'd want to press forward with something like that to boost morale and pride.
Just my two cents. No disrespect meant to anyone else's point of view.
This is an EXACT compilation of my thoughts and feelings on the matter.
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Thanks for the support, Feudal.
And one more thing I just thought of. Jrockergirl, I don't mean to call you out or pick a fight with you or anything like that, but when a natural disaster like this occurs, it kills the economy. Part of rebuilding actually relies very much on making sales happen. I know you meant particularly X-Japan making money, but every little bit of business will help the country rebuild. That's why there's all the available methods of donating through the Red Cross and the like. Obviously those donations will do more good than purchasing an X-Japan single will, but the country needs to continue to do business as well in order to help rebuild the blow to the economy.
At least, this is my take on it.
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Honestly, I am VERY dissapointed in the discussions that I see here, I can't stand it ...
You are still discussing release from Jade etc ... with all what is happening in Japan the last days.
THAT should be discussed and be your concern, not a release from a single ...
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Ann1958, this is a forum about X Japan... I think we can talk about our favourite band too...
StarWarsArtist made an exact compilation of my thoughts too. This postponement has absolutely nothing to do with the earthquake.
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I'd been waiting for the Jade release until I heard of the disaster and the situation that's following after that, I found myself not in the mood anymore - this was supposed to be a celebration and a happy moment. I understand if the release is not their priority at this moment, I'll wait. I was expecting delays before the earthquake happened, anyway.
I think it's important to keep the people in Japan in general in high morale - what the various artists are doing with the charities events, I like that. I'm impressed by the calmness and unselfishness the Japanese shown during this disaster, they can be proud for that reason alone...
Maybe if the proceed of the Jade sale goes to Japan relief, then it will make me excited for it now.
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Ann1958, are you saying that because of what happened in Japan, we should stop going about everyday life and only discuss the natural disaster? If so, why are you even in this thread yourself? We should be allowed to discuss the goings-on of current events and how they relate to our interests. It isn't disrespectful. You make it sound like this is the first thought that came to mind for those of us that are annoyed. I made my donation the night I found out about the earthquake, and the people of Japan have been in my prayers ever since. If you can't stand discussing Jade in the Jade forum...why are you here?
If you read my post, my annoyance doesn't lie in the fact that the single was not released. My annoyance is with the fact that I seriously doubt X-Japan is being 100% truthful to their fans. Earthquake or not, X Japan doing this bothers me.
I'm kind of confused by the tone of your post. Here you are in the Jade thread, scolding us for discussing the Jade release. As mentioned with nearly every post, the tragedy in Japan should, of course, come first and foremost. At this point, we aren't claiming the fact that Jade's release should come first.
The last thing I want to do is start a fight over this, but I simply don't agree with the need to talk down about disagreeing with me or anyone else. This is the Jade thread. We are discussing the delay of Jade. No one is being insensitive or disrespectful about it. There's no need whatsoever to come off high and mighty about it.
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You are forgetting that in order to promote his new single, Yoshiki (or even the whole X Japan) should do a lot of promotion in the US. It's not like Japan, where everything they touch will sell out in a few days. Right now, touring the US and TV shows and whatnot wouldn't feel right. At all. If they'd release the single today, it would be left on the shelves for the weeks or months it would take for the situation to calm down enough for Yoshiki to be back on the track again.
Of course, another question is if the single was going to be delayed anyway or not, I can't argue for or against it without any further proof. But right now delaying the single might do more good than bad.
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You are forgetting that in order to promote his new single, Yoshiki (or even the whole X Japan) should do a lot of promotion in the US. It's not like Japan, where everything they touch will sell out in a few days. Right now, touring the US and TV shows and whatnot wouldn't feel right. At all. If they'd release the single today, it would be left on the shelves for the weeks or months it would take for the situation to calm down enough for Yoshiki to be back on the track again.
Of course, another question is if the single was going to be delayed anyway or not, I can't argue for or against it without any further proof. But right now delaying the single might do more good than bad.
Yes, delaying the single may be a good choice for them, however, it still does not remove the fact that we PROBABLY wouldn't have got the single, earthquake or not. There are too many factors that lead to them being untruthful to the fans. It doesn't matter what anyone says about it, Jade should be out now if they honestly had it planned to be. We've already analyzed the logistics of a physical AND digital release. There are really no excuses.
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I'm not arguing that holding off on the release won't help it in the long run. I agree with you, it's possible that all the devastation will harm it more than help it, though I can't say for sure. I honestly believe it could go either way. But you kind of helped my point, Hypno. Yes, they SHOULD do a lot of promotion in the U.S. but haven't. They toured the US and didn't do ANY promotional work for it at ALL. Zip! And with the earthquake hitting 4 days before the supposed target release date, don't you think that if they were going to promote the single, they would have done it before it would be released within the following 3 days??
My argument has been, and will remain, that I believe the earthquake was an excuse to delay the single that they had no intention of releasing on the 15th. It's my opinion, and I'm not happy about how cynical it seems, but look at the facts and their long track record of empty promises. I have no problem with them NOW delaying the release day out of respect for their countrymen. It has nothing to do with my point. I just sincerely don't believe that was the catalyst that caused the delay in the first place.
Edit: Agreed, Feudal.
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I suppose my attitude towards this is... I have faith in that the "Jade" single would've come out on iTunes and so on and would've been promoted as the first Single to the US. Sure, I.V. came out a while back but it wasn't promoted(hell, it wasn't even on the soundtrack) but it wasn't endorsed as such, so it's unfair to say I.V. was the first single when it kinda.. Wasn't. Was it the first track that was American oriented? Sure, that's legit, but single? Nein, I Say.
Do I think Yoshiki has been... Hmmm... Fair with his words? I don't know. But here's the biggest difference... When albums are released in the states, they come out when the final date is released. Very few people actually follow press releases and publicists information regarding release dates. We're obsessed fans with a band that deserves to be obsessed over. When a CD is pushed back in America for the most part, or when a movie is pushed back, so on and so forth It fades into the wind. Example: the Thor release date has been tossed back and forth time and again without consequence because people don't care. Yet, when Harry Potter was pushed back for almost a year, there was mass fandom rage, so your passion towards the delay with the defense of being an X fan has some merit and I endorse it. Everyone on this board has every right to their own opinion with the delay of the X-Japan CD...
However, in the long run, one thing we have to consider is that there is a "small" group of people who follow X-Japan in the states and labor feverously over every update we can come across, every twitter and facebook post.. This is a scrutiny that most bands don't have to endure.
This is X we're talking about. No matter how much this band has risen in their eyes or ours, we have to understand that there are factors in place here beyond that which we perceive- which I'm sure all of us do, not trying to be insulting at all here- and should appreciate as such. I want an american X-Japan album as much as the next X fan, I want to see Jade on Vh1 and MTV, I want to know that the band that deserves recognition gets it, but being aggressive and negative towards this band will not resolve my place.
Tragedy or not, release or not, I love X-Japan and no amount of delays will stay my adoration. From Vanishing Vision to the unreleased American debut, this is my band of choice, my hopeful expression of emotion, and will stand by the choices they make. I understand it may seem silly and blind, I also am aware that not everyone will share my point of view and I absolutely respect that and will never scrutinize someone for it, but the fact that I was able to see X-Japan live and have the prospect to in the future.. Is like giving water to a dying man in the desert to me.
We are X.
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I'll agree that more promotion should be/have been done outside of press releases and such like videos, magazines, itunes for the single release, that much is common sense for all musical acts new or old.
I felt there were a few people who seemed to be more about where is the song over, omg 1000's died.
Surprisingly the yen dropped in value and quickly raised to be strong again after the disaster but I think they should focus on the possible exploding reactor.
Here is my main guess, a song has to be hosted for it to be downloaded and Japan has had companies stay closed to help conserve energy, Konami, Square Enix Capcom and music companies are on hiatus currently so maybe the ones to host it are also doing the same, might also be a way to delay and we all know groups have done that in the past which does suck.
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ForeverFades, I disagree with a few of your points.
I sincerely doubt the goal of anyone here is to shake your resolve in the band. These are fan forums and we're all here for the distinct reason that we love the band and want to see them succeed, but that doesn't mean that, by a longshot, I am okay with feeling slighted as a fan. As fans, we have the right to speak our minds and voice our opinion, because frankly, without their fans, X-Japan would be nothing. No musician is as big a deal as they can be without their fans. Talent, skill, drive, yes, it's all important to how amazing X-Japan is, but without their fans, their success would be non-existent.
My problem, as I've stated elsewhere, is that X Japan has a long, long history of empty promises, and the reason they get away with it is because there are no consequences. Their fans are so loyal that they'll wait and wait and forgive every empty promise without an apology of any kind. While this is great for X-Japan, where does that leave us? Can you think of any other type of relationship where that would be fair? So then, why is it fair now? Trust me, I do respect your faith and devotion to the band. I'm faithful to them too. I'd never stop listening to them over this stuff, but that doesn't mean I'll look past everything without a reasonable excuse for broken promises. It's a matter of integrity. I have a hard time respecting anyone who doesn't follow through with what they say they're going to do (of course, barring unforeseen circumstances), why would I change my feelings of the matter for a rock band, you know? It seems more disrespectful to fans than anything. "Who cares, they'll still buy it whenever we decide to do it" sort of thing.
Again, I'm thrilled we're getting any content at all. The time since 2008 has been amazing for X fans because our wildest dream came true, X is back...but you'd hardly know it! They've been lagging on every single promise they've made ever since returning. Hardships are natural when a band like X has to face a brand new frontier, but frankly, it doesn't even seen like they give a damn. Where's all the promotional effort on their part? Where are the music videos they shot over a year ago, with songs that have already been completed? Where is the Jade single that should have been out in October of last year? Where is the "best of" album that was promised back in 2008? They HAVE followed through on a few things, which is great. I was lucky enough to see them here in New York and it was one of the best shows I've ever seen. But that doesn't mean I don't feel a bit slighted as a fan.
X shouldn't be making promises if they aren't going to keep them. Plain and simple.
I also disagree with what you said about people not following release dates. Anytime someone is a big fan of something, they are inclined to follow it. I live in New York, and it's the norm here to wait in line all night, sometimes even for a midnight release, of music CD's, video games, and movies, of the most popular artists. I see no difference in those fans and the fans of X Japan, with the exception that the promotion we get for those other forms of media are much more easily accessible. When a new Linkin Park CD is coming out, you can't turn a corner in some parts of Manhattan without seeing a poster with a release date. This is because American mainstream entertainment markets themselves strongly and it's impossible to let it slip under the radar. Even when said big time artists have those delays, their eventual release hardly goes unnoticed. The reason that small percentage of X fans hangs off of every word is because Yoshiki and X have done a HORRIBLE job of promoting themselves since their return in 2008. Say what you will, for that aspect at least, they are doing a terrible job of reaching their target audience. Since their fans have no choice, they have to constantly keep checking for updates in the only places they'll get them.
Jrockergirl, I can really only speak for myself when I say that, as God-awful and tragic as the earthquake's aftermath has been, countries all over the world are pulling together and doing something about it, which is the best anyone could ask for. Ways to donate have opened up all over the USA (not sure how other countries are handling it) and volunteers from all over are on their way to Japan to help pull together in the wake of the travesty. As horrendous as the earthquake was, everything that can be done to fix it IS being done to fix it. Hopefully, there will be some positive notes in the history books when it's noted how immediate and strong the response was to the devastation. I hate to use the cliche, but it may very well be a triumph of the human spirit to help Japan hopefully bounce back as quickly as possible.
The reason the Jade debacle is striking a chord is because it's practically the exact opposite. NO, I am NOT saying it's a bigger tragedy or anything remotely absurd like that, but it was handled completely wrong, as usual. As mentioned earlier, X being X and the rest of us being okay with it. However, from this point on, I support the decision 100% to postpone the release until an appropriate time...so long as they follow through with whatever date they promise. The single should be finished already, there's no excuse for another delay once a new date is announced.
And on a personal note, Jrockergirl, I read that you lost friends in another thread from the earhquake. My deepest condolences to you and their families.
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I’m afraid my opinion may offend somebody, but I must say this… anytime I hear smth like ‘they are nothing without their fans’ it gets on my nerve, honestly. Everyone has their own quirks, and this one is mine. The case is that I hear similar words from fans of various bands\musicians, as if fame and popularity were the only things worth fighting\working for. C’mon, there have been so many artists\authors\scientists\inventors etc. who weren’t acknowledged in due time, but this didn’t diminish their talent in any way! We might or might not like them, but their intelligence, skills, ability to touch one’s heart ARE the most important things….. with or without admirers.
Sorry, I didn’t mean to be offensive or argue with anyone, just wanted to share my thoughts.
I do understand, however, that previous ‘broken promises’ hurt some fans and made them feel like treated with disrespect. I’m sure that all the postponements weren’t mean to outrage smb, so let’s just try to be patient.
Also I wanna express my sincere condolences to people who have lost their friends. My prayers are with you and Japan. Take care.
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I was careful to word things the way I did. End of the day, X Japan are musicians who make their living off of making music. If the music wasn't popular with fans, who pay money to support this career, it would not have brought them the lifestyle they lead. I didn't say it was the only thing worth working for. The talent and the drive are there, but if people aren't supporting them financially, how far would you get in the music business? Look at half of the American entertainers out there. Most of them don't have a fraction of the talent X does, but they make it so far because of their fanbase. I DID mention that their talent and skill were ever present and essential to the formula that is X-Japan.
I'm not saying they owe us, their fans, anything more than respect for collectively providing them with very comfortable lives. And the constant empty promises, one after another, hardly feels like respect. I agree that patience is necessary for these things, but X has let disappointment after disappointment slip through the cracks with no apologies, as if the promises were never made in the first place.
I'm not offended by your post, XVikyX, but I think you might have misunderstood my sentiments.
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I dig your lip flap, Starwarsartist. I get your points, they are valid, I'm just a patient kinda guy and- I know you're as stoked as any of us that they're back together, don't think I'm sayin ' otherwise- don't incredibly mind the delays and feel there's more at hand than just "They don't respect their American audience". And I know you weren't attempting to waver my feelings towards X, sorry if it came off that way. =P Ontop of that, don't think that I feel X-Japan has been well promoted here AT ALL... No posters, no endorsing, nothing really to let us know that X is here. Like I said, I honestly agree with all your jive, we just come from two different camps in how we approach it, I think.
I just figure things'll work out, I'll sit here waving a tiny X flag and hope upon hope that soon I'll see these guys taking over these here states.
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StarWarsArtist, I’m glad I didn’t offend you, and I can assure you that I understood your thoughts ^^ The thing is, as I’ve said, I simply have some problem with ‘they-are-nothing-without-us’-phrases, that’s why it caught my eye. I don’t wanna impose my opinion on you, I just tried to say that any real talent remains a real talent, with or without financial support. For example, there are not many X-fans in my country, and if I said ‘hey, X-Japan is sooo great!’, ppl would probably answer “huh? What japan?’ -_- but being unpopular here doesnt mean being less talented.
Yes, the fans give their love, strength, money etc.; and, regarding X as a famous band with unbelievably successful career, we can surely say the fans have been of great importance. Furthermore, without fans I’d have probably not know about X. On the other hand, we need them [the band] as much *at least* as they need us, right? it’s sort of two-edged weapon, you know….
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ForeverFades, XvikyX, I'm glad both of you see where I'm coming from, even if we don't agree 100%!
And I definitely am still proud to stand under the X flag that unites us here in the first place! =)
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@StarWarsArtist: I do agree with you in all points. I think it´s not o.k. making promises without end and do only keep a little part of them, it´s what I saw like I was starting listen to X back in 2008, and yes it may be right for same artists go along with their talent and skills and don´t need an audience, but not for X and defenitely not Yoshiki,
and by the way, if I listen to the lyrics of Jade it would be a wonderfull song to devote to the people in Japan and get donations for the rebuild of the destroyed areas, only my opinion
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http://www.jame-world.com/us/items-27652-jade.html
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http://www.jame-world.com/us/items-27652-jade.html
I am not even sure how I feel about that! haha Clearly the release date is off, but at least it's cataloged...
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I've been thinking we might witness another Chinese Democracy. Of course I hope that's not the case but I've just got those kind of vibes lately
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Oh, we defenitely are. The album was going to be released last summer, then Yoshiki said that if it wasnt released in 2010 he would commit harakiri, then they said spring 2011, then summer, then "late summer"... Also, for more than a year, he's been saying the album is at 80% and then we find out that they are only re-recording Toshi's parts. Plus, it took 2 years to finish Jade, it was first played in May 2009..
The Jade radioplay, the recorded PVs that it seems we'll never finally see, etc etc
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so you all say I´m a bit to optimistic expecting the release at X-mas? But if it goes like "Chinese Democracy" I´m finally hopefull, because I like the album, so let´s keep on waiting.............................................
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Oh, we defenitely are. The album was going to be released last summer, then Yoshiki said that if it wasnt released in 2010 he would commit harakiri, then they said spring 2011, then summer, then "late summer"... Also, for more than a year, he's been saying the album is at 80% and then we find out that they are only re-recording Toshi's parts. Plus, it took 2 years to finish Jade, it was first played in May 2009..
Which is exactly why this new album is so damn confusing. If they were only recording Toshi's parts then this album would have been released a long time ago. I HOPE they are re-recording everything because production-wise the album will sound very weird and of awkward quality (Just listen to Vanishing Vision then play a Dahlia track to hear what I mean). The optimist in me is hoping they are simply writing MORE than the album but we'll see, I guess.
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im not even going to get into Chinese Democracy (see my username! but godbless ChiDem, Axl, and NuGnr)
BUT
at this point, ill be super disappointing if we only get 4 new songs (IV, Jade, Born to Be Free, and Scarlet Love Song). I'm expecting this to completely be a new studio album. They can throw in a few oldies like Kurenai, Rusty Nail, and Tears. But really, 2 years... there's no reason for there not to be more than 4 new songs on it. Think about it, how lame would it be if this turned out to be an 80% greatest hits compilation. Even if the vocals or instruments are re recorded, we already have the originals which 90% of us will call superior anyways (with good reason). So I'm hoping for this to have a decent amount of new material. If not, there is no way these delays are justified. The only other thing is if they've written a lot and hope to make another album or 2 after this.
It kinda fuckin sucks though, both my favorite bands are totally useless right now. Axl is on one of his moments of silence with band members not knowing what the hell is going on, and Yoshiki... I have no idea what's goin on in his head either.
Damn... :-\ at least I saw "GNR" and X last year!
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I don't have anything to add apart from I've enjoyed the studio clips of the song I've heard so far;
But axlroseX I know where you are coming from, X & GNR are the two bands I follow regularly and unfortunately yeah they are both difficult to keep up with due to continued delays, period of silence etc.
Actually now that I think about it, the situation with the 'new albums' from both these bands are similar. "Chinese Democracy" has come out yes (even though it was not packaged with the correct artwork, and may possibly even be missing songs that Axl wanted as part of a trilogy), but most of CD was made up of songs people would have been familiar with for close to 10 years, with only about 5 songs that were really 'new'.
Hopefully with X the album will be made up more than just 3 or 4 new songs rather than mostly re-recordings, otherwise as you said, it makes the delay unjustified.
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yeah man. at least with chidem all of the songs were technically new songs. they were just played live and leaked before that. if half the new x album is songs like kurenai and endless rain then wtf. who the hell cares if they have english singing. a few i could understand considering its for us folk in the usa, but id still rather have at least 7-8 brand new songs. we already have 4, can 4 or 5 more be that hard?
this wont be another chinese democracy time wise. nothing will be, and nobody is as crazed as axl. but the similarities are there.
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and ben have you seen the alt./ real chidem artwork? that booklet kicks ass!
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Maybe Yoshiki should join GNR? lol
I think that most people overseas interested in this new X JAPAN album are the large number of fans around the world who have already been following X for a long time, already heard the Japanese versions, or even in some cases, were inspired to learn more Japanese to understand the songs better. If they feel the need to re-record their own songs, why don't they keep it separate to new songs? Maybe one or two bonus tracks at the end of the new album, or even better, release a 2CD version of the new album, and put the re-recordings of 4 or 5 old songs on the second disc along with live tracks or remixes - so then the focus can be on 10 new songs.
Yeah I did see the real artwork, I liked it alot. I didn't think Axl should bother re-releasing CD, but now that I see what's missing, they should do it, even as a ITUNES only exclusive. Throw in a new song or two as well, that would be even better. But I'll save that conversation for mygnrforum lol
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Maybe Yoshiki should join GNR? lol
two top dogs in a small square room - that won´t work long!
But yes, nice idea, very lol
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Sorry I know this is off the topic of "Jade", but you can hear from the sound of CD that, like many people said when they heard it, its multi layered almost like a film soundtrack with multiple guitar parts, strings, even multiple drum tracks at times. I think a collaboration between Yoshiki & Axl would have been something special. Just imagine them in the studio together, Yoshiki sitting in the leather chair in front of his piano, shyly playing with his hair, and Axl... I dunno.. probably running late lol.
(P.S before anyone attacks, this is just a joke because I respect both of them)
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X Japan and Yoshiki are difficult to understand. Back in the days of Vanishing Vision, Blue Blood and Jealousy when X Japan were trying to break through and they had Sony on their arses to make sure things were released on-time they released a lot of music very quickly, even with delays created by Yoshiki's poor health at the time - but they had to literally drag Yoshiki by the scruff of the neck to push him towards dealines. In the run up to the release of Jealousy Yoshiki was unhappy with the album and refused Sony's deadline, so he locked himself in his apartment in LA and refused to leave, eventually the Sony executives broke his door down and dragged him kicking and screaming all the way back to Japan for the release and press launch. These days Yoshiki answers only to himself, because simply because he is a super-star and a made man - this is not good for fans who expect regular music releases.
IF this album is ever released, and not aborted, it will probably be a massive dissapointment to X Japan fans worldwide, with a couple of new songs we have already heard a thousand times and English lyrics slapped over the original recordings of old songs. Sorry to put it bluntly, but that's just how it's going to be.
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Unfortunately, I have to agree with Beauty here,X seems to be kind of lost in their own plans, they're trying to become international stars, while adapting to the times, this is a really hard thing to do in the world of music, Akira Takasaki for example lost his way during the grunge era and most of Loudness's charm started to fade away.
In my opinion when a musician starts to walk away from his/her "path" they should stop and stare for a while, and wonder if they are doing the right thing.
No doubt these are times of uncertanty to the band and just like Beauty also said, the golden age of X will not come back, X and specially Yoshiki should think if this is the path they want to the band to follow. Just like many of you I'm not confortable with the current situation but no matter the choices they make, I will believe on them till the very end.
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I liked his words
Neru is Beauty
I also believe the X-japan until the end
miss the time of hide
We are X
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ben your on mygnrforum? whats your username? hahahaaha
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and ironically i actually dig all the new tunes. i think that studio version of jade was fantastic and ranked up with the classics. I.V. has that killer chorus, and Born to be Free is a fun tune. I would love to see more melodic solos on a few. the shredding on Jade and BtbF is awesome, but i would really love to see Scarlet Love Song having a melodic, epic harmonized solo. As a throwback to classic X.
and yeah, Jade's production sort of reminds my of chidem. The main riff mimics Buckethead's "elephant noise" riff on Shackler's Revenge too.
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and ironically i actually dig all the new tunes. i think that studio version of jade was fantastic and ranked up with the classics. I.V. has that killer chorus, and Born to be Free is a fun tune. I would love to see more melodic solos on a few. the shredding on Jade and BtbF is awesome, but i would really love to see Scarlet Love Song having a melodic, epic harmonized solo. As a throwback to classic X.
and yeah, Jade's production sort of reminds my of chidem. The main riff mimics Buckethead's "elephant noise" riff on Shackler's Revenge too.
I like the new X, don't get me wrong - I personally think that X Japan returning and just putting out 8 minute double-kick-fuelled speed metal songs ala Silent Jealousy, Blue Blood and Dahlia would have been a mistake. In truth, Yoshiki was veering away from that style of writing anyway, even as far back as 1994, so I believe that people who were expecting those kind of old-style songs from the reunion were not really being realistic with their expectations.
As for Sugizo's guitar solos in Jade and Born to be Free, they're what I as a guitarist would call "chromatic", meaning that they're not really adhering to any scale or key. Sugizo is a little bit difficult to guage as a guitarist - during Luna Sea his solos tended to be pretty straight forward and melodic, which I think led a lot of people into doubting his true playing ability. With his continuing work in X, though, he's starting to show doubters that he's actually a far better player than his earlier work would suggest (even if he did screw up the Rusty Nail solo the first time he got to play it on stage XD)
It's cruel for me to laugh, but he seems to have no idea what he's doing and totally screws up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fih4i1H2IGU
He actually learnt it by the time they got to Toronto, though :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6zrjPE7UeM&feature=related
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A couple of weeks ago I was wondering why didn't they play some old songs like the ones in VV and standing sex, I came to the conclusion that the themes and melody in those songs reflected the mentallity of the young X, where all they wanted was to be fast and loud, on the other hand Standing Sex and Orgasm seems to be a matter of maturity in my opinion , being 40+ years old musicians it may feel odd for them to play songs that talk about sexual intercourse (altough Orgasm was played in HK) and has international musicians they might not want to show that wild side anymore.
Maybe this songs are a reflex of X's maturity, they are not that young anymore and they don't think like they did back in the days, this is a new phase in X Japan.
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I wanted to see they playing sadist desire, blue blood, rose of pain again
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A couple of weeks ago I was wondering why didn't they play some old songs like the ones in VV and standing sex, I came to the conclusion that the themes and melody in those songs reflected the mentallity of the young X, where all they wanted was to be fast and loud, on the other hand Standing Sex and Orgasm seems to be a matter of maturity in my opinion , being 40+ years old musicians it may feel odd for them to play songs that talk about sexual intercourse (altough Orgasm was played in HK) and has international musicians they might not want to show that wild side anymore.
Maybe this songs are a reflex of X's maturity, they are not that young anymore and they don't think like they did back in the days, this is a new phase in X Japan.
this x1000. Although I would like to see them play their old stuff from time to time if for no other reason than to remember their roots.
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For me it´s they can play whatever they want, the main point is, they play at all, so one can see that I get very modest by the time, and for this year I don´t see they playing in Europe :-\
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and ironically i actually dig all the new tunes. i think that studio version of jade was fantastic and ranked up with the classics. I.V. has that killer chorus, and Born to be Free is a fun tune. I would love to see more melodic solos on a few. the shredding on Jade and BtbF is awesome, but i would really love to see Scarlet Love Song having a melodic, epic harmonized solo. As a throwback to classic X.
and yeah, Jade's production sort of reminds my of chidem. The main riff mimics Buckethead's "elephant noise" riff on Shackler's Revenge too.
I like the new X, don't get me wrong - I personally think that X Japan returning and just putting out 8 minute double-kick-fuelled speed metal songs ala Silent Jealousy, Blue Blood and Dahlia would have been a mistake. In truth, Yoshiki was veering away from that style of writing anyway, even as far back as 1994, so I believe that people who were expecting those kind of old-style songs from the reunion were not really being realistic with their expectations.
As for Sugizo's guitar solos in Jade and Born to be Free, they're what I as a guitarist would call "chromatic", meaning that they're not really adhering to any scale or key. Sugizo is a little bit difficult to guage as a guitarist - during Luna Sea his solos tended to be pretty straight forward and melodic, which I think led a lot of people into doubting his true playing ability. With his continuing work in X, though, he's starting to show doubters that he's actually a far better player than his earlier work would suggest (even if he did screw up the Rusty Nail solo the first time he got to play it on stage XD)
It's cruel for me to laugh, but he seems to have no idea what he's doing and totally screws up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fih4i1H2IGU
He actually learnt it by the time they got to Toronto, though :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6zrjPE7UeM&feature=related
i was at the chicago gig! i was shocked when they started to do it live. even though he screwed up it sounded great being there in person!
anyways, i know sugizo is really good. im a guitar player too so i know what hes doing. i like both the shred and melodic solos (although ill honestly say i cant get into luna sea... his solos just dont grab me =/)
but im really looking forward to seeing what he and pata do on scarlet love song
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Beauty/Broken and Neru also, your posts were well written.
There is obviously a difference though in what I'd like and what is the most likely outcome. As frustrating as it gets having to wait, that's also the reason why I have more respect for musicians like Yoshiki and Axl who go by their own terms rather than just forcing music out or doing what people expect them to do.
I do like the new X songs I've heard so far. I still listen to "I.V" the most, "Jade" has grown on me, and "Born to Be Free", I admit doesn't do much for me but still nice to listen to. "Scarlett love song" I haven't heard enough of to judge.
axlroseX yeah i am on mygnrforum haha. my username there is ben9785. a few random numbers and year of birth at the end, its lame i know.. well ive been trying to change it but the moderators don't respond to my PMs haha. are you on there as well? what username you use?
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im zosorose on mygnr. fun place haha
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any news about this single? already delay for a month ....
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We'll probably hear Scarlet Love Song first ^_^
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Sigh. Can't say I'm surprised...
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Sigh. Can't say I'm surprised...
sad but agreed, they are already focused on the world tour, summer sonic and Yoshiki selling his crystal piano.
I would figure there would be some news already about the release of the single, but still nothing to this date about it, kind of a bummer
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Hm...I kinda feel as if the delay was just a convenient excuse. I don't think they were ready to release it, if they were, I think it would surely have been released by now right? As far as I know, all the other music releases in Japan that got delayed have been released...
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Yeah, most of them have been released already. And we could guess that from the moment that they didn't announce a new date for the release, they didnt have the single ready and they still dont. ALL IS A JOKE
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It was a stupid release date any way. They're probably just sitting on it until they tour again in order to have some kind of press reaction.
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And what about the album then?
Because they had to release 3 singles (I think, correct me if i'm wrong) before the album, which is supposed to be released in summer. And releasing 3 singles and one album in two months would be a bad idea.
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There has been no word on anything so who knows if we will still get a summer release date with all the extra stuff they are packing including the world tour.
Kinda disappointed right now but I do hope we get something soon
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I guess we will get Scarlet Love Song, because the movie will be released on may 28th, so we can get the soundtrack too at this time, can´t we
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This just seems to reiterate everything I said earlier in the thread: They probably used the earthquake as a "convenient" excuse to delay the release of Jade's single. If it was really going to be released 4 days later, it would have been released by now. Especially if all the other delayed music and entertainment in Japan that was delayed (out of respect, anyway) was released.
Seriously, X-Japan, first empty promises, and now bold-faced lies. It wasn't the earthquake that delayed Jade, and you didn't delay Jade out of respect. The damn thing wasn't ready in the first place. This is hardly the way to treat the fans, especially if you're looking to gain more fans worldwide. Yoshiki's business practices baffle me. I'm legitimately losing respect for them, as much as I love them and want to see them succeed, but geeze, they aren't even trying to help themselves succeed. I'd prefer them telling the truth, no matter how ugly it is. I'd have a lot more respect for that than using the devastation in Japan as a sleezy way of saving face, which is doing the exact opposite in my eyes. So annoying.
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Xjapan's new single "Jade" will premiere tonight on #YoshikiRadio !!!
http://bit.ly/em1pHb
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Xjapan's new single "Jade" will premiere tonight on #YoshikiRadio !!!
http://bit.ly/em1pHb
Just signed up for a free trial, now listening and just waiting for 8pm! :)
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someone record it
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I'm guessing it is the exact same version as the one they put up in full on their official english site a while back?
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For us in the UK it'll be around 11:00AM when Jade is played.
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For us in the UK it'll be around 11:00AM when Jade is played.
Wasn't it at 8:00PM ET? Isn't that 0:00 GMT?
Apparently they rebroadcast it today at 9:00AM ET, that should be 1:00PM GMT today, am I right? Which means, in 3 hours...
Anyway, anyone could record it last night? :D
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Jade from the radio show has been posted. And ffs, Yoshiki speak up, it sounds like he's nervous on a rerecorded program XD.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gL7DJytfllo
Its probably just the youtube upload, but everything except the vocals sounds a bit busier than the one on xjapanmusic.com, but I think a previous youtube upload was like that as well. I still think the bridge section sucks compared to the live versions.
Edit: I'm sorry I know I've already commented on this already, but I just listened to the video again, and I can't believe the way yoshiki acted in this video, I mean, after having many attempts at recording this, did he really think the way he spoke here was good enough for people to listen to on the radio!?
Big announcer voices "WELCOME TO SERIUS XM, EAST MEETS WEST THIS IS YOSHIKI RADIO", followed suddenly by "oh, hi, um, our next song is uh....I'm really nervous, I might cry".
Seriously was he even trying to make people want to listen to this?
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Big announcer voices "WELCOME TO SERIUS XM, EAST MEETS WEST THIS IS YOSHIKI RADIO", followed suddenly by "oh, hi, um, our next song is uh....I'm really nervous, I might cry".
I lol´d
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jooohshiikii-radio, very lol, and to be honest, I didn´t hear anything at all, only a whispering like leaves in the wind untill I recognised I have to turn my volume control up to 120% and yes there was something told, could be Yochan or not...
really, for stuff like that he makes such an overhead, poser :P
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Looks like we finally have the Jade single cover. Posted all over the redesigned X Japan website.
(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h156/DMC_Guy/dgsrgs.jpg)
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I liked the cover
cool photo
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ah awesome cover! hope it comes as a physical release!
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I managed to extract the cover art without the play button in the middle in case anyone wanted it for something, like having the proper album art for their iPod. :P
(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h156/DMC_Guy/jade.jpg)
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Eh, seems to me like any rock/metal fans who havn't heard of this band will think, "is this a release from the latest untalented pop star or something?" when they look at this.
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hope it comes as a physical release!
Same here! Be great to walk into a store selling CDs and finally being able to leave with something by X.
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"(TUESDAY, June 14, 2011) -- "Jade," the long-awaited new single from X Japan, one of the most influential rock bands in Japanese history, will be released in North America, Europe and Latin America on Tuesday, June 28 in all digital formats. "Jade" is the first track from the band's English debut album, currently in the final stages of recording."
http://jrockrevolution.com/index.php/news/jrock-news/1716--x-japans-first-single-qjadeq-to-be-released-on-june-28-.html (http://jrockrevolution.com/index.php/news/jrock-news/1716--x-japans-first-single-qjadeq-to-be-released-on-june-28-.html)
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currently in final stages of recording?? jade is not finished???.
digital format? itunes? or??
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^ They're talking about the album in the final stages. :)
Glad Jade's finally coming out.
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^ They're talking about the album in the final stages. :)
Glad Jade's finally coming out.
That album has been in the final stages of recording for at least a year, lol. :D
As for the Jade single, I don't like the sound of "digital formats", sounds like this won't be a physical CD release.
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^ They're talking about the album in the final stages. :)
Glad Jade's finally coming out.
That album has been in the final stages of recording for at least a year, lol. :D
As for the Jade single, I don't like the sound of "digital formats", sounds like this won't be a physical CD release.
I'm pretty sure we won't see the single as a physical CD release.
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^ They're talking about the album in the final stages. :)
Glad Jade's finally coming out.
That album has been in the final stages of recording for at least a year, lol. :D
As for the Jade single, I don't like the sound of "digital formats", sounds like this won't be a physical CD release.
I'm pretty sure we won't see the single as a physical CD release.
After I heard about the EMI deal, and when I saw the album cover, I was starting to be convinced this would be a CD release. But based on X Japan's post-reunion activity, i'm not surprised with the digital release.
Anyways, I will surely buy the song from iTunes upon it's release.
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more stuff
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=159395#
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hmm...kinda random, but are there any implications due to the fact that they have uploaded that preview of Jade on SoundCloud as being under Creative Commons???
http://soundcloud.com/xjapan/tracks
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hmm...kinda random, but are there any implications due to the fact that they have uploaded that preview of Jade on SoundCloud as being under Creative Commons???
http://soundcloud.com/xjapan/tracks
It just means we are free to remix and rework the track. http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/
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more about the single jade
http://blogs.laweekly.com/westcoastsound/2011/06/x_japan_jade.php
http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20110614-00000323-oric-ent
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more stuff
http://www.barks.jp/news/?id=1000070709&p=0
http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/music/88819/full/
http://www.sanspo.com/geino/news/110615/gnj1106150506014-n1.htm
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Official news that Jade will be released on June 28th is also now on http://www.xjapanmusic.com/news
as well as the links Rafaelo posted.
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I wonder if they will release it on iTunes Japan as well???
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It's going to be released in Japan exclusively as a ringtone then released on itunes 2 weeks later or something like that.
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Jade in Japan will be released on June 13th.
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^You mean July 13?
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sorry you're right.
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more stuff
http://www.barks.jp/news/?id=1000070792
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X Japan To Release Jade - First English Recording (Sample, Lyrics, Review)
http://www.rockstarweekly.com/x-japan-to-release-jade-first-english-recording-sample-lyrics-review.html
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http://www.rockstarweekly.com/x-japan-to-release-jade-first-english-recording-sample-lyrics-review.html
finally? official lyric of jade??
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^ could be, i havent seen these lyrics around before...quite like the parts that i couldn't hear before...
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"The colour is from your eyes." Finally we know what that line was.
"Glow in the ocean" Listening to the final version, Toshi definatly says 'float', not glow.
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Those lyrics are copy-paste from the first website that comes up in a google search, which still would be the old fan-written wrong lyrics. In the Pachinko game you can see the probably mostly correct lyrics.
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so looks like a full cd will be out sooner then we can expect since I figured the delay of Jade would delay the new CD. I laugh that Yoshiki decided to do the cover for himself whic is something I didn't read the first time.
but 8 more days and we can all have Jade.
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Did anyone see this vid yet:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xjeaw9_x-japan-en-live_music
I certainly haven't seen it before :o
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Did anyone see this vid yet:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xjeaw9_x-japan-en-live_music
I certainly haven't seen it before :o
Can't say I have, looks to be new.
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seems new to me too, finally we get the PV they did ages ago and a single release, and of course the concerts, that´s really wow :D
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They should announce it once they release a new video lol. I thought I'd been watching the crappy versions for nothing over the past weeks :P
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I would say is 95% the same than this video from the DVD Showcase in L.A. uploaded 8 months ago, just with better audio:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgL751vbgas
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I agree with sanorin (although it's pretty cool from the lamer versions I've seen). I'm glad someone has the new lyrics too, I was wondering when someone would crack the code. [I should sing it at Anime Expo. . .]
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I would say is 95% the same than this video from the DVD Showcase in L.A. uploaded 8 months ago, just with better audio:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgL751vbgas
Ah, thanks. Somehow managed to miss it :o
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I'm glad someone has the new lyrics too, I was wondering when someone would crack the code. [I should sing it at Anime Expo. . .]
If you mean the ones posted recently, they are old and wrong. You would be safer learning the lyrics from the Pachinko video, check it out on YouTube ;)
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Yoshiki made his radio show an event on Facebook and wrote:
Because we are releasing X Japan's worldwide debut single JADE on June 28th Toshi and I will talk about JADE and play an unplugged version.
Edit:
I was expecting the one with werewolves and stuff :( Oh well.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W37_xInM448&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
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Jade available on iTunes!
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Now that Jade is available, are there the official lyrics released too?
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more stuff
http://www.barks.jp/news/?id=1000071131
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It's not on USA itunes for some reason..
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It's not on USA itunes for some reason..
I'm having troubles as well, its not on the Canadian iTunes either...i've checked several times today. I want my Jade!
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just bought jade on the german itunes :)
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just bought on the German itunes, too! Awesome!!!!! It's so going to be the ringtone of me mobile ;-)
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me too, schubidubidu...
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well then...........nothing like a nice smooth release for their first north american single lol
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well then...........nothing like a nice smooth release for their first north american single lol
Yea, Yoshiki will be cheesed if he finds out North American fans had to wait. We're his target market right now. There's some people in their distribution department who are going to get in shiiit lol
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maybe it depent on timezone, ´cause in Australia and New Zealand it was earlier available than here in Germany, but it´s just an idea, nothing proof
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possible but not likely, we are getting on to the end of the day and there is still nothing, im just guessing that they messed something up simply on the distribution and didnt add canada and the states to the available zones
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how was the song? any difference from so far we got and itunes official version??
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45 minutes of the day left and Jade still isn't on iTunes for either Canada (my country), nor the United States. So much for a North American release. I feel cheated, I was so looking forward to buying Jade today! :(
I'm going to go complain to Yoshiki on Twitter! ;D >:(
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So I don't want to be Mr. Negativity again as I had quite a few (justified) rants back in March over the likelihood of Jade's release actually being delayed by the tragedy in Japan...
But here we are again, without what we were told we would get. It's really great that it DID get released in a slew of other countries around the world, so for that I'm feeling confident. Yet, I'm in the States, and among the fans still scratching their heads as to trying to figure out why we're left with more empty promises made by Yoshiki. Now, we don't have all the facts so no, it isn't fair to blame him. It could 100% be a case of iTunes of North America dropping the ball...but I'd love, at the very least, some information from Yoshiki. This goes back to the rant about integrity I went on a few months back. If you can't follow through with something you promised to deliver, at the very least, you owe an explanation.
It's only a day late, but the wait for the explanation begins...
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@denx: for me it´s a bit different, seems the drums are diff and ToshI´s voice more clearly
@ all the fans in the USA AND Canada: I hope you´ll get it too soon, can´t imagine where the problem could be ::)
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Yeah, 'cause, y'know, X-Japan and Yoshiki aren't doing anything right now and this is in direct result of Yoshiki slacking, not at all a problem with iTunes or the record label 'cause those guys have no say in this. This is all the Yosh.
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They definitely re-recorded Toshi, and the bass is a deeper sound in this recording. It is by far the cleanest and best version of the song so far. It's juuuust different enough that you notice.
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ForeverFades, I can't tell if your sarcastic comment was directed at me or not. If it was, I encourage you to re-read my last post, where I said it was probably a botch on the iTunes of North America's. However, when Yoshiki is the one to announce that it will be released worldwide and it then isn't, whether or not he was the one to blame, it's on him to make sure it happens. I'm not saying he needs to fly in and fix every problem, but he shouldn't be ignoring it either. His Facebook has been updated several times since yesterday, without one mention of Jade. I sincerely doubt that no matter how busy he is, he didn't ask one person he works with "So how did the Jade release go"?, and no one told him at all that this situation happened. It takes three seconds to tell your assistant to update the Facebook (these guys rarely update their own pages). You need to realize that when you promise the masses something, you just made it your responsibility to deliver.
And frankly, before now, the vast majority of the delays HAS been because, frankly, Yoshiki takes on every project under the sun and doesn't finish a lot of them. He's totally fine with making his own wine, shooting music videos that never see the light of day, heading Violet UK, having a damn comic book based on him, etc. Most before now Yoshiki promised a release, (mostly tentative ones, granted), he then falls short and doesn't even acknowledge it. I'm not going to get into the Earthquake in Japan again, but I'll keep it at "I doubt it was ready for release when he said it was going to be and he used the earthquake as an excuse".
So honestly, the fact that once again we didn't get what we were told we would, whether or not it was Yoshiki's fault, it's still annoying as a fan. It's awesome that we're getting any new content at all, but seriously, what other artist gets away with doing this on a normal basis? Considering they're trying to reach out to North American fans as one of their primary target markets, this is kind of crazy.
I went to Yoshiki's facebook page, where there's quite a few fans mentioning this. One fan (Breanna Johnson) posted this, although I don't know the validity of the statement: "NOTE FROM ITUNES: "I understand you would like to purchase "Jade" on the iTunes Store for The United States. Unfortunately the artist or record label has not made that available for release in the US iTunes Store yet" "
If this is true? Wow. If it's false, no harm done, but it's on Yoshiki to push for, or, at the very least, explain what happened! It doesn't matter if he's in the middle of a tour. He promised this, it's on him to deliver. It's his responsibility.
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A few of my friends told me that yesterday there was some release delay glitch or something with iTunes but if iTunes responds with that message blaming EMI/X Japan....I wonder.
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Agreed, but once more, I'm not sure how valid that statement is. She didn't cite where she read it.
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She must have received in an email or something. I emailed iTunes about the single a few hours ago, I'll see if I get a response.
EDIT: JADE IS FINALLY UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
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wtf lol its still not up for canada
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What the heck? o.O USA has it...but not Canada?
CANADIANS KEEP REQUESTING IT TO ITUNES! Maybe that'll help.
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FYI, I had to actually search "jade x japan" to find it on iTunes...it wasn't in the X Japan category on itunes when you search "x japan". Really weird! But give that a try!
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Well, the important thing is it's out. Well, except Canada--so far. Now let's see what comes first: The Album or Born To Be Free :P *evil laugh*
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anyone upload jade itunes version? jade still not available in my country
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Just downloaded it, thanks for the search tip starwarsartist :D I guess they decided to cut the piano intro, probably for the best. I hope they actually release the REAL PV for Jade sometime. The LA shoot PV is cool and all, but that crowd noise they use throughout the whole song is pretty annoying :/
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The LA shoot PV is cool and all, but that crowd noise they use throughout the whole song is pretty annoying :/
Agreed, that's my only real problem with the music video. When/if it gets around to being aired on TV, I'm sure it'll have updates, but the "concert" footage of the LA shoot is rather unique and cool.
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Just downloaded it, thanks for the search tip starwarsartist :D I guess they decided to cut the piano intro, probably for the best. I hope they actually release the REAL PV for Jade sometime. The LA shoot PV is cool and all, but that crowd noise they use throughout the whole song is pretty annoying :/
I hope they never release the full pv if it means it'll have that opening with that girl on the staircase seeing Yoshiki, and then that horrible close up of Yoshiki's face with that lipstick on, hope that footage never sees the light of day.
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I hope they never release the full pv if it means it'll have that opening with that girl on the staircase seeing Yoshiki, and then that horrible close up of Yoshiki's face with that lipstick on, hope that footage never sees the light of day.
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I agree that scene is absolutely cringe worthy, but my guess is that it'll probably be cut since they cut out the piano intro in the official itunes release of Jade. It would be nice to see the finished product though, since they invested so much time and effort in it.
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They definitely re-recorded Toshi, and the bass is a deeper sound in this recording. It is by far the cleanest and best version of the song so far. It's juuuust different enough that you notice.
There is nothing re-recorded, it's exactly the same than the teasers we got months ago, only the audio obviously has better quality.
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X JAPAN "JADE", won first place in dignity.Ranking mu-mo
1位「JADE」X JAPAN
2位「GO GO サマー!」KARA
3位「ジューダス」レディー・ガガ
4位「マル・マル・モリ・モリ!」薫と友樹、たまにムック｡
5位「モトカレ」Juliet
http://news.mu-mo.net/view/16998
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to bad we cant hear it up here in Canada lol
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to bad we cant hear it up here in Canada lol
Haha, +1.
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I just bought Jade from Amazon US
http://www.amazon.com/Jade/dp/B005AET0EI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=dmusic&qid=1309983618&sr=8-2
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bought my download version right before I went to anime expo, was listening to this while walking and sleeping and thought about maybe making this an anime AMV with deadman wonderland.....
but yea this version is awesome, america should make it number 1 too....
I thought the song was being released worldwide on the same day so Canda still doesnt have it? wow
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Sugizo just released a statement about the release of Jade in Japan. One area of interest includes this remark:
"Our recording still continues for the new album. We are trying our best to release it in this year somehow."
Last we heard, the album was slated for a late summer release, but with them STILL recording, i'm not sure I see them making this release possible. I think we'll be expecting another delay. :P
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@ Brandon: Everything will remain unaffected. :P :P :P
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As much recording as they have done...we could have had 3 or 4 albums (or even a damn box set) of material by now.
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but it seems they won´t share it with us, but keeping it for themselfs and listen to it alone at home ::) ::) ::)
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It's actually insane how long it's taking them...especially when 50% of the content is just a re-record in English. This album should not be taking 2-3 years to release. In my opinion, fuck the cartoon character with Marvel/Stan Lee and focus more on the MUSIC. The comic is kind of lame publicity/another way to rake in cash. I hope Yoshiki's head hasn't gotten too big in North America. I love them man but wow...the album should be their top priority along with the tour (which is finally happening)
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more stuff
http://www.barks.jp/news/?id=1000071555
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This is exactly what happened with Dahlia. In the end, the album just ended up being a singles collection from the previous few years. The problem is, unfortunately, that Y just can't let go of the recordings. He's said it in the past and reiterated again in a recent interview.
Meanwhile, golden opportunities are missed and fans become disillusioned. I remember feeling the same way when I was waiting for Dahlia to come out.
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more news about the single jade
which was released on July 13 in south asia
http://natalie.mu/music/news/53036
http://jisin.jp/serial/%E3%82%A8%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BF%E3%83%A1/X_JAPAN/4115
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@ Brandon - And nothing of value was lost.... seriously. (I'm trying to be mean or anything, but. . . to me, it feels like they're just throwing out excuses for the Hell of it.)
@ Niwatorinator - Isn't new album supposed to have only a few new songs (i.e. "Jade") & the rest just re-dubs of old songs?
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more stuff JADE
http://www.barks.jp/news/?id=1000070709
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@ Brandon - And nothing of value was lost.... seriously. (I'm trying to be mean or anything, but. . . to me, it feels like they're just throwing out excuses for the Hell of it.)
@ Niwatorinator - Isn't new album supposed to have only a few new songs (i.e. "Jade") & the rest just re-dubs of old songs?
Yes that's what the problem is in my opinion. The new songs and old songs have no continuity in sound or production. If you listen to, say, Jade and the original Kurenai back to back on an album, it just doesn't sound right.
I think that might be what Y is struggling with... making a collection of songs sound like an album.
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"Jade" debut #1 on iTunes in Japan
http://yokosonews.com/entertainment/x-japan-jade-ranked-1-itunes-japan/
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Yeah, even as a blind X-Japan follower myself, I feel that this recording time has taken far too long.
The faithfuls will still go, the shows will still be great, but it feels like promotion for nothing sometimes. The comic may be awesome but what does it lead to? If anything, new fans might get disenchanted waiting for so long, will say "Screw this" and just download the original Japanese tracks along with the endless sea of live footage out there. He'd be better off just releasing what he has already- the live footage from L.A. mixed with the promotional stuff he shot inside the theater with the masquerade and stuff, finally using that footage from the Nokia Theater for the Born to be Free track(everyone forget about that? XD ) and just kinda doing a last minute touch up of stuff and releasing his god damned stuff.
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X JAPAN新曲『JADE』隠された意味は？
Song X JAPAN "JADE" is a hidden meaning?
posted the matter here
someone can translate
http://contents.innolife.net/news/list.php?ac_id=4&ai_id=136306
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agreed you should only take so long to release something, 2010 was so much filming and recording including adding the fans and not everything was release so fans got tired. The push back of Jade came because of the "earthquakes".
Born free would be nice to have had sooner but we all know Yoshiki is a perfectionist and wants it done they way he imagines and won't settle for less but let's not hope it lags the new cd too long, even thou they still have a long tour ahead of them.
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Here the lyrics as the were printed in the Band Score:
Walk through the light to find the shadow,
Til' your gods stall you from the edge,
Sunk in the thought, the feel, the distance,
Was it your secret?
Stop holding your fear, let memory live and die alone.
No need to be there, let your desire scream,
Til' you feel alive.
'Cause you are beautiful,
Your scars are beautiful,
Like the jade.
You'll still shine, when you sink into the sea,
When the bleeding scarlet jealousy, carves the way you believe.
Brink of the light, the wings of the night,
Look into the eyes of fallen angels,
Sink like a stone in the dark,
Where no light can touch.
Will god break my fall?
I feel the mystery, tries to take me along,
To the end of the world, where I still believe,
The colour is from your eyes.
'Cause you were beautiful,
Your blood was beautiful, yesterday,
I still hide at the seam of memories,
Oh, I still hold my rosary, beneath the pain of life.
Where the tears, when the bloody face of love, they take away the stain,
Know that the stars of the sky,
Glow in the ocean,
The art of life,
Makes me wanna die in the colour of heaven.
Oh, another day has gone,
Another friend has gone into the flame,
It's burning now, jibun de krisaita mune no kizuato sae birei ni naru made.
Oh, 'cause you are beautiful,
Your scars are beautiful, like the jade,
You'll still shine, when you sink into the sea,
When the bleeding scarlet jealousy carves the way you believe,
Now and forever, you'll be loved,
Let your destiny lead your heart
My jade
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thanks friend
I'm training her for the show in Brazil
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found this today - seems there is some progress in releasing "new" stuff: http://www.xjapanmusic.com/news/
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If old news from like 3 months ago is new...
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b211/DefectivePhil/iDontWantToLiveOnThisPlanetAnymoreLandscape.png)
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3 month? I thought the vid was made in january 2010, so we can speak of a classics, can´t we? :P
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This is true, but they put the same version up on youtube about three months ago is what I mean.
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I don't quite know why this is news considering the video has been on iTunes for quite a while anyway....well it has in New Zealand and Japan anyway...
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Still waiting on the one Dean Karr directed...I bet Yoshiki didn't even finish it.