would it be okay if i had a vagina for an avatar w/ examples

Uncontrol · **Reply #1 on:** May 23, 2008, 11:10:20 AM

what? why?

ferret · **Reply #2 on:** May 23, 2008, 11:25:52 AM

No naked vag, penis, tits and no porn icons, because Hypno says so.

Next time, ask a mod/admin via pm and spare the others pics like that, please.

Sander · **Reply #3 on:** May 23, 2008, 03:30:38 PM

Why? Because there are underage people in this forum.

I'm not aware of laws in other countries, but by Estonian laws it's illegal to expose sexual content to children under the age of 14 and I believe there is at least one user who is younger than that. And possibly some guests also.

xScQ · **Reply #4 on:** May 23, 2008, 06:14:16 PM

This is outrageous!

X avatar > X Forum.
Vagina Tit penis avatar > Vagina Forum.

k.

jigokugal · **Reply #5 on:** May 23, 2008, 06:56:52 PM

.........is this a serious question? I thought it was a complete joke........

ferret · **Reply #6 on:** May 23, 2008, 07:01:36 PM

Quote from: "jigokugal"

.........is this a serious question? I thought it was a complete joke........

Well, the pic was kinda funny...sort of

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Vagina Tit penis avatar > Vagina Forum.

Whaaa they told me no penis icons were allowed in the vag forum >:O

VioletCamicat · **Reply #7 on:** May 23, 2008, 09:01:37 PM

Take a picture of a fresh apple pie. Some movie is telling me they're just as good as vaginas.

Looks more yummy anyway..

friday · **Reply #8 on:** May 24, 2008, 02:47:33 AM

Quote from: "VioletCamicat"

Looks more yummy anyway..

lol of the day.

Uncontrol · **Reply #9 on:** May 24, 2008, 08:42:24 AM

Well, my logic was if the vanishing vision cover is OK, why not my image?

i mean it's just the reverse of it essentially. Except mine was more nice and light hearted, while the X cover was vile looking and had the scent of rape.

Sander · **Reply #10 on:** May 24, 2008, 12:11:08 PM

Well tits are one thing, vaginas a whole step forward... Or rather downwards...

As Ferret said, you should have PMed those pictures to an admin/mod first (like to me...)...

And the VV cover hasn't been posted here that much as I know...

Hollywood · **Reply #11 on:** May 24, 2008, 05:05:15 PM

Quote from: "Hypno"

And the VV cover hasn't been posted here that much as I know...

...You mean the VV cover wouldn't be allowed to be posted? (Or did I mistake your meaning?)

No comment on vagina avatars :lol:, but I would hope that any imagery from X's own albums would be OK to post on an X forum.

Sander · **Reply #12 on:** May 24, 2008, 05:25:15 PM

Quote from: "Hollywood"

Quote from: "Hypno"
And the VV cover hasn't been posted here that much as I know...

...You mean the VV cover wouldn't be allowed to be posted? (Or did I mistake your meaning?)

It would be allowed... But it just hasn't been posted much anyway...

Hollywood · **Reply #13 on:** May 24, 2008, 05:26:39 PM

Ah, OK, I get what you mean then.

X-J · **Reply #14 on:** July 12, 2008, 11:03:09 AM

"Some" cultures are pretty touchy on sexuality, but others are not (confer contemporary US and Japan). In the US, to my knowledge, it is illegal to, for instance, take a photo (with cam or video) of a nude child while in Finland, all people many times go to sauna together naked until their teens, sometimes beyond. Since Hypno hails from Estonia, and Estonia may be the most American country in Europe, I understand that sex may get offensive.

However, interestingly enough, there are repetitive allusions to sex in X Japan's lyrics.

Disallowing or banning sexual material and allusions to sex would be like banning the Sermon on the Mount on a Christian forum. It is logically absurd, really. I don't believe the spirit of X is close to Disney or Pat Robertson. I thus think a bit more "anarchistic" as well as artistic approach would be more faithful to the concept of X without condoning to conservative ethics. "Cleansing up" the concept of X only strikes me as an effort to make X more "US-friendly". For an interesting comparison, one may look at the latest Zelda on Wii where the characters practically live in America in terms of rhetoric and ideology.

MiscastDice · **Reply #15 on:** July 12, 2008, 11:21:02 AM

Quote from: "X-J"

"Some" cultures are pretty touchy on sexuality, but others are not (confer contemporary US and Japan). In the US, to my knowledge, it is illegal to, for instance, take a photo (with cam or video) of a nude child while in Finland, all people many times go to sauna together naked until their teens, sometimes beyond. Since Hypno hails from Estonia, and Estonia may be the most American country in Europe, I understand that sex may get offensive.

However, interestingly enough, there are repetitive allusions to sex in X Japan's lyrics.

Disallowing or banning sexual material and allusions to sex would be like banning the Sermon on the Mount on a Christian forum. It is logically absurd, really. I don't believe the spirit of X is close to Disney or Pat Robertson. I thus think a bit more "anarchistic" as well as artistic approach would be more faithful to the concept of X without condoning to conservative ethics. "Cleansing up" the concept of X only strikes me as an effort to make X more "US-friendly". For an interesting comparison, one may look at the latest Zelda on Wii where the characters practically live in America in terms of rhetoric and ideology.

I fucking LOVE YOU

Belle & Sebastian · **Reply #16 on:** July 12, 2008, 12:54:24 PM

Quote from: "Hypno"

Well tits are one thing, vaginas a whole step forward... Or rather downwards...

As Ferret said, you should have PMed those pictures to an admin/mod first (like to me...)...

And the VV cover hasn't been posted here that much as I know...

hey hypno my friend,

thats EXACTLY what I (and probably oher users here as well), hate about this board:

rules that arent needed!! my suggestion for you:

just dont give a fuck! nobody would have fucking cared about uncontrols avatar being a vagina, a cock or a a cock inside a vagina, until he brought it up!

seriously, stop playing policeman, where police isnt needed. i'm referring to the good old times before the new rules were brought in and staff began thinking in an "everything-needs-to-be-controlled-and-ruled-over" way!

so long

MillieQOF · **Reply #17 on:** July 12, 2008, 12:56:19 PM

Quote from: "le.pilote"

nobody would have fucking cared about uncontrols avatar being a vagina, a cock or a a cock inside a vagina, until he brought it up!

I probably would have...

Belle & Sebastian · **Reply #18 on:** July 12, 2008, 01:00:12 PM

Quote from: "MillieQOF"

I probably would have...

yes because you are a medieval moralizer in a 21st century liberalized world

MillieQOF · **Reply #19 on:** July 12, 2008, 01:06:53 PM

Quote from: "le.pilote"

yes because you are a medieval moralizer in a 21st century liberalized world

I've surely surfed more porn than you've ever seen. That doesn't mean I want to see it on this forum.

Belle & Sebastian · **Reply #20 on:** July 12, 2008, 01:10:56 PM

Quote from: "MillieQOF"

I've surely surfed more porn than you've ever seen. That doesn't mean I want to see it on this forum.

you're getting on my nerves

MillieQOF · **Reply #21 on:** July 12, 2008, 01:15:13 PM

Quote from: "le.pilote"

you're getting on my nerves

The feelings are returned, baby <3

Belle & Sebastian · **Reply #22 on:** July 12, 2008, 01:16:19 PM

Quote from: "MillieQOF"

Quote from: "le.pilote"
you're getting on my nerves

The feelings are returned, baby <3

i suggest we get married immediately

MillieQOF · **Reply #23 on:** July 12, 2008, 01:17:04 PM

Quote from: "le.pilote"

Quote from: "MillieQOF"
Quote from: "le.pilote"
you're getting on my nerves

The feelings are returned, baby <3

i suggest we get married immediately

Yes, let's ^^

Sander · **Reply #24 on:** July 12, 2008, 02:19:20 PM

Quote from: "X-J"

*X-J's post about sex, saunas, Finland, Estonia, America, X and vaginas*

First of all, I go to sauna about once a week, sometimes more. Naked, unless with a person of the opposite sex, unless they are of close family. Estonia's sauna traditions are almost as strong as Finland's.

Second, the fact that X Japan used sex and explicit lyrics in their songs, doesn't mean that we should instantly allow porn here. One thing is everything used as art (like X Japan does), a whole other thing is having a hardcore image of sexual intercourse as an avatar in a forum, that is for discussion about a band.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for porn n shit, but not here. There are places for things, and this is not a place for porn.

Uncontrol · **Reply #25 on:** July 13, 2008, 07:05:03 AM

so, still no?

MiscastDice · **Reply #26 on:** July 13, 2008, 07:47:05 AM

Quote from: "Unfinished"

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First of all, I go to sauna about once a week, sometimes more. Naked, unless with a person of the opposite sex, unless they are of close family. Estonia's sauna traditions are almost as strong as Finland's.

Second, the fact that X Japan used sex and explicit lyrics in their songs, doesn't mean that we should instantly allow porn here. One thing is everything used as art (like X Japan does), a whole other thing is having a hardcore image of sexual intercourse as an avatar in a forum, that is for discussion about a band.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for porn n shit, but not here. There are places for things, and this is not a place for porn.

Well said Hypno

Never mind the icon itself had just as much artistic merit as the VV cover. So many people here haven't even seen it.

ferret · **Reply #27 on:** July 13, 2008, 10:28:00 AM

Quote from: "MiscastDice"

Never mind the icon itself had just as much artistic merit as the VV cover. So many people here haven't even seen it.

I have seen it and no, it doesn't.

You can say whatever you want, if you want to have a vagina icon go to a forum where it's allowed to have one, problem solved.

X-J · **Reply #28 on:** July 13, 2008, 09:33:53 PM

Quote from: "Hypno"

First of all, I go to sauna about once a week, sometimes more. Naked, unless with a person of the opposite sex, unless they are of close family. Estonia's sauna traditions are almost as strong as Finland's.

OK, great.

Quote from: "Hypno"

Second, the fact that X Japan used sex and explicit lyrics in their songs, doesn't mean that we should instantly allow porn here. One thing is everything used as art (like X Japan does), a whole other thing is having a hardcore image of sexual intercourse as an avatar in a forum, that is for discussion about a band.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for porn n shit, but not here. There are places for things, and this is not a place for porn.

There are shades between porn and Pat Robertson (not to mention that the standards of "porn" differ widely). I mentioned that for a band of such revolutionary, intense, sexual and aggressive ethos such as X Japan, too stringent, buttoned-up rules may strike one as peculiar since the idea behind the band is to break the rules and wreck havoc (at least emotionally). If it gets watered down... Well, the band becomes more generic.

That's why even provocative content ought to, IMO, be allowed. Of course not straightout porn but something subtly erotic, "untamed" and/or otherwise radical would be nice...

Sander · **Reply #29 on:** July 13, 2008, 09:48:42 PM

Quote from: "X-J"

That's why even provocative content ought to, IMO, be allowed. Of course not straightout porn but something subtly erotic, "untamed" and/or otherwise radical would be nice...

I'm not against artistic nudes etc and I also believe that we wouldn't even be breaking any Estonian laws (unless there are people under the age of 14 here; and I'm not that anti-lawbreaking anyway). But I'd rather let this forum be a place for discussion and maybe some fun. We can discuss nudity and such elsewhere