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The band => General chat => Topic started by: lakeisle on June 04, 2018, 02:08:27 AM
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Yoshiki announced yesterday on the Yoshiki Channel.
- An important announcement on July 8, LA time
- When X Japan album comes out, VUK album will also come out.
(Sorry, it's better not to believe this. I wrote about this separately below)
- Carnegie Hall DVD
- Yoshiki Photo Album
- New Yoshiki wine will be released at dinner show. In December, a more great version of wine will be released.
- 12 songs in new album
- Now preparing for the festival. Finished reserving a place for the festival.
○7/8 LA時間サプライズ重大発表ぶっ飛ぶ発表
○#XJAPAN のアルバムが出たら #VUK のアルバムも出る
○カーネギホールのDVD
○YOSHIKI写真集
○DSで新作YOSHIKIワイン12月にはものすごいバージョンのYOSHIKIワイン
○フェスは出たいけど大人の事情で、、、？
(https://i.imgur.com/JTDRZj8.jpg)
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This is promising! So it seems we have,
1. La Venus
2. Angel
3. Beneath the Skin
4. Hero
5. Rockstar
6. IV
7. Jade
8. Born to be Free
9. Kiss the Sky
Maybe we Will have 1-3 unheard songs, but its possible they could be short, instrumental tracks like a reworked "The Last Song"
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I was just skimming the old thread. Fun fact- the last album announcement will be almost exactly 3 years ago from this date, July 3rd 2015.
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I’m not excited...I’m not excited...OOOOOOO.
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Omg look how happy he looks in that screenshot... such a beautiful soul ;D
Aaand... VUK album on the same date as the X JAPAN album? If I post my address will someone come check my pulse to see if I'm still breathing?
I've been thinking of VUK so much lately and kind of downly thinking that it will never come out lol. I am super excited for the announcement in a few days... eeeeeee
Edit: I agree with you axl, that one of the songs is most likely The Last Song. It's the song that brings the new album full circle. Of course Yoshiki/X is full of surprises so they might not lead with that like they were planning to a few years ago but it is a good guess to assume it's included imo!
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He looks good. :) Look at his arms, dayum. :) I hope the announcement is a world tour! :) (and not some lame new product line LOL)
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- When X Japan album comes out, VUK album will also come out.
On one hand this comment makes me think " so, never? ;p" buuuuut after over a decade, I'm staying optimistic!
Definitely think the extra 4 songs will be instrumental/short pieces.
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Squeeeeeee! Thanks lakeisle!
- New Yoshiki wine will be released at dinner show. In December, a more great version of wine will be released.
So we can drown our sorrows in case he announces another release date delay? Thanks, Yoshiki, how very considerate of you. 8)
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He looks very pleased with himself in the screenshots. :) Hopefully a good sign for all these announcements. Cause that's a lot coming our way. ;D
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I hope they put "Standing Sex" on it ;D
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I hope they put "Standing Sex" on it ;D
Hahaha :D
BTW: What about Violet Love Song? That might be on the album, right? ^^°
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Right Scarlet Love Song,
I've totally forgotten about this song. But it's very nice.
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I'm cautiously optimistic.
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Do you guys mean Scarlett Love Song?
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Do you guys mean Scarlett Love Song?
That's it! I knew something was strange about the title. :D
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If both albums will be released on the same day, seems like there will be two albums that will never be released.
When he posted a picture of the supposed album master, in 2014, the first song of the album was "The Last Song". So I think it will still be there.
I have the feeling that Scarlet Love Song will not be on the album, as he is focusing in english songs. And somehow looks like he didn't like the song, as they NEVER played it live, and the single came out in 2010.
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I have the feeling that Scarlet Love Song will not be on the album, as he is focusing in english songs. And somehow looks like he didn't like the song, as they NEVER played it live, and the single came out in 2010.
Toshi and him did play it live a few times in those Toshi ft Yoshiki shows. But I don’t think it’s going to be on the album either. I’m not sure if I.V will be on it, Sugizo isn’t even on that song, unless they re-recorded it because Yoshiki said before that the original was 7 or 8 minutes long and had and actual guitar solo but he had to cut it short for the movie.
Violet UK coming out would be the most shocking thing of all tbh lol
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The fact that Yoshiki talked about having doubts about whether an album format still makes sense in today's market makes me wonder why he wants to put out a Violet Uk one. Maybe it's just a personal thing.
If he publishes it as an X/Violet Uk double album, I will have to fly to LA and kick him in the crotch.
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Maybe X Japan will be physical and Violet UK digital? I hope not though... I want them both to be physical albums
I might be more excited for the VUK album than X Japan's. I am as much a fan of VUK as X Japan so him saying they will come out together is very, very, very ,very good news to me.
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Maybe there is also a chance to get the recordings from S.K.I.N.?
let me dream...
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Maybe there is also a chance to get the recordings from S.K.I.N.?
let me dream...
Sugizo keeps saying SKIN isn't dead, let's believe in the man LOL
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I dont know anything about Violet UK but I'm welcoming the double release
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It has more Yoshiki juice in it perhaps... (sorry, couldn't resist LOL)
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It has more Yoshiki juice in it perhaps... (sorry, couldn't resist LOL)
10/10
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Hi, all!
I have something to talk about.
I didn't see the Yoshiki Channel myself(can't find the file or link :'(). I posted this post based on the blog below.
https://blog.naver.com/hayashix/221290539755
The blogger is reliable and much better at Japanese than me, so I translated the post directly.
But today, I was worried that the information was wrong, so I searched related keywords.
https://search.yahoo.co.jp/realtime/search?ei=UTF-8&rkf=1&p=yoshiki+%E9%87%8D%E5%A4%A7%E7%99%BA%E8%A1%A8
To sum up, Yoshiki said that X Japan's album recording will be finished by July.
Other things - the date of an important announcement(July 8th), Yoshiki photo album, Carnegie Hall DVD, Yoshiki wine etc. are all true.
But there is one thing that needs to be corrected. It is true that Yoshiki talked about Violet UK album. But he didn't say it comes out definitely. He just said "There is a possibility that it will be released(VioletUKのアルバムもでるかも！？).
I think it would be better not to expect the VUK album.
But X Japan album is sure to come out soon according to Yoshiki.
Finally!!
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Works for me :)
Sounds like a Fall release date is very reasonable and likely
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I hope the announcement is a world tour! :) (and not some lame new product line LOL)
I wish it too. Some Japanese expect it will be about Yoshiki solo activity. ;D
So we can drown our sorrows in case he announces another release date delay? Thanks, Yoshiki, how very considerate of you. 8)
Are you a genius? Yeah! The announcement that he will make on July 8th may be about the postponement of the album release. ah... I couldn't think of it. :(
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But there is one thing that needs to be corrected. It is true that Yoshiki talked about Violet UK album. But he didn't say it comes out definitely. He just said "There is a possibility that it will be released(VioletUKのアルバムもでるかも！？).
I think it would be better not to expect the VUK album.
But X Japan album is sure to come out soon according to Yoshiki.
Finally!!
That's really too bad... I think it would have been a great move tbh. A lot of X fans who really don't care about VUK would be motivated to buy VUK's album out of excitement and accessibility.
But I understand in hindsight that it was a lot to expect.
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That's really too bad... I think it would have been a great move tbh. A lot of X fans who really don't care about VUK would be motivated to buy VUK's album out of excitement and accessibility.
But I understand in hindsight that it was a lot to expect.
Too early to be disappointed. Because Yoshiki said there is a "possibility" that the album would be released, so hope still remains.
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But X Japan album is sure to come out soon according to Yoshiki.
Finally!!
I believe it, when Amazon told me, it's on the way to me. I also don't believe it when I've preordered it.
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But there is one thing that needs to be corrected. It is true that Yoshiki talked about Violet UK album. But he didn't say it comes out definitely. He just said "There is a possibility that it will be released(VioletUKのアルバムもでるかも！？).
I think it would be better not to expect the VUK album.
But X Japan album is sure to come out soon according to Yoshiki.
Finally!!
That's still great news. Two albums would have been awesome, but that's probably a bit too much anyway. Even if he just releases one of them finally fans will go crazy. ^^°
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I hope the announcement is a world tour! :) (and not some lame new product line LOL)
I wish it too. Some Japanese expect it will be about Yoshiki solo activity. ;D
ah nonononono I don't want to be right this time. :D no new products Yoshiki please. :D just do the world tour :D btw, lakeisle, we are missing you on chat!
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the great announcement:
"Hey Fans,
I've got a new dog!"
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the great announcement:
"Hey Fans,
I've got a new dog!"
"It's a super cute Chihuahua-Pomeranian-Mix and his name is 'Eternal'."
;D ;D ;D
Sorry I couldn't resist.
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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the great announcement:
"Hey Fans,
I've got a new dog!"
Ah but one of his emergency announcements was Lady’s X... Prefer the dog to this. Or maybe he will announce the album is delayed again #YoshikiStyle.
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He will announce a cat this time. 8) He is jealous of CaToshi. ::)
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He will announce a cat this time. 8) He is jealous of CaToshi. ::)
That's definetely an important announcement! I love cats and can totally understand the jeasouly here. :D
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He will announce a cat this time. 8) He is jealous of CaToshi. ::)
That's definetely an important announcement! I love cats and can totally understand the jeasouly here. :D
but isn't Yoshikitty a cat?
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Yeah but not a real cat. I meant a real pet cat. :D
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That makes no sense because CaToshi isn’t a real cat pet either...
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He will announce a cat this time. 8) He is jealous of CaToshi. ::)
That's definetely an important announcement! I love cats and can totally understand the jeasouly here. :D
but isn't Yoshikitty a cat?
Yes that's true. Yoshikitty is a cat, but more cats are always better. *crazycatladymode on* =*___*=
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ah nonononono I don't want to be right this time. :D no new products Yoshiki please. :D just do the world tour :D
In my opinion, the most likely guess for the important announcement is "festival". He is likely to announce the date and venue of the upcoming festival on that day. And the festival is likely to be Visual Japan Summit.
but isn't Yoshikitty a cat?
Reportedly, he talked about Yoshikitty again that day. (If Yoshikitty doesn't take first place, album will not come out...blah blah) My wish is not a new album nor a world tour. My wish to hit Yoshiki once. That is my dream.
(https://i.imgur.com/sKsdn7t.gif)
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In my opinion, the most likely guess for the important announcement is "festival". He is likely to announce the date and venue of the upcoming festival on that day. And the festival is likely to be Visual Japan Summit.
Reportedly, he talked about Yoshikitty again that day. (If Yoshikitty doesn't take first place, album will not come out...blah blah) My wish is not a new album nor a world tour. My wish to hit Yoshiki once. That is my dream.
(https://i.imgur.com/sKsdn7t.gif)
Hahaha. :D That's some dream!
The festival thing sounds a lot more plausible than the bullshit we came up with. It might actually be about that. ^^
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If he will blame the album not coming out on Yoshkitty's failure to grab first place, I will seriously hit him, too :D BTW Yoshikitty is third now and you can still vote for 3 days, and he is behind the 1st place figure with only some 20 thousand votes so VOOOTE :D https://sanriocharacterranking.com/en/characters/yoshikitty/
it's interesting though that Yoshikitty is leading by vote in Germany, Italy, France, South Korea and Mainland China :-*
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Germany has a large Metal fanbase and thousands of X fans! The german festival "Wacken" is the biggest Metal festival in the world (as far as I know).
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in my opinion, the most likely guess for the important announcement is "festival". He is likely to announce the date and venue of the upcoming festival on that day. And the festival is likely to be Visual Japan Summit.
I was very intrigued when I first read that, too. I wonder if the festival won't be abroad, though. This year they played at Coachella, last year they played at Wembley, in 2016 Yoshiki did Sundance, in 2014 there was MSG and Yoshiki at Japan Expo... there's a bit of a pattern there: one year in the US, one year in Europe. YoshToshBGosh has a point, Wacken is a good candidate, pretty much like the French Hellfest or Download, in the UK. But since they seem so reluctant to take part in actual metal festivals these days, I'd say... Creamfields, maybe? ;D
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I found weird that they won't play on Lunatic Fest this year.
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Probably would be too much for Sugizo... he also plays both days with Luna Sea
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But last time they played there and Luna Sea played 2 days at VJS 2016 too. I don’t think it has anything to do with Sugizo, most likely Yoshiki is unable to make it for whatever reason (“recording” or who knows what).
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Someone informed me during the Kurenight last night. According to this blog, Yoshiki mentioned the song "Larme", which will be on the new album. Here is the video.
https://blog.naver.com/nassyican/221215597176
(Yoshiki talks about Larme in the first video, from around 24:00~ )
Yoshiki said he finished his work with the orchestra and the recording for this song. Reportedly, Yoshiki played this song for about a minute at the Yoshiki Dinner Show in 2015. He talked about this song in interview decades ago.
Here is a short translation on "Larme".
http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~reiko/database/text/temp/0068_1.html
FOOL'S MATE 146, December 1993 (interviewer : 羽積秀明)
(the interview about perfume "Larme" is omitted)
-- Where did the name "Larme" come from?
YOSHIKI : This is the title that I've been sticking to since long time ago. It's very interesting. If you put apostrophe in the word "Larme" and make "L'arme", it means weapon in France. Removing the apostrophe makes the word tears.
-- The word has an ambiguous meaning.
YOSHIKI : Yes, it's interesting. Besides, there is already a song with this title.
-- Do you mean "Tears" in English?
YOSHIKI : No. There is a song called "Larme". It was not released, but I wrote it before making "Jealousy". The ambitious work that has not been disclosed even to members yet.
-- Then, does the timing of the song release depend on Yoshiki's own instinct?
YOSHIKI : At the time of "Jealousy", other members wanted to write songs and so did I. Back then, I listened to all the members' songs and gave the album an overall checkup, then filled up what I thought was lacking with my songs. In other words, the album already existed in me from the beginning. There was "Jealousy" in my own. So putting the songs that were written by other members, I thought like "I'd better take this song out" and I took out my song. In my first plan, the album contained "Larme".
-- When you had to write "Tears" for Kouhaku('92), if you had such an ambitious work, weren't you tempted to release it?
YOSHIKI : Hahaha! It's not like that. Yeah, I think I should release it soon, but everything I'm doing is connected inside of me. Ultimately, when the time comes, I believe all of that can be understood by people.
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Interesting interview. So the song belongs to the Jealousy album. Just yesterday I was marveling at the realization that Yoshiki only wrote 4 of the 10 songs on that album, and one of those was the 1:54 long instrumental Piano es Dur.
(For anyone that's interested: Yoshiki wrote 4 songs on that album, hide wrote 3, Taiji wrote 1, Taiji and Toshi wrote 1, and Pata wrote 1.)
I wish I knew how much Yoshiki has changed of Larme between now and then. I remember hearing that small snippet from the dinner show in 2015 and thinking it was the most beautiful I'd ever heard. Wish I could find it again!
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Taiji and Toshi wrote 2, Desperate Angel and Voiceless Screaming :) That was when Yoshiki had his neck injury and was out for months while the band worked on the album. Besides, all the problems with Art of Life and the double album that was ditched, so I’m guessing this song was one of those that were left out from the Jealousy sessions.
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Taiji and Toshi wrote 2, Desperate Angel and Voiceless Screaming :) That was when Yoshiki had his neck injury and was out for months while the band worked on the album. Besides, all the problems with Art of Life and the double album that was ditched, so I’m guessing this song was one of those that were left out from the Jealousy sessions.
Oh I never knew Toshi co-wrote Desperate Angel!
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Interesting interview. So the song belongs to the Jealousy album. Just yesterday I was marveling at the realization that Yoshiki only wrote 4 of the 10 songs on that album, and one of those was the 1:54 long instrumental Piano es Dur.
(For anyone that's interested: Yoshiki wrote 4 songs on that album, hide wrote 3, Taiji wrote 1, Taiji and Toshi wrote 1, and Pata wrote 1.)
I wish I knew how much Yoshiki has changed of Larme between now and then. I remember hearing that small snippet from the dinner show in 2015 and thinking it was the most beautiful I'd ever heard. Wish I could find it again!
Jealousy was intended to be a double album called "Art of Life", but due to pressure of Sony, they didn't have enough time and released a single one. Standing Sex was one of the songs that should have been released on it. Larme was another one, and Taiji had other songs that weren't finished for the album and released the "Rose and Blood" album years later.
Jealousy was the most "interesting" album for me, due to all the story behind it.
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Another unheard song? Awesome!
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If I had to guess I'd also go with some festival dates over a new album release date (which we've had many over the last 10 years)... Actually I would really like a DVD of the first World Tour they did back in 2011.
Oh and I'm sure any albums they release will have a physical version - that way You can have the two normal versions and four to six limited editions, which fans will all buy ;)
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Oh and I'm sure any albums they release will have a physical version - that way You can have the two normal versions and four to six limited editions, which fans will all buy ;)
I second that. Pretty sure there will be a physical release (If there is any release at all). The Limited Editions are a perfect way to milk fans money.
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(...) Actually I would really like a DVD of the first World Tour they did back in 2011.
Maybe, but Toshis voice was in a real bad shape back then
(...) The Limited Editions are a perfect way to milk fans money.
;D exactly!
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(...) Actually I would really like a DVD of the first World Tour they did back in 2011.
I was in their concert in Brazil. And his voice was amazing.
Toshi's voice was awful in 1994 concerts and they released DVDs anyway. I don't think this is a problem...
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Yoshiki from a tweet yesterday morning "There will be an announcement tomorrow" (https://twitter.com/YoshikiOfficial/status/1006479634710450176)
Tomorrow is now today. There is no sign of any announcement. If Yoshiki can't keep his word for 24 hours, how can we expect him to keep promises of releasing the album that span YEARS?
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Yoshiki from a tweet yesterday morning "There will be an announcement tomorrow" (https://twitter.com/YoshikiOfficial/status/1006479634710450176)
Tomorrow is now today. There is no sign of any announcement. If Yoshiki can't keep his word for 24 hours, how can we expect him to keep promises of releasing the album that span YEARS?
Came here to post exactly this.
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I think it is certain that Yoshiki enjoys somehow making a fool of his fans. I hated him for about 2 years. Well, I am hopeless to follow him again.
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I think we should all take a step back and wait to see that nothing bad has happened first. Yoshiki has people to post on Twitter for him and they didn't make the announcement either, which means whatever they planned on announcing didn't line up. We don't know what or maybe even WHO was involved that might have changed things.
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I think we should all take a step back and wait to see that nothing bad has happened first. Yoshiki has people to post on Twitter for him and they didn't make the announcement either, which means whatever they planned on announcing didn't line up. We don't know what or maybe even WHO was involved that might have changed things.
Oh, the fact that Yoshiki's/X's staff is pretty incompetent is long known in the fandom...
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Oh, the fact that Yoshiki's/X's staff is pretty incompetent is long known in the fandom...
Exactly. It is no surprise... It is their typical incompetence that they've proven over the years.
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So it turns out that he's playing solo at Lunatic Fest, which is pretty cool.
But why solo and not with X? :-[ Don't get me wrong, I love his classical solo stuff, but wouldn't X be a better fit for LF's vibes?
Well, anyway, I'm happy he's doing something.
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Yoshiki from a tweet yesterday morning "There will be an announcement tomorrow" (https://twitter.com/YoshikiOfficial/status/1006479634710450176)
Tomorrow is now today. There is no sign of any announcement. If Yoshiki can't keep his word for 24 hours, how can we expect him to keep promises of releasing the album that span YEARS?
The announcement is made, I think we need to consider the time differences. LA time "tomorrow" is not our "tomorrow". :)
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He announced it at 1am LA time, it wasn’t “tomorrow” in LA anymore either :) weird announcement, Lunatic Fest as expected but...
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Yoshiki from a tweet yesterday morning "There will be an announcement tomorrow" (https://twitter.com/YoshikiOfficial/status/1006479634710450176)
Tomorrow is now today. There is no sign of any announcement. If Yoshiki can't keep his word for 24 hours, how can we expect him to keep promises of releasing the album that span YEARS?
The announcement is made, I think we need to consider the time differences. LA time "tomorrow" is not our "tomorrow". :)
Might want to get your facts straight before making another Yoshiki-apologist post. We got the announcement and it's "meh" at best.
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Guess you're being a little harsh, Feudal. The announcement might not have been what we expected, but it's still a nice thing. I guess. I mean, I'm not sure how he's going to do his piano thing at a rock festival, but knowing Yoshiki, he must have a card up his sleeve, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. 8)
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The real announcement we care about is July 8th so lets wait until then to riot lol.
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As this announcement is not the one we were expecting to get on July 8th I'm still looking forward to the one in july. ;)
Him performing at Lunatic Fest is okay I guess. Although as an attendant I'd prefer a rock performance instead of a piano one.
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Yeah, I don’t think it’s anything to get upset about. He said he had an announcement about X Japan on July 8th, this time he only said he had an announcement and posted a video of Yoshiki Classical so it was kinda expected to be some kind of solo activity.
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Yoshiki from a tweet yesterday morning "There will be an announcement tomorrow" (https://twitter.com/YoshikiOfficial/status/1006479634710450176)
Tomorrow is now today. There is no sign of any announcement. If Yoshiki can't keep his word for 24 hours, how can we expect him to keep promises of releasing the album that span YEARS?
The announcement is made, I think we need to consider the time differences. LA time "tomorrow" is not our "tomorrow". :)
Might want to get your facts straight before making another Yoshiki-apologist post. We got the announcement and it's "meh" at best.
You're being unnecessary rude and attack people for no reason. It's not a Yoshiki-apologist post, it's a simple statement of time zone differences. And heck, you check your facts then, because Yoshiki's "big announcement" is scheduled for the 8th of July. You can get all worked up then, keep your ammunition for that post. LOL.
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It's not a Yoshiki-apologist post, it's a simple statement of time zone differences.
No timezone in the world can delay a whole day. Just check the post times.
It's just another Yoshiki's mess. A small one for a shitload he already had made. Nothing to worry about.
But is kinda "meh" he will play solo at Lunatic Fest.
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So! Are we still expecting some sort of announcement in a few days time?
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Well, I am! It's today 8)
Fingers crossed.
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Staying optimistic. Hope for a release date, album name, and track listing
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I think it’s a new flavor of Yoshiki noddles
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That is certainly more likely
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X Japan ft Hyde are going to play the opening song for the 3rd season of Attack On Titan
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A new song? Awesome. Hope it's a rocker. Who's Hyde?
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Hyde is the singer of L’arc en Ciel
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It was announced at Anime Expo 2018. Yoshiki hasn’t said anything yet, typical.
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Its early in LA still
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Yes but Anime Expo IS in LA
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He originally made it seen like his announcement would pertain to the album, right? Its only 3 in LA so I wouldnt worry yet
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He only said he was going to announce something about X Japan. What I meant is that the announcement is obviously related to this song with Hyde and it’s been hours since they announced this and Yoshiki is still quiet lol
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We all know Yoshiki. Probably that's the announcement.
Another useless collab.
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Yeah... Dissapointing like always but at least we get a tangible new song. Hope it rocks and that Toshi or any other members arent sidelined.
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I don't know why anyone would be disappointed by this.... it's very exciting news. Attack on Titan is popular so X is guaranteed a ton of exposure from it. That's how I got exposed to them.. through anime. Plus we're getting a new song that's going to be released this month, if AOT season 3 is still released when it was scheduled to so this is a win/win.
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Oh shit, its this month? Awesome
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I have to say its dissapointing because the longer the wait is, the less likely an album becomes
However, a new song we have never heard of sounds awesome. Especially since it is a studio recording coming so soon
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Well, I think cauz Yoshiki has much more money, it is easy for him whether their music are not worked out at all...
We all know Yoshiki. Probably that's the announcement.
Another useless collab.
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He should at least make an official announcement himself, since he said he had an announcement... but he’s quiet, as always
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He originally made it seen like his announcement would pertain to the album, right? Its only 3 in LA so I wouldnt worry yet
He didnt make it seem like that. It is just us who were guessing about it. He only said there would be an announcement. He also didn't say he would make the announcement himself.
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I'm actually pretty excited about this. It's a new song. We don't get new X songs everyday, so... it's something.
Hyde really isn't my cup of tea but I'm looking forward to see what he can pull off with Toshi. (He actually has a great voice, it's just his music style that doesn't do it for me). Btw, agree with what was said above, 'Red Swan' is the most neo-Yoshiki song title ever :P
I'm bummed the announcement wasn't about a tour or the album, though. It's been 2 years since they last played in Europe, I had hopes of a concert date in the old continent.
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So far I've only watched the first season of AoT but that one I liked. A new song is also always something to be happy about, but still ... have to say I was expecting a little bit more. Seems I'm now forced to binge watch the second season. ;)
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This will be the 7th officially released track since the reunion-
IV
Jade
Scarlet Love Song
Born to be Free
La Venus (unplugged)
Without You
Red Swan
Unreleased songs-
Hero
Beneath the Skin
Angel
La Venus
Unheard songs-
Kiss the Sky (snippets heard)
Rockstar (few seconds heard)
Anything else?
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On other news, Yoshiki is an idiot. This song is not X Japan, it’s Sugizo on violin, Yoshiki on piano and Hyde on vocals, no Heath, Pata... and NO Toshi on vocals. This is obviously Yoshiki’s dumb idea and it’s terrible Because:
1. It says it will be on X Japn’s new album. If it ever comes out, it better be a version with Toshi on vocals or / and full band.
2. This was actually a good marketing chance that was completely destroyed. People that don’t know the band will think Hyde is the singer or something, then listen to X and be WTF.
3. I like ballads but come on, the past openings for this anime were rock songs. SNK are already saying they wanted Linked Horizon again, now they’ll be even more upset.
I like Hyde, so I probably will like the song but it doesn’t change the fact that it’s a really stupid decision. Especially not including Toshi in it and calling it X Japan, it’s insulting to the guy. My guess is that it was meant to be Yoshiki and Hyde but he added Sugizo on violin just to call it X Japan.
https://www.barks.jp/news/?id=1000157371
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Hi there! Haven't been around here for a short time. Real life was busy... but today I received an E-Mail that said X Japan is releasing a new song. So I came here in an instant. ;D
Is it true that the new song will only be with Yoshiki, Sugizo and hyde? (I like hyde btw... no problem with that choice.)
In that case I'm pretty sure "Red Swan" won't be on the new album, since he already confirmed one other song to be on the album with a different singer (Marilyn Manson). He is probably just naming it X Japan feat. hyde to raise some attention to X again.
I want to hear that song. :D Very curious now. Damn Yoshiki... ^^°
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X japan without toshi voice is not X
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I will reserve judgement until I hear it, but if it is true that it is only Yoshiki, Sugizo and Hyde, why not just call it a “YOSHIKI” feat., song?
Unless it is actually a X Japan song and this is just the Hyde version?
Still excited to hear.
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In that case I'm pretty sure "Red Swan" won't be on the new album, since he already confirmed one other song to be on the album with a different singer (Marilyn Manson). He is probably just naming it X Japan feat. hyde to raise some attention to X again.
But he said he had other guests on the album tho, other than Manson. And it’s weird that this is being released as a single... an X Japan single.
I like Hyde, so I don’t doubt I will like it but still pretty disappointing because I expected actual X Japan, especially after he hyped this announcement for 2 months.
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Wtf no Toshi, Pata, and Heath? If true, Yoshiki lost his mind
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In that case I'm pretty sure "Red Swan" won't be on the new album, since he already confirmed one other song to be on the album with a different singer (Marilyn Manson). He is probably just naming it X Japan feat. hyde to raise some attention to X again.
But he said he had other guests on the album tho, other than Manson. And it’s weird that this is being released as a single... an X Japan single.
I like Hyde, so I don’t doubt I will like it but still pretty disappointing because I expected actual X Japan, especially after he hyped this announcement for 2 months.
Oh I did not know that he wanted to have so many guests on the new album. ^^°
Maybe later they will do a Version of this song with Toshi? Hmmm it is really weird. Just what is he doing with X? ^^°
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So, is it official that it will be only Yoshiki/Sugizo/Hyde? If that's the case, I echo mC's point - why not call it "Yoshiki feat. Hyde and Sugizo"?
As excited as I am to hear this, I kind of agree with you, y_tho. It's more than a little odd to include this song in the album and call it an X Japan song if only 2 bandmembers participate. If I was Toshi, Heath ot Pata, I would be a bit bummed.
Nothing against Hyde, once again, I like his voice, I'm sure he's going to do a great job. But making a song with 2 out of 5 bandmembers + a guest singer and calling it a [band]'s song is kind of unheard of. Also not a great introduction to the band for new fans as it's not really representative of what the band sounds like.
Fully agree with Kasumi if the rumors are confirmed - it is a marketing move to promote X Japan... except it's not X Japan.
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it is a marketing move to promote X Japan... except it's not X Japan.
A terrible marketing move.
It is a marketing move to promove Yoshiki, as usual. I said so many times, X isn't a band anymore. Is just something to inflate Yoshiki's ego, the other members aren't that important.
Do you know what would be a great move to promote X JAPAN? RELEASE THE FUCKING ALBUM. It's been more than ten years already.
Yoshiki says he wants to "conquer overseas", but in ten years he didn't release an album, just two digital singles with years between them. No new fans are going to their concerts, as they don't even have any material to listen to. The old albums were released only in Japan. Blue Blood and Jealousy recently appeared on Spotify and iTunes worldwide, but they are quite different from the "current X".
An Yoshiki song with Hyde on vocal shouldn't be named "X JAPAN" at all. Even japanese fans didn't receive the news so well, as you can see the comments on Twitter...
https://twitter.com/XJapanOfficial/status/1016527545213206528
Then the fans didn't like the idea of this new single. What Yoshiki does? Anoter "hide I miss you" widow-like post.
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I said a few months ago that I would try to be positive, but this is just asinine
I was thinking an anime song would be a rock tune with lots of guitars. I also figured Hyde may sing the verses or chorus while Toshi does the rest
Instead, this will be ANOTHER piano ballad and it wont even have X Japan on it. Having one original member on this and calling it an X song is pretty insulting. I know I said I wanted them to utilize Sugizo's violin more, but this isnt X Japan. Even if there is a "full" version with the rest of the guys being saved for the album, it will probably be locked away with the other unreleased songs, never to be heard.
In assuming the new delays are because Yoshiki wants to cram new songs with guests on it, but once that is some he can find more excuses to delay it.
Ugh, what the Fuck, Yoshiki
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Songs with guests that won’t even have Toshi singing. Poor Toshi. What the fuck Yoshiki? Nobody wants an X Japan album, after so long, with a bunch of guests singers, we just want X JAPAN. We want Toshi on vocals and the rest of the band actually playing in the songs.
One of the most insulting parts is that it says “It’s the first time Yoshiki writes an X Japan song for a voice that is not Toshi’s”. Excuse me? WTF? THEN IT’S NOT X JAPAN. I think Yoshiki really lost his mind this time.
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I hope for his sake that this was Toshi's idea, like 'c'mon let's drop the exclusivity, bring in some other bloke to sing this one while I drink my tea and chill'
Otherwise I would be pissed AF to see my band release a single with another dude on vocals and promoting it as 'OMG the first [band]'s song without [me]! Woah. Buy it now.'
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Seeing as Hyde is Yoshiki’s new BFF, I’m pretty sure it was that fake blonde’s dumb idea. And I actually hope Toshi is very pissed and let Yoshiki know, it’s very mean, especially after how he stepped up for Yoshiki and took care of everything while Yoshiki was in recovery. Yoshiki has 0 loyalty. By this logic, the Lunatic Fest performance of Say Anything with Sugizo and Teru is “X Japan”.
Yoshiki finally pissed off 95% of his fanbase in 1 night, even the japanese and that’s quite the accomplishment.
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Fuck this is bullshit
The more I think about it the more pissed I guess. You dont have X Japan without Toshi and Yoshiki
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Same here. I’m so fuxking pissed since last night, I woke up still upset. The japanese fans made a poll on twittee and why an overwhelming %, the winner out of 3 options was “No Toshi, No X”. I hope nobody buys this single, I was ready to throw my money at all the special editions and what not but I won’t be buying this, fuck it.
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I was bummed that the announcement had nothing to do with the album, but the prospect of a new studio recorded song was great. Especially since it was for a high energy show. I thought it must FINALLY have some good guitar work. Nope...
This is just stupid and backwards
Yoshiki must have read my post about trying to be more positive and decided he wanted to challenge us!
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You guys shouldn't assume people's emotions for them... we don't know why Toshi isn't singing this or if it was even Yoshiki's idea to push the whole "X with Hyde" thing. Even if it was, he's allowed to do this.
A lot of times studios/labels will have industry contracts with other media, like theme songs/soundtracks to fulfill. I've tried to do some digging but can anyone confirm which labels Hyde, Sugizo, and Yoshiki are under in Japan right now and if they're different, whether any are subsidiaries of each other?
Even without that being a possibility I really don't see why any of us should get SO up in arms about this. Any exposure is good exposure... if people like the song enough to go searching for X Japan, that's enough. Whether it's "representative" of "X Japan's sound" is besides the point.
What exactly is X's sound now anyway? I ask this of all of you sincerely. If you were to play BTBF for a friend, would you be playing X for them? Would JADE work better? Does IV fit the mold more so for you, or the snippets of Kiss the Sky? Those songs are all so different so there's no reason to freak out about this not representing the band because any newcomer will easily discover that there's a shit ton of variety anyway.
As for a newcomer liking Hyde's vocals and then hearing Toshi's...
1. Depending on the song, they might not even realize it right away and will end up liking songs by X before they do.
2. They'll like Toshi's vocals anyway and still notice the good music, and will go off searching for Hyde in ADDITION TO X Japan.
This isn't the end of the world guys lol. It'll work itself out.
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It seems that a lot of people are quite upset, but not me.
Yoshki is always X Japan. Whenever we have Yoshiki, then we have X Japan. ;D
Let's wait and see, maybe it's a brilliant song.
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I think returner's comment brought up some very interesting points and it's great to read from someone who disagrees with most of us. I agree that perhaps we are jumping to conclusions without knowing the whole story. Maybe this as not entirely Yoshiki's idea and maybe part of it is out of his control, even if I have a hard time imagining that scenario.
Still, there's some stuff I can't explain. Why is he silent about this? Why make such a fuss about this announcement and then drop the mic? Like y_tho pointed out on Discord, he probably knows something is not right. Was he fooled into agreeing with this marketing strategy by his moronic staff? Was there a fallout between the bandmembers during the creative process? Did he at some point think it was a good idea but then realised (too late) that he was wrong? In any case, his silence speaks volumes.
Any exposure is good exposure...
This is what I disagree the most with. X Japan is not supposed to be a reckless race for exposure or recognition. Bands are about making music, not selling cars. I think their recent obsession with exposure and converting newcomers is exactly what's wrong with post-reunion X. Do the ends really justify the means? Even if this song was fantastic, amazing enough to elevate X to Elvis' level in the West, would it still have been worth it? IMHO, no ends can justify replacing your vocalist and band co-founder of over 30 years with a dude from another band, leaving out an extremely talented guitarist and bassist and still calling this an 'X Japan' thing. And let's not forget about the part where they market this as a great new thing because Toshi isn't there. What do I know, though? Maybe Toshi is totally alright with this. Maybe he hated the song so much he insisted they find another bloke to sing it. But as a long-time fan, I can't help but feel a sort of second-hand humiliation. They're literally saying 3 out of 5 people in that band are unimportant enough to be replaced or left out. Which goes hand in hand with the treatment the actual (living) guitarists have received since 2008.
I wonder what would happen if Pata teamed up with Heath and Miyavi, made a song and then called it X Japan...
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It's weird, can't say I'm thrilled about this... Then again it's Yoshiki's band... And XClamation and Es Dur no Piano Sen are also "X Japan songs". So I'm takinga "meh" stance on this until I hear more details.
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I think returner's comment brought up some very interesting points and it's great to read from someone who disagrees with most of us. I agree that perhaps we are jumping to conclusions without knowing the whole story. Maybe this as not entirely Yoshiki's idea and maybe part of it is out of his control, even if I have a hard time imagining that scenario.
Still, there's some stuff I can't explain. Why is he silent about this? Why make such a fuss about this announcement and then drop the mic? Like y_tho pointed out on Discord, he probably knows something is not right. Was he fooled into agreeing with this marketing strategy by his moronic staff? Was there a fallout between the bandmembers during the creative process? Did he at some point think it was a good idea but then realised (too late) that he was wrong? In any case, his silence speaks volumes.
I am confused by the fact that neither Sugizo nor Yoshiki have posted about the song on their social media but that to me proves that this is not a vanity project on behalf of Yoshiki. I mentioned it in the chat but I might as well say it here, too, that if the theme song were truly for Yoshiki's ego than why involve Sugizo? If he's the one writing the violin than he could use anyone and keep the theme songs artist registry as Yoshiki feat. Hyde.
To say that the song is Yoshiki flexing his ego is saying that about Sugizo, too, because they're both calling themselves X without the other members, but everyone's only hating on Yoshiki.
We don't know what's going on or why these decisions were made but I do believe that putting X's name on something international will only help with the success of the album.
We should all be patient and also accept that none of us are tiny X flies on X walls.
Edit: X was always, always in a race for exposure, even back in Tokyo as 20-somethings. Yoshiki made Toshi give him all their proceeds from their first ep or tours or whatever (can't remember) and invested it in a magazine add; one of the covers (front or back) if I remember correctly. It was expensive and also not a popular thing to do for a metal band bc it targeted the mainstream.
Then they went and appeared on TV and were the first metal band to do that, too. They were heavily criticized by the underground bc it was seen as selling out, but X was only concerned about the exposure.
That's how we have the X Japan of today. That's how we had the Last Live and hide's solo career. That will never change about X and all the members are used to it (after 30 years I'd assume so, anyway.)
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Yoshki is always X Japan. Whenever we have Yoshiki, then we have X Japan. ;D
TRUE DAT!
X'~en~Ciel ;D
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Yoshki is always X Japan. Whenever we have Yoshiki, then we have X Japan. ;D
TRUE DAT!
X'~en~Ciel ;D
;D ;D ;D
Each group's marketing team is going to be so mad they didn't think of that lol
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Yoshki is always X Japan. Whenever we have Yoshiki, then we have X Japan. ;D
(https://imgflip.com/s/meme/How-About-No-Bear.jpg)
Yoshiki created X. But Yoshiki himself isn't X.
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It's weird, can't say I'm thrilled about this... Then again it's Yoshiki's band... And XClamation and Es Dur no Piano Sen are also "X Japan songs". So I'm takinga "meh" stance on this until I hear more details.
(https://i.imgur.com/tyTc1Nl.jpg)
One thing is a song composed by a member. ANother totally diferent is getting part of the band, recording with another totally unrelated guy just because he is famous and calling it X.
Xclamation was composed by hide and Taiji but the whole band worked on it. Es dur no Piano Sen is a Yoshiki solo as Love Replica is a hide solo. But all of them worked together.
And it's still Yoshiki's fault, as he always like to boost his ego and constantly say that EVERYTHING on X is his. He does, he composes, he produces. He is the guy who wanted to put random guests on the new album which will never be released. He is the one who makes empty promises time and time again.
This is certainly the most fucked up idea ever. And we are talking about the guy who make everyone wait for "important announcements" which turned to be Yoshikitty and Don Quijote products.
Is not hard for a musician to be recognized worldwide. He just need to make some fucking music.
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Yoshki is always X Japan. Whenever we have Yoshiki, then we have X Japan. ;D
(https://imgflip.com/s/meme/How-About-No-Bear.jpg)
Yoshiki created X. But Yoshiki himself isn't X.
And Toshi did too. Then we can say Toshi is X Japan as he created the band too and he’s the singer. X Japan is a band, not 1 person.
Thank you Joker, I don’t always agree with you but I agree completely with what you just said. I honestly don’t think it’s hard to understand why people are upset about this... and it’s very weird to me that people would compare actual X Japan songs like Xclamation, which is an instrumental to begin with, to this.
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X japan without toshi voice is not X
You can say that, again! No Toshi, no X!
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Wtf no Toshi, Pata, and Heath? If true, Yoshiki lost his mind
Yep! That's more than half the actual band, left out. Shameful if you ask me. :'(
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Well I can only think of one thing to say right now, other than my extreme dispeasure of Yoshiki apparently putting himself all over hide's Hurry Go Round. And that's that this decision is like as though Freddie Mercury was still alive and quite well and Brian May or Roger Taylor decided to do something using another singer such as Lambert, drop Brian as the guitarist and use someone else, too, and maybe one other original member and calling it Queen. It ain't gonna go. No go. If those members were the originals and they wrote music for the band, performed in that band and were well known as part of that band, then suddenly aren't there but someone else is there in their place, then it's not the same band.
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I also think it is irritating that he hasn't mendioned it on his twitter account.
Not too thrilled about calling it X Japan when only Yoshiki and Sugizo are involved + it being a ballad.
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It's interesting.
Sometimes people in this forum are saying "Yoshiki is X!" and in this case he is only a member of X.
Make your minds up! ;D
But really, there are many songs which are not "using" the complete band like many of the ballads or drain or such. And some ballads were also released as singles with no involvement of Pata or Heath. And to be honest Sugizo, Pata and Heath are equal X members. Yes, Toshi and Y are the oldest X guys but it's not the fault of the "newer" ones (well, Pata is playing there for over 30 years... new... uhmm). So in my opinion the other guys are X too.
And yes, I would like to see a Heath, Pata and Sugizo featuring something with Miyavi or B'z Inaba or someone else and call it X Japan :) Why not? Because we all are X! ;D
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It's interesting.
Sometimes people in this forum are saying "Yoshiki is X!" and in this case he is only a member of X.
Make your minds up! ;D
But really, there are many songs which are not "using" the complete band like many of the ballads or drain or such. And some ballads were also released as singles with no involvement of Pata or Heath. And to be honest Sugizo, Pata and Heath are equal X members. Yes, Toshi and Y are the oldest X guys but it's not the fault of the "newer" ones (well, Pata is playing there for over 30 years... new... uhmm). So in my opinion the other guys are X too.
And yes, I would like to see a Heath, Pata and Sugizo featuring something with Miyavi or B'z Inaba or someone else and call it X Japan :) Why not? Because we all are X! ;D
fully subscribe... :)
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I read the episode premiered, has anyone heard the track?
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I read the episode premiered, has anyone heard the track?
It didn’t have the intro.
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Damn
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I don’t think this has anythikg to do with high expectations or riding Yoshiki’s rollercoaster or being attached to an idea. We were all very excited to grt a new X Japan song very soon that we were not expecting but turns out, THIS IS NOT X JAPAN, it’s a Yoshiki solo with another singer and he labeled it X Japan. Yoshiki alone is not X Japan, I think Joker and Matsumoto are right about why people are upset and why this is so offensise and wrong, so i’m not going to explain again. Good or bad, this is not X Japan.
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This is not a Solo. It has 2 X members in it. Sugizo and Yoshiki.
And as I said, there were ballads only with Toshi and Yoshiki. Again, two members of X. And some these were released as singles under the brand "X JAPAN"
In this case two members of X (Sugizo and Yoshiki) are doing a feature with another musician, Hyde (Hideto lol) and they (the two musicians from X Japan) are releasing it as "X Japan feat Hyde".
What is your problem? It happened in the past. No one cares. Why is this a problem for you now?
Maybe the problem is this:
Could it be that you do not regard the voice as an instrument but as something absolute? In my opinion, Toshi is "just" a musician of X Japan like everyone else. Just as Hide or Pata have their own special way to play and sound their instrument, so does Toshi. Why is it such a problem for someone else to play Toshi's instrument?
Hey, maybe that's the same with the Marylin Manson song on the album! Have you thought about it?
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Lol wtf
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Regardless of your opinion on the branding Yoshiki is not the only one in this collab. Sugizo is also calling himself X Japan but no one has a problem with that, only Yoshiki. It's hate bias.
It's perfectly understandable to be disappointed about not getting the rest of the band on such a highly publicized song that will be coming out any day now, but it's not fair to conspiracy theorizing against Yoshiki for it and hating the entire situation.
I agree with Fluffy and NB. I'm happy we're getting a new song and hey, it will most likely be performed by the rest of X at X concerts anyway.
I will say again that I believe this is the best marketing move for X Japan. Even if it's not all the members, the song is being used on an international level. Whether it was Yoshiki or Sugizo's idea is debatable since neither have commented on their involvement with the song, but it is a smart promotional tool for the album they're planning to release bc a lot of people will research the name X Japan.
It might not make the fans happy or even the members happy but it's what's best for the band, and in the long run that IS what's best for the band and thus the fans.
It's not a super huge deal when it really comes down to it... a new song... good promo... it's nothing to attack anyone over.
Also, it's having expectations not be met that causes these kind of hard feelings. I think it's been long enough that anyone here really has to learn to exercise the art of letting go of control. X isnt operating in a typical fashion and we know that so... chill? Idk. I wish I could say something to make you all relax and enjoy what we have bc it is what it is and at least we're going to hear something new. X could have just not re-banded and Toshi could still be in HOH and Yoshiki could still be releasing 1 VUK song every few years and only holding concerts in Tokyo sporadically.
Everyone's never going to be happy but I understand why the decision to label Yoshiki and Sugizo X MIGHT HAVE been made and I'm also excited about the song and X's name being on AOT.
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Yoshki is always X Japan. Whenever we have Yoshiki, then we have X Japan. ;D
TRUE DAT!
X'~en~Ciel ;D
Woah be careful if you call it *something*~en~Ciel you have to include at least tetsu or ken or yuki. Hyde is just the singer!!!111 :D
No but seriously why is everyone so angry? The world is not going down tonight and X Japan (or at least some members) are actually releasing stuff. :D You know what? I'm going to buy that single and if I like it I will play it nonstop after the release and noone can stop me. :D :D :D
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While I am still curious how the song will sound ... to be honest ... the recent news i.e. ballad, no Toshi are a huge let down for me and yes, I am disappointed by the news, I was expecting something else.
Of course, at the end it's my fault for getting my hopes up.
What's starting to worry me more and more is the fact, that if the album will be released in the distant future it may include only songs we've already heard.
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While I am still curious how the song will sound ... to be honest ... the recent news i.e. ballad, no Toshi are a huge let down for me and yes, I am disappointed by the news, I was expecting something else.
Of course, at the end it's my fault for getting my hopes up.
What's starting to worry me more and more is the fact, that if the album will be released in the distant future it may include only songs we've already heard.
Itd we'll hear KTS before the album drops even though it's the one I want to hear the most. Rockstar is also debatable. I also wonder whether Yoshiki's still planning on having the short interludes between songs... didn't they range between like, 15/30 seconds up to a minute 30 or something? I think that would be fascinating to hear in a album. It could really alter the mood and abiance of the listening experience. We would definitely never hear those before the album's released.
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True, the interludes we probably wouldn't hear before the album is released, but I don't really consider them as seperate songs/or something I'm looking forward to that much. They may work well when listening the album in its entirety, but as a stand alone song, don't know... + it may take away recording space on the album that could be used for another song. ;)
BTW, band is tracking guitars at the moment, wonder for what song.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BlIm44tAitq/?hl=en&taken-by=yoshikiofficial
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True, the interludes we probably wouldn't hear before the album is released, but I don't really consider them as seperate songs/or something I'm looking forward to that much. They may work well when listening the album in its entirety, but as a stand alone song, don't know... + it may take away recording space on the album that could be used for another song. ;)
BTW, band is tracking guitars at the moment, wonder for what song.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BlIm44tAitq/?hl=en&taken-by=yoshikiofficial
Yay! Pata looks happy ;D Does anyone know what's in that little box on the table?
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BlIpEVnndXX/?hl=en
It's Taiji's birthday today too.
yoshikiofficial: #HappyBirthDay Taiji .
We had some ups & downs, but the time we spent was precious.
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I think Angel may be different on the album. They talked about a solo for it before, maybe it's a more guitar oriented song than we think
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Does anyone know what's in that little box on the table?
Looks like guitar pics (Plektrum)
/nb
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Lol no one is stewing at home, cursimg out loud at Yoshiki. As has been explained time and time again, this is a message bpard dedicated to X so people like to, you know... Voice their opinions I'm the subject
I'm looking forward to hearing the song, it has how it sounds has nothing to do with my thoughts on its controversial labeling and release
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Does anyone know what's in that little box on the table?
Looks like guitar pics (Plektrum)
/nb
Totally looks like a weed box!
hey, someone needed to lighten the mood 8)
I think everyone's brought up very interesting points, especially Fluffy in her latest comment. My initial reaction was to be super bummed about a song marketed as Toshi-free. I don't want my X Toshi-free, just like I don't want my chocolate cocoa-free. But I guess I'll lock up that part of my fan self away for now and wait to hear the song and what the members have to say about it.
As a rock/metal fan who tends to grow attached to the musicians' charisma as well as their music, I have a hard time imagining a band releasing a song under the same name with a different line up. And the vocalist is usually responsible for a huge part of the atmosphere, let's be honest. Would the Guns release a Guns song without Axl? Would Motörhead do it without Lemmy? Would Metallica send Hetfield to his room and record a thing with Bruce Dickinson instead? Probably not. But as some of you have pointed out, Yoshiki is a transgressor who likes to challenge what people think makes a successful band, and more specifically, a successful rock band. I think he might even like to blend the borders of music and fandom scandal a little. Either way, we get a song to listen to and like Kasumi said, if I like it I will listen to it on repeat (I'm sure Toshi won't be too offended), if I don't I'll just listen to something else while I wait for a new X song with my favourite lineup and my favourite singer (in which case Hyde is free to feel terribly offended for all I care).
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I have complex feelings on it. I really am excited. Just a month ago I said It was a total waste there wasnt an X song showcasing Sugizo's violin. Now, there will be one. I just think it is disengenous to call it an X song when it has one original member on it. Toshi is a founder. X was formed by him and Yoshiki over 30 years ago. Regardless of X being " Yoshikis band", Toshis role can never be over exaggerated.
Now, perhaps I am a hypocrite. I did support versions if Guns N Roses where Axl was the sole remaining original member. I accepted that they were fundamentally completely different bands, and continued to enjoy what those lineups did. However, X currently consists of the most authentic lineup possible, hide and Taiji are dead. Sugizo was hide's friend and I totally support his membership, so I am happy to have him. Guns also hated each other, so those lineups were the best I had at the time. X has all of its members. If X had put out the album and we had material, perhaps Id be more excited about this collaboration with Hyde, but this is only going to be the 7th officially released track in 10 years. 2 of those were unplugged versions of songs. We don't have a lot of post reunion material, and considering the large amount of exposure this song will receive, it is natural Id want the entire band featured on it. We also dont have many guitar based tracks, so its also natural some of us may be frusturated with another short piano ballad. It doesnt mean it wont be a good song or I wont be happy to have it, I did want Sugizos violin with Yoshikis piano, after all. Its just a high action show, a cool guitar based rock song would have been exciting, especially because there havent been many
So yes, Yoshiki is the only original member but I fully accept Sugizo. I think this is different than stuff like Love Replica and Crucify My Love because those were pieces of albums. I also think Toshis role is absolutely vital, so I have less trouble calling something like Without You an X song. Ultimately, what matters most is the music. I hope its a song I enjoy and look forward to hearing it
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Without You and other ballads have only Yoshiki and Toshi. And are X songs because they were recorded with X original members. Only. They didn't replace someone who is the most important piece in the band (after Yoshiki, obviousy) with another totally unrelated guy for marketing purposes.
I give up.
I'm waiting for Yoshiki delaying the album for ten more years. Then there will be an "important announcement" which would be a lingerie collection and you guys will still say that "this is a great move to promove X Japan!".
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Without You and other ballads have only Yoshiki and Toshi. And are X songs because they were recorded with X original members. Only. They didn't replace someone who is the most important piece in the band (after Yoshiki, obviousy) with another totally unrelated guy for marketing purposes.
I give up.
This and what axelroseX said is exactly how I feel about the song and why this situation is not the same at all as Without You. No need to explain anymore. I would also feel the same if Toshi recorded a song with another pianist and called it X Japan but in that case many of you wouldn’t be ok with that because Yoshiki isn’t there.
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Was that the important announcement? LOL
Well, I'm not disappointed. Once I was deeply disappointed before, and there is nothing to be disappointed anymore.
It was when I read a Japanese' comment on Japanese thread. Someone commented that X Japan's members other than Yoshiki have no duty or responsibility for X Japan. All rights for X Japan are reserved to Yoshiki. Other members only make a contact whenever there are concerts or events. Reading that, a lot of fantasy about X Japan has broken.
You know, Japanese celebrities often answer "It's a matter of adults" when they are asked something serious and don't want to reveal everything to public. Yoshiki also said "There is a matter of adults" as a explanation of his appearing in Lunatic Festival as a solo. I don't know what's the "matter of adults" but... probably are there some conflicts between him and Toshi?
Actually when Toshi made a weird stage name like "龍玄とし(ryugentoshi)", many Japanese whispered "Toshi is declaring that he will take a different way from Yoshiki". I don't know what Toshi was thinking but it is certain that ryugentoshi is not a very international name. I agree with them in some way. So whenever X freaks complain about "Why Toshi doesn't write in English in his social media even though he speaks decent English?", I say to myself "Because Toshi is not interested in advancing abroad".
And when some X freaks talked about Toshi's not participating in <We Are X> premiere in Europe, I thought in my heart that "Because <We Are X> is Yoshiki's personal project. Why would Toshi participate in promoting the movie?". I don't think language barrier prevents Toshi from going to the premiere.
There is one thing that bums me out about the announcement. I dislike hyde in terms of appearance and voice.
Nevertheless, hopefully they will produce outstanding music.
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I have to say this is what I like about this forum.
We all have different opinions and yet have the same interests. I would find it horrible if we all agreed to only one. <3
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If Yoshiki and Toshi are having issues a song with another singer under the X Japan title would be shameful and insulting. I dont think Yoshiki is that petty. I hope this isnt the case, but it still makes no sense to me why Toshi wouldnt sing this track
Guess I'll wait for announcements regarding X's further activities to really see
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Was that the important announcement? LOL
It was when I read a Japanese' comment on Japanese thread. Someone commented that X Japan's members other than Yoshiki have no duty or responsibility for X Japan. All rights for X Japan are reserved to Yoshiki. Other members only make a contact whenever there are concerts or events. Reading that, a lot of fantasy about X Japan has broken. -
I'm sorry that this disillusioned you. If it helps, lots of bands operate this way. Yoshiki even said in an English interview that back in the day he would hand all the members their parts... "guitar part, bass part."
You know, Japanese celebrities often answer "It's a matter of adults" when they are asked something serious and don't want to reveal everything to public. Yoshiki also said "There is a matter of adults" as a explanation of his appearing in Lunatic Festival as a solo. I don't know what's the "matter of adults" but... probably are there some conflicts between him and Toshi?
In my opinion, it's not fair to jump to conclusions about anyone's relationship based on that statement, especially Yoshiki and Toshi. Toshi is not the only one who wasn't at Lunatic fest... the rest of the band wasn't either. Maybe they just didn't want to do it.
Actually when Toshi made a weird stage name like "龍玄とし(ryugentoshi)", many Japanese whispered "Toshi is declaring that he will take a different way from Yoshiki". I don't know what Toshi was thinking but it is certain that ryugentoshi is not a very international name. I agree with them in some way. So whenever X freaks complain about "Why Toshi doesn't write in English in his social media even though he speaks decent English?", I say to myself "Because Toshi is not interested in advancing abroad".
When did he make that name and how did he publicize it? If it's not an offifcfial name change it could mean a billion things not related to X or Yoshiki. I guess it has the word dragon in it? He might have just been pumping himself up before his solo concerts. I do agree that he doesn't seem interested in international advancement on a personal front. For X, I think he's all for wherever they go. He might just not enjoy promoting abroad.
And when some X freaks talked about Toshi's not participating in <We Are X> premiere in Europe, I thought in my heart that "Because <We Are X> is Yoshiki's personal project. Why would Toshi participate in promoting the movie?". I don't think language barrier prevents Toshi from going to the premiere.
It's important to consider the time line and see whether he had anything personal business wise going on.
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If Yoshiki and Toshi are having issues a song with another singer under the X Japan title would be shameful and insulting. I dont think Yoshiki is that petty. I hope this isnt the case, but it still makes no sense to me why Toshi wouldnt sing this track
Guess I'll wait for announcements regarding X's further activities to really see
I believe that Hyde approached Sugizo or Yoshiki and the other pulled the other in on it. Yoshiki said it's the first song he's had to write for someone other than Toshi's voice. That alone sounds, to me, like it was a proposition made to him.
Yoshiki definitely did not hover in the shadows of his studio hunched over like Golum concocting an X Japan song while whispering, "no Toshi voice," wheeze wheeze, "someone else my precious sheet music, someone eeeelse"
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Yoshiki definitely did not hover in the shadows of his studio hunched over like Golum concocting an X Japan song while whispering, "no Toshi voice," wheeze wheeze, "someone else my precious sheet music, someone eeeelse"
I love this mental image, can I please believe it for a second? :o
Lakeisle brought up some interesting points. Not that we know much about the band's dynamics, but if we want to think about it realistically, of course things can't be all ponies and rainbows when that much money and influence is at stake. X is a moneymaking machine and I bet there's a myriad of contracts, paperwork and other stuff we can't even dream of. When cold hard cash comes into the picture, pure, sweet, selfless friendship falls straight out the window. Of course sometimes people fight, kick, scream and slam the door with a dramatic groan of 'just leave me out of this'. It could or could not be the case, who knows and who cares.
As for their international aspirations, this is a super interesting topic that could deserve a thread of its own: do X really want to take over the world? I honestly think they do, or at least Yoshiki genuinely does. But I have come to observe that Japanese society is seriously the least pro-international thing ever. The music industry in Japan is so huge and insanely profitable, if you're the average white-collar bloke with zero knowledge of the West and your job is to simply manage a label and make sure everyone makes money, you probably don't see the point in wasting time, money and effort just for the sake of leaving your safe ground. Book a Tokyo Dome concert and tickets sell out in hours, you don't even need to promote it. Commit to a concert abroad and you need to find a venue, convince the local industry big cats, spend a shit-ton of time and money on advertising, PR, promotion, local support, etc, and all you end up with is a fraction of the attendance and of your usual turnover. It's a lot of work for very little material and emotional compensation.
Think about how many sucessful Jap bands akin to X have tried to make it out of their own soft and comfortable four walls? Not many. Most don't even put their stuff up on Spotify and iTunes. In many cases, you can't even buy their records with a foreign address, join their fanclub or buy tickets to go see them in Japan - you need a nice friend over there willing to be your proxy. All things considered, what we get from X is pretty much state-of-the-art Japanese openness. Why does Toshi not write in English on social media, if he obviously can speak it? Probably because his narrow-minded PR folks who manage his online presence for him don't see the point of doing things otherwise. What does the rest of the band think about becoming model world citizens? They probably think it's a cool story, bro, but if The System keeps telling them it's better to stay home in their bunny slippers, they might end up believing it.
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As for their international aspirations, this is a super interesting topic that could deserve a thread of its own: do X really want to take over the world? I honestly think they do, or at least Yoshiki genuinely does. But I have come to observe that Japanese society is seriously the least pro-international thing ever. The music industry in Japan is so huge and insanely profitable, if you're the average white-collar bloke with zero knowledge of the West and your job is to simply manage a label and make sure everyone makes money, you probably don't see the point in wasting time, money and effort just for the sake of leaving your safe ground. Book a Tokyo Dome concert and tickets sell out in hours, you don't even need to promote it. Commit to a concert abroad and you need to find a venue, convince the local industry big cats, spend a shit-ton of time and money on advertising, PR, promotion, local support, etc, and all you end up with is a fraction of the attendance and of your usual turnover. It's a lot of work for very little material and emotional compensation.
Think about how many sucessful Jap bands akin to X have tried to make it out of their own soft and comfortable four walls? Not many. Most don't even put their stuff up on Spotify and iTunes. In many cases, you can't even buy their records with a foreign address, join their fanclub or buy tickets to go see them in Japan - you need a nice friend over there willing to be your proxy. All things considered, what we get from X is pretty much state-of-the-art Japanese openness. Why does Toshi not write in English on social media, if he obviously can speak it? Probably because his narrow-minded PR folks who manage his online presence for him don't see the point of doing things otherwise. What does the rest of the band think about becoming model world citizens? They probably think it's a cool story, bro, but if The System keeps telling them it's better to stay home in their bunny slippers, they might end up believing it.
THIS! Exactly this. You know I have always wondered when I started listening to J-POP why none of these uber-sucessful artist ever do something like a world tour or why it is so f***** hard to buy a CD of them even though every little kid in Japan knows their name. I was always surprised thinking "Hey they are so damn popular in Japan and actually have quite some oversea fans gained through their enormous image/name. Why don't they do anything at all for these foreign fans? Why do they not want my money?" But really... if you are popular in Japan which has a really big music industry... you really don't need the rest of the world to live a comfortable life. You have to love your international fans a lot to pay that much attention to them. ^^° Because... they really don't need us. :(
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Yoshiki definitely did not hover in the shadows of his studio hunched over like Golum concocting an X Japan song while whispering, "no Toshi voice," wheeze wheeze, "someone else my precious sheet music, someone eeeelse"
I love this mental image, can I please believe it for a second? :o
;D it made me cackle just writing it so if it makes you crack up for a moment please do lol. It's just so ridiculous that I couldn't stop myself lol
I think Fluffy and Matsumoto made great points and I'm surprised I hadn't considered them before. Japan is the No.1 music economy in the world follow by China and then the United States. X Japan gains nothing financially from going global unles they hit the jackpot. They gain financially from staying in Japan only. It definitely makes sense why Toshi's PR is never pushed towards an English audience.
But if you notice both Yoshiki and Sugizo and they're "spread" over the world (Sugizo's side projects for example, Yoshiki living in LA and making Violet UK) they personally position themselves to use English on their social media.
I'm not trying to make this convo a Yoshiki fest or anything, but I really do respect him for following his dream despite the adversities he's facing not only from the world, but, as Matsumoto and fluffy pointed out, from his own home as well.
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As for their international aspirations, this is a super interesting topic that could deserve a thread of its own: do X really want to take over the world? I honestly think they do, or at least Yoshiki genuinely does. But I have come to observe that Japanese society is seriously the least pro-international thing ever. The music industry in Japan is so huge and insanely profitable, if you're the average white-collar bloke with zero knowledge of the West and your job is to simply manage a label and make sure everyone makes money, you probably don't see the point in wasting time, money and effort just for the sake of leaving your safe ground. Book a Tokyo Dome concert and tickets sell out in hours, you don't even need to promote it. Commit to a concert abroad and you need to find a venue, convince the local industry big cats, spend a shit-ton of time and money on advertising, PR, promotion, local support, etc, and all you end up with is a fraction of the attendance and of your usual turnover. It's a lot of work for very little material and emotional compensation.
Think about how many sucessful Jap bands akin to X have tried to make it out of their own soft and comfortable four walls? Not many. Most don't even put their stuff up on Spotify and iTunes. In many cases, you can't even buy their records with a foreign address, join their fanclub or buy tickets to go see them in Japan - you need a nice friend over there willing to be your proxy. All things considered, what we get from X is pretty much state-of-the-art Japanese openness. Why does Toshi not write in English on social media, if he obviously can speak it? Probably because his narrow-minded PR folks who manage his online presence for him don't see the point of doing things otherwise. What does the rest of the band think about becoming model world citizens? They probably think it's a cool story, bro, but if The System keeps telling them it's better to stay home in their bunny slippers, they might end up believing it.
THIS! Exactly this. You know I have always wondered when I started listening to J-POP why none of these uber-sucessful artist ever do something like a world tour or why it is so f***** hard to buy a CD of them even though every little kid in Japan knows their name. I was always surprised thinking "Hey they are so damn popular in Japan and actually have quite some oversea fans gained through their enormous image/name. Why don't they do anything at all for these foreign fans? Why do they not want my money?" But really... if you are popular in Japan which has a really big music industry... you really don't need the rest of the world to live a comfortable life. You have to love your international fans a lot to pay that much attention to them. ^^° Because... they really don't need us. :(
That was really interesting to read, it can explains a little bit why the whole situation is what it is. Thanks.
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For those of you interested, I know a Japanese/English blogger who writes extremely interesting articles on why super-successful Japanese bands don't seem to give a rat's ass about going international - spoiler alert: it has nothing to do with the band being a bunch of lowkey xenophobic and lazy old guys. Her blog is about Buck-Tick, another band I like, but it's funny how their fans face the exact same issues and ask themselves the exact same questions. Here's my favourite opinion article by her on this topic: On Xenohopbia, Fangirls, and Japanese White-Collar Cluelessness (https://blog-tick.blogspot.com/2018/07/on-xenohopbia-fangirls-and-japanese.html)
(and since you're going on a trip to Mod land on an express train from X land, read her really spot-on analysis of the crazy Jap fan phenomenon (https://sites.google.com/site/lyricsyndrome/articles/features/the-fangirl-phenomenon), it's totally worth it!)
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I'm sorry that this disillusioned you. If it helps, lots of bands operate this way. Yoshiki even said in an English interview that back in the day he would hand all the members their parts... "guitar part, bass part."
That's why X Japan is no longer seen as a band after Taiji and Hide have left. (Of course, this is my personal opinion)
According to Yoshiki, he writes all the parts - even guitar parts and bass parts on his musical score and hands it out to each member. It brings out a question to me "Then why are they a band?".
In my opinion, it's not fair to jump to conclusions about anyone's relationship based on that statement, especially Yoshiki and Toshi. Toshi is not the only one who wasn't at Lunatic fest... the rest of the band wasn't either. Maybe they just didn't want to do it.
I don't think I jumped to conclusions. I just referred to the greatest possibility. From what I've read on Japanese sites, Toshi arranged a fan meeting on the day of Lunatic Festival(or the previous day. I don't remember exactly). There is no reason that Pata or Heath wouldn't want to participate in Lunatic Festival. At first, some people doubted whether heath was the cause of the conflict with yoshiki, because he had some trouble in the past, but this case is different. Heath has no source of income other than X Japan and said that he loves live concerts.
When did he make that name and how did he publicize it?
http://www.x-freaks.com/forum/index.php?topic=7431.0
Early this year. Of course, what people are talking about the name are just speculations.
It's important to consider the time line and see whether he had anything personal business wise going on.
Do you believe Toshi did not attend the premiere because of another schedule?
Japan is the No.1 music economy in the world follow by China and then the United States. X Japan gains nothing financially from going global unles they hit the jackpot. They gain financially from staying in Japan only. It definitely makes sense why Toshi's PR is never pushed towards an English audience.
FYI, Chinese music market is the 10th in the world and one tenth of the size of Japanese market.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_music_industry_market_share_data
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That's why X Japan is no longer seen as a band after Taiji and Hide have left. (Of course, this is my personal opinion)
According to Yoshiki, he writes all the parts - even guitar parts and bass parts on his musical score and hands it out to each member. It brings out a question to me "Then why are they a band?".
That's how they were operating as a band before hide and Taiji left though. During The Last Live when The Last Song was being written, hide approached Yoshiki to let him write the guitar part for The Last Song.
It's important to consider the time line and see whether he had anything personal business wise going on.
Do you believe Toshi did not attend the premiere because of another schedule?
I don't know but it could be the case since he's also a solo artist and seems to have an interest in other business ventures (food/desserts)
FYI, Chinese music market is the 10th in the world and one tenth of the size of Japanese market.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_music_industry_market_share_data
My bad, thank you for the correction. I don't know why I thought differently.
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I think we should stop speculating why they didn't participate in the festival and whose decision it was. This is a pointless excersice, to blindly blame Yoshiki or Toshi or whoever else, without knowing the behind-the-scenes works. There can be a gazillion reasons why.
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As for the new song, initially i was disappointed and I voiced it on discord too. But I gave it some time, calmed down and tried to view it from other angles. I think I agree with what fluffy said before. It's their decision and there are too many personal possibilites of 'what X is', to say definitely that marketing a Yoshiki+Sugizo collab with hyde as 'X Japan' is wrong. I want Toshi on vocals, heck, I dislike hyde's way of singing. His previous X song renditions were horrendous. Without You also only has two members. Wriggle has two members and none of them are founding members of te band. ;) I can live with one song without Toshi's voice. As long as he is not replaced as the lead singer.
And even then, if ever, he would leave X japan, would we all leave the fandom? Did Queen fans leave the band when Freddy died? Can they live with other singers touring with the band? http://diffuser.fm/replaced-lead-singers/ 30 bands that replaced their lead singers. They did still go on and their fans are still there (maybe not all of them, but hey, personal preferences).
Most bands have a gazillion lineup changes all the time. especially VK bands, sometimes you cannot even follow who is in which band at the time, they change bands every 2 years or so :) Somehow their fans still survive.
I'd be EXTREMELY sad if Toshi ever left X again. But probably I would survive. Just like 99% of fans survived hide's death and Taiji's departure, too. This is just one single song with an unusual lineup. I can live with that. :)
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Id definitely stop caring completely if Toshi left. Massive lineup changes because of disagreement when bands are this old and big are almost always lame. I don't think hed ever leave though , so no worries
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As for the new song, initially i was disappointed and I voiced it on discord too. But I gave it some time, calmed down and tried to view it from other angles. I think I agree with what fluffy said before. It's their decision and there are too many personal possibilites of 'what X is', to say definitely that marketing a Yoshiki+Sugizo collab with hyde as 'X Japan' is wrong. I want Toshi on vocals, heck, I dislike hyde's way of singing. His previous X song renditions were horrendous. Without You also only has two members. Wriggle has two members and none of them are founding members of te band. ;) I can live with one song without Toshi's voice. As long as he is not replaced as the lead singer.
And even then, if ever, he would leave X japan, would we all leave the fandom? Did Queen fans leave the band when Freddy died? Can they live with other singers touring with the band? http://diffuser.fm/replaced-lead-singers/ 30 bands that replaced their lead singers. They did still go on and their fans are still there (maybe not all of them, but hey, personal preferences).
Most bands have a gazillion lineup changes all the time. especially VK bands, sometimes you cannot even follow who is in which band at the time, they change bands every 2 years or so :) Somehow their fans still survive.
I'd be EXTREMELY sad if Toshi ever left X again. But probably I would survive. Just like 99% of fans survived hide's death and Taiji's departure, too. This is just one single song with an unusual lineup. I can live with that. :)
As far as Queen fans, Freddie's death and how the fans feel now... for the most part, the die hard Queen fans are up in arms about anyone singing Queen songs with Brian and Roger or with Brian and Roger calling the band Queen or Queen + (insert any other singer's name, here) and I can honestly say, I have argued with many, many of them. They are vehemently against it, period, and refuse to go to a concert or even watch a youtube video with any other collaboration that is called Queen. They would rather Roger and Brian go it alone and perform as Queen rather than to have to listen to them play with anyone else and that also includes John Deacon, the bass player, who is still alive and just refuses to perform.
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pt_93 asked me to post this and I agreed to do so. She said "everyone on twitter was talking about it, so I asked my Japanese friend that watched the stream on twitter." "Today in Toshi Channel he talked about Red Swan."
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/915/43413301882_66253f6ffa.jpg)
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I've read that an the chat.
Nothing bad about pt_93. Don't get me wrong here. But... I can't really believe that this is true.
I mean, if Yoshiki really does this alone and Toshi is sad about it, why would Toshi say it? It could get Toshi in a lot of trouble if he said this to the fans. I mean, think about it. It's like a rose war for a band if someone said loudly that he is feeling bad about the decisions of the band leader....
@pt_93
Please can you give me a link to the live stream? It's not I did not believe you, it's more about "Fuck, X Japan is destroying itself again." when it is true what you've said.
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My honest feeling is that that is disappointing to hear. I feel sorry for Toshi and the rest of the band.
However, my other honest feeling is that if that is Yoshiki's decision, it is Yoshiki's decision.
Toshi is my favorite singer of all time. X Japan needs Toshi. As a ballad, I guess bass and guitar weren't necessarily parts of the song anyway but it seems I was wrong about how the song was approached and who went to who to be featured in the song for AOT S3. I can't say I understand why the decision was made the way it was but it was made.
Another honest feeling... I'm just over the drama. I'm exhausted by it. I know there will be a war now over X Japan/Toshi/Yoshiki/Pata/Heath loyalists but I hope we can all keep it clean and try not to hate the members or EACH OTHER when expressing our opinions, feelings, and points of view.
I love you all lol, and this place. I know this news will upset many of you. We don't need to bring hurt/anger/violence off the screens into each other's homes to break coffee mugs over though so please address things civilly going forward. I do stand by Yoshiki and will support him no matter what... I've been through it all so to speak, so I'm ready to say that confidently, I know which side I "belong" to. I know that might not be popular here but it is what it is.
Edit: I, too, would like a link to the stream. It's not that I don't believe it. ToshI has found his own voice and that's fine. But I would like to see another Japanese speaker's translation of it... purely because of the topic.
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I really want someone from here, lakeisle or sasasama to watch that part and tell what they think. I have previously seen twitter user fans abuse and tweak information to their liking. I also believe that Toshi would never say out loud that he is disappointed in Yoshiki's decision. That would be very unprofessional and I think Toshi is pro enough to know what he can and cannot say on social media and live broadcast.
+ I think if Toshi really said that, Japanese media would immediately create a scandal about it. "Toshi dissatisfied with Yoshiki" etc headlines would be flooding. Just like when they were claiming that Toshi didn't go to Lunatic fest because he asked too much money. He had to refute it in live broadcast.
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I really want someone from here, lakeisle or sasasama to watch that part and tell what they think. I have previously seen twitter user fans abuse and tweak information to their liking. I also believe that Toshi would never say out loud that he is disappointed in Yoshiki's decision. That would be very unprofessional and I think Toshi is pro enough to know what he can and cannot say on social media and live broadcast.
+ I think if Toshi really said that, Japanese media would immediately create a scandal about it. "Toshi dissatisfied with Yoshiki" etc headlines would be flooding. Just like when they were claiming that Toshi didn't go to Lunatic fest because he asked too much money. He had to refute it in live broadcast.
Jeez the media did that? Awful. And good point. I think we need numerous sources on this one tbh.
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Yellow press picks up on all these things. They create articles from a single sentence taken out of context, too. I still believe that Toshi wouldn't have publicaly said he was disappointed because of Yoshiki's decision. He probably apologised because that's a Japanese way, your fans are sad so what can you do? Apologise and tell them that you are sorry they are sad. But to say that he is disappointed with Yoshiki's decision? That would make headlines in Japan...
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Why would my friend lie? Everyone else was saying Toshi said that. So I asked her what he actually said. I don’t see how that is so unprofessional, he kept being askes about fans and he said tha his honest feelings is that he was disappointed about Yoshiki’s decision to release the song as X Japan.’ It’s impossible with all of you, I just KNEW you would ask for a video. Besides, YOU are making up stuff without watching the video either, you want to believe that’s what happened but my friend quoted him, why would she make that up? Everyone else was saying the same, she just confirmed it for me. I hope I can find a video so all of you can shut up but even then you will find something else to say.
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IF this is true than fuck Yoshiki, what a prick
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I hope I can find a video so all of you can shut up but even then you will find something else to say.
Please calm down a bit here :)
We just questioning something so we can be absolutely sure. Because this is a big deal.
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http://s.webry.info/sp/blueverse.at.webry.info/201807/article_19.html
This is what I found. This person says, he/she went to 2 of Yoshiki's dinner shows (second and third night), and she quoted him. He quoted Toshi as well, about what he said on Toshi channel.
「個人的には残念な気持ちはありますけれども
"Personally, I feel dissapointed"
「YOSHIKIが選んだ人」「YOSHIKIが決めること」
ということでした．
"Yoshiki choose that person(Hyde). It was Yoshiki's decision."
She also said, what Yoshiki said on his dinner show. He said "I was questioning myself a lot when X Japan broke up. I didn't know what went wrong. I took resposibility of their lives as a leader, and told them to "follow me". They followed me, but something went wrong. I hope, it's still not too late (to fix things)".
That's all I could find.
Edit: to avoid misunderstandings, the "something went wrong" part is for the past events. Something went wrong in the past so they broke up. And he was wondering what did he do wrong.
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Thank you, sasasama. That pretty well says it all and mirrors what pt_93's friend said. In fact, it seems a bit worse! :o !
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Unbelievable
This song is not X Japan
Fuck Yoshiki
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http://s.webry.info/sp/blueverse.at.webry.info/201807/article_19.html
This is what I found. This person says, he/she went to 2 of Yoshiki's dinner shows (second and third night), and she quoted him. He quoted Toshi as well, about what he said on Toshi channel.
「個人的には残念な気持ちはありますけれども
"Personally, I feel dissapointed"
「YOSHIKIが選んだ人」「YOSHIKIが決めること」
ということでした．
"Yoshiki choose that person(Hyde). It was Yoshiki's decision."
She also said, what Yoshiki said on his dinner show. He said "I was questioning myself a lot when X Japan broke up. I didn't know what went wrong. I took resposibility of their lives as a leader, and told them to "follow me". They followed me, but something went wrong. I hope, it's still not too late (to fix things)".
That's all I could find.
Edit: to avoid misunderstandings, the "something went wrong" part is for the past events. Something went wrong in the past so they broke up. And he was wondering what did he do wrong.
Thank you. That's still a third person quoting and not the stream itself... I hope someone will put the Toshi channel stream on youtube. Sentences taken out of context and without actually seeing the person saying it can be dangerous.
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And they can be very true as well. I just took a look at the X Japan page on Facebook and people are in an uproar. Not a pretty sight for sure.
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They should kick Yoshiki out and get a new drummer! Lol
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http://s.webry.info/sp/blueverse.at.webry.info/201807/article_19.html
This is what I found. This person says, he/she went to 2 of Yoshiki's dinner shows (second and third night), and she quoted him. He quoted Toshi as well, about what he said on Toshi channel.
「個人的には残念な気持ちはありますけれども
"Personally, I feel dissapointed"
「YOSHIKIが選んだ人」「YOSHIKIが決めること」
ということでした．
"Yoshiki choose that person(Hyde). It was Yoshiki's decision."
She also said, what Yoshiki said on his dinner show. He said "I was questioning myself a lot when X Japan broke up. I didn't know what went wrong. I took resposibility of their lives as a leader, and told them to "follow me". They followed me, but something went wrong. I hope, it's still not too late (to fix things)".
That's all I could find.
Edit: to avoid misunderstandings, the "something went wrong" part is for the past events. Something went wrong in the past so they broke up. And he was wondering what did he do wrong.
Thank you. That's still a third person quoting and not the stream itself... I hope someone will put the Toshi channel stream on youtube. Sentences taken out of context and without actually seeing the person saying it can be dangerous.
If you can find anything feel free to share. I tried, but nothing came up. Unfortunately we can't subscribe to Toshi's channel without a Japanese credit card. :/
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They should kick Yoshiki out and get a new drummer! Lol
Masayuki Suzuki? ^^
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You obviously cant have X Japan without Yoshiki, but it sucks so bad how hard he tries to destroy the legacy
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I don't think he consciously does that, axlroseX. For this guy, X is his life. Look at his VUK period, he had unwashed hair, and looked like a hobo most of the time... and he always looked sad and detached af. I doubt he would consciously and knowingly try to destroy the one thing that legitimately keeps him alive.
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I don't think he consciously does that, axlroseX. For this guy, X is his life. Look at his VUK period, he had unwashed hair, and looked like a hobo most of the time... and he always looked sad and detached af. I doubt he would consciously and knowingly try to destroy the one thing that legitimately keeps him alive.
I know he isnt sabotaging the band on purpose... I tried to look past all the delays and broken promises. I love Yoshiki and X, I really do. I wanted to start just being a fan again, but this is so insulting. It is insulting to us, it is insulting to the other members, and it is especially insulting to Toshi. It just is, and there just isnt a way to positively rationalize it. It's a dissapointing and damaging decision. It will damage the fanbase's opinions, and it will damage Toshi's place and opinions in the band. It basically is an unintentional message to everyone in the band- "you are replaceable or expendable... I AM X Japan..." X might be Yoshiki's band and he might write 90% of the music, but those other guys are members too and Toshi ESPECIALLY deserves respect.
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I don't think he consciously does that, axlroseX. For this guy, X is his life. Look at his VUK period, he had unwashed hair, and looked like a hobo most of the time... and he always looked sad and detached af. I doubt he would consciously and knowingly try to destroy the one thing that legitimately keeps him alive.
I know he isnt sabotaging the band on purpose... I tried to look past all the delays and broken promises. I love Yoshiki and X, I really do. I wanted to start just being a fan again, but this is so insulting. It is insulting to us, it is insulting to the other members, and it is especially insulting to Toshi. It just is, and there just isnt a way to positively rationalize it. It's a dissapointing and damaging decision. It will damage the fanbase's opinions, and it will damage Toshi's place and opinions in the band. It basically is an unintentional message to everyone in the band- "you are replaceable or expendable... I AM X Japan..." X might be Yoshiki's band and he might write 90% of the music, but those other guys are members too and Toshi ESPECIALLY deserves respect.
From the Twitter quotes I read, it seems he said "he understands this is Yoshiki's side project". But then I don't understand why he calls it X Japan. Interesting.
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From the Twitter quotes I read, it seems he said "he understands this is Yoshiki's side project". But then I don't understand why he calls it X Japan. Interesting.
Maybe after what he said before, he feels he better say something like this?
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Someone on a GNR board told me Yoshiki wont work with Toshi because Toshi wants more money... I did not prompt the conversation so this person doesnt seen like they would make it up
REALLY hoping this is untrue, waiting for more info...
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Someone on a GNR board told me Yoshiki wont work with Toshi because Toshi wants more money... I did not prompt the conversation so this person doesnt seen like they would make it up
REALLY hoping this is untrue, waiting for more info...
A japanese tabloid said that this was the reason why X Japan didn’t play Lunatic Fest, and Toshi said on Toshi Channel that this wasn’t true and that X Japan was schedule to play but “the promoters and X Japan side” (whatever that means) decided they wouldnt appear as a band. He also sued the tabloid for spreading fake rumors, he was VERY upset in that Toshi Channel, he even used bad words to describe them.
Also, X Japan is scheduled to appear on the Dream Festival in August or September. So...
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That makes me feel a little better. Another rift in between Yoshiki and Toshi would be horrible
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The same article said he wanted more money because h has been in many TV shows lately blabla and Toshi said he just likes making fun of himself because he likes making people laugh and he sees nothing wrong with that. He was very upset. There are actual videos of this on instagram, since you all like videos.
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X did "make it" in the west. I'm a 26 year old from Michigan who has loved this band for more than a decade. There are thousands of fans like me all over the world. They wont ever headline American arenas or have a single top the charts, but who cares? They gained thpusamds of diehard fans instead of being a flash in the pan. That is making it, and I hope Yoshiki realizes that.
Where there is smoke, there is fire. Its clear that SOMETHING is amiss internally between Yoshiki and Toshi. The Lunatic festival performance, the photo in the studio with everyone but Toshi, the tabloid rumors, and now this new "X Japan" (but not really) song fiasco. I just hope things get back on track and they put out the stupid album just to get it off their backs.
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X did "make it" in the west. I'm a 26 year old from Michigan who has loved this band for more than a decade. There are thousands of fans like me all over the world. They wont ever headline American arenas or have a single top the charts, but who cares? They gained thpusamds of diehard fans instead of being a flash in the pan. That is making it, and I hope Yoshiki realizes that.
Where there is smoke, there is fire. Its clear that SOMETHING is amiss internally between Yoshiki and Toshi. The Lunatic festival performance, the photo in the studio with everyone but Toshi, the tabloid rumors, and now this new "X Japan" (but not really) song fiasco. I just hope things get back on track and they put out the stupid album just to get it off their backs.
I believe X has made it too but also kind of not... yes but no. They have fans all over but not everyone (most people) knows them. Yoshiki wants X to explode and honestly, I think that would be awesome too.
1. The photo of X recording was for guitar/bass. Toshi had no reason to be there. Recording is mmindnumbingly boring when you have nothing to do so Of course he would skip that.
2. Japanese tabloids are the worst! Toshi himself even addressed those reports as false and was really upset with them so why say it is something that it isn't when the member himself has set it straight for us...?
3. It's not a fiasco. The rest of the band has been recording and Toshi spoke honestly about his feelings. X Japan is getting their own full-band version of it, too.
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3. It's not a fiasco. The rest of the band has been recording and Toshi spoke honestly about his feelings. X Japan is getting their own full-band version of it, too.
It's a fiasco as they tought it would be amazing and most fans are disappointed (and even annoyed, as I am). Just follow X, Toshi and Yoshiki social media. There is a lot of angry fans.
And nobody said that there will be a full band version of this song. Yoshiki posted a photo saying "recording" but could be an old photo, or any other song, as he said that Rockstar, for example, isn't finished yet.
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I think the translation is subtly different in nuance.
<残念> is used as a meaning of "That's too bad", "That's a shame", "That's unfortunate".
A : The match was postponed due to the heavy rain.
B : That's too bad. (残念)
That's why "Personally, I feel disappointed" seems to be slightly exaggerated. I'm not an English speaker and not able to explain well, but it's different anyway. And what is behind the sentence is more important. Because けれども means that something should be added after it due to the nature of Japanese sentence structure. And the following sentence is the key.
Sentences taken out of context and without actually seeing the person saying it can be dangerous.
This. I agree. I'm not defending Yoshiki tho. TBH, they don't look like a band to me, Yoshiki is a boss, other members are employees, Yoshiki orders, other members obey, that's what I felt about the band many times. So it is not strange that this happened.
I think I'm becoming insensitive to Yoshiki's stimulation little by little.
And thank you for the information. I didn't know Toshi sued the tabloid. Actually I do not lurk Japanese fan threads anymore. There are too many rumors and it's unhealthy. I'm glad that
the conflict between Yoshiki and Toshi is groundless.
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I think the translation is subtly different in nuance.
<残念> is used as a meaning of "That's too bad", "That's a shame", "That's unfortunate".
A : The match was postponed due to the heavy rain.
B : That's too bad. (残念)
That's why "Personally, I feel disappointed" seems to be slightly exaggerated. I'm not an English speaker and not able to explain well, but it's different anyway. And what is behind the sentence is more important. Because けれども means that something should be added after it due to the nature of Japanese sentence structure. And the following sentence is the key.
Sentences taken out of context and without actually seeing the person saying it can be dangerous.
This. I agree. I'm not defending Yoshiki tho. TBH, they don't look like a band to me, Yoshiki is a boss, other members are employees, Yoshiki orders, other members obey, that's what I felt about the band many times. So it is not strange that this happened.
I think I'm becoming insensitive to Yoshiki's stimulation little by little.
And thank you for the information. I didn't know Toshi sued the tabloid. Actually I do not lurk Japanese fan threads anymore. There are too many rumors and it's unhealthy. I'm glad that
the conflict between Yoshiki and Toshi is groundless.
But isn't they use "残念" when they wanna express their disappointmen? It's totally an innocent question because maybe I don't feel the "real meaning" of the word. Let's translate it to "It's too bad". Isn't it still means that he's not happy about it? I'm not stating anything because we sill don't have the footage, I'm just asking about this sentence because it's interesting.
Edit: for example in hungarian i would translate it, "olyan kár". Teemeah can help me withw those one, haha. And "olyan kár", is totally for something to express disappointmen. I don't know...
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I think the translation is subtly different in nuance.
<残念> is used as a meaning of "That's too bad", "That's a shame", "That's unfortunate".
A : The match was postponed due to the heavy rain.
B : That's too bad. (残念)
That's why "Personally, I feel disappointed" seems to be slightly exaggerated. I'm not an English speaker and not able to explain well, but it's different anyway. And what is behind the sentence is more important. Because けれども means that something should be added after it due to the nature of Japanese sentence structure. And the following sentence is the key.
Sentences taken out of context and without actually seeing the person saying it can be dangerous.
This. I agree. I'm not defending Yoshiki tho. TBH, they don't look like a band to me, Yoshiki is a boss, other members are employees, Yoshiki orders, other members obey, that's what I felt about the band many times. So it is not strange that this happened.
I think I'm becoming insensitive to Yoshiki's stimulation little by little.
And thank you for the information. I didn't know Toshi sued the tabloid. Actually I do not lurk Japanese fan threads anymore. There are too many rumors and it's unhealthy. I'm glad that
the conflict between Yoshiki and Toshi is groundless.
But isn't they use "残念" when they wanna express their disappointmen? It's totally an innocent question because maybe I don't feel the "real meaning" of the word. Let's translate it to "It's too bad". Isn't it still means that he's not happy about it? I'm not stating anything because we sill don't have the footage, I'm just asking about this sentence because it's interesting.
Edit: for example in hungarian i would translate it, "olyan kár". Teemeah can help me withw those one, haha. And "olyan kár", is totally for something to express disappointmen. I don't know...
You can express disappointment but "olyan kár" which roughly translates to "so unfortunate [that this happened]" or "it's a pity" doesn't mean you "feel personally disappointed". The latter is a very strong expression. It is also important what he applies this to: is is unfortunate that hyde sings in the song? is it unfortunate that yoshiki made such a decision alone? or is it unfortunate that he cannot help the fans' anger and disappointment? Reading the above interpretations, I really get the feeling that we should not hype ourselves up over these things because translating Japanese is very difficult, especially for expressions of emotion. 3 translators, 3 different interpretations of the level of emotion in the same sentence... :)
Edit: maybe this sentence will clear up what I mean: "It's a pity you didn't come to the party, it was so good" -- it doesn't mean "I am personally disappointed you didn't come to the party".
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GUYS WE FOUND THE FOOTAGE.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BlVxJFXnblH/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1b1isny4tf92a
He said, he knows a lot of people are worried about this Hyde thing. He said, he can't tell the exact reasons, but Yoshiki choose him. He said, from the very beginning, he decides everything about X Japan. He said to be honest, he felt a little bit bummed about it, but this is Yoshiki's project, and that's that. He also said, he's sorry he couldn't give a straightforward answer. That's it guys. He doesn't seem too sad, thankfully.
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awwww, thank you! <3
but it's a bit sad, isn't it? He sees X Japan as a Yoshiki only project. I mean, yes, he is the bandleader, but i thought Toshi would see himself as part of the band. It honestly sounds like he's only an employee...
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awwww, thank you! <3
but it's a bit sad, isn't it? He sees X Japan as a Yoshiki only project. I mean, yes, he is the bandleader, but i thought Toshi would see himself as part of the band. It honestly sounds like he's only an employee...
No! He doesn't see X Japan as Yoshiki's project. He meant "Red Swan" is his project. He only said he decides everything about the band from the very start and that's it.
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Ah, thanks for clearing that up =)
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yeah, it's more clear now, thank you sasasama. and good to see the footage. He doesn't seem too bothered by it. and he is right, Yoshiki has always made decisions for the band (going for a US album was also his idea back then, as was recording in LA, he even went as far as personally dropping demos to stores back in the indie days. :) )
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GUYS WE FOUND THE FOOTAGE.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BlVxJFXnblH/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1b1isny4tf92a
He said, he knows a lot of people are worried about this Hyde thing. He said, he can't tell the exact reasons, but Yoshiki choose him. He said, from the very beginning, he decides everything about X Japan. He said to be honest, he felt a little bit bummed about it, but this is Yoshiki's project, and that's that. He also said, he's sorry he couldn't give a straightforward answer. That's it guys. He doesn't seem too sad, thankfully.
Thank you, that's great to hear.
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TBH, they don't look like a band to me, Yoshiki is a boss, other members are employees, Yoshiki orders, other members obey, that's what I felt about the band many times.
It looks like this since the reunion. For someone who knew X when they were still a band, and not Yoshiki's ego-boost-tool, each time he does stuff like this is a new disappointment.
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Apparently, Yoshiki is making an announcement regarding what is going down tomorrow.
I think it is clear something is wrong. Toshi is clearly disappointed, so no, that video was not a good thing
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Edit: maybe this sentence will clear up what I mean: "It's a pity you didn't come to the party, it was so good" -- it doesn't mean "I am personally disappointed you didn't come to the party".
Thank you for clearing it up. You are perfectly right, "It's a pity" seems to be the closest sentence for 残念. "I feel disappointed" implies that somebody did something wrong, but the word 残念 is not necessarily used like that.
Nevertheless, watching the video sasasama linked, it is obvious that Toshi is disappointed and upset even though he is smiling and saying "Don't worry".
Thank you for the link, sasasama. Now I can see how Toshi used the word as a way of expressing his disappointment.
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GUYS WE FOUND THE FOOTAGE.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BlVxJFXnblH/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1b1isny4tf92a
He said, he knows a lot of people are worried about this Hyde thing. He said, he can't tell the exact reasons, but Yoshiki choose him. He said, from the very beginning, he decides everything about X Japan. He said to be honest, he felt a little bit bummed about it, but this is Yoshiki's project, and that's that. He also said, he's sorry he couldn't give a straightforward answer. That's it guys. He doesn't seem too sad, thankfully.
Thank you, that's great to hear.
I don't understand why that is a great thing. He said he was bummed, he doesn't seem too sad, but clearly not happy. And trying to solve everything with showing his new cute t-shirt like... As lakeisle said, there's real disappointment behind that smile, and he just accepted what happened because what he can do when "Yoshiki is the person who decides everything for decades".
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What time is this announcement supposed to be? I want to hear it ASAP but not sure if I will be around or where the announcement will be made. If possible, I will stay up to hear it if it's not too late for me.
Whose instagram account is the video on? I think it better be downloaded ASAP, also. Someone may request that it be pulled or deleted. I'm going to copy it as I can't seem to just download it.
To me, Toshi sounds angry. His voice sounds pretty forceful to me.
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TBH, they don't look like a band to me, Yoshiki is a boss, other members are employees, Yoshiki orders, other members obey, that's what I felt about the band many times.
It looks like this since the reunion. For someone who knew X when they were still a band, and not Yoshiki's ego-boost-tool, each time he does stuff like this is a new disappointment.
I think it's since Dahlia.
I've read (in his book) that he was unhappy with hide saying he should choose everything by his own. And since hide died Yoshiki (that is what Y said) has to do all the promotion/interview stuff. For me it sounded like he does not like it at all.
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What the heck does this mean?!? I realize Microsoft translated it but decision???
YOSHIKI CHANNEL
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【明日7月20日(金)19時〜生放送決定】独占 #YOSHIKI ロングインタビュー 〜#YOSHIKI が語る自身の現在と未来〜 @YoshikiOfficial http://ch.nicovideo.jp/yoshikiofficial/blomaga/ar1626055 …
Translated from Japanese by Microsoft
[Tomorrow, July 20 (Fri) 19:00 ~ Live decision] Exclusive http://ch.nicovideo.jp/yoshikiofficial/blomaga/ar1626055 … long interview ~ #YOSHIKI talk about their present and future @YoshikiOfficial #ttps://t.co/3I7V8wFQ27
YOSHIKI CHANNEL
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【明日7月20日(金)19時〜生放送決定】独占 #YOSHIKI ロングインタビュー 〜#YOSHIKI が語る自身の現在と未来〜 @YoshikiOfficial http://ch.nicovideo.jp/yoshikiofficial/blomaga/ar1626055 …
And this article. Is this posted in here? Probably but I don't remember what's at the beginning and I can't go look.
http://ch.nicovideo.jp/yoshikiofficial/blomaga/ar1626055
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Doesn't sound good... If Toshi is out, I am done
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Decision in that context means they decided to stream the event. I've seen the machine translation of "決定" plenty of times.
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Lol jeez guys calm tf down.. no one's out... the only reason this interview is even happening is because fans freaked the fuck out.
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I mean, if Yoshiki really does this alone and Toshi is sad about it, why would Toshi say it? It could get Toshi in a lot of trouble if he said this to the fans. I mean, think about it. It's like a rose war for a band if someone said loudly that he is feeling bad about the decisions of the band leader....
nb has a point. Would it be wise to start a press war with Yoshiki at this point? Probably not. And it would be extremely out of character for Toshi to do that (hey, he's a showbiz professional who's lived through five decades, survived a cult and rebuilt his public image and career from scratch - would he really fall into that trap?). Why did he chose to drop the hint that he was bummed, though? Maybe because he's a human being and bummed human beings tend to seek validation from people who like them by declaring that they're... well, bummed. It lightens the burden. All things considered, he was very diplomatic and cautious with this words. Just because he let it slip, it doesn't mean he's publicly lashing out at Yoshiki.
Yoshiki is an extremely skilled musician and he deserves all our respect for that. In recent years, I've come to realise that he's not really that good at managing his band's success, though. Sounds like he might be surrounded but PR morons too. I bet his intentions with this single were the best: he wanted to make a great song and to kill two birds with one stone by rallying both X and Hyde fans. It's just that the whole thing was marketed rather disastrously for the rest of the band. I trust that they're adults and that they discussed this beforehand, but heck, was it a strange move! Anyway, the world won't end just because Yoshiki tried and failed at pleasing everyone. Toshi most certainly will not leave the band. Yoshiki has certainly got enough backslash by now to understand that nobody wants another X feat [whoever] thing. Us fans will be bummed for Toshi for a while, but he knows he's loved by millions of us and I don't think he'll take it too personally. If anything, fan reactions will only make him realise how important he is to us and how inconceivable an X minus Toshi would be. And if this marketing move was somebody else's idea, I'm pretty sure they've been fired by now.
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Sorry, I delete it.
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Wow, let's hope it's just the tabloids trying to add fuel to the fire.
I don't know anything about the Japanese press, so I can't judge how reliable those media outlets are, nor if there has been any PR work behind them. Over here, when you want to lash out at somebody through the press, either you approach an established publication offering to give an exclusive interview or you sell them interesting facts for publication. The contracts thing is actually rather innocuous, and it's probably more of a management thing than Toshi's actual decision. The tabloids had previously attacked Toshi with the Lunatic Fest rumor, which he denied on video, so I'm guessing this is another clickbait move. Not the kind of info you sell out when you want to roast someone. (but what do I know :-X )
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Looks like Yoshiki has changed his mind?
Thing has been rebranded from X JAPAN to "Yoshiki featuring Hyde"
https://www.instagram.com/p/Blc2FNRHDyM/?hl=en&taken-by=yoshikiofficial
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Looks like Yoshiki has changed his mind?
Thing has been rebranded from X JAPAN to "Yoshiki featuring Hyde"
https://www.instagram.com/p/Blc2FNRHDyM/?hl=en&taken-by=yoshikiofficial
Oh. Well I guess with that name fans will be okay. Sadly I can't click on the Instagram link (I'm at work and the site is blocked, damnit).
Hopefully everyone will calm down a little.
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Good.
Although Sugizo seems to have gotten the short end of the stick ;)
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I did my best not to concern myself too much about Yoshiki news, but I failed again. Anyway I am glad things worked out fine.
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just right now: Red Swan - Yoshiki Piano Version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOjeCEX87hY
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Glad the name was changed
Did his interview happen yet?
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https://twitter.com/wearex34381152/status/1020268230022008832?s=21
Video of Yoshiki playing Red Swan on piano. Sorry, a Twitter link.
Can hear hints of Art of Life and Rosa in there?
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;D
i'll buy it anyway. X Japan or Yoshiki It doesn't matter :P
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https://twitter.com/wearex34381152/status/1020268230022008832?s=21
Video of Yoshiki playing Red Swan on piano. Sorry, a Twitter link.
Can hear hints of Art of Life and Rosa in there?
The moment I heard it I thought "sounds like Art of Life"