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Yoshiki's mental health

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Offline LEMONedMe

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Reply #90 on: February 26, 2018, 06:00:17 PM
Fair enough and good to hear.  I am November 2nd.  Right in the middle of it all.  You, being born on the 20th are on the cusp of Sagittarius and that probably plays a factor in the way you think and do things, if we go by zodiac signs.

yeah? And then how do you explain Yoshiki? He was born on the same day as her lol I'm sagittarius and I'm nothing like sasasama described either. Nothing went up my ass, I just don't like bullshit and this is a bullshit explanation of why Yoshiki is the way he is and totally off-topic, as it's not related to his mental health at all.

P.S1: Did you just assume my gender?
P.S2: just kidding about P.S1.

As Teemeah mentioned before, we are just having some fun.  I don't 100% believe this shit at all.  Just because I match what books say I am, doesn't mean it's because of the day I was born.  Now if someone wanted to do that, then a true Sagittarius who is not on the cusp won't be the same as one who is.  Capiche?

As far as gender - you talk like a woman.  :P

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Reply #91 on: February 26, 2018, 06:08:09 PM
Ok, stop it, folks. There's no point in getting all worked up because of some astrology shit, ok? We were just having some fun, do you really need to ruin it with this kind of unnecessary lash out at people who have other opinions than you, pt_93? There was no harm in that conversation but suddenly it became bitter with personal attacks. let's stop this and get the thread back at its original topic then.



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Reply #92 on: February 26, 2018, 06:11:45 PM
Ok, stop it, folks. There's no point in getting all worked up because of some astrology shit, ok? We were just having some fun, do you really need to ruin it with this kind of unnecessary lash out at people who have other opinions than you, pt_93? There was no harm in that conversation but suddenly it became bitter with personal attacks. let's stop this and get the thread back at its original topic then.

Amen!  8)

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Reply #93 on: February 26, 2018, 06:12:31 PM
Well, the negative qualities that you described can be changed, instead of saying you just fit the books, since you are self aware you should improve instead of being proud of it lol Your explanations make no sense, maybe in that way you are like Yoshiki :)

Ok, fine.



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Reply #94 on: February 26, 2018, 06:13:32 PM
Well, the negative qualities that you described can be changed, instead of saying you just fit the books, since you are self aware you should improve instead of being proud of it lol Your explanations make no sense, maybe in that way you are like Yoshiki :)

Ok, fine.

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Reply #95 on: February 26, 2018, 06:14:38 PM
Ok ok. Sorry ladies



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Reply #96 on: February 26, 2018, 10:37:40 PM
Yoshiki's metal health is related to what happened to him in his life, genetics, environment...

...and marketing.



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Reply #97 on: February 27, 2018, 10:04:13 AM
 ;D :P

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Reply #98 on: February 27, 2018, 11:28:58 AM
Yoshiki's metal health is related to what happened to him in his life, genetics, environment...

...and marketing.

YOU WIN.

Edit: I just realized I don't even know what my astrological sign is. But a girl here at work pulls out her tarot deck all the time and I always get 'The Fool', which I find quite hilarious.
« Last Edit: February 27, 2018, 11:31:34 AM by matsumoto »

Woah, I can haz admin colour.


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Reply #99 on: March 23, 2018, 03:14:02 AM
I know it's been a while since i've posted.

The jonghyun thing messed me up when it happened. I was a mess. He was failed by multiple systems. He was failed by his doctor and by the law enforcement. His sister called to have a wellness check and they arrived too late.

It seems like if people would've gotten to musicians like jonghyun or hide in a certain amount of time they'd still be here.

When it comes to yoshiki's mental health, it feels wrong to comment on it. When you said that he said it is hard for people to let go of their trauma because they've established themselves in it and identify with it, it really relateable. There was a time in my life where i had to take care of everyone while often almost having to physically fight my step dad because he couldn't put the bottle down. Between having to hide everyones medication in my room to hiding money and car keys, he left us and then got help. When he came back things were great, everyone was doing better but i got worse because I quit high school to help support my mother and pay bills, so when he came back it left this hole in me because i wasn't the care taker any more, i became more depressed as things got better, and even though my life is back at square one (repetitive drinking habits from step father), i am starting to realize that what i had was time to get myself straight and i didn't know how to use it because I never had it.

I've had multiple things happen to me and trust me, I can understand why people like yoshiki are scared to get away from their truama because it becomes so much like a comfort zone that once you leave it you're even more vulnerable.

as for him being a father, it kind of feels wrong to comment on it, what happens just happens. He wouldn't be a bad one in my personal opinion, becoming a parent is scary but once it happens instincts always usually tend to kick in. Yoshiki doesn't need to change per se, just needs to seek help.
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Reply #100 on: March 23, 2018, 03:30:39 PM

The jonghyun thing messed me up when it happened. I was a mess. He was failed by multiple systems. He was failed by his doctor and by the law enforcement. His sister called to have a wellness check and they arrived too late.

It seems like if people would've gotten to musicians like jonghyun or hide in a certain amount of time they'd still be here.


I hope you're better now. I also had a hard time accepting reality and felt as if I had split off into another timeline. Jonghyun's death just feels so wrong especially because it seems that it could have been prevented. As for hide, no one really knows what his intention was but I guess that no mentally stable person regularly drinks themselves to the point of oblivion. Possibly, his passing could have been prevented too. But facts are that they're gone and it doesn't matter how much we wish we could travel back in time to stop shit from happening (I sometimes wish I could ::) ). I try to keep them alive in my heart (...that sounded less cheesy in my mind).

Now back to Yoshiki. He sure is kind of messed up mentally but then again he seems to have some sort of mental strength that keeps him going. He's still around and keeps creating music, interacts with us, encourages people to never give up and wants to be a role model for that. I think we should really appreciate our favorite musicians/artists/etc while they're still walking this planet. :)



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Reply #101 on: March 24, 2018, 01:50:41 AM

The jonghyun thing messed me up when it happened. I was a mess. He was failed by multiple systems. He was failed by his doctor and by the law enforcement. His sister called to have a wellness check and they arrived too late.

It seems like if people would've gotten to musicians like jonghyun or hide in a certain amount of time they'd still be here.


I hope you're better now. I also had a hard time accepting reality and felt as if I had split off into another timeline. Jonghyun's death just feels so wrong especially because it seems that it could have been prevented. As for hide, no one really knows what his intention was but I guess that no mentally stable person regularly drinks themselves to the point of oblivion. Possibly, his passing could have been prevented too. But facts are that they're gone and it doesn't matter how much we wish we could travel back in time to stop shit from happening (I sometimes wish I could ::) ). I try to keep them alive in my heart (...that sounded less cheesy in my mind).

Now back to Yoshiki. He sure is kind of messed up mentally but then again he seems to have some sort of mental strength that keeps him going. He's still around and keeps creating music, interacts with us, encourages people to never give up and wants to be a role model for that. I think we should really appreciate our favorite musicians/artists/etc while they're still walking this planet. :)

I'm a bit better now.  It still doesn't seem real. I got into kpop as an escape from what i mentioned up in my post about having to quit school. It made me feel happy because it felt like everything around me was ruined. I was angry. Shinee and especially Jonghyun's solo work is what took my mind off of things, so when he passed I was devastated.
I know that with hide the ambulance was called but they took forever to get there it seems. if they wouldn't have taken so long they could've possibly saved his life, same with jonghyun. It's sad that people with such beautiful hearts and souls have passed. You're right, after Jonghyun's death I started to appreciate all the musicians I loved a lot more because no one is guaranteed tomorrow, you know?

I think what yoshiki experienced could really mess anyone up, it's sad he had to go through that trauma, but as fans I don't think we have a right to comment on it ya know? Kinda like how everyone has been bringing up him being a parent and all that stuff. To me it's a boundary you don't cross. I think yoshiki is a brilliant musician/artist and who he is as a person is something we'll never know nor do we have a right to.