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Why Taiji was fired by Yoshiki

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Offline Guruxo

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Reply #60 on: November 16, 2017, 02:04:21 PM
I think that Taiji was fired because of drugs also. I remember reading somewhere (not sure where, sorry) that the band made a rule not to do any illegal drugs, and there are a few pictures of Taiji online with marijuana paraphernalia, so perhaps he smoked it? My guess is that perhaps Taiji tried drugs and was fired by Yoshiki as a result. I suppose we'll never know the true reason why Taiji was fired  :(



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Reply #61 on: November 17, 2017, 09:19:09 AM
Fired for smoking a joint? Bro, that's harsh. But yeah, maybe. We don't know if the anti-drugs thing is even for real. If you're in a position like Yoshiki's, I wouldn't expect him to say drugs are awesome and we did them all the time and it was great, try them as well, y'all! Drugs are not as common or readily available in Japan as they are in the West, though. 

Official versions are: 1. Hide and Taiji fought way too much and Yoshiki had to choose between the two (according to Yoshiki's biographer), 2. Taiji got pissed because Yoshiki was making WAAAAY more money than the rest of them (according to Taiji).

My version: the two just couldn't stand each other. Yoshiki then embelished the story by suggesting Taiji had done something terrible to make it more interesting.


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Reply #62 on: November 17, 2017, 03:45:58 PM
Fired for smoking a joint? Bro, that's harsh. But yeah, maybe. We don't know if the anti-drugs thing is even for real. If you're in a position like Yoshiki's, I wouldn't expect him to say drugs are awesome and we did them all the time and it was great, try them as well, y'all! Drugs are not as common or readily available in Japan as they are in the West, though. 

Official versions are: 1. Hide and Taiji fought way too much and Yoshiki had to choose between the two (according to Yoshiki's biographer), 2. Taiji got pissed because Yoshiki was making WAAAAY more money than the rest of them (according to Taiji).

My version: the two just couldn't stand each other. Yoshiki then embelished the story by suggesting Taiji had done something terrible to make it more interesting.





Maybe. I'm not sure about the anti-drugs rule myself, since I can't find the source and firing someone from a band for smoking a joint seems harsh, especially since X were all about rebelling against society back then.



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Reply #63 on: November 17, 2017, 04:49:18 PM
Ok, maybe it was more than one joint.  ;D
I would need to know more about Japan to decide whether drugs were the likely culprit or not, or how society looks upon drug users. A Jap friend once told me drugs in Japan are fairly rare, by no means as widespread as they are in the West. Even less in the 80s. But if anyone was into them back then, it would probably have been the rockstar crowd. 

Taiji's life story really gives me the drug vibe. But maybe that's just me. For some reason, I also get the feeling Hide was into some sort of speed or accid or both. Again, it might be just me. I don't get that feeling from any of the others, though Yoshiki could definitely use some Valium.  :o

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Reply #64 on: November 17, 2017, 10:01:33 PM
Hide was a certified alcoholic. He probably didn't have much interest in other forms of self-destruction, considering he was mostly spending his days drinking for hours (he himself said so in an interview). Taiji's story is more like a drug addict, getting totally run down, ending up on the street, with knocked out teeth and such... Especially that even though all of them drank heavily, hide and Pata were known as THE alcoholics of the bunch.



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Reply #65 on: November 20, 2017, 01:36:28 AM
I've got a reddit page open where people are discussing drug use in Japan.  The posts are archived and from at least 3 years ago.  Marijuana is highly illegal or was at that time.  Ecstasy and methamphetamines are more popular if you can call it that.  If a person got caught with just an empty marijuana bag or bag that had marijuana in it, they would wind up in prison.  But alcohol is most prominent and it sounds like alcohol is ok.  Hmmm.

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Reply #66 on: November 20, 2017, 09:04:04 AM
Yeah, funny enough you see a lot of pictures of Japs slumped over tabled pissed drunk. But you never ever get to see a Jap junkie.

Taiji allegedly had his teeth knocked out during a fight but it had to be one hell of a fight. Meth caused severe tooth decay, I'd probably go with that. His whole life story is consistant with some sort of drug use. Poor dude.

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Reply #67 on: November 20, 2017, 12:12:04 PM
Yes, I agree.  I worked with a lot of people who used meth or around them and many had very bad teeth or teeth were broken off especially in the fronts of their mouths.  It does awful things to teeth and really makes a person look bad, in every way.  Some can look like they aged 30 or more years.  Not good!

Sometimes our tears blinded the love
We lost out dreams along the way
But I never thought you'd trade your soul to the fates
Never thought you'd leave me alone