Kiss v.s Xjapan

hyderix · **on:** January 13, 2007, 03:09:34 PM

actually I can't compare X and Kiss...

Kiss is the background of X musical and visual kei style...
Kiss is the father and X is the son...

but who's better?X or Kiss

Sander · **Reply #1 on:** January 13, 2007, 03:14:44 PM

Can't compare them also becouse I don't think I have heard Kiss many times... Maybe a couple of songs some years ago, didn't impress me that much tbh.

hyderix · **Reply #2 on:** January 13, 2007, 03:17:57 PM

but X visual kei duplicated Kiss hair metal ,right?

darkcat21 · **Reply #3 on:** January 13, 2007, 03:18:25 PM

There's lot of KISS (not Kiss) influence on X Japan, but first KISS is not the background of X musical style, some songs such as Kurenai are really similar to KISS songs (Black Diamond), but not all. And then, first KISS was not Visual Kei, VK is a modification of Visual with gothic lolita and other gothic costumes. X Japan was Visual not Visual Kei, and KISS was influenced by some japanese Kabuki stuff also, but yes they influenced (just a bit) to Visual, but never to Visual kei.

hyderix · **Reply #4 on:** January 13, 2007, 03:26:10 PM

so there is a link between KISS-japanese traditional cult-XJapan

darkcat21 · **Reply #5 on:** January 13, 2007, 03:28:03 PM

Well most of the Visual was influenced by Black Sabbath, but yes there's a relation between KISS and Kabuki.

Hurley · **Reply #6 on:** January 13, 2007, 07:58:53 PM

Actually KISS was not influenced by Kabuki, people just think so. Gene and Paul say they wanted to be heavy-metal Beatles with four Alice Coopers. ;P

But I can't answer to the question of this topic, they are both such a big part of my life that I can't say wich is better.

KISS fan since 1996.

Maverick · **Reply #7 on:** January 24, 2007, 08:35:17 AM

I think this idea of Kabuki was only because of Genes character.
Of course it's noth THAT similar, but the make up of Gene may be a bit influenced.... guess, I have to listen to their biography again, because they're talking about the make up as well.

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VK is a modification of Visual with gothic lolita and other gothic costumes.

@ Visual Kei: eeh... ? Don't know if you can say it especially this way... okay, they're talking about X was the first visual band. Sorry, but I CAN'T imagine that they were influenced from the gothic look :shock:
rather those other 80ies Bands were their influence, I think. In the beginning they look really similar to bands like King Kobra, Mötley Crüe, Twisted Sister, Poison and so on... hair metal bands who were popular due this time (okay, King Kobra is 1 year younger than X xP)

In general to Visual Kei I agree with this opinion when I look at bands like Malice Mizer... but not towards X. (I'd anyways like to call X hair metal/sleaze but visual kei... but that's my opinion... and somehow confusing, because VK is of course only the style and not the music... @.@)

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hyderix · **Reply #8 on:** January 25, 2007, 02:36:47 PM

yeah..yeah...there's a different between hair metal and visual kei..both of them are eccentric..but different in make up style..

Maverick · **Reply #9 on:** January 25, 2007, 04:39:25 PM

I mean the REALLY beginning...
Think of the cover of 'Orgasm'. I don't think there's such a huge difference between X and other hair metal bands. They just changed it more and more later...