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Reply #120 on: April 10, 2008, 02:31:05 PM
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Ow... it was just getting interesting.  :D


second that. this what makes X freaks different. =p

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Reply #121 on: April 10, 2008, 02:35:46 PM
It's only been dicussed that Continental Philosophy is different than "Anglo" perspectives, and thus people will have differing opinions on the issue. All that space used just to explain why people will have different perspectives....

But was it staged....the real question.

Anwser that Nietzsche.

P.s. Fangirls don't like Nietzsche, cause of the moustache.



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Reply #122 on: April 10, 2008, 03:45:19 PM
Eh, the only way we can overcome cultural barriers is by talking through it, not by staying in your own compound and expecting them to do the same. :P

Nietzche won't be able to say anything. Cause he was dead and buried by the time the 'Say Anything' single was released. ;)

That said, the accusation of Yoshiki staging his fall was a result of his often-overdramatic 'falls' during concert. As someone has mentioned, a case of the 'Cry-Wolf syndrome'.

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Reply #123 on: April 10, 2008, 03:46:07 PM
was it staged? then read some facts in the link previously posted.
The real question is.. do you believe in those facts? or from what I gather, do you believe that they are facts?
If so, blah, this whole discussion will just keep being repeated again and again making a big round.  :?

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Reply #124 on: April 10, 2008, 03:55:16 PM
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Eh, the only way we can overcome cultural barriers is by talking through it, not by staying in your own compound and expecting them to do the same. Razz


I wish the people I'm working for knew as much.  :?

But yes, the whole debate will just go over and over. I guess I'm leaving.  8)

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Reply #125 on: April 10, 2008, 05:24:42 PM
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P.s. Fangirls don't like Nietzsche, cause of the moustache.

Man, so true.  But if you ran him in a "who is the most sexy?" poll against Yoshiki, I bet he'd surprise everyone and get second place anyway.

Oh, thank god for threads like this.  I learn so much.  I mean, without this thread, I NEVER would have realized that:
1. I'm an Englishman, and my Mexican friends are Englishmen too! :D
2. Because I'm not Japanese, I'm a coldhearted bastard and generally suck. :(
3. There are people who can BS on the internet even better than me. :(

...Pardon me, I think I need to go listen to my innocent-childlike-noncommercial Ballad Collection and feel sorry for myself because I'm... I'm... not Japanese! :cry:

:lol:

Anyway, yeah, I still think Yoshiki really did collapse (despite X Japan being amusingly commercial at times), but the debate will go on forever I'm sure, and personally that doesn't bother me.  It's only natural considering the drama of what happened, after all.

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Reply #126 on: April 10, 2008, 05:51:05 PM
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...Pardon me, I think I need to go listen to my innocent-childlike-noncommercial Ballad Collection and feel sorry for myself because I'm... I'm... not Japanese! Crying or Very sad


Man...  :D

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Reply #127 on: April 10, 2008, 07:06:29 PM
Guys/girls...  :)  You really got me hooked with the debating, for a minute little else mattered. I apologize if I hurt someone, I do hope not.

I guess I'm one of those few (as well as maybe Anna) who can combine work and play... When I read Heideggerian existentialist philosophy of de-construction (it is my favourite) and contemporary aesthetics, yes, I'm at times very much thinking about Yoshiki and X as art and cultural phenomenon...  :lol: My first thread here was about X Japan as art.

My studies is a passion, and X is a passion, and these both I turn into subjective self-reflection about me, my culture, and other cultures. That's my vocation.

No wonder they don't always pay grad students well here  :lol:

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Reply #128 on: April 10, 2008, 07:25:42 PM
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Russian Yoshiki would have collapsed 'cause the wodka was too much for him.

Vodka!! omg Vodka! normal V.. and Russian would NEVER collapse because of VODKA! XDDDD Tha's only abut 40+%

 :lol:  :lol: But Babak, you can always make me laugh! XD I love you for that, hehe...

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...Pardon me, I think I need to go listen to my innocent-childlike-noncommercial Ballad Collection and feel sorry for myself because I'm... I'm... not Japanese!

-_-;


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Reply #129 on: April 10, 2008, 07:55:08 PM
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Heh, isn't it wodka in Russian? Here in Sweden, vodka is the term for.. well... ordinary vodka. Wodka is ACTUALL RUSSIAN SHIT THAT'S REALLY STRONG (AND SO EFFECTIVE I NEED TO WRITE THIS IN CAPS! ;D

Oh, you meant THAT SHIT? blergh... ok, my mistake! XD

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I love you too. In fact, I love all ya guys, even the ones who like to argue and those who don't. Those who are Japanese and those who aren't. Those who... ok I think you get it by now  :roll:

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Reply #130 on: April 10, 2008, 08:50:34 PM
Man, this thread is way above my IQ level.

*eats a biscuit in a corner*



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Reply #131 on: April 10, 2008, 08:55:00 PM
Right?

I was sitting here like "oh, that word I know...oh, I know that one, too".

I might have understood it in German, but my English is below that level.

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Reply #132 on: April 10, 2008, 09:57:15 PM
I think either way is alright with me (sorry to bring it up again). but if it was a real collapse, then i'm glad he's fine, and it means he was putting his all. but if it was staged, what a show! :D,it was engaging either way, to say the least.



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Reply #133 on: April 11, 2008, 04:57:56 AM
actually.. good job X-J for making this thread seriously different from normal one judging from the title.
It sounds very interesting...
altho.. i will do the same as zwanster.. sharing some biscuits in the corner.. anyone else wanna join us? =p

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Reply #134 on: April 11, 2008, 07:12:55 AM
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actually.. good job X-J for making this thread seriously different from normal one judging from the title.
It sounds very interesting...
altho.. i will do the same as zwanster.. sharing some biscuits in the corner.. anyone else wanna join us? =p


I'll join! I'm getting confused looking at all the post. @_@

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Reply #135 on: April 11, 2008, 11:03:36 AM
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altho.. i will do the same as zwanster.. sharing some biscuits in the corner.. anyone else wanna join us? =p

*brings some coconut biscuits* ^^ let's sit down guys...


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Reply #136 on: April 11, 2008, 05:50:44 PM
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I think either way is alright with me (sorry to bring it up again). but if it was a real collapse, then i'm glad he's fine, and it means he was putting his all. but if it was staged, what a show! :D,it was engaging either way, to say the least.

Well said-- that's how I feel about it too.  Some very X-worthy drama either way.

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Reply #137 on: April 11, 2008, 06:54:29 PM
Munch munch munch.

Seriously, some people are far too intelligent, makes my mind hurt.



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Reply #138 on: April 11, 2008, 08:59:03 PM
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Munch munch munch.

Seriously, some people are far too intelligent, makes my mind hurt.

Yeah, I feel so dumb and stupid... >.>;


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Reply #139 on: April 11, 2008, 09:09:25 PM
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Munch munch munch.

Seriously, some people are far too intelligent, makes my mind hurt.

Yeah, I feel so dumb and stupid... >.>;


All I saw was something about "anglo" somethings, my mind switched off at that point. There were too many words :cry: and English is my first language  :lol:



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Reply #140 on: April 11, 2008, 09:19:10 PM
My mind is off most of the time... XD

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and English is my first language  :lol:

Haaa, this reminds meeee... we gotta do some meeting when I'm in London... ^_^ I hope I'll be able to get there at the end of June... and I'm planning to stay (if I find a job) till the end of September... :3


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Reply #141 on: April 11, 2008, 09:22:30 PM
I love you, guys XDD

Well, I didn't understand everything here as well.
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Reply #142 on: April 11, 2008, 10:51:46 PM
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My mind is off most of the time... XD

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and English is my first language  :lol:

Haaa, this reminds meeee... we gotta do some meeting when I'm in London... ^_^ I hope I'll be able to get there at the end of June... and I'm planning to stay (if I find a job) till the end of September... :3


Hehe yeah definetly! You can outdo me in my own language  :lol:



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Reply #143 on: April 11, 2008, 10:53:43 PM
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You can outdo me in my own language  :lol:

I highly doubt that... ^_~


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Reply #144 on: April 11, 2008, 10:56:41 PM
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You can outdo me in my own language  :lol:

I highly doubt that... ^_~


I don't  :lol:



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Reply #145 on: July 25, 2008, 03:07:19 AM
YAXL-ROSHIKI, made a real valid point though, I found it more hilarious than offensive! "BRING A BOOK" xDDDDDD



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Reply #146 on: July 25, 2008, 05:02:52 PM
YAXL-ROSHIKI, made a real valid point though, I found it more hilarious than offensive! "BRING A BOOK" xDDDDDD

The dude who runs that blog thinks he is the best thing since sliced bread. I hate people who speak with such arrogance and ignorance, especially considering that above all else he has no knowledge of music theory. :p



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Reply #147 on: July 26, 2008, 09:28:44 PM
YAXL-ROSHIKI, made a real valid point though, I found it more hilarious than offensive! "BRING A BOOK" xDDDDDD

The dude who runs that blog thinks he is the best thing since sliced bread. I hate people who speak with such arrogance and ignorance, especially considering that above all else he has no knowledge of music theory. :p

Haha yeah I get what you mean he was just being a dick tbh. I just thought his arrogance was hilarious. I wouldn't be that pissed off. I waited like 4-5 hrs to see Dir en grey once. At FUSE In London they had like 4-5hrs worth of video games to be shown, about 6 support bands and finally we got 30mins of Dir en grey and I missed me coach home X_X.

I think if I was at X, I could relate myself to that moment and realise how grateful I am for seeing the band aswell as not waiting aslong as then!



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Reply #148 on: July 26, 2008, 09:46:42 PM
YAXL-ROSHIKI, made a real valid point though, I found it more hilarious than offensive! "BRING A BOOK" xDDDDDD

The dude who runs that blog thinks he is the best thing since sliced bread. I hate people who speak with such arrogance and ignorance, especially considering that above all else he has no knowledge of music theory. :p

Haha yeah I get what you mean he was just being a dick tbh. I just thought his arrogance was hilarious. I wouldn't be that pissed off. I waited like 4-5 hrs to see Dir en grey once. At FUSE In London they had like 4-5hrs worth of video games to be shown, about 6 support bands and finally we got 30mins of Dir en grey and I missed me coach home X_X.

I think if I was at X, I could relate myself to that moment and realise how grateful I am for seeing the band aswell as not waiting aslong as then!

I didn't mind the concert being late, the X fans outside the dome were great. It was great to socialise and meet all of them, the only grumble I had is that the weather turned cold and rainy just before they let us in :/

I was so jetlagged at the time though, I was nearly falling asleep sat in my seat on the 28th - but when the lights went down and the crowd went wild I had second wind :p



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Reply #149 on: May 03, 2017, 10:06:31 PM
from yoshiki's autobio now we know that they had to finish the first concert because of the tokyo dome issue. The hologram had issues and they were 2 hours late and Tokyo Dome had a strict rule of closing curtain at a certain time. There was no choice but to cut the show in half. And of course you cannot just walk out and say, hey peeps, Tokyo Dome wants us to go home, bye! He faked the fainting, so it was easier on fans' minds. Which also describes why he was perfectly fine on the 2nd and 3rd days. :)