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The band => The Concerts => X JAPAN World Tour => Topic started by: Beauty/Broken on April 29, 2014, 11:07:36 AM
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So, it has just been announced that X Japan are playing Madison Square Garden on 10.11.2014
http://www.yoshiki.net/mobile/
http://www.yoshiki.net/mobile/xjapaninfo.html
Does anyone feel like it's 2008 all over again?
It seems very strange given the small capacity venues they played during their last North American Tour in 2010, and the fact that there were a lot of shows with empty seats. Add to that the fact that X Japan haven't released anything since then, and their American population hasn't really budged since that tour - it just seems ridiculously deluded to book such a huge show.
Maybe Yoshiki thinks fans will travel from all over the world for it - maybe some will. I know I wont! ;D
(http://www.yoshiki.net/mobile/themes/images/banner_XJapanAnnounce_m.png)
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Does anyone feel like it's 2008 all over again?
Exactly.
Just hoping for the album to be released before that haha (and for it not to be the X Japan's Chinese Democracy...)
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Does anyone feel like it's 2008 all over again?
Exactly.
Just hoping for the album to be released before that haha (and for it not to be the X Japan's Chinese Democracy...)
Haha! Keep on dreaming! :D
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Oh man! I want to go, but at the same time I don't want to book anything just to have it get cancelled again. I guess I'll wait until tickets actually go on sale to decide.
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I'm on the same page of feeling weary about the whole thing but I actually think this time around it WILL happen. Yoshiki was extremely unclear as to why there were so many issues back in 2008 and 2009 but with the news of the lawsuit coming to light recently, we can clearly see how they were screwed by management and lots of money was involved. I still think Yoshiki was not as diligent in getting the band back on track but it's likely more stable now in terms of who he is operating with, etc.
I'm tempted to go because this could potentially be one of the last times they ever perform. I think there is probably another aspect to this show that has not been mentioned yet; there's no way they can fill that place....could be another act involved.
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Who knows what they are thinking... Since the Yoshiki Classical tour isn't exactly sold out, I hope they have their eyes on this issue concerning X as well. -_-
Um, well in some recent interview yoshiki suggested that releasing the new album before actually touring again is pretty much needed. (OH REALLY!? >_<) So lat's hope they will actually do that and some real promotion! >_<
Ermmm and i already had my "big vacation" this year, so certainly no NY for me. :P
(...wonder if they will try to do bery as well now....)
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10 minutes later, this went online:
http://www.xplosion-online.com/?p=749
New Best Of Album, hum hummmm?
I don't care about the CDs, but the DVD and Book sound nice!
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*sigh* Yoshiki is the king of "best of" re-releases....
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Well, this was the opposite of what I thought they would be doing now lol
I am defiantly psyched at the prospect of them doing an arena show in the US, but I feel like this is WAY too ambitious for them. They wasted the past 3 years away and should be putting out a completely new record with a tour like 2010 with way more dates. Oh well, maybe I can swing going to this IF they actually play it
EDIT- Seems like they (Yoshiki) gave up on a new album as I just saw they are releasing another "Best Of." Oh well, it was wishful thinking we were ever getting an actual album after 5 years of bullshit. I am looking forward to the 2010 tour DVD it says comes with one of the editions! Hope it is released in the US. He should have really included Jade on it to represent the "new" lineup. I'll still buy it day one, of course lol
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In regard to the new 'best of' album: Meh. I'm not buying it. I wont spend any more of my money on X Japan re-releases or special edition releases.
I've gone from being an X Japan fan who actively waits, to a passive, 'sleeper fan', who comes to the surface when something actually finally happens. :D
I mean heck, I didn't mean to sound disrespectful in how I made the initial post about this gig in New York - but there's no way I'm gonna go to it. I went to Japan for X in 2008, and when they came to England, I went to see them again. I'll also be seeing Yoshiki in London next month - so I'm never going to give up on them, I'll always love them, but life's too short to be spent actively waiting for them!
Not to mention, after all of the false starts and cancellations we've seen so far, I'd be foolish to make such a huge investment in a trip to New York. I'll never forget the scandal that was Bercy, and I'll never fully accept that Yoshiki was in no way to blame for it. Management issues aside, he still has to accept some culpability for either not keeping a closer eye on proceedings or giving too much power to that management team to begin with.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me for believing you.
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Finally the "new" album...
Why aren't I.V. or Jade on it? I thought they'd finally be on a CD. What about BTBF?
And a live version of Without You? Couldn't we have a studio version of that song after all this time?
Still curious about what they mean by "remastered versions"...
And will it be the English version of Rusty Nail or the original one? ('cause it seems to prepare the MSG gig, and during the USA tour, it was in English so...)
Still quite curious but also pretty confused about this long-awaited release and this apparently too pretentious venue for them right now...
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What a cluster fuck ;D
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What a disappointing compilation album. I could maybe understand if this was just for NA and Europe, but this is Japan only if I understand correctly. I mean, the DVD trailer is nice, but shouldn't we already have the full DVD set by now? The book sounds like it'll be cool though.
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What a cluster fuck ;D
Do you know that is a clusterfuck?
(http://i.imgur.com/JvBhD4O.png)
THIS IS A CLUSTERFUCK.
An awful pic made with Paint using Calibri and Arial saying nothing but a date and TWO FUCKING DEAD MEMBERS.
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Even if it was kind of nice to have hide around in 2008, it really starting to get old and misplaced imo.
Plus, I don't get why is Taiji name here? I mean he wasn't referred to as a member in 2008 so now that he's dead, he's a member again?
So I agree with Joker, enough with the dead members and/or ex-members. Some tribute once in a while is really nice but they have to move on on this.
When I see a Metallica Tour poster I don't expect to see Cliff Burton's name on it...
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The whole paying tribute to hide thing was great when this all first started happening 7 YEARS AGO. It is time to move on. Also, playing with Taiji again in 2010 was perfect closure for his chapter in the band. What he did was tragic, but they have payed their respects more than enough. They both kick ass, but they do not have to have such active roles in the band anymore, they are dead for crying out loud.
That ad truly is awful, I did not notice the member's names until just now. I hope the official announcement goes better and hopefully (as likely as a new GNR album at this point) they release a new album or a few NEW songs by Fall. That "Best Of" sucks, ESPECIALLY if it is Japan only. Last night I was under the impression it was a global release. Seriously, no new songs, no Jade/IV/BTBF, wtf is a trailer at least release a legit DVD with it, and a relatively questionable track list. Knowing X Japan, it will be way overpriced as well.
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I guess now that Taiji is dead, Yoshiki can include his name in stuff without him disagreeing to shamelessly try and curry favour with older X fans who never really accepted Heath.
It's worth remembering, that whilst a lot of people think that 'X Japan' died with hide - many feel that 'X' died when Taiji was fired.
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I guess now that Taiji is dead, Yoshiki can include his name in stuff without him disagreeing to shamelessly try and curry favour with older X fans who never really accepted Heath.
It's worth remembering, that whilst a lot of people think that 'X Japan' died with hide - many feel that 'X' died when Taiji was fired.
And this is even more stupid than the whole hide stuff. Putting Taiji name on an announcement won't make him come back from his grave to play. Taiji wasn't a member anymore, YOSHIKI FIRED HIM.
If he likes "tributes" to dead members, why don't put Terry on the list also? He also died, and IMHO, he has really important role on X history. And, as the own Yoshiki biography says, he was fired due to a disagreement with Taiji.
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Its really a shame the reunion was handled so horribly. We got some phenomenal shows, a few good tunes, and older fans got some closure (with things ending on a high, and Taiji etc). I am so happy it happened, as I got to see them on their US tour. It was a rare and unforgettable opportunity.
Despite those good things, Yoshiki really fucked up with his countless false promises, cancellations, disregard for the fans and band, and focus on other failed or useless prospects (Well, if you are happy with his focus on Violet UK, headphones, the Golden Globes, and more then good for you lol)
Ah well!
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Its really a shame the reunion was handled so horribly. We got some phenomenal shows, a few good tunes, and older fans got some closure (with things ending on a high, and Taiji etc). I am so happy it happened, as I got to see them on their US tour. It was a rare and unforgettable opportunity.
Despite those good things, Yoshiki really fucked up with his countless false promises, cancellations, disregard for the fans and band, and focus on other failed or useless prospects (Well, if you are happy with his focus on Violet UK, headphones, the Golden Globes, and more then good for you lol)
Ah well!
Violet UK isn't even a thing yet either.
The problem is that Yoshiki seems more interested in the superficial trappings of fame than the artistic merit of musical creation. It seems that somewhere down the line, he started to mistake commercial endeavors such as Hello Kitty tie-ins, credit cards with his picture on and branded headphones, for actual work or artistic productivity.
Even his actual music releases over the past few years have all either been tied to a wider, commercial product such as films or award ceremonies. It seems that he's singularly interested in boosting his profile for the purpose of bulking out his same old tired press release that his agent continues to distribute at every possible opportunity than expanding on his career as an artist.
Even this supposed MSG gig just stinks as being a States-side profile-raiser or personal ego push, that once done, he can slap on his CV.
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Its really a shame the reunion was handled so horribly. We got some phenomenal shows, a few good tunes, and older fans got some closure (with things ending on a high, and Taiji etc). I am so happy it happened, as I got to see them on their US tour. It was a rare and unforgettable opportunity.
Despite those good things, Yoshiki really fucked up with his countless false promises, cancellations, disregard for the fans and band, and focus on other failed or useless prospects (Well, if you are happy with his focus on Violet UK, headphones, the Golden Globes, and more then good for you lol)
Ah well!
Violet UK isn't even a thing yet either.
The problem is that Yoshiki seems more interested in the superficial trappings of fame than the artistic merit of musical creation. It seems that somewhere down the line, he started to mistake commercial endeavors such as Hello Kitty tie-ins, credit cards with his picture on and branded headphones, for actual work or artistic productivity.
Even his actual music releases over the past few years have all either been tied to a wider, commercial product such as films or award ceremonies. It seems that he's singularly interested in boosting his profile for the purpose of bulking out his same old tired press release that his agent continues to distribute at every possible opportunity than expanding on his career as an artist.
Even this supposed MSG gig just stinks as being a States-side profile-raiser or personal ego push, that once done, he can slap on his CV.
I couldn't have said it better myself. I think you've nailed the situation with Yoshiki. Some may argue but I think he hit his cap with Art of Life and by no means is that a jab at him, it's one of the most impressive songs ever written and performed. Dahlia is lovely but the decline was clear and then obviously there was no proper, genuine recovery since the original disbandment. Nearly everything since "reunion" has felt somewhat superficial, especially with how he tries to interact with the Western audiences. The Yoshikitty, Nurse, thing is tiresome and I personally think the classical tour is over hyped.
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Okay guys… some thoughts and reactions…
1) Fine, it's a Best Of album… without new songs.
Which probably means that those will get on a DIFFERENT album - which you may as well refer to as "the new album" that had been talked about since years ago. As they have all the old best-of-stuff on this "the world" album, i guess the other one will include 100% new songs. And that's good news, right?
2) It's not overpriced? o_O It's in fact so surprisingly cheap that I bought the limited edition without much doubting after I saw the price LOL
3) HA! You see the problem about the dead members? The fangirls are crying if they don't mention hide and Taiji all the time - and if they do, people are complaining, TOO! -_-
(Well my personal opinion is that these tributes are rather creepy and I wouldn't do them in such ways, but well, that's what *I* think about it.)
4) The usual complaints about yoshiki making false promises and only trying to promote himself and whatever…
I think people aren't thinking too far when they say absolutely everything is Yoshiki's fault alone. I don't have enough insights so judge fairly (and if I had, I probably would shut up about it…) but while I'm unhappy about some things, too, and also wonder how the hell he is deciding on who he's hiring. I am certainly not a fan of pointing out all the mistakes and focusing only on the bad things. Just ignore the stuff you don't care about and spend your time with something else in the meantime. :P <3
(Oh and btw… think about AKB48 or KISS…. THOSE do a lot of pointless mercy stuff. XD)
….So a bunch of stuff is going wrong - as always lol - and people will go on complaining anyway, but I am tired of these discussions that don't lead anywhere. I will happily wait for whatever there is to come and will try to ignore the pretty empty venue at the Classical Concert and enjoy the show…. *headdesk*
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Okay guys… some thoughts and reactions…
1) Fine, it's a Best Of album… without new songs.
Which probably means that those will get on a DIFFERENT album - which you may as well refer to as "the new album" that had been talked about since years ago. As they have all the old best-of-stuff on this "the world" album, i guess the other one will include 100% new songs. And that's good news, right?
2) It's not overpriced? o_O It's in fact so surprisingly cheap that I bought the limited edition without much doubting after I saw the price LOL
3) HA! You see the problem about the dead members? The fangirls are crying if they don't mention hide and Taiji all the time - and if they do, people are complaining, TOO! -_-
(Well my personal opinion is that these tributes are rather creepy and I wouldn't do them in such ways, but well, that's what *I* think about it.)
4) The usual complaints about yoshiki making false promises and only trying to promote himself and whatever…
I think people aren't thinking too far when they say absolutely everything is Yoshiki's fault alone. I don't have enough insights so judge fairly (and if I had, I probably would shut up about it…) but while I'm unhappy about some things, too, and also wonder how the hell he is deciding on who he's hiring. I am certainly not a fan of pointing out all the mistakes and focusing only on the bad things. Just ignore the stuff you don't care about and spend your time with something else in the meantime. :P <3
(Oh and btw… think about AKB48 or KISS…. THOSE do a lot of pointless mercy stuff. XD)
….So a bunch of stuff is going wrong - as always lol - and people will go on complaining anyway, but I am tired of these discussions that don't lead anywhere. I will happily wait for whatever there is to come and will try to ignore the pretty empty venue at the Classical Concert and enjoy the show…. *headdesk*
I'm honestly not sure what you expect. There's not really anything promising or positive to discuss that hasn't already been covered a thousand times.
Most X Japan fans nowadays are jaded, but at the end of the day, they're fans for life, and when something does happen, you know they'll be there cheering - no matter how many reservations they have with the band's lack of activities or respect for their fans.
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Uh, well I just needed to rant a bit, as people always seem to make things worse than they are. :P
And maybe I should be happy about people complaining as this leads to more activity here. ;D
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The problem is that Yoshiki seems more interested in the superficial trappings of fame than the artistic merit of musical creation. It seems that somewhere down the line, he started to mistake commercial endeavors such as Hello Kitty tie-ins, credit cards with his picture on and branded headphones, for actual work or artistic productivity.
SOMEONE SAID IT!! :D But hey, that's Hollywood, baby. Who gives a fuck about creating new music when you can earn shitloads of cash by feeding X Japan-themed Hello Kitty's to rabid fangirls who'll buy anything as long as it has a big red X logo on it.
And yes, I'm getting a BIG flashback from 2008. :D But, now I'm a bit older and wiser and I know I shouldn't get my hopes up too high. From a musician's point of view, it would be obvious that the album needs to be released before the tour, but this could be another reason for the tour to be delayed, of course! Can you imagine the news lines already? "X JAPAN TOUR POSTPONED BECAUSE ALBUM ISN'T FINISHED YET" or some shit.
Whatever, I'll just sit back and wait, with a big bowl of popcorn in my lap, lol!! To the "newer" X fans who haven't been through the 2008 shit, I can only say this: Don't get too excited. XD
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I hope there is some info soon, I got this job I've been wanting and the 11th is a weekend so I may be able to do this
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I like how this show is supposedly in 3 months and there is zero information. Yoshiki has just lost his mind, there is no way this is happening unless its in the parking lot of MSG...
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I like how this show is supposedly in 3 months and there is zero information. Yoshiki has just lost his mind, there is no way this is happening unless its in the parking lot of MSG...
Typical ;) Don't worry, this happens all the time. My prediction: the show will either be completely forgotten about, or postponed.
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Or not happen at all...like the first time he said they'd be playing MSG.
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X Japan - Madison Square Garden - Oct 11, 2014 (announcement)
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=qI-zQehlQaI&app=desktop[/youtube]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=qI-zQehlQaI&app=desktop
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The YouTube clip looks like it was done by a twelve year old... But at least it's an announcement!!!
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Have fun everyone that goes, I am going to sit this one out. Just happy I've seen them once and I don't think I can swing a flight to NY.
Anyways, its a shame this is so half- assed, but what isn't in X- Japan? No ticket pricing or any info really and the show is in 2 months. It is also WAY too ambitious and this will surely be cancelled because of low ticket sales. I do hope it goes well but don't get your hopes up.
Friday should be interesting
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The video is indeed horrible. So was the "poster" announcement a few months back. In fact, marketing for X-japan has been laughable since they got back together. Quite perplexing when you think about the kind of money Yoshiki alone owns and how much more money this show could bring in if truly advertised.
I highly doubt it will happen and it is kind of sad that it is a general consensus, seeing how things have gone in the past. I first heard about X back in the early 90's when mp3s first appeared online. By 1998 I would have had enough money to finally see them live in Japan but it was too late by then. When I heard about a reunion in 2008 I was floored. When the world tour actually took place I couldn't believe it. Through some pretty ironic circumstances, I missed the show they did in a nearby city (Toronto) because I was getting married that day, in Mexico! Almost 20 years waiting to realize my teenage dream haha. No matter how much I'm not too impressed by the very limited newer material that came out (3 songs in 6 years...), no matter how stupid Yoshiki's ego trip is, you bet I'll be there front row if that show takes place.
What is even more perplexing is that Yoshiki and X are extremely talented, individually and has a band. Yes, even without Taiji, without hide, can those guy absolutely rock. For some unkown reasons we are stuck with Yoshiki acting all drama queen, vampire, nurse, hello kitty, golden globes theme ... it is so infuriating! Stardom does that, I get it but most of the time it does that to crappy talentless pop stars that never had any real musical talent to begin with.
I dream of a fan picked setlist that would feature a solid mix of old and new but alas, I'll still take the scrapping of a shitty rehashed setlist over nothing..
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Ha yeah, the advertising and general marketing stuff had been pretty half-hearted these years. But really, that MSG video is the worst I've seen so far. O_O Nevermind that the "Concert Poster" that Yoshiki posted is a joke, too. Apparently they are not quite sure who they they want to target for that concert and that shows quite obviously... I mean, not knowing the band already, my impression wouldn't be very good seeing that lame video...
Really, I always wonder who is responsible for all and if they don't realize what they are doing wrong!? o___O
Maybe it would be a good idea to check out what fans have to say, too, and not only fangirls who just go "OMG YOSHIKI I LOVE YOU" no matter what you do. -_____-
Hum, about X not doing much, I am under the impression that this is really a problem because of their managements. Even Yoshiki said that "it's a pain in the ass" to find time to work together, while he seems to care about X the most...? Doing whateerelsehewantsto while the rest is busy only sounds fair to me. (Though I'd also prefer if that wouldn't include spamming Twitter in the style of his fangirls. x_x)
(Especially while working on Xplosion for YEARS now, and spending endless hours basically doing their work, seeing them messing up things for themselves all the time is damn frustrating!!!! Nevermind that I still love the band and their music, so we won't give up because of their weird marketing...)
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The fact that Comic Con New York is sponsoring the show makes me think it'll probably happen. I also read that X will be appearing at the convention too. Now I've just got to scrounge up the money to go, because I have my doubts about another US tour happening.
Also, I know they won't, but it would make my year if they pulled out a track from Vanishing Vision. That album hasn't gotten any support since the Dahlia tour as far as I remember.
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The video is indeed horrible. So was the "poster" announcement a few months back. In fact, marketing for X-japan has been laughable since they got back together. Quite perplexing when you think about the kind of money Yoshiki alone owns and how much more money this show could bring in if truly advertised.
I highly doubt it will happen and it is kind of sad that it is a general consensus, seeing how things have gone in the past. I first heard about X back in the early 90's when mp3s first appeared online. By 1998 I would have had enough money to finally see them live in Japan but it was too late by then. When I heard about a reunion in 2008 I was floored. When the world tour actually took place I couldn't believe it. Through some pretty ironic circumstances, I missed the show they did in a nearby city (Toronto) because I was getting married that day, in Mexico! Almost 20 years waiting to realize my teenage dream haha. No matter how much I'm not too impressed by the very limited newer material that came out (3 songs in 6 years...), no matter how stupid Yoshiki's ego trip is, you bet I'll be there front row if that show takes place.
What is even more perplexing is that Yoshiki and X are extremely talented, individually and has a band. Yes, even without Taiji, without hide, can those guy absolutely rock. For some unkown reasons we are stuck with Yoshiki acting all drama queen, vampire, nurse, hello kitty, golden globes theme ... it is so infuriating! Stardom does that, I get it but most of the time it does that to crappy talentless pop stars that never had any real musical talent to begin with.
I dream of a fan picked setlist that would feature a solid mix of old and new but alas, I'll still take the scrapping of a shitty rehashed setlist over nothing..
I sincerely hope this show goes as planned and I really hope you get to see them. I know the feeling of not being able to see your favorite artist, and then finally getting the opportunity. Its amazing and a relief.
Its is on The Garden's website now,
http://www.thegarden.com/events/2014/october/xjapan.html
Tickets are apparently $25-$65
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Honestly, I really think this show will happen. It's not surprising that the tickets are that cheap; I'm glad they had that much sense because they're not exactly doing what they should have to build enough hype leading to this kind of a show. Yoshiki is so loaded that he'll take the hit in terms of how much it's going to cost to play MSG, even if they don't break even which it's hard to think they will. The good thing about X Japan, as we all know, is how often do they put on a bad show? They nearly kill themselves every time. The frustrating part about all this is how uncertain their activity will be AFTER this show happens. It's likely it could be their last one in North America...which would be very annoying for the fans because this would end up being just a thing on Yoshiki's bucket list to say he's played MSG. I'm worried that is the case.
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Agreed. MSG is his dream.
Too much to think about a single release to support the MSG show and tour? The album is out of the question, I read somewhere that the album is now pushed back to early 2015...
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Dude, there is no album lol
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Album. Right. HAHAHAHA.
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Apparently they signed a new contract... Well, when did the old one end? 2013? >__<
(Actually, what happend if you are under contract to release music but...don't....?)
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The video is indeed horrible. So was the "poster" announcement a few months back. In fact, marketing for X-japan has been laughable since they got back together. Quite perplexing when you think about the kind of money Yoshiki alone owns and how much more money this show could bring in if truly advertised.
I highly doubt it will happen and it is kind of sad that it is a general consensus, seeing how things have gone in the past. I first heard about X back in the early 90's when mp3s first appeared online. By 1998 I would have had enough money to finally see them live in Japan but it was too late by then. When I heard about a reunion in 2008 I was floored. When the world tour actually took place I couldn't believe it. Through some pretty ironic circumstances, I missed the show they did in a nearby city (Toronto) because I was getting married that day, in Mexico! Almost 20 years waiting to realize my teenage dream haha. No matter how much I'm not too impressed by the very limited newer material that came out (3 songs in 6 years...), no matter how stupid Yoshiki's ego trip is, you bet I'll be there front row if that show takes place.
What is even more perplexing is that Yoshiki and X are extremely talented, individually and has a band. Yes, even without Taiji, without hide, can those guy absolutely rock. For some unkown reasons we are stuck with Yoshiki acting all drama queen, vampire, nurse, hello kitty, golden globes theme ... it is so infuriating! Stardom does that, I get it but most of the time it does that to crappy talentless pop stars that never had any real musical talent to begin with.
I dream of a fan picked setlist that would feature a solid mix of old and new but alas, I'll still take the scrapping of a shitty rehashed setlist over nothing..
Hope you got good tickets today. Seems that the most expensive are GA
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Got section 118 row 21.. :( Site crashed many times at work anyways I'm not too happy with the tickets but I do have some and hope it is still going to be awesome.
Anyone else going ?
The video is indeed horrible. So was the "poster" announcement a few months back. In fact, marketing for X-japan has been laughable since they got back together. Quite perplexing when you think about the kind of money Yoshiki alone owns and how much more money this show could bring in if truly advertised.
I highly doubt it will happen and it is kind of sad that it is a general consensus, seeing how things have gone in the past. I first heard about X back in the early 90's when mp3s first appeared online. By 1998 I would have had enough money to finally see them live in Japan but it was too late by then. When I heard about a reunion in 2008 I was floored. When the world tour actually took place I couldn't believe it. Through some pretty ironic circumstances, I missed the show they did in a nearby city (Toronto) because I was getting married that day, in Mexico! Almost 20 years waiting to realize my teenage dream haha. No matter how much I'm not too impressed by the very limited newer material that came out (3 songs in 6 years...), no matter how stupid Yoshiki's ego trip is, you bet I'll be there front row if that show takes place.
What is even more perplexing is that Yoshiki and X are extremely talented, individually and has a band. Yes, even without Taiji, without hide, can those guy absolutely rock. For some unkown reasons we are stuck with Yoshiki acting all drama queen, vampire, nurse, hello kitty, golden globes theme ... it is so infuriating! Stardom does that, I get it but most of the time it does that to crappy talentless pop stars that never had any real musical talent to begin with.
I dream of a fan picked setlist that would feature a solid mix of old and new but alas, I'll still take the scrapping of a shitty rehashed setlist over nothing..
Hope you got good tickets today. Seems that the most expensive are GA
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Got section 118 row 21.. :( Site crashed many times at work anyways I'm not too happy with the tickets but I do have some and hope it is still going to be awesome.
Anyone else going ?
The video is indeed horrible. So was the "poster" announcement a few months back. In fact, marketing for X-japan has been laughable since they got back together. Quite perplexing when you think about the kind of money Yoshiki alone owns and how much more money this show could bring in if truly advertised.
I highly doubt it will happen and it is kind of sad that it is a general consensus, seeing how things have gone in the past. I first heard about X back in the early 90's when mp3s first appeared online. By 1998 I would have had enough money to finally see them live in Japan but it was too late by then. When I heard about a reunion in 2008 I was floored. When the world tour actually took place I couldn't believe it. Through some pretty ironic circumstances, I missed the show they did in a nearby city (Toronto) because I was getting married that day, in Mexico! Almost 20 years waiting to realize my teenage dream haha. No matter how much I'm not too impressed by the very limited newer material that came out (3 songs in 6 years...), no matter how stupid Yoshiki's ego trip is, you bet I'll be there front row if that show takes place.
What is even more perplexing is that Yoshiki and X are extremely talented, individually and has a band. Yes, even without Taiji, without hide, can those guy absolutely rock. For some unkown reasons we are stuck with Yoshiki acting all drama queen, vampire, nurse, hello kitty, golden globes theme ... it is so infuriating! Stardom does that, I get it but most of the time it does that to crappy talentless pop stars that never had any real musical talent to begin with.
I dream of a fan picked setlist that would feature a solid mix of old and new but alas, I'll still take the scrapping of a shitty rehashed setlist over nothing..
Hope you got good tickets today. Seems that the most expensive are GA
Hey, at least you will be there! And those aren't so bad. I do have to see it is so cool you get to see an arena X-Japan show. I am so happy I saw them in a club, but seeing their whole stage show would be unreal. Hopefully they have the splitscreen!
Looks like someone is sensible too, the upper bowl will be completely closed off for this one, but having the floor and lower bowl is still a lot to sell.
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Trying to get tickets for me and my friend...surprised to see that there is no floor seating left...
Got section 118 row 21.. :( Site crashed many times at work anyways I'm not too happy with the tickets but I do have some and hope it is still going to be awesome.
Anyone else going ?
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There is no way the floor sold out. I would call The Garden and buy tickets that way
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Apparently they signed a new contract... Well, when did the old one end? 2013? >__<
(Actually, what happend if you are under contract to release music but...don't....?)
Oooo, where did you hear that? Surely if you have a signed contract to release a certain amount of music a year / over the lifetime of the contract, we would have to pay penalties if you didn't fulfill that agreement? Then again, I guess it also depends on whether or not Yoshik got an advance out of the record label...
P.S. Super, SUPER jealous of all of you that are able to go to the show! Back in 2009 (?) when they originally announced they would play Madison Square Garden, I was working full time and in a position to go, so bought flights and accomodation around the planned date. And yea... they cancelled and I was super bummed, but still enjoyed seeing one of the most famous cities in America! After studying full time to get a degree the last 4 years, I have only just started working full time again and although I have / would have enough money to go to this show, (New Zealand is quite a way away :() I don't think my SO would appreciate it! XD
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Shit, did this really sell out or is
A. Ticketmaster fucked up for the event
or
B. Scalpers decimated this
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Shit, did this really sell out or is
A. Ticketmaster fucked up for the event
or
B. Scalpers decimated this
Maybe both because I saw that certain tickets were still available on some parts.
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So sad.. I can't go.. :(
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My friend and I got row 8 of section 109. Direct side-view of them but really close! We're excited! :D
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PSA: If you cannot get tickets through ticketmaster, CALL Madison Square Garden before you give up or buy through a shitty scalper (i.e. stubhub, ticketsnow, etc). I've had to resort to scalpers before but only do that if you are sure you cannot buy through the direct source first. Same goes through secondary markets like craigslist.
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Now I'm in this dilemma....I wanted to go originally because the ticket price OK, and I don't live too too too far(like the other side of the earth). Therefore I wanted to get tickets in a really good section which will make my effort worth while...
Now that there is just no ticket left in a good section via direct method, even though I can find them through resale site like studhub, but they sell them for over $200. Considering the plane ticket/hotel, etc… over my budget, and the risk of them cancelling last minute again….
Still really want to see them though…why the ticket scalpers had to ruin this for me…
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300 listings on stubhub. Fuckin' sickening
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cool
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Hm, just curious, but does anyone know who's opening for them? IS anyone opening for them? I felt kinda bad for "Vampires Everywhere!" at the NYC show in 2010, because the crowd wasn't too welcoming for them.
Just curious if we've heard who, if anyone, is opening that night.
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Hm, just curious, but does anyone know who's opening for them? IS anyone opening for them? I felt kinda bad for "Vampires Everywhere!" at the NYC show in 2010, because the crowd wasn't too welcoming for them.
Just curious if we've heard who, if anyone, is opening that night.
I believe in a recent interview, Yoshiki said there will be no opening act simply because of the nature of the venue and stage set up they're bringing from Japan. It'd just to be too difficult to swap equipment efficiently. Also, I remember Vampires Everywhere from the Toronto show as well...oh god, they were not the greatest act but I did feel for them...the WORST reaction I've ever seen from a crowd. Let's be honest though, when it's X Japan and EVERYONE in the venue is still almost in disbelief they are going to be performing, just about anyone could walk on stage and you wouldn't flinch. I'm sure in time the guys of the band realized the nature of X Japan and the fans.
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Hm, just curious, but does anyone know who's opening for them? IS anyone opening for them? I felt kinda bad for "Vampires Everywhere!" at the NYC show in 2010, because the crowd wasn't too welcoming for them.
Just curious if we've heard who, if anyone, is opening that night.
I believe in a recent interview, Yoshiki said there will be no opening act simply because of the nature of the venue and stage set up they're bringing from Japan. It'd just to be too difficult to swap equipment efficiently. Also, I remember Vampires Everywhere from the Toronto show as well...oh god, they were not the greatest act but I did feel for them...the WORST reaction I've ever seen from a crowd. Let's be honest though, when it's X Japan and EVERYONE in the venue is still almost in disbelief they are going to be performing, just about anyone could walk on stage and you wouldn't flinch. I'm sure in time the guys of the band realized the nature of X Japan and the fans.
Huh, interesting. Thanks for the info, Feudal! The stage must be insane, because I've seen a ton of shows at the Garden, and the only one that didn't have an opening act was the Trans-Siberian Orchestra. Even Muse always has a pretty elaborate stage and they always had an opening act there. Very curious.
As for Vampires Everywhere!, I agree. It had to be a bummer to play such a packed show and get zero love whatsoever. I'm pretty sure I even remember some people booing. I mean, calm down, it's not like they're playing INSTEAD of X-Japan. I get that they were the wrong bang for an X-Japan crowd but you don't have to be a tool about it, you know?
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TOMMY WOOD, F.O.A.D.!!!!!!!!!!
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Mods? This guy is annoying.
On topic: New video by Yoshiki, is there another new song at 1:20? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe_JklDmCU4
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Mods? This guy is annoying.
On topic: New video by Yoshiki, is there another new song at 1:20? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe_JklDmCU4
It does sound like a new song! (They've sure made a few new tracks since the new album was "99% complete" :P) Seriously can't wait for the 3 concerts; Toshi's voice is sounding spot on at the moment!
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i hope another new song, but the teaser doesnt sound really promising for me
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Yoshiki's latest tweet:
"YES! WE'LL PLAY SOME NEW SONGS!! at Madison Square Garden #XjapanMSG COMING SOON!!
#Jade #EndlessRain #Hero #BeneathTheSkin"
I believe that 'Beneath The Skin' is actually a song that Yoshiki and Sugizo wrote for S.K.I.N that they performed at their one and only show in 2007, so it's at least 7 years old.
--Edit--
Yeap, here's the song that's playing at 1:20 in video being performed by S.K.I.N
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whgc31ZmlzU[/youtube]
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Wow... S.K.I.N., totally forgot about that band. Did they release an album or something at the time?
So by new songs, did he mean re-use some of the SKIN ones? Doesn't sound very X Japanish to me...
We'll see
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Wow... S.K.I.N., totally forgot about that band. Did they release an album or something at the time?
So by new songs, did he mean re-use some of the SKIN ones? Doesn't sound very X Japanish to me...
We'll see
Nope, no album - just one show and nothing since.
The arpeggiated electric guitar sounds very Luna Sea'ish, so it's got Sugizo's signature all over it. At least it's a step away from the song writing being entirely Yoshiki dominated.
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Anyone knows if the concert is sold out or not? Hopefully they don't have a big block of empty seats……
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Anyone knows if the concert is sold out or not? Hopefully they don't have a big block of empty seats……
Tickets are still on sale and they are advertising it like crazy, so unsurprisingly, it's not sold out. They never stood a realistic chance of doing that.
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They had some sections closed off in Paris, so I guess they'll do that in MSG as well.
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Yeah and they closed off like 2/3 at Yoshiki's Berlin concert... I guess they'll do tHAT in MSG as well. ...... *innocent face* ^____^
Well, I invite them to prove me wrong. :P
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The show is going to be broadcast in theaters in Japan! Through Sugizo:
X JAPAN Madison Square Garden Concert Will Be at Theaters for Live-Viewing !
X JAPAN MSG公演ライヴビューイング決定!
In addition to Yokohama Arena Concert, which was sold out within a second, Madison Square Garden Concert will be at theaters for Live-Viewing !
SOUL'S MATE Reservation
9/25(Thu) 12:00 - 9/28(Sun) 23:59
Please check details on S.M.News on SOUL'S MATE website.
X JAPAN WORLD TOUR 2014 at Madison Square Garden LIVE VIEWING
Date: October 12(Sun) 9AM (JST)
Venue: Theaters in Japan
*Open time varies depending on the venue.
Price:4,200 yen (All Seats Reserved/tax in)
Madison Square Garden Concert
October 11th (Sat) 8PM (Local time)
Madison Square Garden, New York, NY
Ticket : http://bit.ly/xjapanMSGny
#XjapanMSG
LIVE VIEWING
http://liveviewing.jp/contents/xjapan/
X JAPAN Official Website
http://www.xjapanmusic.com
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I hope they do the theater screening in the US for those who can't go (like me).
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I wish they would simply do some online live stream... :/
I'd even pay for it! D:
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Can we/do we know how many tickets they sold for this show?
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Almost 6 and less than a 200 people waiting inside the msg. Probably more for the floor entrance.
I'll admit I'm pretty damn excited. A couple of really awesome hide cosplayers.
Meanwhile the lady at the goodies booth is sooooo rude Holy crap haha
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start with jade again. any audio streaming link?
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1. jade
2. Rusty Nail
3. Silent jEalousy
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according to this backstage guy twitter, https://twitter.com/DerikBoik its gonna be the same setlist
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No surprises on the setlist... Anyone know how big/empty the crowd is?
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from some picture i saw on twitter, probably at least 60% ticket sold. and people said that toshi voice sounds a lot better. thats good
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Unless I'm mistaken, endless rain was at least and addition.
I also found Toshi's voice to be excellent tonight.
Yoshiki's usual sappiness turned out to be truly touching..
All in all, they played a solid 3 hours and besides a few mistakes did very well. I had a great time... Happily impressed.
20 years waiting so then again, as I mentioned elsewhere, they could have farted on stage for 2 hours and I would have been happy but I sincerely believe it was one of their better recent performance
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bfnfzl3-foc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJPLGBDBr54
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fvtdp_8LjiI#!
toshi voice sure in good condition
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Those clips are nice :)
Thosi's voice sure is good.
He doesn't seem like he let the crowd do half his job like in Yokohama, that's nice (even though when he didn't' sing the "I miss you... I can't live without you" part in Silent Jealousy, it bugged me...). Hope he did sing the whole songs, especially on Rusty Nail (since the reunion in 2008, I'm always pissed during this song 'cause he always let the crowd sing too much).
Do you know if they plane on releasing a DVD or something? Cause it's their first time in MGS, it's special etc. Even if with X JAPAN, we know it can take a veeeeeery long time ^^"
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I gotta say, its pretty cool to see them pull this off. Its surreal seeing that pic with the floor and lower bowl pretty crowded. Props to them!
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In one of the Q&A videos of their panel at NY Comic Con, Yoshiki jokingly asked Toshi if he thinks they can finish off the album by mid-2015 and he also posted on facebook. "Wait for the info for the new #album and #WorldTour!!! We love you!! #WeAreX!!!!!"
So I think *fingers crossed* it's safe to say we could have another tour/more shows by next summer with some luck.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJCF4gbL-uU
Did Toshi just say...
Did he just say Beneath The Skin is gonna be on the new album or do I need to clean my ears?
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Not that the new album ever will happen, but why would it be weird for Beneath the Skin to be on the record?
I fully expect that, Hero, I.V., Born to be Free, Without You, and Jade to be on it.
Throw another 3-4 unheard tunes on there and you have an actual studio album
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I don't find it weird, I'm just thrown off a little bit haha. It does sound like a natural progression from where they left off with Dahila in my opinion.
I'm really hoping 'Without You' comes out in studio form eventually >.>
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As much as I'm not a huge fan of their newer stuff (Jade did grow on me though), they do sound better live than they ever will studio version. I profoundly hated Born to be free and thought it was actually not bad at the MSG (gasp!).
So we've got Without you, I.V., Jade, Born to be free, Hero, Beneath the skin, Scarlet love song would be a stretch...
Still, quite a few new songs and I somewhat agree that they are an almost natural, albeit sad, evolution from te Dahlia era. They've re-recorded english lyrics for Tears, Kurenai and Rusty Nail as far as I know? Those will most likely end up on the new album too. That leaves very little room for uknown songs.
Now... if only they could play Weekend, Dahlia, Orgasm, Blueblood, Sadistic Desire... some of those live, it'd be great. A Vanishing Vision medley is still something I dream of haha...
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after listen couple of times beneath the skin, its not that bad, feel a bit like scars .. the song feel like so no yoshiki style, its good to have that song , thanks to sugizo
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Alright, here are a few pics I took from the MSG.. nothing fancy, I was pretty far (118, row 21) and wanted to enjoy the show!
http://bit.ly/1D7A9su
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Well I found your pics really nice, not a professional quality of course but really neat! :)
Thank you!
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Its too bad they didn't bring the 5 panel screen!
And its really telling how this thread is only 4 pages. Its their biggest show in years yet there was a lot more activity for the 2010 tour. Can't say I blame people for leaving though.
Glad you had a blast, astralmind
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Mods? This guy is annoying.
On topic: New video by Yoshiki, is there another new song at 1:20? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe_JklDmCU4
hona, donai sei yuune?!?! ushiwakamaru namettotara dotsuitaruzo, oi!!
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And its really telling how this thread is only 4 pages. Its their biggest show in years yet there was a lot more activity for the 2010 tour. Can't say I blame people for leaving though.
Well X were dead for a few years and forums in general are dying... no surprise, huh? :/
Discussions are quite lively on facebook and twitter, though...
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If you are a real X Japan fan, you should get used to their pace by now. LOL
I have watched a couple of videos on youtube. Toshi's voice was definitely much better that the concert in Yokohama.
Hope that the 'new' album will be finished soon!
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I hope that this gets released on DVD and Blu-Ray soon. (And that they don't abandon releasing the footage from the last world tour.)
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Man, I would love a DVD from the 2010 North American Tour. They'd be mad not to release MSG in some form, though. I heard there is going to be a documentary. That could be awesome!
Keep in mind none of these things may actually happen
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So! Yoshiki has posted on Twitter that they will release the MSG show on DVD! Any bets on when it will come out? It would be awesome to have it before the end of this year but that isn't at all realistic. I'm thinking at the very earliest, mid to late next year? :P
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So! Yoshiki has posted on Twitter that they will release the MSG show on DVD! Any bets on when it will come out? It would be awesome to have it before the end of this year but that isn't at all realistic. I'm thinking at the very earliest, mid to late next yearS? :P
Now that's more like it xD
Seriously, I hope we'll get this soon.
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Oh yeah, DVD.... Well, I bet at SOME point it will be released, just right after the reunion shows and world tour :P
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EL1S2sEibE its not related to this concert, but maybe yoshiki still remember some of this old song
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnUkBCIdA0s
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Come on Toshi you have to sing the chorus on Rusty Nail...
It's a shame that he always let the crowd "sing" too much.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkEboK1BTEA he did sing forever love very good